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Title: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 20, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'

05/20/2011

Is it a totally different experience working with GNR as opposed to working with Sixx: A.M.?

Dj Ashba: They?re very much completely two totally different beasts. I know Axl tends to get a bad rap because people believe what the media force feeds them and they believe what they wanna believe. ?Cause I think when anybody gets that big, it?s the media?s job, they feel, if we don?t tear ?em down then we?re not doing our jobs. The media loves to build people up just to tear ?em down. I?ll never get that because if you actually sit down and get to know Axl, he is very intelligent, very talented, and probably one of the funniest guys I?ve ever met in my life. He?s constantly cracking jokes left and right; he?s really just a good-hearted person.

Nobody could have survived all of these years without a lot of talent.

He?s like anybody else; the thing I like about Axl is he?s the real deal. He gives you the option?you can either be his friend or fuck him over. So I think he?s like anybody only he doesn?t pussyfoot around the subject. If you do him wrong, he?s gonna call you out on it. But he gives everybody the opportunity to be cool; he treats you like you treat him. He?s just a cool fuckin? guy and I can?t really say enough nice things about him. He?s got more talent in his pinkie than most people out there. It?s sickening to sit there and watch this guy play piano in his hotel room and he?s singing shit equally as great as ?November Rain? that has never been recorded. I just sit there with my mouth open and I?m like, ?Holy fuck.? He?s like, ?This is just stuff I?m tinkering around on? and I?m like, ?Dude, you gotta get this out to the public. This is sick.? So he has a lot of great songs up his sleeve that I pray to god the world could hear one day ?cause it?s gonna blow people?s minds.

Do you bring a different guitar personality to the Guns songs than you do to the Sixx: A.M. songs?

Yeah; I approach ?em both completely different. Obviously I grew up a fan of Guns N? Roses and I respect what they?ve done for the world of music. I always look at it like, ?Listen, I?m joining something that has been around for many, many years that is already huge? and is one of the biggest bands in the world. I?m stepping in the shoes of legendary guitar player so it?s like separating yourself from the song as a producer. I could come into this and go, ?You know what? I wanna play my own solos and do my own thing in ?Sweet Child ?O Mine.? But me as a fan, if I were to show up and see some new guy on stage, what would I really want to hear? Well you?d want to hear somebody staying as true to what you grew up listening to. So for me with all the songs that have already been recorded, of course I?m bringing my own flair and style to ?em but I?m trying to do ?em justice by staying as true to these songs as I possibly can. Because I just feel like they deserve that; they?re so classic that you can?t really vary off of them too much because at that point it becomes over-playing and showing off.

You were a fan of Guns back in the day?

Guns have been a big influence on my life. It?s easy for me to fall into that because it?s part of my style too so it?s very natural for me to play similar to the stuff Slash plays. He has a very blues-based thing and I grew up heavily on that. It isn?t like I?m playing some foreign style that I?m not used to.

You were playing that bluesy type of guitar in Beautiful Creatures.

Yeah, if you pick up the Beautiful Creatures record you?ll hear more of that side of my playing; more of that Guns ?N Roses style of playing. If you listen to the song ?New Orleans? it?s very kind of a Guns sound. The stuff I?m excited about is the new stuff and try to stay true to the sound of Guns and bringing in a lot more of my influence into it.

Did you enjoy working on the Beautiful Creatures record?

Absolutely. Sean [Beavan; producer] was amazing. Beautiful Creatures to this day, I don?t think it got its fair shot. Whether it was ahead of its time or whatever it was, to this day it?s another record that I?ll always be proud of. I think there are some amazing songs on there and I think it?s just a great rock and roll record and we really showcased the guitars on that album. It did well but I really believe in my heart it should have done a lot better.

You?re also involved in a number of business ventures including Ashba Media and Ashbaland Studios.

I don?t look at myself as a rock star; I look at myself as a businessman and an entrepreneur. I love to create and I?m very artistic. I have a great clothing line called Ashba Swag; I?m bringing my stage clothing to the fans. Ashba Media is a graphic design agency and we?re creating a lot of cool products. We have the Demented Collection of guitars and we?re working on a signature Les Paul. We have the Ashba Tuner on iTunes, which is a professional guitar tuner. And of course Ashbaland Studios is where I create all the music: produce, write and I?m starting to get into scoring. I?m signing on to do a really cool horror movie and it?s just a lot of fun. I love creating.

Do you think that Nikki is more fulfilled in Sixx:A.M. than he is in Motley Crue?

I think he has a love for both; I think it?s two completely different animals. Obviously he grew up with Motley and they grew up as kids and they?re best friends. I think Sixx:A.M. is fresh and it?s new and it?s fun and exciting and it allows him?just like me?to be artistically free. It?s hard to find a project that actually does well in this world that people accept when you?re being this artsy with it. So I think, yeah, we?re all getting huge pleasure out of being able to really be just free and true to our art. I think Nikki is able to do things in Motley that obviously Sixx:A.M. would never do. So I think it?s just two totally different things and thank god they?re both very successful. And the same with Guns; I get to do stuff in Guns N? Roses that I would never be able to get away with in Sixx:A.M. and vice versa. It?s a great headspace to go from the Sixx:A.M. world to jumping out on tour and writing Guns N? Roses songs. It?s awesome as an artist to be able to change it up and switch gears and go, ?OK, now we?re in Guns N? Roses land and let?s focus in on really kickass, sleazy, dirty rock and roll.? I just love it.

