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Think about it, how cool would it be if GNR released, let's say, The General or Soul Monster to radio stations and available for sale on iTunes to promote the upcoming tour?

Since it's unclear as to whether the upcoming shows, particularly the upcoming states tour, are still in support of Chinese Democracy, I think a new single to draw attention to GNR and move them forward musically would do nothing but good for both the band and the fans.  : ok:

Thoughts?

To answer your question...

Yes

I don't think you'll find a GN'R fan who wouldn't wanna hear more music from the band.

So I think every member here would say "yes".


Would be awesome if something like that happened. If it doesn't, we still have the shows to look forward to and that's definitely not too shabby! :)



/jarmo

For a while I was on the fence about whether I thought GNR should tour the states,  or take time to get the next album out.  But now that it looks like the states tour is actually happening, I'm very, very psyched for it and can't wait to have their awesome stage show finally making it's way home.  That alone is a lot to be excited about!

That said, in 2006 we saw that it was difficult for Axl to do what needed to be done to get new music out while they were on the road.  Unless they've been working on it and mastering it under the radar during the off-time in 2011, I admit we currently have no reason to believe it will happen this year.

But like jarmo said, any fan should be excited about the prospect of hearing new music from GNR, and I'm always open to surprises.  :)

Agreed.  Although, I was thinking what would be also cool as something of a happy medium would be if they road-tested some new or previously unheard/unreleased material.  That would be awesome.

Ali

As long as the band does what they believe in the way they think is right.

That's all that matters.


If they can't put out something new, there's a reason for that.

If they don't play anything that's still unreleased, there's a reason for that.



No matter what they choose to do, some "fans" will never be happy. As we all know.

The band played several unreleased tracks during the shows/tours in 2001, 2002, 2006 and 2007. Now, some of those so called fans are holding that against the band. "We already saw this show in 2002. They play the same songs". Silly shit like that.

But as we all are aware, GN'R isn't out to please these silly keyboard warriors. They're not the majority.



/jarmo

Agreed and there can be a downside to playing new music, it can cool down a hot vibe when the audience don't know new tracks.... You only have to have stood near festival goer's who only remember the AFD and UYI tracks and begin their whining about playing something they know. In their "OWN" show the band will get respect and the fans will listen with interest, but surrounded by a sizable crowd of "casual on-lookers" the mood can go down faster than a hooker on piece-work....

Yeh would be awesome obviously but i try not to think about it or any new songs being played at Rio cos i will only be gutted if not

Thoughts??...........Hell Yeah  :beer:

In the meantime we will get new music very very soon from Mr. Tommy Stinson :P

In regard to new music, it's a strange situation, and one that I'm not really sure how to feel about in regard to my expectations.  

On one hand, it's been known for years that three albums were recorded for an inteneded 'trilogy' during the Chinese Democracy sessions from 1998-2007.  The intent to release another album from the CD Era was echoed by Axl during his chats after CD was released, as well as Ron confirming more recently that there's another two albums more or less ready to go from that era.  

When you think about it, a new album can come as soon as it's mastered, and Axl & the label come to terms. That is, if Axl still wants to put them out as they are.   For all we know, the plan could be to have the current lineup re-record all the songs to reflect their abilities and chemistry as a band...Although that may be somewhat far-fetched, as far as rerecording all the songs goes.

I've always felt that the band's best option was to have the next album go hand in hand with the U.S. tour, but then, I'm sure the powers that be know more than I do in regard to what's actually going to take place.  

The U.S. tour is certainly a blessing, and something I'll be looking forward to regardless of whether new music, performed live or officially released, has anything to do with it.

I don't think there will be new music played, just for the fact that they are touring under Chinese Democracy.  I think the reason we heard new music during the 2006 Tour was because of the leaks... though I could be wrong, and I hope I am.

I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any mention of Chinese Democracy in the promo for the upcoming tour.

I think you are in the main wrong about the timing of leaked songs verses hearing them live, IIRC most (if not all) of what was leaked had been played live.... I may be wrong, but I can't recall a song that was leaked as a studio version before it was heard at some show or other. My caveat is that the squiwel (whatever he called himself) leaks were just before the album dropped and don't count in the context under debate.

I've noticed that too.  Although the point of the tour could be to simply bring the liveshow to the states, which they haven't had a chance to do yet with the post-CD lineup.

If they are not, in fact, putting out/playing new music soon, I guess you can call this the "Unfinished Business Tour".  :hihi:

Catcher, There Was A Time, I.R.S. and Better I think..


Although the former two was either not played or just played a couple times live before the album release.

Correct, Hence the 'Downloading Motherfuckers' comment before Better  : ok:

how about a live ep. from last year with a extra new tune in it or something like that

I salute you, both of you, but was this before 2006?

Anything they decide to release in the future I will certainly check out.  :peace:

I'm on thin ice here, but if my memory serves me correct it was early 2006.

I.R.S. maybe a little earlier.

I think pretty much anything fresh on the radio would be awesome and help a great deal.  Maybe a new song, but I think re-releasing a Chinese song that they plan on playing at every show would work as well.  Anything to help promote the tour and get people in the states thinking about GNR again would be good.

sorry for English.

 In Best Buy's site is relaunching all of GNR catalog format for SHM day 15/11/2011, Tuesday

 The last time this happened was the release of Chinese right?

