Here Today... Gone To Hell!

 :'(

:)

 :-\

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This is not a smiley-only post

mygnr is now gone

sad day indeed, its the biggest gnr forum on the internet, now after 10+  years,
nothing

you can thank god for the dutch!

http://www.dutchdemocracy.nl

Good riddance.

This site is my home base and I have my issues with mygnr. But I still hate to see it go. Just too bad. Just hoping all the mouthy teenagers don't end up here. lol Good luck in all you do Eric.

I don't get it.  I see it out there... 

nevermind...

Sorry for your loss everyone, this is home to me, when I have an issue here, well I just take a break ;D.

And this is posted in the main GN'R section why?

I can see clearly now, the rain is gone,
I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind
It's gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
Sun-Shiny day.  ;D

Maybe the person who posted it here subscribes to the whole "This completely independently run fan forum shutting down for financial reasons means the end of Guns N' Roses" bullshit I've been reading on there. From that point of view, it could almost be considered relevant enough to put in the main section. It's really quite funny that they see themselves as so important to the continued existence of the band... and quite depressing at the same time.

I'm fleeing mygnr like a Libyan diplomat. I will seek refuge in this forum.  ;D

I was never fond of MYGNR, but Eric was always very kind to me, and he did in fact help me out alot during my trip to Toronto, Canada to see GN'R in 2010.  8)

But having said that, alot of bad decisions have been made by them in terms of fueling lies and unwanted speculation. And alot of the active members over there seem to want to cause trouble at the drop of a hat.  :P

I also feel that Eric should have been more involved in moderating the forum, and not leaving it to people who are just as bad as the trolls in some cases.  :yes:

I can't criticise his comments about GN'R because, I think every GN'R fan would like GN'R to be out there more, in whatever capacitiy. It's only natural when you love a band so much, to want to feel their vibe and energy all the time.  ;)

But, I don't think he should be criticising GN'R for sending legal letters to MYGNR. Simply because when you claim to run the biggest GN'R forum on the net, you also have to take responsibility for the site and to make sure that everyone is on the site for the right reasons. MYGNR can only blame themselves in that aspect for providing a platform for such activities, and Eric should have dealt with it himself instead of leaving it to people who clearly enjoy the "forum drama" as much as the negative posters.  ::)



"When your great wall rots, blame yourself"

I agree with a lot of what you said, but to me the thing that Eric was really wrong on in his closing statement was the implication that GN'R SHOULD HAVE financially supported the site.  They had no obligation to whatsoever.  It would've been nice, yes, but it is absolutely not an obligation nor is it standard operating procedure for that to be the case.  And therein lies the difference between an unofficial fan forum and an official forum.

Ali

Just to clarify something for those who are interested.

In my opinion, getting a cease & desist letter isn't necessarily a personal attack on you.

I got the same letter. Didn't bother me.

I had no problem with it, I understood the need for it. Simple as that.

Some of you might keep thinking "why doesn't he allow us to talk about this or that", but at the end of the day, you aren't responsible for the site.

I know some of you don't understand....



I do what I do, others do what they do. I don't hide behind an username attacking the band that I claim to love and support.

I will also not let those same people take over something I worked on for years just to become "cool" with them.



Regarding him shut his forum down, it's unfortunate for those real fans who considered it their online home. But I don't see how any of this is the band's fault... 

As far as I remember, Axl even posted there! So did many other band members.




/jarmo

Well said Jarmo. I have also said that a cease and desist letter is not a personal attack. There are some people who think the C and D letters just came up with the recent MSL crap. Not true. Jarmo posted a similar letter during the Latigo Hammers fiasco.

Ali

not happy news, definitely, even though I think that message board was an inmense crowd of haters and trolls. not only that: I really think its staff encouraged their users to spit all over the band they allegedly love.