Full interview here: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/dj_ashba_unrecorded_axls_songs_could_blow_peoples_minds.html


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: axlrosegnr on May 20, 2011, 01:56:27 PM
DJ is exactly what Guns needed. :)


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 20, 2011, 03:44:27 PM

It?s sickening to sit there and watch this guy play piano in his hotel room and he?s singing shit equally as great as ?November Rain? that has never been recorded.


Oh come on...that's not fair. :hihi:

I really hope we get to hear some of this one day.



Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: Annie on May 20, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
I for one, am ready to have my mind be blown!


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: willow on May 20, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
DJ is exactly what Guns needed. :)

I loved Robin but I totally agree with you! This is the line up!!!


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: draguns on May 20, 2011, 06:40:16 PM
I am VERY glad that DJ is part of GNR!!! He has the Guns mentality and brings about the same attitude. Axl did well picking him. I really can't wait to see DJ live and in person along with studio tracks.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: estebanf on May 20, 2011, 06:54:10 PM
Quote
Do you bring a different guitar personality to the Guns songs than you do to the Sixx: A.M. songs?

Yeah; I approach ?em both completely different. Obviously I grew up a fan of Guns N? Roses and I respect what they?ve done for the world of music. I always look at it like, ?Listen, I?m joining something that has been around for many, many years that is already huge? and is one of the biggest bands in the world. I?m stepping in the shoes of legendary guitar player so it?s like separating yourself from the song as a producer. I could come into this and go, ?You know what? I wanna play my own solos and do my own thing in ?Sweet Child ?O Mine.? But me as a fan, if I were to show up and see some new guy on stage, what would I really want to hear? Well you?d want to hear somebody staying as true to what you grew up listening to. So for me with all the songs that have already been recorded, of course I?m bringing my own flair and style to ?em but I?m trying to do ?em justice by staying as true to these songs as I possibly can. Because I just feel like they deserve that; they?re so classic that you can?t really vary off of them too much because at that point it becomes over-playing and showing off.

I know this is just a matter of tastes and opinions, but this is the exact reason why I cant fully dig DJ and why I miss Robin so much.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: gnrjanus on May 20, 2011, 07:43:23 PM
So we are getting like 10 the same interviews this week?


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 20, 2011, 07:45:43 PM
So we are getting like 10 the same interviews this week?

If it's not too quiet, it's too noisy...




/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: willow on May 21, 2011, 08:04:20 AM
So we are getting like 10 the same interviews this week?

If it's not too quiet, it's too noisy...




/jarmo


LOL You can't ever please them.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: Z?phyr on May 21, 2011, 09:30:03 AM
After being a fan for over 20 years (24 i think) this is the best line up IMHO, it's like the past 10 or so years needed to happen to finally come to this line up & be complete, I really hope this is the one to stay. (no offense to any previous members) Then the past 5 years have also been awesome to see Ron, Frank & Dj grow in there roles as a Gunner ! Meeting them last year on tour has only made my respect for them grow stronger, especially for Axl, in the end that's all they need I believe, our Respect for who they are and what they do !

Hope I'm not moaning to much, just had to get this of my chest...  :peace:


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: One.In.A.Million on May 21, 2011, 12:58:10 PM
So we are getting like 10 the same interviews this week?

If it's not too quiet, it's too noisy...



/jarmo


LOL You can't ever please them.

I don't think it's that to be honest, I think people would rather be hearing this kind of stuff from people like Axl, Dizzy or Chris. Simply because they are GN'R veterans, and this kind of comment coming from them would hold more salt.

We all know that Axl must have amazing material in the vaults, but being told by someone who's been in the band for 2 years is not very exciting. I know it's not just me, but you can't really deny that alot of DJ's recent interviews have contained alot of "loose" information.

Which basically means it can't be confirmed, or that it's just a wishful comment, or even hoping.  :o


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 21, 2011, 01:10:33 PM
WTF are you talking about? "It's not very exciting"?

How can it not be?

A band member says Axl has some amazing material that he's been tinkering with.



What can't be confirmed? That Axl has played songs for Dj in a hotel room on a piano? That Dj thinks Axl is pretty fucking talented? Or that Axl has a bad reputation in the media? Or that Axl could write amazing songs?



I understand about not getting your hopes up and expecting a new album with these songs within a few weeks, but some of the "negativity" from some of you is a bit puzzling.

You're constantly in these threads trying to kill any sign of positivity. Dj says something nice and you're there to remind people it doesn't mean anything.

We get it. It doesn't matter to you.







/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: horsey on May 21, 2011, 01:17:04 PM
So we are getting like 10 the same interviews this week?

If it's not too quiet, it's too noisy...




/jarmo

yep


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: One.In.A.Million on May 21, 2011, 01:17:55 PM
WTF are you talking about? "It's not very exciting"?

How can it not be?

A band member says Axl has some amazing material that he's been tinkering with.



What can't be confirmed? That Axl has played songs for Dj in a hotel room on a piano? That Dj thinks Axl is pretty fucking talented? Or that Axl has a bad reputation in the media? Or that Axl could write amazing songs?



