Here Today... Gone To Hell!

From an interview with Steven Adler in the June issue of Rukus Magazine.  Here's just some of the interview:

Ruskus Magazine: Now that your book has been released do you hope to have it adapted into a film like the talks of Motley Crue's "Dirt"? You share a lot of similar stories and run-ins.

Steven Adler: Oh, hell yeah I want a movie. I wanted Leif Garrett to play me but he's just looking too hard dude. I don't think he'll be able to pull it off. I know who I want to have to play Slash though, the guy from Entourage, [pauses]...Adrien [Grenier], he's definitely playing Slash. The other guys I don't know, Axl is going to be played by Mickey Rourke not because they're buddies but Axl is a hard motherfucker; they're similar. The next time I see him I want a hug from the asshole real bad. You know how cool it was to have a life with Steven Tyler, Nikki Sixx, Robert Crosby...they were like my big brothers so yeah, there's a lot of similar stories. Nikki's book being turned into a movie is awesome. He's been a part of my life since I was 12 years old, and of course he's gonna talk about me. I saved his fucking life.

Rukus Magazine: Since you're raving about your former GN'R bandmates, what's your current standing with them?

Steven Adler: We're like 5 brothers, and what do brothers do best...they fight. Shit happens but time heals all wounds. I just played in Europe a month and a half ago and for the last show in London, Duff came up and played "My Michelle" and "It's so easy." He's so great. Slash was there, too. They're all great; I always say those guys are like my big brothers except Slash, he's my little Brother because I'm 6 months older than him. Besides Duff being 6'6,' I look up to him. I used to call him Dr. Love McKagan because back in the day he could walk into a room and he could be talking to anyone and every girl would be staring and trying to talk to him.

Rukus Magazine: GN'R will be eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame in 2012. Will you go with them?

Steven Adler: We're not eligible! We're getting in there. It's all about us, it's all about me and my brothers and we are going to be there and I'm not going to hear another fucking word about it.

Page through to the interview to continue here: http://rukusmag.com/issues/2011/flipmag0611.html

Adler is right about one thing... Mickey Rourke would be perfect as Axl. 

Dr. Love McKagan   :rofl:

Never going to happen... unless they change all of the names and situations like they did with Judas Priest in Rock Star.

So the part of Axl Rose in his 20's should be played by a guy approaching 60? Let's hope this movie never gets made.

I have a great idea on who should play Duff...

Dolph Lundgren!!!!!! lol  Their names are even kind of similar.   

I like Stevens attatude about the Rock N` Roll hall of fame

I get kind of sick N' tired of hearing Steven talk about GN'R. He was in the band for 4 years and was sacked 21 years ago.
I understand he is proud of what he achieved with the band, but non of the others live off of the name anymore. They have disassociated themselves from the GN'R name, to a certain degree, and have achieved a hell of a lot more than Steven. Well, maybe not Izzy but he is pretty cruisy and I doubt that kind of thing would worry him, too much.

i kind of agree but izzy has made lots of great records that he could(i think he is) be very proud of

thats the last thing i want is a guns movie based on stevens account fuck that would really blow. i think duff and axl should make a movie scriped not steven concidering he was not even on the illusions tour!

yes great idea, lets base a GNR movie on the least interesting member in the history of the band.  I want some of whatever it is that Steven is still on.

Personally I don't think any movie should be made at all. Why have actors play a bunch of parts that won't look as authentic as the real thing we know so well? Biopics are great when you don't know all that much about the subject. But the hardcore GNR fans will probably hate any movie based on the band.

a movie based on axl would be nice and MORE INTERESTING

Steven had a HUGE part in making AFD a classic album

i know people lost their respect and he comes off like some talentless lucky clown that stumbled into a great band but He helped make AFD's groove one of the greatest of all time.

He may not be technically great but there is no comparison in the drumming of Appetite vs all the other GNR albums.

His drumming is shit u can sing a long to. the ultimate air drum album. all time great memorable beats.