I couldn't care less, to be honest. To blame the band about the shut down is ridiculous, absolutely insane. But, believe it or not, 90% of the posts there agree with the initial post from Eric Romano where he basically blames the band.

oh, by the way, there's a new facebook group from MyGNR. Join there if you cant live with this whole thing.

edit: post 4000 here  :peace:

I don't know how any of this works, but he does seem to blame the band.

I've never posted over there, and only check it out so often, but it sure seems to be a free for all now.

MyGNR was the fourm in which I spent most of my time on and I am sad to see it go, but the bottom line is I'm always going to follow my favorite band, and it really doesn't matter where I do it.

Thanks MYGNR for the memories!

Mygnr was the first forum I found back in 2003-2004 (before I even knew what internet forums are, had no idea how it all worked), registered in 2005 when I get a faster internet and I was pretty active back in the days. Still remember times when I took down Almost Famous's record of 300 posts in one day (got 30% warning after that by a certain former admin over there), after that the place got filled with trolls and idiots, at one point it was impossible to actually say something without having to argue a bunch of morons (or adults with mental skills of a 4 year old, whatever) so for the last 3 years I rarely posted over there. Good thing I found a troll free forum where I can continue to support and post/discuss about the band I like.

I never followed MYGNR so I don't really care, but the news is sad because of so many homeless GnR fans out there.  :-\

I just hope these homeless haters & trolls will not come here.

RIP MYGNR, you died by yourself.

What lead the forum turning into a complete joke was Eric putting people in positions of power who love telling people what to do, and crave attention. Some of the moderators are just as bad as the trolls, and they often provoke each other, and it's rediculous.

MYGNR (forum) started becoming a joke around 2008, when posters seemed to be allowed to start sarcastic threads. Aimed at offending the band, or even worse providing a platform for people seeking leaks or other illegal material.  ::)

And I don't know what Eric was thinking allowing this sort of behaviour to carry on and succeed to become normal. I don't know why Eric wasn't more active on the forum, in regards to leading the way and setting an example for the Mods over there who clearly had no idea what moderating meant.  :yes:

I do have accounts under my username at MYGNR and CD.com, but never posted.This was to protect my username in any cases of deliberate duplicates. But I consider HTGTH as my home, because of the in depth intelligent GN'R conversation. And the way that it is run, as apposed to MYGNR or any other forums.  8)

In my experience, the true fans and supporters of GN'R are often too afraid to post on MYGNR, in fear of the resident posters being hateful and offending. That's what went wrong with it, too many posters with disgusting and hateful views about GN'R, we let by the moderating team to just continue with it.

So in the end, Eric needs to blame himself for everything he was complaining about in his cringeworthy statement.  :P

^ No need to thrash the place. Everyone runs their barn the way they want to, so to speak. Who are we to judge the way somebody runs their own forum?

If you don't like it just stay away - simple as that. No need to whine about it on other boards.

Yeah, i hate seeing any GNR forum shut down. That place was certainly one of the more "negative" forums but there was a pretty good mix of each type of fan.

i posted every once in a while but I never felt compelled to be a regular.

I think people need to realize, that there is a reason admins have to enforce certain rules cause it is a privilege to run a fan site, not a right.

Just ask Prince fans about that as he had all of his fan sites shut down once.

I understand it's kinda beating a dead horse at this point. But, by Eric going out on a note of criticism against the band for not embracing his site, he put into question how he ran his site. How he ran his site is likely linked to why it wasn't embraced.

When a fan site is allowing a rumor to propagate that leads to a band member (Ron) coming there to defend himself, something is not right.

Ali

Exactly...

And I want to bring to everyones attention that it never started out like that at all, but it all went downhill a few years ago. The general feeling over at mygnr, was to bash the band at every given opportunity. As I said before, the resident posters, who spent most of their time in the Anything Goes section talking crap, flooded the main GN'R section with useless threads, and dangerous speculation about illegal material or documents.