I understand about not getting your hopes up and expecting a new album with these songs within a few weeks, but some of the "negativity" from some of you is a bit puzzling.

You're constantly in these threads trying to kill any sign of positivity. Dj says something nice and you're there to remind people it doesn't mean anything.

We get it. It doesn't matter to you.







/jarmo

What's wrong with urging people who are new to the boards who maybe don't know what the fans went through with Chinese Democracy. To stay level headed and to not take every word a new bandmember says like it's set in stone.

I started out in 2004 believing every positive comment and article about CD being released, and also concerts being announced etc. And I've come to realise, like alot of people around here, that you can't really get excited from a bandmembers comments, because we all know that it's subject to change in a minutes notice.

I don't see everything that comes from the GN'R camp in rose tinted spectacles, and that it's definitely going to happen. You can be a fan of the band, and remain level headed, and with GN'R, I'm afraid you have to be.  :)


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 21, 2011, 01:33:46 PM
What's wrong with urging people who are new to the boards who maybe don't know what the fans went through with Chinese Democracy. To stay level headed and to not take every word a new bandmember says like it's set in stone.

What's the problem with what he said?

Explain it to me.


What's the problem with Dj saying Axl is talented and has written some great songs that he played for Dj on piano in a hotel room?

What's the problem? You think he's lying? It didn't happen?



Why do you need to remind people it's not important? He didn't say anything about release dates or when he think it will be recorded/released. All that shit comes from others.

The headline even says UNRECORDED.....

If Dj said "Axl ordered me a great burger" would you object to that too? Saying it doesn't mean an album is coming out soon?  :hihi:


I started out in 2004 believing every positive comment and lead about CD being released, and also concerts being announced etc. And I've come to realise, like alot of people around here, that you can't really get excited from a bandmembers comments, because we all know that it's subject to change in a minutes notice.

Good for you. You have seven years of experience.

Some have more, some have less. Big deal.

I first heard the name Chinese Democracy mentioned in 1999. Hearing a band member say he hoped the album would be out in year X didn't really fuck up my life in any way.

On the contrary, it was nice to hear them talk about it when things were quiet.



In this particular case, it's nice to hear something positive. It's nice to see that Dj is excited about what might lie ahead. That to me is great news.


Everybody knows it's not simple as to just record these songs on a computer and then release them... You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.


I don't see everything that comes from the GN'R camp in rose tinted spectacles, and that it's definitely going to happen. You can be a fan of the band, and remain level headed, and with GN'R, I'm afraid you have to be.  :)


I'm just pointing out the obvious. He didn't say anything earth shattering. Yet, you feel like it's your duty as "the level headed" fan to point out that it means absolutely nothing.

Maybe to some it means something, maybe it doesn't.

Relax.




/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: One.In.A.Million on May 21, 2011, 01:48:44 PM
That's fine jarmo, but you don't have to look far to see thousands of fans who feel the same as I do...

And it's not about being a supportive fan, or being negative. It's about people forming their own opinions based on their own personal experiences with observing GN'R news, or interviews.

You are always positive aren't you jarmo  :hihi:, but that's you as an individual. And I respect you for doing that, but not everyone is going to have the same view as you.

And I'm not going to carry on because your just going to point out that this is your website and all..... which is right, but that doesn't stop people from having different opinions from yourself.  :)


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 21, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
I'm not seeking approval of others.

I react to something I don't agree with. In this case you whining when I can't see a reason why you have to. I mean, other than maybe you see it as your "duty" or you're just that kind of a person... I don't know.


And it's not about being a supportive fan, or being negative. It's about people forming their own opinions based on their own personal experiences with observing GN'R news, or interviews.


You don't think I have this kind of experience?



You are always positive aren't you jarmo  :hihi:, but that's you as an individual. And I respect you for doing that, but not everyone is going to have the same view as you.

Of course everybody doesn't have the same opinion.

I understand being cautious. I understand being careful. I understand the whole "don't get your hopes up" thing.


It's just that in this particular case I don't understand you.

You just didn't answer my question on why exactly what Dj said is so bad.


He didn't say he was writing songs for GN'R every day, he didn't say he hopes the new album will be out this year... He praised Axl's song writing skills, and you're objecting?





And I'm not going to carry on because your just going to point out that this is your website and all..... which is right, but that doesn't stop people from having different opinions from yourself.  :)


That's not an issue.

The issue is that you saw a comment by Dj, jumped in to remind everybody how it means nothing and it's not important.

When I asked you why, you failed to explain.


Remember when I joked that you seem to have an issue with Dj?

Suddenly you just reminded me of that again.





/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 21, 2011, 06:28:26 PM

We all know that Axl must have amazing material in the vaults, but being told by someone who's been in the band for 2 years is not very exciting. I know it's not just me, but you can't really deny that alot of DJ's recent interviews have contained alot of "loose" information.


I think you have to keep in mind these are interviews, not press releases, they're not "announcing" something.  The information may be "loose" because it's in conversation, an opinion.