Steven is a lot of things, but I wouldn't call him "the least interesting" of the band.  If anything, Steven is very entertaining and outspoken.  I think he is much more interesting than Izzy or Matt.   I think Steven really captures the attitude of what early GNR was all about as far as being dangerous and rebellous.   That being said,  yea no reason for a movie based on his accounts...just him being delusional and daydreaming. 

I don't know whats interesting about another junkie rockstar who threw it all away, seriously now.  I thought Matt Sorum was more interesting than him, and I like his intensity behind the kit as well.  Ever watch an interview with Sorum, that dude is hysterical, you ask him about GNR and hes like "whatever dude", just totally happy with where he is at, not bitter at all.  You would think he would have way more of right to be bitter than Steven, Matt didn't get fired for drugs or for being a wreck.  I feel terrible for Adler, it really sucks, and I don't even watch him on those reality shows.

 To me Matt Sorum is the drummer of "old guns", now that has a lot to do with the fact that I got into the band when the Illusions came out, so i was never a fan when Steven was still in the group.  Also Steven has had what, 20 years to get his act together and still hasn't done it?  How the fuck can you be former drummer of Guns N Roses and not be able to gather up some musicians and at least get a decent record deal?

listen to Appetite and then UYI

not even close.

appettie the drums are "Melodic" U can sing a long to the drum beats.. on UYI the drums for the most part are just there....

I really don't have an interest in a GN'R movie, but wouldn't say Adler is the least interesting either.

I like Sorum, but Adler was behind the kit on AFD, Lies, and involved in the process of shaping all the songs on UYIs.
In other words, he had a hand in GN'R's most successful albums.

Why would Sorum be bitter? He's happy as shit, and rightfully so. He hit the lottery, walked into the perfect situation, twice. Once with the Cult, and then Guns at the height of their popularity.
He was a hired gun who has absolutely nothing to be bitter about.

I don't care for reality TV, so I haven't caught Celebrity Rehab, but I've read Adler's interviews, and to me it's pretty sad.
Granted he made the decision/mistake to get into drugs, a decision all his bandmates also made, but Adler has clearly had the toughest time kicking the addiction.
It's easy to write someone off as just another junky, but they were all junkys, and no better than Adler. It could very well be as simple as him having a more addictive personality.

I understand 100% why the band went on without him, but I think it's hilarious that people say he's pathetic and should just get over it.
Think about the life he had and what it turned into. He obviously regrets what happened, and in his mind wants another chance to make it right.
Sadly, I don't expect that to change until he either gets that chance, or dies.

As far as I'm concerned, as pathetic as he may appear in some peoples eyes, he could die today, having accomplished more than any of us posting in this forum, addiction and all.

I just want to say to Steven... Relax dude... He missed what 4-5 years? 

Exactly. 4-5 years that no one including Axl look back on real fondly anyways.

Well I agree for the most part. He missed out on what was one of the greatest tours in history, but aside from that, GNR died in 93 in most peoples eyes so he didnt miss much.

4 or 5 years?  its been 20 years, GNR hasn't gone anywhere.  Also those 4-5 years you refer to were the glory years of the band, when they were the biggest band on the planet, playing gigs 5X the size of anything Adler ever played.  Their first headlining arena tour was with Sorum, so Adler didn't even get to to do that.

I thought the Illusions pissed on all over Appetite, and to me Appetite is a near perfect record, so that makes the Illusions god-like in my eyes.

Stevens drumming is average, and fits Appetite well, but certainly doesn't make the record.  Personally a little too much cowbell for my taste, and he smiles when hes playing too much...that bothers me... :hihi:

I thought the re-recorded drums on the '99 version of Sweet Child from Big Daddy were better than anything Steven did.  I think it was Freese on drums there.  Its no wonder Axl talked about re-recording Appetite specifically to fix the drum situation.

It's been 20 years and not a day goes by where you don't hear an AFD song on the radio. I haven't heard a Chinese Democracy song on the radio since 2008.

Adler missed a chance to tour all the material he had a hand in creating when the band was at the peak of it's popularity, but he didn't miss much else in my opinion.
The band started to die when he left. They were still the best live act possibly of all time over the next couple of years, but the end was in sight. I believe I read his departure was one of the many reasons Izzy left, and in my opinion, Izzy leaving killed the band.