I only wish Eric continued the upkeep and moderating of the forum, which he obviously loved so much in the early days. But as Ali said, when a bandmember has to spend up to 4+ hours on a message forum defending himself, while getting verbally abused and treated like crap. That's when it's gone too far, and again, I don't know where the hell Eric was that night, but mygnr's moderating team was doing absolutely nothing to control their abusive posters.  :P

Amen. I checked that site everyday, mainly just for new info on the band, but it became obvious there was very little in the way of "moderating" being done. I believe Eric just lost interest in maintaining the site & had other priorities which is all well & good, but I don't think he should gone out the way he did,basically blaming the band for the site's demise.

Didn't know that Guns N' Roses has the obligation to pay for fansites' hosting.

I'm sending a PM to Dexter to pay mines.





Geez...

holy hell they aren't shutting it down afterall

what a bunch of drama queens

Yeah, strange.  It depends on whether or not the sale goes through.  I wonder who the buyer is.  I hope not BBA.

Ali

(http://www.animaki.com/bild_skivor/abba_money7_front.jpg)

This doesn't really make much sense does it.  :-\

So it's gone from a forum with a reputable Admin (dedication issues set aside), with a majority (active) userbase who are hateful towards GN'R post 1998, and only interested in leaks when talking about current GN'R...

And it's going to turn into a board with all of the same negative aspects afformentioned, but this time it's actually going to be ran by one of these trolls.

And also for a forum to work, it needs to be credible and have a stable authority base. So after whats happened to mygnr over the last couple of days, I feel it has lost all credibility and will struggle to regain it. As now, the kids are getting the opportunity to take over the school so to speak, it will be a disaster.  :nervous:

And I also want to point out, that in Eric considering selling the site. He is more or less confirming the prime issue in his closing the site down, is due to funding the site. So one has to wonder, why he felt the need to attack GN'R in all manner of areas, including the cease and decease letters.  :P

So I went to mygnr to read this letter you guys are talking about.. Guess what?
Forum is back up..

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?s=ddc460610da8507b99e865e159dc48af&showtopic=176570

Jarmo - you can fake a shut down and get a bunch of money too!

Do it, do it!


:hihi:

Well it seems like someone who wants to remain secret as helped the site out, by funding the monthly payments.

That's fine, but I still stand by my opinion that the forum has nothing good to offer in regards to supporting the current band. When it was unclear who was going to take over, I was already seeing members ask how much more they could stretch the rules, and basically seeing how much they could expose the situation for their own negative cause.  ::)

And I doubt that the wider forum community will forget Eric's attack on GN'R, and I feel that was not needed at all.  :rant:

But yeah, I still won't be interested in contributing to that forum, as I feel that this site is miles ahead in regards to intregrity, truth and common sense.  : ok:

This was pointed out on MyGNR.

Eric said in his original "closing" statement, that it was about more than just the money, that the lack of support, even animosity, from the GN'R camp played a role.

But, now, an anonymous donor offers to cover the costs, and suddenly Eric wants to continue for the foreseeable future.

Doesn't that imply that it was in fact ALL about the financial concerns if the moment the financial concerns are relieved, Eric decides he wants to continue with the forum?

Ali

As always Ali, you perceptions are correct.

Mygnr(forum) has always been a maverick forum, but it needs to be protected as it is a(n) historical gnr forum.

Eric needs to act in a manner which protects the website and moves it forward. If that means taking a step backwards, then so be it.

I don't think it's just a matter of taking a few steps back, people are truely baffled as to what has happened, simply because of Eric's own original message. He listed and stated several things, in which he attacked GN'R for. And the issue of funding the site, was maybe a 20% issue, and then there was 80% of attacking GN'R, and saying that GN'R should me much more, but they currently aren't.

He really did sound like a troll, who was just announcing he is no longer supporting GN'R, and is deleting his account. (Not much different at all, come to think of it. It's just that, this was the damn Admin. :hihi:)

And now because someone offers to pay the site costs, all is forgotten and nothing is mentioned of it ever again.