And I don't care if it comes from the bellhop -- if someone hears Axl "singing shit equally as great as November Rain? in a hotel room, as long as it's credible...that's exciting. :hihi:



Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: D on May 21, 2011, 06:50:29 PM
DJ is definitely the perfect fit for GNR cause u know he genuinely loves GNR. I can't say everyone who has been in he band were a "TRUE" fan of it, so seeing DJ's respect and passion for the old is great.

Axl im sure has many great songs.. i just hope he releases them one day


Im sure everything DJ said about Axl is true, but I always keep shit real on here, so i gotta say this: DJ has never "recorded" with Axl. so he can't really comment to what that is like until he does. now does Axl get a bad rap that may not be 100 percent true? Sure

but i don't think every single person is making shit up. I would say in the studio,under pressure/stress, he can have his moments of not being easy.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 21, 2011, 07:40:35 PM
but I always keep shit real on here, so i gotta say this: DJ has never "recorded" with Axl.

And you know this how?

I have no idea if he has or if he hasn't.

But I don't say he hasn't when I don't know for sure.

Keeping shit real indeed...





/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: D on May 21, 2011, 09:53:53 PM
just saying, hanging out,touring and recording are way different beasts. Just look at the guitar players that have came in and out of GNR, i dont think Bucket left and  Robin left twice cause things were 100 percent always amazing. thats not necessarily saying Axl is a dick or an asshole but maybe the delays,recording schedules etc will frustrate even DJ after a while.  Im sure Axl is a super great guy but lets see if DJ can handle the studio version of Axl with all the pressure,stress,deadlines etc.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 21, 2011, 10:24:37 PM
You're definitely keeping shit real.....


You have no idea what you're talking about do you?

What exactly do you know about how Axl works in the studio?




/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: D on May 21, 2011, 10:46:25 PM
well, we've heard from interviews the super late night sessions, the down time in between etc  that isn't everyone's cup of tea. Everyone didn't quit for no reason right?


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 21, 2011, 10:54:55 PM
well, we've heard from interviews the super late night sessions, the down time in between etc  that isn't everyone's cup of tea. Everyone didn't quit for no reason right?


I'm sure everybody had their reasons.

But you assume things that will fit your idea of what must've happened.


For instance, you know nothing about how Dj prefers to work. Yet here you are "keeping shit real" and assuming.

You assume something that will validate your other assumptions. Does it make "shit real"? Not really....

 


/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: One.In.A.Million on May 22, 2011, 08:53:49 PM
well, we've heard from interviews the super late night sessions, the down time in between etc  that isn't everyone's cup of tea. Everyone didn't quit for no reason right?


I'm sure everybody had their reasons.

But you assume things that will fit your idea of what must've happened.


For instance, you know nothing about how Dj prefers to work. Yet here you are "keeping shit real" and assuming.

You assume something that will validate your other assumptions. Does it make "shit real"? Not really....

 


/jarmo

Come on jarmo, you can't deny that based on the history of countless of GN'R members leaving, has alot to do with them having a problem with Axls way of working. And it's not hard to work out why they could have a hard time in dealing with it, based on the downtime, and countless of stories we've heard from people who were there during those sessions.

I've read countless of interviews, where people have stated that Axl is a genius, but is sometimes hard to work with on a proffessional level. We are not just talking about Robin and Bucket (like D said), what about the countless of producers, managers, tour personel, who have left because of them "colliding" with Axl.

I love Axl and GN'R, but I too think that you can't lie to yourself and think that everyone who has left GN'R or got on the wrong side of Axl, is totally in the wrong.....


And to answer your question, I'm not saying what DJ said is bad at all. You stated that this thread isn't as popular, because people who think they are cool choose to ignore it. So I simply answered that I think the problem was that fans have heard this kind of comment dozens of times before. About Axl sitting on 3 amazing albums, and having brilliant material up his sleeve. So fans aren't going to get ecstatic about news they've heard before, and that's the reason why I felt the thread wasn't "popular".  : ok:


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 22, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
Come on jarmo, you can't deny that based on the history of countless of GN'R members leaving, has alot to do with them having a problem with Axls way of working. And it's not hard to work out why they could have a hard time in dealing with it, based on the downtime, and countless of stories we've heard from people who were there during those sessions.

I've read countless of interviews, where people have stated that Axl is a genius, but is sometimes hard to work with on a proffessional level. We are not just talking about Robin and Bucket (like D said), what about the countless of producers, managers, tour personel, who have left because of them "colliding" with Axl.


What the hell does that have to do with you guys assuming you know how Dj is and how he likes to work?

Aren't you guys supposed to be the ones stopping the assumptions and people making shit up? And what are you doing?

You're assuming Dj can't get along with Axl in the studio.

Good job!



I love Axl and GN'R, but I too think that you can't lie to yourself and think that everyone who has left GN'R or got on the wrong side of Axl, is totally in the wrong.....


How does this relate to Dj saying nice things about Axl's song writing?

I know it hurts that Robin isn't in the band.



And to answer your question, I'm not saying what DJ said is bad at all.


Good.

You have a funny way of showing it.




You stated that this thread isn't as popular, because people who think they are cool choose to ignore it. So I simply answered that I think the problem was that fans have heard this kind of comment dozens of times before. About Axl sitting on 3 amazing albums, and having brilliant material up his sleeve. So fans aren't going to get ecstatic about news they've heard before, and that's the reason why I felt the thread wasn't "popular".  : ok:


I wasn't talking about thread popularity.

