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According to Nikki Sixx:

ROCK MUSIC MENU: Sixx talks about tour drama

Published: Friday, July 15, 2011

 It was the result of a fan poll the band took, Sixx said, that led to the decision to tour with Poison. Well, kind of. Poison was actually the third choice.

?The fans chose Guns ?N Roses first, Def Leppard second and Poison third and we?re like, ?Really?? he said. ?We talked to Guns ?N Roses, talked to Def Leppard, talked to Poison who was available and the other two weren?t. It just worked out.?

It was a surprise when the tour with Poison was announced, first at a solo show by Bret Michaels, which was then disavowed by M?tley?s management, and then again by Michaels on an interview show.

?Everything was fine, until Bret went on Piers Morgan and announced the tour when he knew he was supposed to do it with M?tley Cr?e,? Sixx said. ?It was a M?tley Cr?e tour with the New York Dolls and Poison supporting, and that really pissed off my band. We didn?t want the tour, because of the reasons not personally, but because of keeping things segregated and then when he went and took it into his own hands that it was like his idea ? yeah.?

?He was the one on the phone that told me he wanted to do it because his band needs credibility and M?tley Cr?e is a credible band ? it pissed us off, because we were sucker-punched.?

http://delcotimes.com/articles/2011/07/15/entertainment/doc4e1fb7f83cbec513362526.txt?viewmode=default

damn it I would have bust a nut if that actually happened.

In Chile MC Play Whit Buckcherry... Show:

NOTHING NEW, UGLY PRODUCTION, UGLY SOUND,,, Bad, Bad, Bad...

No, Thanks By Invitation Nikk.

 : ok:

Wow, that would be absolutely, unbelievably, fucking awful. I'd rather eat my feet whilst they were still attached to my body.

Is that physically possible?

So, Motley would've opened for GN'R?  ;D

That must've been the idea.... Anything else would've been silly.




/jarmo

I wonder if GNR refused b/c of the whole incident back in the late 80s when Izzy was punched by Vince and Axl threatened Vince.

I'm pretty flexible.

Wonder if Motley contacted GN'R to hear if they could open for them...



Axl: Hahahaha............... could you repeat that?

Sixx: Eh... open for us?

Axl: Oh, you were serious? No. *Click*

AXL: WTF ?? First MY AS, Second MC

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 :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi:

I think that might have been a problem because Motley Crue live in a fantasy world where they don't think they should open for anyone.  Also Vince Neil continues to take shots at Axl regarding their feud in 89 as recently as a few months ago.  I don't know what happened behind the scenes but I really don't see how GNR would be remotely interested in that tour.  I think we would have just a good a chance as seeing Axl and Dave Grohl team up for a GNR/Foo Fighter tour as we do seeing a GNR/Motley double bill.  Also aside from the fact that they both came from L.A and rose to popularity in the 1980's they have nothing in common musically or artistically as far as I'm concerned.

Better off this way I would rather see GNR go out and do their own thing and maybe bring a few young up and comers out on the road with them. 

Idem ALL Post

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In theory it would never work but would i wanna see that? Hell yeah.

although im still holding out for my GNR,Bon jovi,Red Hot Chili Pepper triple bill.

Yeah for unavailable read never in a million years  ;)He doesn`t seem to get it does he, he thinks motley are better than poison and doesn`t realise Guns are in another universe compared to them  :hihi:

ignoring omg they bands are not that far away, musicly or publicly and MC don't like the poison-association too much judging from earlier interviews.


Do it as the Metallica tour...which went to hell too ;D

GnR actually used to open for Motley, back in the day...before illusions-albums afaik.

co-headliner w/ Motley would have been great....I'm not the biggest fan but do like Shout at the Devil, Dr. Feelgood and St. Of LA....Motley came 1st n' were huge w/ Dr. Feelgood durings GN'Rs peek..And w/ original members they may have an arguement about being top bill. But GN'R are my all time fav. so I don't care who they play with!!