Not as simple as that, and while I'm at it, why was the mygnr mods and users all for UKsubs taking over. Wasn't that the guy who never posted for like 2 years and deleted his own account, because of the same negative reasons Eric's whole "resignation letter" was talking about.  :hihi:

So yeah, what a joke.  :rant:

Im all for forums having freedom of speech and the right to debate *intelligently* different aspects of band stuff.

For instance, i think some fans bitching about GNR late start times is valid. So as long as it isn't bashing, that topic can be intelligently debated which it has been here.

what shouldn't be allowed is what goes on there with the constant trolling,just made up malicious rumors etc for the sole purpose of hating on the band and trying to cause problems.

Worst thing Axl ever did was confront fans/Madison on there

cause all that did in the end, was make hundreds of trolls make it their life's mission to get a response from Axl. They want to be bashed,cursed,ranted on by Axl so it didn't solve the problem, it made it worse. its sick and twisted but for some wretched humans,that would be the highlight of their lives to have Axl come at them like he did Madison.

I don't have an account there, but I do check out the message board from time to time.  When I tried just now, it said I have to register to view the board.

What's up with that? ???

Why does that website still look like 1996? I mean it's cool in someway, like a screenshot of it on the website's history page. But it's 2012 now :p

We are changing servers, it is temporary adjustment for technical reasons.  Will be back up shortly

Participating in the Internet blackout?

Funny timing I suppose right?  Nothing to do with it but interesting day to move servers :)

I totally get what your saying here, alot of that website looks like it hasn't been updated since 96-7. The only thing that seems to change over there is the forums content, even the forum look and layout seems dated to me.

Thank god we have HTGTH.  :)

You still aren't getting +1 - nice try : ok:

Cotis, I know you are probably half having a laugh with that comment, but that really is my true thoughts. I've never been a big follower of that site anyway, I even prefer CD.com over that site. But HTGTH is definitely the best GN'R forum out there, and I think it shows by everyone looking at this site first for clarification on news, etc.

I think even people on other forums, still hold this site as the premier site for news, or information in general. Then they go back to their respective forums, to bitch or moan about what they have found out here. Because let's face it, that's all they ever seem to do over there is whine on about how "hard done by" they are.

(this is my 2nd try, how did I do)  ;D :hihi:

Are you still working on it?  When I try now, I can get to the main message board page, but I get the following messages...

Protected Forum
You do not have permission to view this forum
You are not signed in

Maybe it's just me. :hihi:

@Gunsguy - OK, I'm still getting the "Protected Forum" thing when I try the message board.

Do you have to register now to view the forum?

What happen to MyGNR? It's shows 'Account Suspended'...

yeah I was wondering if I was banned for some weird reason or something  :P

Down again

and pretty much 12 months to the day that it nearly went down for good...    :o

anyone know about why mygnr "account is suspended"?

i usually go there for my daily gnr fix but when i try it says "account suspended" ?? is the site still there ?

please dont delete this thread as i am just asking a question !

Maybe somebody forgot to pay the bill?

i was also trying to figure wht happened to it :/

Just noticed that too. Maybe someone did not pay the bills over there?

This happened a couple of weeks ago as well. It'll probably be back up soon

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/h3ltbc

This is all another scheme so Eric can make money off everyone again. Pathetic.

That's what I think too. What happened to this anonymous person who was supposedly funding the site for the last year? I've thought for awhile now that something is kinda shady about Eric......

And all this crap about the forum benefitting the band and him getting stuck with the losses is crap. Nobody forced him to start MyGnR.

Yeah, seriously. Why does he always blame the band? What do they owe him?

One corrupt forum down...many to go.

I don't even see how that forum benefits the band. A lot of users are just trashing GN'R on an hour basis.