I thought it was obvious.

I'm talking about the simple fact that as soon as something nice is said, it generates less interest than something negative. It's ignored. It's like it never happened.

You can say what you want about how people have heard it before. We have all heard the "don't get your hopes up" line from you before, but you don't seem tired of repeating it in almost every thread....



Then we have some people who take it upon themselves to jump into a thread that's positive to try to twist it into something else to make it negative.

Like this one. Nice comments about Axl as a song writer is now turned into you two assuming Dj can't record with Axl because their personalities don't match.


Which is what you have been doing in most Dj related threads lately. Hence the joke about you having problems with Dj because he replaced your favorite (former) member......




/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: One.In.A.Million on May 22, 2011, 09:48:51 PM
Can you outline the part where I said that DJ can't get along with Axl, and the two can't record together.  :P

I was extending the debate that you and D started to have, in regards to people being able to work with Axl. And I like how whenever you want to get one over on me, you have to mention Robin. That's very grown up of you, and I also love how the last few mentions of Robin in the main thread, have come from you, in a negative way.

What I'm saying has nothing to do with Robins departure, but you seem happy beating that dead horse to "get one over" on us.  ::)

Ron never had no problem in talking positively about Robin the other night, so I don't see why you have to bring his name up all the time to discredit peoples opinions, in which you don't like.  : ok:


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 22, 2011, 10:07:40 PM
Can you outline the part where I said that DJ can't get along with Axl, and the two can't record together.  :P

Isn't that the whole idea of your discussion?

Why else would you bring it into this topic?

I know you didn't, D did. But you're basically agreeing with him.

If you didn't think it was a problem, I suppose you wouldn't go on and on about it?



I was extending the debate that you and D started to have, in regards to people being able to work with Axl. And I like how whenever you want to get one over on me, you have to mention Robin. That's very grown up of you, and I also love how the last few mentions of Robin in the main thread, have come from you, in a negative way.

Of course you were extending it.

A thread about Dj, you have to "extend" something to make sure nobody "gets their hopes up".

Imagine if somebody would think Dj gets along fine with Axl? The horror!

Good thing you're here to make sure nobody twists anything into meaning something else. Like Dj praising Axl into meaning Dj has never worked with Axl properly and he will most likely not get along with Axl.

Oh wait. That's what you're doing! Oops!




What I'm saying has nothing to do with Robins departure, but you seem happy beating that dead horse to "get one over" on us.  ::)

It doesn't.

All I see is a guy with a Robin avatar making special appearances in most threads about Dj in order to stop people from making assumptions and/or getting the wrong idea. Or so he claims.

Except, in this thread he's helping people get the wrong idea.



Ron never had no problem in talking positively about Robin the other night, so I don't see why you have to bring his name up all the time to discredit peoples opinions, in which you don't like.  : ok:

I don't have any problems with Robin.

I just think it's amusing to see some of the Robin fans act like they have no problems with Dj. When in fact they like to post shit about Dj every chance they get and then act like nothing.

GN'R needs Robin back and things like that.

Now you wouldn't be one of those fans now would you? Nah..... Of course not. :)





/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: One.In.A.Million on May 22, 2011, 10:26:21 PM
Again jarmo, please don't put words in my mouth.

I never said that DJ can't work with Axl, in fact I think that DJ out of all of the current members probably get's along with Axl the best. You and D, started discussing that subject, and I was talking about the general feeling over the last 20 years, about Axl being a genius but hard to work with on a daily basis......That comment had nothing to do with the current situation with DJ.

And about Robin, my personal feelings about Robin being back in the band has nothing to do with my comments in recent DJ threads. When DJ came onto the forum to post, I instantly said "Thank you, it means alot for us to have you come by the forum". So, if I had some underlining agenda to dismiss DJ all the time, why would I do that.  ::)

I honestly don't know why your trying to make out that I'm saying that DJ can't work with Axl, I never said that...

By all of the negative Robin comments, it really is hard to believe that you have no problem with Robin. And guess what?, it all started when he left the band. No surprise there in your case, but other people who were genuine fans of Robin, are still going to support him and talk positively about his 10+ years in GN'R......I hope that doesn't bother you too much.  :P


Wow, I even used the bold feature again............ aint I the rebel.  :hihi:

 :D


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 22, 2011, 10:38:13 PM
I never said that DJ can't work with Axl, in fact I think that DJ out of all of the current members probably get's along with Axl the best. You and D, started discussing that subject, and I was talking about the general feeling over the last 20 years, about Axl being a genius but hard to work with on a daily basis......That comment had nothing to do with the current situation with DJ.


Why do you even need to bring that up?



And about Robin, my personal feelings about Robin being back in the band has nothing to do with my comments in recent DJ threads. When DJ came onto the forum to post, I instantly said "Thank you, it means alot for us to have you come by the forum". So, if I had some underlining agenda to dismiss DJ all the time, why would I do that.  ::)


I don't know why somebody would openly dismiss the band they claim to love and post shit about Dj and then pretend like they didn't?

Yes, we all know how you act here. That's not the point.

Of course you're acting nice here. That doesn't prove anything when you know the truth now does it?