Incorrect AdZ...you are pretty AND flexible.   :hihi:

I'm still laughing at the thought of GNR opening for Motley Crue.   :rofl:

well it isn" option...why?If you want to be co headliner with some band you have to share profit on same pieces or popularity of the bands have to equal or same...In GNR & MC tour,you have one extremelly popular band Guns n Roses and one opening band MC...It isn"t posible co headlining tour between GNR and MC...GNR can do that with Metallica or bon Jovi,but also I don"t see interest for it because GNR can sellout arenas and stadiums across the globe

It's a Same Old... Same Old Situuuuaaaattiiioonn !!!

 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

I can't stop laughing at the idea of Motley Crue touring with GN'R.

a) They'd be the opener
b) I wouldn't show up til I knew they were off stage
c) GN'R should never, ever, EVER tour with those clowns.

I know DJ could possibly be a uniting force here, having worked with them, and in Sixx:AM, but I have no desire to see Motley Crue. I hated them in the 80s. I hate them now. GN'R are timeless. MC is not.

all possible. but when looking at numbers in these days Axl would have to open for Metallica, a co-headlining "could" work, but its the same with MC/GN'R where MC better be the openers.

Those are 2 massive live productions, I don't see it fit one stage though !

Saw Motley last week. Wow, they were really awesome.  Plus it's crazy how it is still the original 4 guys. Are they GNR? No, but they fucking rock and put on a hell of a show!

What about the Crue fans that went to and enjoyed it John Corabi was in the band? Or was that not Motley Crue?

Wasn't the original, this is. They, Cr?e, still have a pretty big following.

It would have been one of those equal headline tours like Metallica and Guns back in the 90's. 

GN'R toured with Crue during Girls, Girls, Girls. 

M?tley figures such as Nikki continue to perpetuate the bad blood between themselves and GN?R by questioning aspects of the band?s operation and integrity. For that reason I would be reluctant to see GN?R facilitate M?tley?s agenda.

Whilst a co-headlining tour would have its advantages it?s ultimately unnecessary given the existence of ... "a comprehensive touring agreement in which Guns 'N Roses would perform at various...venues.". :)

huh? there is absolutely nothing about "questioning aspects of GN'R operation and integrity" in this:


right now its just another silent period in Guns camp again.

Shows coming up in October. :)




/jarmo

I know everyone is supposed to hate Motley as a Guns fan due to the Vince vs Izzy/Axl thing 22 years ago but u can't deny Motley are a great fucking band.

I mean hell, Axl hired one of them as his lead guitarist and he is awesome.

yeah, but since the Axl info (on twitter?) with smth. like "to take a break for a week or 3 or so" it was pretty much silent and still seems to be until october - which i'm looking forward to.

TV broadcast please!!!!!

Yes... yes, you can. The Axl/Vince thing has nothing to do with it. They're just awful.

Never got into that band.

Never got into any of the other "L.A. bands".

I got into GN'R because they were different.






Who? Mick Mars was never in GN'R.



Silent in what way?

Rock In Rio was announced in March. And then we'd have news of other shows since then.

The band hasn't been out touring yet this year, but it's obviously not as silent as some might suggest.


Axl tweeted like two weeks ago...




/jarmo

Oh Jarmo, don't be silly!!!  D is obviously talking about Kevin Bacon!!!

Kevin Bacon was in "Wild Things" with Denise Richards who was in "Blonde and Blonder" with Pamela Anderson who was married to Tommy Lee who's in "Motley Crue" with Nikki "Sixx degrees of Kevin Bacon"!!!!

DJ wrote every song pretty much on Saints Of Los Angeles and is no secret if Mick's health gets to the point he can't tour, DJ would be the Motley guitarist. not sure now but pre GNR for sure.

So what part of what you just said makes him a member of said band? Nothing.