Exactly. It got really bad when Axl declined the HOF induction, the board was flooded with people hating on him and the current line up. I stopped posting there when that happened. I don't mind people being critical of Axl and the current line up but there's a difference between being  critical and just plain hateful.

yeah they don't get being rightfully critical and just plain nasty, i.e. talking about his weight, looks, bringing up old rumors we don't even know that is true or not, just something to have a go/dig at Axl for,  and the fact that he doesn't look the same as he did 20 years ago or the simple fact that he doesn't always do whatever we want him to do shouldn't make you more or less of fan of his or the band.   This is probably why if Axl or whomever in the band/mgmt was footing the bill, is NO longer footing it, and the thing is they should have never been doing so in the first place, Eric showed his true colors as some dude trying to play the "look at everything I've done for you all (the band) and I even do it for FOR FREE"  oh really? He really let that go to his head, and had the audacity to think that letting MSL run wild hulkamania style with his mess was somehow going to help the already apparently strained relationship beteween him and the band/mgmt was something truly ignant. (ignorant slang term lol) ::)

Of course so many "fans" showed their true colors with the HOF  situation, as I said again, mad cuase Axl didnt' fulfill their fantasies of a forced reunion that would have had no business even taking place there in the first place., but of course they'll be around whenever Axl gives them a wiff or comes out with a tour or new tune (for ex.  how BBA the troll acted brand new around Axl when he was given backstage passes compared to what he says on the boards about him)

NEWSFLASH: You aren't the only  one who does stuff for free.  And so what, if they like or prefer Jarmo to other forum owners/mods, well there's nothing that no one can do about it.
 Also doesn't mean they he only appreciates Jarmo, for ex. going to other boards to chat with other  members including his lol!

I saw this post today by Gunsguy that had me in a giggle fit.

(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z323/broskirose/doubleg.png)

that place is a disaster nowdays. Horrible.

And I thought moderating GNRevolution was sometimes trying! lol

There is only one place for a gnr-fan: HTGTH   :smoking:

people still visit that place? hmm.

it's way more fun over there than here nowadays. although it's really just a way of wasting time than it is to actually have fun, the way forums used to be fun.

^^ How is it fun?

You got people creating threads like "what do you think about Fernando's food preferences" and shit, and then you have a great new section for lunatics called 'Attitude' where you have freaks saying things in the vein of "Axl should have been fired after AFD and that the band would still have been successful".

This place right here is the only true GN'R forum & news site for people living in 2012 and wanting to be positive.

Well, there's at least some activity in their off topic and music boards. when i got back here i actually tried to get some action going but it was without any success.

for me it's hard to be personally excited about GN'R whitout new music or something else that affects me, that is shows, interviews (not talking about interviews with the Deej when he's for the 100th time is saying they'll work on new music) etc. so I'm not spending so much time in the GNR sections.

I'm not so much of a poster anymore, more a lurking and reading kinda guy.

really? I've never read any of those threads or visited those sections you're talking about. they might be there but I know a way of staying out of them, simply not clicking on the bullshit. :)


sure you can have that opinion, all I did was replying to my friend cotis. he was questioning if people still went to MYGNR. I think they got even more positive posters than this place, sure there's the bashers as well but those guys can be pretty funny in the off topic sections. there's also those posters in between the 2 extremes.

The forum has gotten a lot better since UK Subs and Highvoltage took over.
But of course there's still idiots on there trying to ruin it for everyone else with their hate and negativity, fortunately they can now bitch in a section created especially for them called "Attitude". That way those of us who are positive and wanna discuss the current band can do so without having to look at their bitching :)

I disagree.  UK Subs and HV are very immature and have caused Team Brazil a lot of grief.  This isn't the same MYGNR from 5 years ago.  That place is toxic.  If I ever want to be insulted because I love the new band, that's where I will go. 

How am I "very immature" please explain? :)

First of all, you allowed people to get bullied there for over a year.  You kept on a very similar staff of familar MyGNR mods like HV, Zint, and Powerage?    What was the point of buying the site if you were gonna use a similar recipe to Romano?   Instead of a fresh start, you brought back the same mods that were ruining the site in the first place.   I can't tell you how many times I saw vile insults go for 5 or 6 pages after promises their would be changes.  Wishing people death, among other really personal insults it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put an end to it.   How you didn't fire one mod after all that is beyond me.  If someone cant do a job right after a year you fire them.  I say immature because HV seems to be someone with an expensive toy who doesn't know how to work it.  This site fits me so much better.  The posters respect each other and my son can read concert reviews without the toxicity and the insults towards GNR management.  If I were you UK Subs, I would revamp the entire mod team and do a relaunch.  HV does a great job with the technical stuff. But he just isn't cut out to be admin.  When the mods can't control their forum you have to look at the owner of the site to lay the blame. 

I appreciate your answer. Still not sure why I'm labelled "immature" but still.
The site has dramatically changed since I bought it from Eric, although I admit I made some mistakes in my first 6/9 months, namely a lack of directive -- HV is a first class admin and someone I consider a friend so I would not even consider the thought of changing him. The mods generally do a very good job also.

Look it gives members a different perspective than htgth, I guess the numbers do the talking  :peace:

The numbers?   You paid for the numbers.   You didn't do anything but pay for the site.  : ok:   Paid for a site that insults a GNR lead guitarist when he visits.  Doesn't make a ton of sense.  I am glad you are friends with HV.  Please allow him to continue to be admin too.  I'd rather stay here where real fans congregate. 

Erm nope. It's just had it's most successful 12 months since it's opening in 2001. Maybe that's just a coincidence rather than anything I did hey!?  : ok:
Yeah, BBF's visit wasn't our main highlight I'll give you that one. IM glad you like it here -- that's what makes life so good don't you think? There's a forum for everyone. Plenty of "real" fans at mygnr too my friend trust me.

What happened with BBF over there? Did he cop a lot of abuse & if so why? He's a nice guy with a great sense of humour & I don't get how he can be insulted, then again lots do that don't deserve it just because they don't agree with others.

The short version is BBF tweeted in an aggresive manner to a member of our forum (he was a fan and was asking for updates or something I cant even remember), anyway BBF took offense and when that member posted the chat on the forum BBF came to explain that he was fooling around. I was out of town and without question, we managed it really poorly -- I take responsibility in that at the time (I think it was only months since the takeover) I hadn't directed the team as well as I could and should have done.  There are those who think BBF came onto the forum in a 'damage limatation' mode but personally I dont agree -- Regardless, the way he was spoken to by a couple of members was not a good moment for our forum, I totally accept that.

Since then, BBF has had a couple of convo's with HV and he's been totally cool with us :)

Well, I did make that post over a year ago. I haven't posted on MYGNR in over a year either. I got fed up with the constant bashing of the current line up of GN'R and all the personal attacks I got my way for being a female who supports the current line up. I have no plans to ever return to that forum again.

Noone needs to explain what you're all about subsy. Complete and utter troll at it's finest. You have allowed racism, biggotry and all the nasty crap on that toilet of aplace you call a gnr forum. You are the toilet of guns n roses fan forums. Please leave here noone wants you here, you're an idiot along with Zint the bint and Low wattage, however the other mods are pretty cool.

mygnrforum got hacked? :D

between them becoming a Peal jam board and the mysterious silence over here today....its certainly an odd day in GNR land! haha

It was a great april fools prank! Really well put together.

There's a definite goofball factor over there.  No question.

But...I don't know.  The place is fun.  Really, I laugh there more than anything else.  Now, if you are a person that is going going to flip the fuck out when anyone makes a joke, yeah, you aren't going to have a good time. 

But funny is funny, I say.  Some of it's gallows humor, sure.  Or making light of certain things that seem to go on with this band.  But at the end of the day, most of them are fans.  Sometimes, fans get frustrated.  It happens.

The diehard reunionists, yeah, they can't be helped.  I just skip over their stuff.

But, ultimately, we're talking about a rock band here, folks.  We're not solving the world's problems.  I think that gets lost in translation sometimes.

Enough of seeing this faker here