By all of the negative Robin comments, it really is hard to believe that you have no problem with Robin. And guess what?, it all started when he left the band. No surprise there in your case, but other people who were genuine fans of Robin, are still going to support him and talk positively about his 10+ years in GN'R......I hope that doesn't bother you too much.  :P

I didn't say one negative thing about Robin in this thread.

I was taking about some of his fans, like yourself.

It's just in bad taste.... The way you pretend.



I just wanna let you know one thing. I can read. Yes, even English.

That's all you need to go before you go further with your "I like Dj" act. You're not fooling me. Or anybody else who can read.


By the way, it's not 2002 anymore, I'm sorry.





/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: One.In.A.Million on May 22, 2011, 10:53:14 PM
I honestly don't know why your turning this thread into a trial, on does One.In.A.Million like DJ.  :D

If DJ being in the band was such a big problem for me, why would I travel to another continent, and other various European countries to see the band live 10 times in 2010.......Yes, I must dispise the guy.  :rofl:

And if you talking about my comments on other "various" sites, then so what?. I have an opinion and I can express it in which I choose, I adhere to the forums rules and refrain myself from posting comments like that on the board. Don't criticise me for being "two-faced", when I wouldn't be allowed to post my "true" feelings anyway.

What I have said on here or any other sites, is exactly what I would tell any fans I meet on my travels or indeed any bandmembers I happen to meet (even DJ). If you open your eyes jarmo, there are millions of GN'R fans who have more extreme views on GN'R (past and present).

Just because you can censor alot of the stuff because this is your site, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.  :yes:

Your views on GN'R, actually takes away from the notion you try to get across. Which is that GN'R are a band, especially when you seem to change your views instantly, on any member or manager who suddenly is no longer associated with the band.  :P


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: carmiedisco12 on May 23, 2011, 04:49:03 AM
A few quick comments.

1- Awesome last post One in a Million.
2 - Personally I think Robin sucked....totally ruined This I love IMHO.....torture to listen to his solo's. I haven't listened to catcher in ages but If he did the solo's in that (I can't recall) then it is just so sad that Brian May's excellent work wasn't kept.
3 - I like DJ, he was awesome live, however the 3 album thing has been a dick tease for close to a decade, so I think most GNR fans just smile a little and yawn (sadly but fool me once.....).
4 - It can't be coincidence that so many have the same views. If you are the only one that thinks the sky is Pink yet everyone else tries to point out it's blue.....then you have to think hmmmm maybe theres a grain of truth in this.
5 - Hopefully we get to hear these songs 'soon'. I know Axl's a perfectionist but for me personally that attitude kinda made lesser albums of the Illusions and CD. I prefer most songs I've heard live rather than the recorded versions which are a bit busy and overproduced (yes I know Jarmo hates that term but it's true)
6 - Personally I'm praying we don't get 9 minute slow/mid paced epics....I find myself skipping those on my MP3 player. There are lots of different styles other than Rock or Ballad (just look at Radioheads OK computer). I know my opinion doesn't count for much but I'd love to see a GNR album a bit like VillageGorrillaHead.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on May 23, 2011, 05:51:42 AM
Quote
A few quick comments.

5 - Hopefully we get to hear these songs 'soon'. I know Axl's a perfectionist but for me personally that attitude kinda made lesser albums of the Illusions and CD. I prefer most songs I've heard live rather than the recorded versions which are a bit busy and overproduced (yes I know Jarmo hates that term but it's true)
6 - Personally I'm praying we don't get 9 minute slow/mid paced epics....I find myself skipping those on my MP3 player. There are lots of different styles other than Rock or Ballad (just look at Radioheads OK computer). I know my opinion doesn't count for much but I'd love to see a GNR album a bit like VillageGorrillaHead.

Actually brings up an interesting question for people, one that may be needed in another thread...but considering how diverse the sound of CD was, combined with the Gnr roots and Axl's obvious interest in pushing the envelope... I wonder what kind of direction most would like to see this band go in... I have to differ a bit from you in that, I think if we got an album of exactly what Ashba was talking about (heavy piano) - it would be something I'd be very interested in hearing. I still get chills listening to some of the piano jams before NR was played live back in the day...sometimes very, very intense stuff.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: DeN on May 23, 2011, 07:11:07 AM
can't wait to hear that...I hope Axl will go to the studios really soon with the guys.


Slash's fans will always call for a reunion
Robin's fans will always call for a return
Buckethead fans didn't care too much  :hihi:

personally I'm waiting DJ studio's work with Guns to judge him.

live, he's a good entertainer, he's good looking for the gals and the gays
(who said that doesn't count in rock n'roll?) and he can play the shit.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 23, 2011, 10:10:06 AM
I honestly don't know why your turning this thread into a trial, on does One.In.A.Million like DJ.  :D

Because you're acting like you're some kind of saint and we both know your true opinion.

If you had some sense, you wouldn't have started posting the same shit in almost every thread about Dj and you could still pretend...



If DJ being in the band was such a big problem for me, why would I travel to another continent, and other various European countries to see the band live 10 times in 2010.......Yes, I must dispise the guy.  :rofl:

Going to shows doesn't stop you from spewing your hate now does it?