I love the Illusions as much as AFD, and I think Sorum's drumming on it is great, but you can't discount the fact that he came in after Adler and the band already had done the dirty work.

Adler helped shape most, if not every song that was on the Illusions. I have multiple demo versions of most UYI tracks, most with Adler behind the kit. Hell, even Spaghetti era songs were being worked out when he was in the band. Gilby and Sorum essentially came in after the creative process was over.

Axl re-recording AFD is about as good an idea as Adler's Appetite doing the same. No interest in hearing it.
It's one of, if not the greatest hard rock albums of all time. Leave it alone.

Good luck with that Steven. Getting this bunch of people to agree on anything let alone to give permission to use there likenesses in a movie will never happen.

name one song on CD that even comes close to Paradise City drum wise


U can never have enough Cowbell.


/argument

I can name several, but that will only degenerate this discussion into something unnecessary  :peace:

Ali

Go anywhere and play ONLy PC drumbeat and i guarantee almost everyone knows what the song is

It is damn near We Will Rock You iconic

yes, but that can also be played by any 5 year old with a starter kit.  That drum beat hardly made the song, I thought Axl's voice and Slash's solos made that song.

By the way "You Could Be Mine" has the best drum beat of any "old guns" song, and that was not played by Steven Adler.

I'm not discrediting the drumming of Guns N Roses, but GNR has never really been known as a "drummers band" like Zeppelin or Dream Theater.  They have good rock n roll drumming but not great, where they excel past everyone else is Axl's songwriting/voice and their guitar playing.


I would also like to point out how you guys are defending Steven Adler to the death, but until recently he has done nothing but shit on GNR, Axl, and "Chines Democracy" for the last 10 years.  But now he has some weird delusion that a reunion is going to happen so he is kissing Axl's ass again.  I love how in his mind he thinks he can just completely waste his life for the  last 20 years and just step back into the band..dude needs to get over it.  Although if a reunion ever did happen, I would love to see his reaction when he watches Matt Sorum step behind the kit at the first show.. :hihi:

According to this page there should be a demo version of YCBM with Steven behind the drums: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/misc/recordingsessions.html (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/misc/recordingsessions.html)
I don't think I ever heard it. Does anyone have that demo?

You Could be Mine was written by 1987, if not earlier, originally slated to be released on AFD.
I have demos for most of the UYI tracks, but can't remember off the top of my head if I've heard the YCBM.
I have a hard time imagining the beat changing drastically. Only big difference I would think is that Sorum possibly added to it, like the intro(which is the balls) but who knows, maybe he didn't.

I personally don't care what Steven says or thinks of Sorum, or Axl and the current lineup, or whatever any of the former members and Axl have to say about each other.
They have all at one point said disparaging things about each other in the press, which to us sounds childish, but we aren't them. We weren't there, and I'm sure they have their reasons.

If I based my opinion of them on what they say publicly, it wouldn't be a very high one. I love their music, and am not going to try and discredit anyones involvement.
Adler helped shape all of the classic GN'R era records. Matt Sorum came in, played great, Gilby held his own live and at the time it appeared the band didn't skip a beat.
But in hindsight, that era of GN'R was finished as a productive band creatively once Adler and Stradlin were gone.

steven said on twitter the other day he wrote YCBM intro.

Bodhi i dont care bout technical.. I dont want a robot or a drum machine. i want a guy with feel,soul and swing.

Steven by far leads in all those depts

. 

I agree with D. I'm aware of Steven's limitations as a drummer, but I still think he was the perfect fit for that band.  I like ALL of the members.  I love Steven's drumming on It's So Easy...it really drives the song IMO.  Out to Get Me and Rocket Queen also have good drumming.  It wasn't until I saw Adler's Appetite live that I realized how much Steven brought.  At the end of the day, Steven has a lot of great songs under his belt.   I was a huge fan of Adler's EP too, I think there are some great songs on it, and I think Steven works with some great musicians that are kind of under the radar.  I also thought Baby Can't Drive was one of the best songs on Slash's album, and one of the few songs where Slash had his classic tone.