Hello anybody home? Think McFly!  ;)

Stop trolling.  :P

You saw how unpopular the band is and had to make some kind of statement to try to stir shit up because you happen to like MC.





/jarmo

no but when a member of GNR is in a band with Nikki and composes Motley albums its almost dissing DJ by hating on Motley so much. If u say Saints Of Los Angeles sucks.. u are in a roundabout way saying DJ sucks.

also how is it trolling when i genuinely LOVE Motley Crue. I own every album and think they are great.

so if i love Motley and disagree.... I can't post?

Come on!

You can't be fucking serious......


I refuse to think anybody believes what you just said.

There's no logic to your way of thinking (or not thinking in this case).


So if you don't like a song co-written by Desmond Child (for example, "Livin' La Vida Loca"), you're saying Bon Jovi sucks?  :P

I bet you wouldn't. I bet you realize Desmond doesn't write the same kind of song for Ricky and Jon.




Now why would Dj's work with Motley or Nikki have anything to do with what he does with GN'R?


You're just upset because you think people should like Motley Crue because of Dj.

Makes sense now why you like some of the bands you're into. Your logic tells you that you have to like them.... Because you like GN'R.  :hihi:



/jarmo

I see ur point on the Desmond Child thing and if people don't like Motley's music that is fine but if there are some who don't like them just because the Axl/Vince spat.. i think that is kind of ridiculous.

Motley isn't GNR but they are way above the "LA" bands u talk about though.

Yup.  They suck. They simply... suck.

that was the main point in this interview, Jarmo: "Poison who was available and the other two weren?t[...]"

MS and Poison touring right now, Axl camp turned that down for whatever reasons.
so silent in the way of not touring (when he stated this "take a break for a week or 3" stuff it turned out to be many months, i expected that though). and besides the Rio announcement and some small talking/twitter there isnt much activity for the fans until october: no release (date) of anything single, video etc., band members doing their own projects now + small other info we've got that they didnt even write "together in a room", no group pic etc.

satd was awesome yeah :peace:


Motley sells well globally actually, they arent' really that much less "80's" than gnr

Vince Neil: "what? the fans want us to tour with GN'R? is that Izzy f*cker still in the band? no? alright, i'm up for it, lets ask them to tour!"  ;D


(joking)

I don't think it would have been that bad, imagine axl sing starry eyes :P


Motley's diferent too, in their way. Lotsa band "followed" Motley Crue to put it that way.

That they tour with Posion is lame as hell imo, wtf :confused:

Vince apparantly teached Axl some vocal-lessons and how to maintain ur voice after a night spent partying.



They would end Motley Crue and go solo I am pretty sure. :yes:

Unless...:greedy:

if guns n roses tour with MC ......  it would be sahame for GNR !!!!


GUNS N ROSES IS A BIGGER BAND !!!!!!!!!!!!!  ENOUGH SAID !!!

GnR is not that glammy style grom the 80`s


poison and mc -----  love it !!!!

Yeah it will be shame for Axl rose-the best frontman ever...There are only two really big and really good bands from 80es ...

Guns n Roses and Bon Jovi

Poison...ok Poison is not even music.

it's just some entertaining passe-temps for people who grow up in a farm, very far than any civilised cities.

I excuse people of L.A, because at that time, everyone were high. they even voted for Reagan, remember.

Motley Crue has a different stature, due to the recognition they had back in the days, but come on, they're still clowns
who made music with farts and red noses.

one of the worst music scene EVER

I even pointed out that GN'R isn't touring right now. :)


There's plenty of activity for fans who are making plans to attend those October shows.



The band took a break after touring for a year.

I don't see the problem.