 I'll be happy when a new album is released, but they decide the best time, I'm happy because of the tour to take place in the U.S., went to a show in Sao Paulo one of the best in my life!, I'm happy for the band and because I see Axl again

Yup, IRS was first, Catcher was mentioned in the Trunk Interview w/ Mike Piazza, before any shows had been played, (plus they didn't play it 06/07)

And I remember every one was harsh on Ron for his TWAT solo (compared to BH's) @ hammerstein because he was in the band for like 5 min before he played it

IRS came in a shitty quality record from Trunk's radio show in 2005. By January 2006, the first high-quality tunes leaked: IRS, Better and TWAT. Not long after, came Catcher with Brian May along with early recordings of IRS and TWAT.

A new single on the radio would certainly create some new excitement for the band. I think this is most important in the US, although the ticket sales haven't actually started yet so it's hard to say how it's gonna go.

For all we know, all shows will sell out without any new studio material on the airwaves. Anyway, some promotion is always needed and new songs would be the coolest for us not attending these shows.  :hihi:

Not really what most people would expect now, but a live DVD/BR would also create some new excitement.

The fact that they will bring Dale Rage with em again to South America brings hope for the future.

Maybe a little short on time to get it out ahead of the US tour (if it indeed starts in Oct), but maybe during or in time for christmas..  :peace:

Now would be a great time to release "The General" as a single. It would rouse a lot of interest in gnr which would undoubtedly help ticket sales.

Would also keep the hard cores happy, and if this song would be added to the live sets, it wouldn't be a massive deviation from the existing show. I was lucky enough to see guns last year so I know how well the current show works!

This would be totally amazing.

Question is, I suppose, could this be arranged through the record company?

Couldn't agree more.  I mean, how long can you keep "the sequel to Estranged" underwraps?  :drool:

I'm kind of on the fence on this one.

I agree with Jarmo in a lot of ways (the band should do what it feels is best, and we always have the dates to look forward to). On the other hand, the U.S. is a difficult market for rock at the best of times - and these are not the best of times.

I'm hoping they either stick to major markets, or get a single out, just so that we can see further dates added down the line. Too many festivals and tours have scrapped dates or whole tours in the past two summers in North America. I'm fucking lucky to be north of the border since rock still sells here and we got Guns early in 2010. Although if they dip by Detroit or Buffalo I might catch them there.

In any case I'm guessing we'll know more soon enough.

Single and video from Chinese Democracy! How about finally gettin "Better"? And "This I Love" and a live dvd for Cristhmas! :drool:

I would LOVE it if they released a live Blu-Ray!

Not sure why they should release 'The General' as a single? To my knowledge no one has heard it (unless you're talking about the few seconds of checkmate or whatever that was). Might be completely unsuitable for radio play, more of a 'Coma' than a 'November Rain.

I'm a big fan of albums, particularly when they flow well, but GNR (esp new gnr) has such a diverse range of songs I think they could regularly release singles or small EPs to Itunes, and done right it could be a really cool thing for touring. As wrong as it might have been at the time there was something cool going to the concerts having heard one of the leaks.

But I agree with whoever said about playing unreleased material kind of dampens a concert if no one knows the song.

Anyway, I'm sure the vast majority will have a great time whatever they play!

Don't think it's "Checkmate"


When asked on twitter what was played as an intro at the concerts, GN'R responded:

"there are several.. "the General" is probably most played before CD"



To my knowledge, this is the most played one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1TnoH-HCRo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1TnoH-HCRo)

Better question would be, Will GNR break out a new song or two on the tour??? I think that is more plausible.

Remember The Blues,Maddy and CD as live staples way before CD came out?? How bout a couple new songs like that?

With a US tour, I'd be happy with a new single sent to radio and a video.. how bout "Sorry" I haven't met ANYONE that doesn't like that song.

Live tracks and live concert DVDs/Bluray are great for people who like us, who are already fans.

But they don't usually "promote" a tour. In advance of the tour.

Usually you release those kinds of things after the tour.....




/jarmo

Makes sense, jarmo. Still, would be really cool.

Here's my dream scenario:

In September, after several weeks of rumors, GNR finally confirms the long-awaited, full-on, U.S. tour.  Also in the press release, they reveal the name of a single that's to be released to radio stations in October, for the forthcoming followup to Chinese Democracy.

The first single is debuted live at Rock in Rio 4.  The day after Rio, the band issues a press release detailing the show, and announcing the new album for a late-November release date.

The band finishes the SA tour, heads to the states, and tears it up on the heals of the new album.

How badass would that be?? 

That said, if the band is just touring the states to bring the live show home, I'll be more than happy with that.  : ok:

Is there anyone who doesn't think that this would be a good idea?

Unfortunately, it seems very unlikely that this will actually happen.

To really promote the tour, they should do a show right here in Montreal..;)

Montreal show was a killer

of course i would love new music, who wouldnt?  However, I dont know if I'm alone on this, but I still feel like "Chinese Democracy" has a lot of miles left on it.  I would love to see a video for "This I Love", "Better" or really any "CD" song.  I think the band should still focus on promoting "CD", since the release was botched here in the states, a lot of music fans haven't been exposed to that record yet. 

I'm not even talking about increasing album sales here,  since the record is 3 years old,  I think the band should give "CD" away for free on their website.  I'm not sure what the legalities are with the Best Buy exclusive, or with Guns record label, but I think that would be an awesome way to expose the record to a huge audience and really create a buzz.  I have bought over 30 copies of "CD"(thanks to the best buy deal)  and gave away over half of them to people I know who didn't want to give the album a chance.   For the most part the feedback has been positive and they are interested in what GNR is going to do next.  Now take what I did with about 10 people, and multiply it by a few hundred million, it might sound crazy, but who knows, it could be great for the band.