And if you talking about my comments on other "various" sites, then so what?. I have an opinion and I can express it in which I choose, I adhere to the forums rules and refrain myself from posting comments like that on the board. Don't criticise me for being "two-faced", when I wouldn't be allowed to post my "true" feelings anyway.

It is two faced when you act like you're so cool with Dj here in front of people on this board only to "prove" some point.

You're trying to show everybody how I'm after some poor supportive GN'R fan. Which I'm not.

I have my reasons on thinking that you have issues with Dj and those issues are showing. While you act like nothing and pretend.

I'm only making sure people know why I think what I do about you.


What I have said on here or any other sites, is exactly what I would tell any fans I meet on my travels or indeed any bandmembers I happen to meet (even DJ). If you open your eyes jarmo, there are millions of GN'R fans who have more extreme views on GN'R (past and present).


I don't care. One negative extreme or the other, it's all the same "it was better back then" crap.



Just because you can censor alot of the stuff because this is your site, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.  :yes:

Just because I choose to not involve myself with those people you mean.


Your views on GN'R, actually takes away from the notion you try to get across. Which is that GN'R are a band, especially when you seem to change your views instantly, on any member or manager who suddenly is no longer associated with the band.  :P

Shows how much you know.

Just like in this case, where you're claiming to be saving the world from assumptions and wrong information courtesy of Dj, you choose to believe what others tell you.

You never asked me. You assumed I have issues with Robin. Because it fits your opinion.

It doesn't matter that it's not true.



All I saw was a guy seeing an opportunity to attack Dj once again, and he took it. As usual. But then when he's called out on it, he acts like he's a great fan of Dj. When we both know it's not true...



People are making all kinds of assumptions, mostly negative, in this thread while they claim they are the ones "keeping shit real" and making sure fans don't get their hopes up etc. It's ironic.

How real is something you know absolutely nothing about?



personally I'm waiting DJ studio's work with Guns to judge him.

live, he's a good entertainer, he's good looking for the gals and the gays
(who said that doesn't count in rock n'roll?) and he can play the shit.


At least somebody is "keeping shit real".  : ok:




/jarmo



Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: LongGoneDay on May 23, 2011, 10:48:18 AM
Quote
A few quick comments.

5 - Hopefully we get to hear these songs 'soon'. I know Axl's a perfectionist but for me personally that attitude kinda made lesser albums of the Illusions and CD. I prefer most songs I've heard live rather than the recorded versions which are a bit busy and overproduced (yes I know Jarmo hates that term but it's true)
6 - Personally I'm praying we don't get 9 minute slow/mid paced epics....I find myself skipping those on my MP3 player. There are lots of different styles other than Rock or Ballad (just look at Radioheads OK computer). I know my opinion doesn't count for much but I'd love to see a GNR album a bit like VillageGorrillaHead.

Actually brings up an interesting question for people, one that may be needed in another thread...but considering how diverse the sound of CD was, combined with the Gnr roots and Axl's obvious interest in pushing the envelope... I wonder what kind of direction most would like to see this band go in... I have to differ a bit from you in that, I think if we got an album of exactly what Ashba was talking about (heavy piano) - it would be something I'd be very interested in hearing. I still get chills listening to some of the piano jams before NR was played live back in the day...sometimes very, very intense stuff.

I too enjoy the live versions. I'd like to hear them simplify it a bit in the studio.
A heavy piano driven record sounds great to me.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 23, 2011, 11:30:31 AM
A heavy piano driven record sounds great to me.

It's kinda funny how the old "you can't please everyone" thing is so often true.

There's no magic formula on what will work....

Some prefer albums with more quiet songs, others prefer the majority of songs to be loud, fast etc.



/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: sofine11 on May 23, 2011, 11:37:44 AM
Just sayin, we had no idea that Ron had recorded parts for CD until it was announced officially by the band in 2007.  He never came out and facebooked "Just got out of the studio with Axl.  Laid down some killer riffs for the album!" 

That said, we have no idea whether DJ has done the same for the next album over the past few months, or if that's what he was referring to when he said that he's been working on new songs with Axl.

For all we know, the current plan could be to get the album out later this year, and they're securing the details behind the scenes.  Who knows?


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: LongGoneDay on May 23, 2011, 11:57:03 AM
A heavy piano driven record sounds great to me.

It's kinda funny how the old "you can't please everyone" thing is so often true.

There's no magic formula on what will work....

Some prefer albums with more quiet songs, others prefer the majority of songs to be loud, fast etc.



/jarmo

There are plenty of directions they can go, and I can imagine sounding great. Axl has certainly proven his versatility over the years.


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: westcoast_junkie on May 23, 2011, 12:55:30 PM
It's not "could blow people's minds", it's "Will blow people's minds"  :yes:

Funny to observe the discussion here BTW!!


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: One.In.A.Million on May 23, 2011, 02:47:27 PM
In regards to jarmo...

Please don't go on about me having secret motives, and being 2 faced when we both know what you did recently.  :hihi:

I'll give you a clue, it was instantly censored..... you probably got it by now. So don't try to bring my ethic into question when I have a different opinion about something than you do. Alot of people believe it or not, are scared to disagree with you because of your connections with the band, I'm not.

I don't need your approval to make myself feel content in being "a good fan"...

The thing with you, is you are good with "words" and twisting things around to fit your agenda. By me commenting in a thread, you've managed to turn this thread totally off subject, and you've started needlessly expressing seriously "offtrack" views about myself. And the funny thing is, is that before I even posted in this thread, another poster already commented "so we are going to get the same 10 interviews everyweek? (from DJ)"........but you chose to target me, no surprise. My avatar probably makes you angry.  :P

But I suppose you can do that, because you run the place right?. Anyone else and it would have been deleted instantly, seems fair.


So in short... please don't make out I'm 2 faced for posting my own personal opinions on another website. (where I might add, I also make sure everyone knows I'm One.In.A.Million) Especially, since you've recently have censored something that's absolutely rediculous, and we all know what that was.  : ok:


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 23, 2011, 03:19:32 PM
In regards to jarmo...

Please don't go on about me having secret motives, and being 2 faced when we both know what you did recently.  :hihi:

I'll give you a clue, it was instantly censored..... you probably got it by now. So don't try to bring my ethic into question when I have a different opinion about something than you do. Alot of people believe it or not, are scared to disagree with you because of your connections with the band, I'm not.


It was removed because shit was twisted around.

Simple as that.

But of course you wouldn't have a fucking clue. There are plenty of clues to why if you can figure them out.

You're not interested in the truth though.




I don't need your approval to make myself feel content in being "a good fan"...

Man, for somebody who keeps posting about how great he was towards Dj here and how he travels to see GN'R, you're definitely looking for somebody's approval.



The thing with you, is you are good with "words" and twisting things around to fit your agenda. By me commenting in a thread, you've managed to turn this thread totally off subject, and you've started needlessly expressing seriously "offtrack" views about myself. And the funny thing is, is that before I even posted in this thread, another poster already commented "so we are going to get the same 10 interviews everyweek? (from DJ)"........but you chose to target me, no surprise. My avatar probably makes you angry.  :P


I didn't twist anything around.

I'm not the one wishing it was 2002 and wishing Dj was replaced by Robin while acting like I have nothing against Dj.

 :hihi:


But I suppose you can do that, because you run the place right?. Anyone else and it would have been deleted instantly, seems fair.


Maybe it's just time for you to stop your hypocritical act.

It's easy. Stop pretending. Stay away from anything relating to Dj.  :)




So in short... please don't make out I'm 2 faced for posting my own personal opinions on another website. (where I might add, I also make sure everyone knows I'm One.In.A.Million) Especially, since you've recently have censored something that's absolutely rediculous, and we all know what that was.  : ok:

You're so clueless.


I chose to not promote an interview where things were twisted. I'll give you a hint: Did you see a link to that interview on Twitter? No?

I wonder why!



You attack me for censoring shit when you've been "exposed" as a hypocrite who has an agenda with Dj being in the band. Nice defense there.

For somebody who likes to think he's the voice of reason and is interested in facts/the truth, you're pretty uninterested in the truth. Instead you throw around accusations you can't back up.


Unlike you, I have seen the way you act and what you've said. I didn't make anything up. :)


Better luck next time.




People like yourself can object to Dj talking about GN'R in interviews all you want. But he's making sure people hear and see the GN'R name.

Yeah, he talks about different things than Bumblefoot for example. But we all have different points of view. Dj might have a different perspective on things than Bumblefoot, and so on. Doesn't make one guy right and the other one wrong.

Doesn't mean it's "not interesting". Unless you wish Dj wasn't in the band to begin with....




/jarmo


PS. And no, I have no problems with Robin. Just thought I'd repeat that in case you wanna accuse me of that too again.



Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: sofine11 on May 23, 2011, 04:12:04 PM
So...To get this thing somewhat back on topic.  I wonder if DJ was just kidding around when he recently said "a Christmas album" when asked if we can excpect the next GNR album this year during his fan-chats. 

Could he have been maybe hinting at a late-year release?  ???


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: jarmo on May 23, 2011, 04:15:02 PM
Isn't a Christmas album one with Christmas songs?  :hihi:



/jarmo


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: sofine11 on May 23, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Now THAT would be interesting.  :)

And for those who think a release this year isn't realistic, keep in mind Best Buy didn't even list the album & tracklisting until October 17, 2008 and the official press release from management didn't come until October 22nd.  The album was put out a month later on November 23, 2008.

So, if in fact DJ was adding his guitar parts to already completed songs, a release this year might just actually materialize.  : ok:


Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: H76 on May 29, 2011, 03:14:54 PM
It's not "could blow people's minds", it's "Will blow people's minds"  :yes:

Funny to observe the discussion here BTW!!


Didn't Baz use exactly the same words about CD ? Well anyways, it's nice to hear such positive comments from DJ. I hope I would have been a fly on the wall on that room so I could have heard those songs as well.

By the way Christmas song album from GNR  would be nice. Mr Grinch sung by Ron and lot more christmas tunes but Mr Rose. Just for the fun of it. I think Winter Wonderland would fit Axl perfectly.



Title: Re: DJ Ashba: Unrecorded Axl's Songs Could 'Blow People's Minds'
Post by: The Hinge on May 31, 2011, 09:19:38 AM
Far out !! reading this thread is exhausting !!

One can only imagine what it would be like to witness Axl playing piano and singing in a private environment like a hotel room.