/jarmo

What world does Nikki Sixx live in? Poison has been around 20 years, and probably draws crowds not that far from what Motley draws-Nikki acts like they are still starting out playing in clubs-Poison if anything has never shied from the label of a "glam band"-people go to see Poison and Motley to hear greatest hits, to see Rock of Love Bret Michaels, and so on,

Quick Question:

How much different would it be touring with Motley as opposed to Van Halen?


not a VH fan for the record

Well, VH are one of the all-time great rock bands. How many times has Slash's name been used in the same sentence as Eddie VH? Exactly.

You won't find Mick Mars' name next to Slash ever, however.

Motley Crue are derivative trash you couldn't even pay my little cousins to listen to.

Though I'm not a VH fan, VH is a very influential band that is actually respected by people.


You don't hear many contemporary bands, who are taken seriously, counting Motley Crue as an influence.

I would not have liked this to happen at all, GN'R are too big for Motley. I would rather see Guns use a surprise as an opener, maybe someone who is from a totally different genre, like Mix Master Mike.

Crue are just a boring rock/glam band who think they are better than they are, just my view. And Guns N' Roses are the opposite, a monster, who deserve all of the praise and triumph put their way.  8)

What a sad little group of posters you all are.  I see this turned into nothing but a let's hate on the Crue thread. Self righteousness runs abounds here I guess because you listen to what you like and everything else sucks.

That happened in like 2006 (at least in Boston).  Or was that your point? 

Edit: That was 2002!  OMG TIME FLIES!

I have to agree with this...   Especially if you are talking about Van Halen and not Van Hagar... 

Funny. Coming from you. :)

Attack those who don't share your taste in music.




/jarmo

Everything in music is derivative of something else.. Motley came out when rock music was kind of dead so they are more forefathers of the LA scene and not some unauthentic trend chaser.

The difference is that Van Halen are a very well respected rock band, Motley Crue are not.  Van Halen has the greatest guitar player who has ever walked the earth(sorry Jimi, just my opinion).  Motley Crue is considered a joke by many people, and their behavior really does fuel a lot of that.   I like Motley Crue, but I don't really respect them as a band too much anymore, especially since they are very vocal about only tolerating each other for the money. 

EVH is not the greatest guitar player. sorry

maybe the best tapper but put his solos against Slash's and their is no contest.

Would you let people think what they want?


Thanks!

Didnt say EVH was my favorite guitar player, I said he was the best guitar player big difference, I'm talking technical proficiency.  This is off topic we can discuss this elsewhere.  But back on topic, i was referencing EVH's playing ability as to why Van Halen is a respected band in the music industry and Motley Crue not so much.  Factor in David Lee Roth's frontman ability, I can't believe you would ever put Van Halen in the same category as Crue when it comes to being a respectable touring partner for GNR, the greatest American rock band of all-time.  Van Halen has iconic classic american rock n roll songs and draws huge crowds despite not putting out a record since 1998.

But all that aside, and all the silly feuds between members of GNR and Crue over the years aside, Motley Crue sells nostalgia, that is it.  That is what their tours are based on, they are hardly pushing the envelope.  Axl and GNR on the other hand are doing a whole other kind of thing, as evidenced by "Chinese Democracy", and their recent touring.  I can't think of one reason why GNR would want anything to do with a Crue Tour.

Nahhh, BBFT Is The Man !!


 :beer:

LOL Hot For Teacher is a respected awesome song? Please

 Listen to the first few Crue albums.. They are out fucking standing.

Tommy Lee is one of the 3 or 4 greatest rock drummers of all time.. so that gives them a bit of cred.. Mick Mars also is one of the more underrated guitarists also.

I absolutely think Van Halen are shit outside a few songs.   U can spit out "technical" stuff all u want... The dudes solos are a bunch of show off/wanking off. DLR is a terrible singer, surely no better than Vince who i WAY prefer over DLR and Hagar.   *disclosure* i am a blues based till i die guitar fan.... I am not and have never been a fanof the whole technical shredding/tapping stuff. Don't like it.. sounds like a bunch of angry bees that generally has nothing to do with the song and is just a section of the song used to show off how fast i can move my fingers...  Solos should be songs inside of songs and should take the song to a higher place emotionally.. I don't feel that with Van Halen. sorry

I think people here don't want cause Motley Crue are so equally big to GunsnRoses.

Remember the US "comeback-tour" :P

I don't know who GnR ideally should tour with, Enslaved is a pretty cool band thats "big/promising", if you can take the voice.


So is the exentric Buckethead, but...

Their first 2 albums (and new tattoo) and theyr live-performances are really good, at least in rock-standard ;)

Buckethead is not considered as a joke, but one of the best guitarists ever. period.

What does Eddie Van Halen, Slash, or Buckethead have to do with this thread?

How many guitar players Slash inspired? Maybe Synyster Gates (seriously?) and... who?
How many guitar players Eddie Van Halen inspired? Some of the very best, including Satch, Vai, Malmsteen, Randy, Bucket, Bumble, Shawn, Govan... I could go on. If they weren't influenced directly by him, their influences were...

You shouldn't mention Slash and Eddie on the same sentence. Eddie was on another league technically, creatively and influentially - just like Hendrix changed how the guitarists played guitar, Eddie did... Then Vai, Lane, Satch, Morse... and then we have the new guys changing how people approach the guitar, like Bumble, Bucket, Mattias, Govan, etc. I know they aren't a big commercial appeal, but they are really respected by (respected) musicians.

Motley Crue will NEVER, EVER be as respected as Van Halen. They are actually important to rock n' roll and Motley just followed the Glam Metal/Hair Metal party.

I'm glad GNR denied them... I wouldn't be comfortable watching a poser pop/glam band co-headlining a tour with GNR.

what does influencing people have to do with anything??

November Rain and Sweet Child solos murder anything Eddie ever did.

Can he play faster than Slash? Sure.. but who cares?
Throw me a legendary Van Halen riff,and I guarantee Slash has one better.  Aint Talkin bout Love is amazing riff but compared to SCOM?? please
Adam Lambert can sing higher than Axl.. does that make him better than Axl? Of course not.

dude just cause you don't LIKE Van Halen doesn't mean you can discredit everything the guy did.  The only reason i brought up what a great guitar player he is was to show why Van Halen is a more respected band than Motley Crue.  "Jump", "Panama", "Aint Talkin Bout Love""Right now", are ingrained in American society. You seem to immediately discredit a guy if he plays fast as being emotionless, you can do both, a lot of players do.  Van Halen was about the music, Motley Crue was about the party, image, strippers, heroin etc.. Make no mistake Van Halen was a huge party band as well, but there is no denying there is way more musical substance in a Van Halen record than a Crue album.

Also I couldn't let this one slide, you'll defend Scott Weilands front man abilities to the death but question David Lee Roth's?  DLR practically invented the term front man.

What a joke,  Motley Crue only have appeal to the Rocklahoma and Addler's Appetite crowd.....to me it was always real simple.  Vince Neil will never be as cool as Axl, and before the crue lovers whine, I had Shout At The Devil in 1984, and it was great back then.  

Here are the facts though:  Axl rocks Versace and parties with models and F1 types.  Vince spread hepatitis and kills people.  Pretty simple ehh?

If you guys wanna talk about other bands, please feel free to do so in the Bad Obsession section. :)

This is one is pretty done by now. There was no tour.

Some of you like Motley, some don't. But we all like GN'R.





/jarmo

IDEM... I Guest To Fans Of MC !!! Wait...

 :beer:

PS, I'm a rabid fan of Axl, Buckethead and Motley. :beer:


In the same manner that Motley Crue is considered one of the best rockbands ever, period. Taste...

Motley Crue inspired an entire decade...

SATD and Mick Mars have inspired lots of Black Metal bands and other genres/styles...so, the reason for no summertour with Motley must dictate in something entirely diferent. I think it's due to the magnitude of both bands, my 2 cents. :peace: