Here Today... Gone To Hell!

The tour is scheduled to hit the following cities:

Oct 28 Orlando, FL @ Amway Center Arena
Oct 29 Miami, FL @ American Airlines Arena
Oct 31 Greenville, SC @ Bi-Lo Center Arena
Nov 2 Atlanta, GA @ Phillips Arena
Houston, TX
Nov 5 Dallas, TX @ Gexa Energy Pavillion
Omaha, NE
Tulsa, OK
Nov 12 Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center Arena
Nov 13 Minneapolis, MN @ Target Center Arena
Chicago, IL @ All State Arena
East Rutherford, NJ
Hartford, CT
Wilkes-Barre, PA
Worcester, MA
Camden, NJ
Detroit, MI
Cincinnati, OH
Nashville, TN
Indianapolis, IN
Denver, CO

Rumor at this point I would say

I'd say BS at this point given the original source is from a site that has been linked to so much misinformation thus far... It will be only official on here if a htgth mod posts the news first I'd say  : ok:

http://chinese-democracy.blogspot.com/search?q=Asian+tour+2009&updated-max=2009-08-19T08%3A25%3A00-04%3A00&max-results=20

In the above case they missed

Hit two months in advance

I'd be very surprised if they played Philly.

me too...weren't there lawsuits from before? didn't think they were resolved yet

um.. no.  These dates are made up.  A simple check on the places this claims they are playing shows that some places already have events posted

No man! no

As long it's not officially confirmed I take it as a rumor and move on :-)

well I hope it is real, considering that I have off that exact week they are in my area and I will be going to 6 of those shows....if it is real.

Yeah I checked all the dates and there were 2 discrepencies.

PBR: Professional Bull Riders
(1984) St Pete Times Forum
Tampa, FL Sun, 04/10/11
01:00 PM

Maybe it'll be a double bill and the PBR will be the opener for Guns?

Also the Mohegan Sun (4/22) date may have some conflicts since Elton John is scheduled to play the same night.  That'd be a nice double bill though.  Elton and Axl meet again.

only 2 of the shows out of 30?  Either there is some shred of truth to this rumor or somebody is really good at routing a fake tour in arenas that happen to be empty..i would hope someone doesn't have that much free time, but it wouldnt shock me these days...

Yeah, that's all I came up with, which by the percentages is pretty good.  But if the list were legit, don't you think there'd be no discrepencies?  Unless the list is old and dates need to be changed or scrapped altogether.  Or someone MADE UP the list before the PBR event and Elton John concerts were booked.

Just did the same thing, son of a bitch. :hihi:

But there are TWO Mohegan Sun Arenas - the one you found conflicting was Mohegan Sun Arena @ Casey Plaza, which is in Wilkes-Barre, PA. The one GNR is supposed to play at is Mohegan Sun Arena in Uncasville, CT. Two different arenas, very similar names! : ok:

I'll be happy if this is put into place... :)

also, is it possible to have a bull-riding event at 1pm and still have time to set up for a concert that evening? i know GnR's stage would be on the high-end of the spectrum regarding time to set up their stage, but i have a feeling it would be possible.

IF that would be the case, than have we confirmed there are no conflicts with these dates???

the one thing that jumped out at me was alot of dates in venues where there could be hockey playoffs - MSG, philly, newark, boston, detroit. Not sure how venues typically handle scheduling for that. Also, the philly date is on Easter which is a big day for hockey playoffs.

one other thing that seems strange is philly is the third night of 3 consecutive dates. that's a brutal schedule.

Never been to one, but I'd assume a professional bull-riding competition takes about 3 hours (not including delays - and I could be totally wrong). So you figure they're done and out of there at 5PM at the latest. You then have to get out all the fencing and dirt - then clean the place, setup for GNR, etc.

I don't think it's doable, maybe the next night or night previous?

I think it is just more likely those 2 dates are wrong..Bands release touring schedules and drop a few shows or change locations all the time, 2 changes wouldnt be a lot at all.

In normal cases, GN'R's crew start working at the venue in the morning.

In some rare cases equipment trucks have arrived later than planned and things were a little delayed. But not because of bull riding competitions held on the same day.


I personally don't think this is a list of actual tour dates. April is a little over a month away and there's no source for the information.




/jarmo

Example - Avenged Sevenfold announced a date at Prudential Center in Newark, NJ about a week ago. Guess a conflict came up and now the show will be in Albany, NY on that same day.


Exactly, usually it's a lengthy process - not something that can be whipped together in an hour or two...

Regardless, I hope there's some truth to this (even the slightest bit) so that something gets rolling here.

also a lot of dates are on during the week & few on weekends which is the way they usually schedule also but 99% sure somebody made these up- too bad cause RBC in Raleigh is 5 min from my house :crying:

It's not like these arenas have events every night, especially once basketball ends. It wouldn't be hard for someone to make up a fake tour without hitting many event conflicts.

I can say only this ''I really hope gnr will announce this dates''...On the other hand, april is too close, so if it true confirmation will be in next days

true, but the actual routing of it,  having all those arenas being empty where it makes sense  to point of travelling, its quite impressive, which means someone has too much free time.

Seems fake as hell to me, there are a few very questionable locations on that list. Also I can't see GN'R sticking 1 Canadian date in on this tour, especially when they toured there in 2010.

Just my opinion, but it looks like the person who organised this list, left some schoolboy errors in the detail.  :yes:

Nothing's real until it happens....

The one Toronto date actually makes more sense than you would think, Toronto is practically in the United States, and is a popular destination for bands who are on an American tour...but as we all know nothing is official until its official, so we will see.  There also seems to be far too many NY area dates on there. 

Yeah, the headline says rumour:  Rumour: GN'R - Chinese Democracy 2011 North American Tour Dates

But hopefully it looks something like this. :)

The fact the thread lives is a decent sign.

I just think they gotta announce it soon to get things rolling.

what people easily forget is, GNR did fantastic in 2002 and 2006 in Big Markets. Maybe not so much in the smaller markets but the big markets they still dominated.

so do a big market tour.

Personally I think those dates are either (a) bullshit, or (b) an earlier plan.

I'm hopeful something similar will happen though, Axl knows the band has momentum on its side at the moment.

Sorry, but that doesn't really mean anything in this case.





/jarmo

haha...right...as boss said........but if it's true, i except free belgrade-new york plane card and some free tickets for shows

They've got too much free time or they just copied another big band's recent tour route. Actually they got too much free time in that case too.

haha I know, but for all the arenas except for 2 to be available, its slightly impressive..no matter how much of a loser someone who would make that up is...

Why not??  That incident was so damn long ago.  It's time to move on and gain Philly's love again.

philly that soon ?
im a brokeass i need time ta save for this.hope it's a rumor but can get cash really fast if needed.and that would be so fuckin kool if it's true.please o please be true.

Only 1 Month... Complicated

 :-X

it just seems too soon-may have been a plan at one point.

I can't believe any lawsuits from Philly are still pending from 2002 or 2003-it would not take 8 years to settle.

was thinking the exact same thing!!! who knows !!!  :no:

There are two Canadian dates in that list, and it makes sense - GN'R always sells a ton of tickets in Toronto, it's a big market, and Vancouver, well they haven't been since 2002 you know... and that didn't exactly happen.

Not saying this list is legit, could have been a tentative plan. I'd definitely be going to the Toronto show. But the lead in time for sales is tight, I'd rather they push it back a month.

The Uncasville date is bogus, at least according to the folk who run that arena. 

www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_tours/guns_n_roses_tour_dates_leaked.html

(I think I fixed the link now)

I wish this was true, but how can you have a show in 5 weeks that is not officially announced?

What's the point posting,
If you look at who they mention as there source I know enough already...
On top of that the so called source post without a source as well... and so on and on ...

This can't be true, ticket sales need to start a lot earlier. Hoping hard something to be real sadly doesn't make it so :'(

I'm guessing this was a tentative list... hopefully we'll see legit dates roll out in the near future. This summer is looking weak on shows right now, I definitely have the cash (and a few interested people) if they swing by this way again.

i hope they don't forget the canceled nashville show or at least play st. louis

... wait scratch st. louis  :rofl:

Prolly not impossible but that would be a huge stretch, I think.  They'd only have a couple hours to tear down everything from the PBR event and get it out of there before setting up for the opening act . . .  Besides, this popped up a couple weeks ago, what purpose would be served by having tour dates nailed down and sitting on that info until the last minute rather than announcing it and allowing people to buy tickets?

That's funny.  I live near 2 of those venues and they are tiny.  I would think that instead of playing Merriwether Post Pavilion that they would go less than an hour away and play RFK again or a larger DC  or Maryland venue. 

Cineater posted on MyGNR:

So any of you guys in the states who have Pointfest, you getting GNR played on the sponsoring station? They are doing it pretty regular here, right before they hype up the festival. They never play GNR, not even on shuffle. And festival is at the same place where the St. Louis riot was. We just had the pigeon incidence with Kings of Leon last year--lol Yeah Axl ain't going to stand for that shit either. I'd never believe it was possible but the line up gets announced on the 25th.

Anyone in the area notice this?

Gig is in May I believe, they've had some big names in the past...

Hey wait!  Doesn't mean I know shit.  I'm just keeping an eye out, not betting money.  :D  In my best Nixon voice, let me make myself perfectly clear.

Merriweather Post is plenty big- I saw Priest & 1 of Dio's last performances there last year  with Heaven & Hell before he died- holds like 15,000-20,000- normal size for a GnR show

Lol See you have to watch what you say. Now you started another rumor. Love ya Cin.

Guys she is just speculating.

lol I didn't mean to say you knew shit, but it is an interesting theory, and radio stations around here did just that when GN'R came to town in the past. Also, Disturbed was rumoured to be playing but looks like that isn't happening so they need someone...

Yeah you kind of freaked me out throwing my name out there.  Let me tell you I smoke too much to out run Axl and his lawyer scares the shit out of me.  Plus some of the fans are like pits bulls!  You never want them on your tail.  I'm just hanging out.

I could see something happening this summer. No way next month.

Conclusion:

NO TOUR IN APRIL

 :'(

I think by may we will have news.

 Let them rest a bit, since they gave blood in 2010 tuor

 Axl sang very expensive! and he must be working for a new tour happen! ..

I live in St. Louis, I listen to the point regularly, and have never heard GnR before they talk about pointfest.  In fact, it hasn't been officially announced.  They just randomly talk about it because it happens every year.

Jim Koplik elaborates on ?rumblings about a GN?R tour? 

Jim Koplik, American concert promoter, reported to WCCC there were ?rumblings about a GN?R tour?.

Koplik was pressed again on the matter during ?6 Concert Questions with Koplik?:


The interviewer then concluded by suggesting GN?R was a ?possibility? to which Koplink responded ?Yep?.

The GN?R aspect of the podcast can be caught at about 10:40: http://nyc03.egihosting.com:8002/wccc/6_Concert_Questions_with_Karolyi_and_Koplik_for_Friday_June_24_2011.mp3

I know I'm not in the business but I'd wait and see how the summer concerts sell.  The US economy isn't getting any better.  I'm going to have to pass if they tour this year.

so far summer concerts are selling great...i got vip general admission to  Metallica's Big 4 show at Yankee stadium, you had to kill someone to get them they sold so fast..and they were 270 a pop...Rockstar Uproar is also doing very well as well as other festivals...  Even a bad economy wont stop most people from seeing GNR for the first time in 5 years i dont think.

There is an alternative.  Ticket prices can and actually have been adjusted from what I can see, to entice people to come out to shows.

Ali

Yeah, if you listen to the whole segment with Jim Koplik, he speaks very positively about the sales of most of the summer shows going on now.  So while the economy does still suck, they're at least putting a positive spin on things.

I got quite a different impression.


I listened to it and heard Koplik say that there were "tickets available" and "all sections available" and "most sections still available" for all of these shows.

A lot of those instances though, he would say they were selling well or will eventually sell out.  So like I said, he could've just been putting a positive spin on things.

I just hope they do tour the states this year!!! Hell I would love for them to do a August/ Sept warm up gigs across America!
2009-2010 tour was Sick  :smoking: everyone that got to see that tour from: Asia,Canada,Europe South/Central America, was very lucky!!

I've been "Jonesing" for Some Live GnFnRs!!

Since the 06 tour i have been telling alot of friends and showed alot of youtube vids to as well from the last tour that are dying to see Axl live again !!
Cant wait to see the looks on there faces right before Guns melts them off !! :D   so come on Guns Get your ass to the Midwest !lol
   :peace:

I hope for a US tour too, but I wouldn't think it would be before RIR.  Maybe they do a small warmup show or so, but not a full tour.  I would hope (suspect) a US tour would follow the dates in Latin America.  At least that seems to be somewhat of the plan.  Hopefully it works out that way.

not that it means anything, but the 02 and 06 tours of the U.S were both in the Oct-Dec range...so hopefully this one follows suit.  Then again, they can play whenever and Ill be there.

Yeah, another thought, and obviously this is pure speculation.  I would think that with Rock in Rio being as big a deal as it is, that they'd want to focus solely on that for now.  IF they announced plans for a US tour before then, that might take away from the excitement or importance of that gig.  Of course, I guess you could view it as just adding to it as well.  But I would think any additional plans would be made, or at least announced afterwards.  It seems to me this band usually takes things one step at a time, as plans often change.  So it might be best to get through these shows in early October, and then go from there.  I guess it COULD be possible for them to embark on a US tour starting in November, I just view it as wishful thinking at this point.

But don't forget: After the South American dates Fortus is on tour with Thin Lizzy. This tour ends on november 22. Tour dates with GN'R are pretty unlikely for this time.

Which is assuming that Fortus is definitely doing the Thin Lizzy tour.  We don't know exactly what would happen if a conflict were to occur.

Ali

Fall US tour?

I pursued Jim in relation to this (specifically about the possibility of a tour, Azoff and whether such a tour would be continuity to the prior World Tour or in support of another concept entirely). Koplik gave the following response:

Wow, that would be great! Foxwoods is a great venue, not a bad seat in the house.

I would not expect a Foxwoods gig. Mohegan Sun makes more sense than Foxwoods. The venue is better suited to have a band like Guns N' Roses. Just keep that in mind.

Yeah, I would expect Mohegan too.
I'd be happy with either, but would prefer Foxwoods.
Relatively big acts like Jeff Beck and AIC have played there, but bigger bands like STP , Soundgarden, Alice Cooper have played Mohegan when in town.

Wait, so a promoter who works with putting concerts together is mentioning two possible venues where he thinks GN'R might play, and you guys are suggesting a third?

So are you saying what he says is not reliable? I mean, since he doesn't seem to be able to get the venue right....




/jarmo

All I'm saying is looking at capacity and comp'd tickets ratio, Mohegan Sun makes more sense. 12,000 seats versus 4,000 seats and both casinos will deliver comp'd tickets like crazy. The good seats too.

I can speak to this, a bit:

Koplick has often done just that....mistakenly referred to Mohegan Sun as Foxwoods.  Not EVERY time, but often enough to be remarkable.  They're, literally, about 10-15 min apart, they're both casino venues, and they're both pretty good sized....and for the longest time, Mohegan didn't really have an arena.  Professional hazzard, maybe?  I don't know.  But he's done it at least a half dozen times on WCCC, and then had to correct himself.  Just like he still calls the Comcast "The Dodge" or "The Meadows" every so often.

I don't KNOW that's what happened this time....but it's possible, at least.

Fox Theater (at Foxwoods) is set up more like a theater, as you would think by the name....think Hammerstein Ballroom without the GA Floor (more orchestra type seating, instead).  It's a GREAT theater..but not a great venue for concerts. Capacity is about 4k.   MGM Theater at Foxwoods is similar in setup (I can' comment on how nice it is...I haven't been there yet) but much newer (and in the MGM complex). Capacity is also about 4k.  Both seem on the small side, and neither has hosted much in the way of "big name" shows in recent years.

Mohegan is an actual Arena...they host the CT Sun WNBA team...and it's a more traditional Arena setup.  They get bigger acts, frequently (Bon Jovi, the Motley/Poison tour, Def Leppard and a LOT more).  Capacity is AROUND 10k with end stage/floor seating set up.

Indoor Comcast (aka The Meadows, aka The Dodge) is an indoor/outdoor venue that can be closed up in the Winter.  It seats about 7500 indoors.

I see. Thanks for the clarification.

 :)



/jarmo

Interesting.  May I point out the bolded/italicized part.  Coincidence these comments are made so soon after the lawsuit settlement?  I personally doubt it.

Ali

Also, I think Koplik is just giving his opinion on what would be the best venue for the band to play. Originally when he was asked that question, he answered that Mohegan Sun would bethe perfect venue for them. But then the DJ brought up the Comcast Ampitheater and that reminded him of the indoor Comcast, which he then said would be even better. So it's possible that after given more time to think about it. He could've changed his mind again from Mohegan to Foxwwods, which apparently is smaller.

Posted this in the facebook/twitter thread as well, but thought it might deserve an own thread.



From Eddie Trunk's twitter:

Hearing talk of possible Guns N Roses US dates in the midwest in November, just a handful of possible dates. More news when I get it.



We also had the mention of a show in Connecticut by some promoter a week ago or so. Looks like there's something stirring in the water right now.

would be great to hear something early enough so anyone wanting to organise themselves for going would have plenty of time : ok:

AWESOME!!!!

i have alot of respect for eddie trunk and i don't think he would post just some crazy random rumor. i'm hoping there's some substance to this, shows are in the process of being booked, and an announcement will be made soon. keeping my fingers crossed.  : ok:

ya we all herd it in the 06 Axl, Eddie, Baz interview, Eddie felt really bad stirring the pot playing the IRS leak first and promised to never really promote that rumors/leaks again to Axl !

I think this sounds fantastic !! im revved up  8)

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I called into Eddie's Sirius/XM show tonight to ask about this subject.  Unfortunately he wasn't taking calls, so instead I requested "There Was A Time".  I taped the show, not sure if it was played or not.  Listening to the playback now.

I got a tweet back from Eddie Trunk( i`d replied to his tweet about the tour rumour and asked how come he didn't follow Axl or Guns n roses ) he replied asking if they were legit ??? i`m assuming he means the twitter accounts and not the rumour of a tour especially as he`s the one who started the rumour in the first place :confused:

Both Axl's and the GN'R Twitter account are verified by Twitter.

How can people think they're fakes?



/jarmo

exactly i have sent him a message back, seems strange he would follow ex g`n` r members and not the band or him

A new album & U.S. tour in November would be absolutely amazing.

Maybe... Album 2012

The topic is about a possible US tour. Stick to that subject.

Thanks.



/jarmo

I hope its somewhere in the East or South. I am already saving just in case.

I would love an Atlantic City Show. they should do back to back nights !!! Has GnR ever done AC before?

How great would that be?  :beer:

I'm assuming he didn't investigate the accounts, he was just asking if they were legit since there are a lot of fakes on the social media sites.  It's not like Axl tweets very often anyway, so I don't find it too shocking that a) Eddie Trunk doesn't follow him or b) Eddie Trunk wasn't sure if Axl really was even on twitter.  And I also haven't looked at who else he follows, but maybe he follows individuals rather than "bands".  Thus him following ex GNR members, Bumblefoot, etc.

Anyway, I am getting more and more optimistic about a possible US tour.  I thought "fall" seemed too soon and unlikely a few weeks back, but the rumors keep coming back into play.  We'll see.  While I'd hate to see the summer fly by, it appears that the fall may be an exciting time for this band.  At the very least we have RIR and the South American shows to look forward to.

There will be a US tour.Theres not point of not touring US,so the question is when.I would love a big tour like  the 90s...

AC would be killer! would love to see them at the borgata.

no idea if they ever played there before - i don't recall any shows but not sure i would remember that far back. Axl and Izzy showed up on stage with the Stones to sing "salt of the earth" (anyone that has not seen that on youtube, i HIGHLY recommend checking it out - classic stuff). my older brother was there and woke me up when he got home to tell me. i didn't believe him at first, and this was way before the internet.

Eddie is now following Axl but not G`N`R which is a shame `cos the fun happens on the guns twitter  ;)

Yeah, I get that people are suspicious and all that.

But just one click on the username reveals that the account is verified.

So it's pretty simple to find out if there's something fishy with said account.


He's not the only one who doesn't realize that it is actually Axl's official Twitter account.



/jarmo

Could this still happen?

Melodicrock reports a trusted source inside the VH camp has advised that tour plans are being locked in for a sizeable world tour starting with the above Australia shows in September before re-launching in the US in November.

Word is the VH 2011/2012 tour will commence in November and the source tells Melodicrock that it?s likely the band will stay on the road thru the next Northern summer (mid-2012), with the tour taking in Asia, South America and Europe (watch for the band to possibly headline some festivals in Europe 2012).

http://www.melodicrock.com/

Mmmmm.... beatiful dream, Thnks.

Considering who manages them, I wouldn't bet any money on it.




/jarmo

I agree, just a thought, it would be cool.

But with the lawsuit settled, and there's always this. :)

@irvingazoff

axl? i like him a lot. what a genius too

5 Aug via web

Hell it could have been part of the settlement, they did agree that Guns would do so many shows after all.

Who manages them?

Irving Azoff... The same guy who managed GNR, who just ended a lawsuit w/ Axl

I would rather see them headline on their own with a full set, and I'm looking forward to seeing Van Halen, actually.

yeah id rather get a full GNR set.  I am looking forward to seeing Van Halen as well but Ill gladly pay to see each of them on their own.

We've got to realize that in big business (which a rock tour like this would be), it's not uncommon for people to sue each other and then work together again.  Not usually Axl's way, but you never know.

$$$$$ talks, amigos!!  Just because one deal went sour doesn't mean there isn't still a LOT of money to be made for everyone.

Yeah, but the Axl-Azoff thing seemed to get a little personal. It was obvious that Azoff was trying to take some cheap shots by referring to him by his birth name. I don't see GNR touring with VH which is probably a good thing.

I agree with ya Luns.  It would be very surprising because of that stuff.  The older I get it seems like the less surprised I get when I see some of these business deals go down.

I've never been that big a VH fan so I don't really care if they tour together or not.  Just want to see some US dates finally.  They could tour with Mariah Carey and Insane Clown Posse and I would buy a ticket.

Haha...maybe GNR could open for ICP and Mariah Carey so then I would know exactly when to leave.


On another note....here's a little peek at their backstage setup from the tour last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvbQosspP7M&feature=player_embedded

Well I can tell you one thing, if they do headline with VH I will be showing up late. I have no desire too see them. None at al.

Haha, me either. Everytime I hear "Jump" I cringe. Good thing we saw them at Sturgis last year!

Or "CKY" and "MIxmaster Mike" or the Suicide Girls  :P

Following Trunk?s tweet I contacted Jim Koplik in relation to possible updates regarding this prospect:


Again Koplik reiterated his expectation of seeing GN?R in the US during fall.

According to the calendar fall is September 21^st to December 21^st therefore Koplik?s fall against Trunk?s November seems fairly compatible. :)

Yeah I still can't believe I got too see them there!! Got too see them in my fav. place on the whole planet! The Black Hills!

here is the latest rumor out today

...... dont kill the messenger  :P

"Live Nation confirms that mega rock band Guns N Roses are scheduled to play their first US shows in over 5 years. An employee of Live Nation, who wishes to remain anonymous, has confirmed that the following US shows will take place before years's end:"
Wed, Dec 7, Allstate Arena, Rosemont, Il

Fri, Dec 9, Madison Square Garden, NY, NY

Wed, Dec 14, Gexa Energy Pavillion, Dallas, Tx

Fri, Dec 16, Ruth Eckerd Hall, Clearwater, Fl

dont get my hopes up! ill be driving from Miami to Clearwater

haha ya i hear ya , i live in Illinois about 4 hrs away from Chicago, and the only place i'v seen GnR is Rosemont in 02 and 06 so im giddy right now :)

Great! Hopefully the rumors are true! US deserve a tour already :)

Can you please provide a source for the origin of this rumor?

Ali

In two days from IL to NY and then in two days from TX to FL?

Really?


Please provide a source....




/jarmo

it was a form  member in Chinesedemocracy.com forum  (http://www.chinesedemocracy.com/forum/index.php/topic,48063.0.html)

He claims to know some one from livenation ,but another member has since called him out on some other false claims that he has posted about
about Summer/fall tour info that involved a Skidrow reunion that would open for Guns!
so im not holding my breath anymore from what iv read !!......Sorry guys didn't mean to cry wolf i read the post and got very excited  :nervous:

my apologies

ah oh well. I didn't get my hopes even though I wanted it to be true

If it's true, I will absolutely be driving to that Chicago show!

Yeah, I didn't even notice that.  But, honestly, that routing is absolutely impossible.  Second, that guy is not in the least bit reliable.

Ali

Yeah, that poster has a track record for posting similar "in the know" nonsense.  I'd like to see a fall/winter U.S. tour, but these dates don't look right at all...

Not even sure that GNR would be able to play t the Garden, as they are renovating it.

If I'm not mistaken - there are concerts and events scheduled there as early as October/November so I assume it will be done before then?

WWE Survivor Series is taking place at MSG in November

The Gexa Energy Pavillion in Dallas TX holds about 15,000 max, so that is a reasonable number for GNR, but it is an outdoor venue that is usually used spring-fall. That is not to say it is impossible to use in December, but I would think highly unlikely. There are so many other indoor venues in Dallas and the surrounding areas that have an equal number if not more seats, so if the rumor is true I find it highly curious. Gexa does not have any info on their site for December; the shows listed only go to the end of Sept. FYI.

this should put an end to this rumor...
the venue in Clearwater, Fl has an event already listed for that date

http://www.rutheckerdhall.com/events/?d=2011-12-16,2011-12-16&loc=mini-cal

Thanks By Info

 : ok:

Their already gonna be in mexico just take a little trip north to el paso and i'll be extremely happy.  :hihi: :smoking:

Hey GNR,

The Fillmore Detroit, The Fox Theatre, The Palace of Auburn Hills, Ford Field or Comerica Park would all welcome you back to Detroit ASAP!

Just heard that... bad news for us if GNR is planning to do couple of shows this fall in NYC

Would be cool if they announced some dates later this year, or for next year.

Well who knows, maybe another venue?  I think though they will be done renovating?  Anyone know?

they have a lot of events scheduled there in November - so they will be done by then!

Phase 1 is supposed to be done in time for the Knicks (yeah right...with the lockout, I don't think that's a worry) and Rangers to start their regular seasons on time.

The Rangers first home game is Oct 27th.

The Knicks first home game is scheduled for November 2nd.

Should be open sometime just prior to that.

Phase 2 will start next summer (2012).

Phase 3 (the final one) will run the following summer (2013).

NYC is the biggest city in the US, there's gotta be way more than one place Gn'R can play. Hell, Vegas only has 2 million people in the valley and there's a good 8 venues here I can think of off the top of my head....

actually believe it or not The Garden is the only place for a band like GNR to play in NYC.  Now the Garden will be open Nov-May, so they could easily play there.

Other venues in the area are Nassau Coliseum in Long Island (which is a shithole), Izod in Jersey which isn't terrible, and the new arena in Newark which is great.

its going to take 3 years, but they will be open during the basketball/hockey seasons.  It is also a pain in the ass to go there during the renovations, you have to go to a different floor just to use a bathroom in some cases.  The entire floor is gutted right now,

(http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/game-on/2011/07/29/Madison%20Square%20Gardenx-large.jpg)

A run of shows at Hammerstein, the Beacon, Gramercy, Terminal 5, etc. would be a nice compliment ;)

Nassau Coliseum is a shithole.  Looks like that reno got voted down, too.

MSG is the best option IN NYC, especially during cold weather (there's a bunch of places they could play out doors).

They could do shows relatively near by though.  The Casino's in CT, The Pepsi arena in Albany, couple places in Jersey (the Prudential Center in Newark, Mercer County Arena in Trenton).  You could draw off big chunks of NYC population for those shows.  Not like you could with MSG...but still possible.

And they've got concerts scheduled during the Basketball and Hockey season, there...so inconvenient facilities or not, they could easily book the venue for shows.

Aside from rumors, is there even any real indication that Axl and the boys intend to tour the US?

Considering the economic downturn, I don't think this would be the right time to attempt a US tour. If they do, they should stick to a handful of major markets and have a new product to promote.

I'd hate for these shows to garner so little attendance that Axl decides to boycott the US altogether in the future. 

"Axl and the boys", you mean Guns N' Roses.  : ok:

 :P



I'd hate to see you stop posting all this gloomy stuff...

That'd be surprising!




/jarmo

Well, unfortunately, the US economy is "gloomy" at the moment.

I was on a staff call at work today where facility closures, layoffs, and hiring freezes were discussed.

I follow the market pretty closely, so I know that this isn't an isolated incident.

If people are out of work, I can't see Axl being a "must have" for most American families.

That's all I was saying.

The economy isn't bad only in the USA.

It's true, when people have less money to spend, entertainment isn't a top priority for many.

But at the same time, many people need something to entertain them in times like these.



What I find amusing is people constantly whining about shit. They whine about how the album didn't sell, how nobody cares about it, then they whine about there not being an US tour, then they whine about the shows not selling out, how there's no new "product" to promote.

Who not use all that energy for something positive?

What you're doing has been done before. Trust me.

One minute these "fans" are saying nobody cares about GN'R and didn't buy the album, then they're wondering why GN'R won't tour in the USA.. But when there's talk about an US tour, they're saying nobody will go, then they want a new album so you they repeat the same cycle again.

It's boring.



You go to a fan site to try to bring fans down? What's the purpose?





/jarmo

First and foremost, I'm not here to bring anybody down. If what I'm saying has been "done before" as you said, that's not surprising. I didn't think that I'm the only realistic fan out there.

Like you said, when people don't have much money, they probably only spend that money on what is essential. Unfortunately, it's unlikely that Axl would be considered essential to most. I get that this is a fan site, but I don't think that makes anything that I said less fan-like.

I attended multiple shows during the last US tour. Some sold well, some not so much. If Axl attempts his first US tour in the middle of, what some are calling, the worst economic downturn of our time, I don't see that selling overly well, especially if he's touring behind an album that he has already done so multiple times. I know that he hasn't toured the states since the album release, but a nice portion of those songs have been played live both in the states and elsewhere. I think a few "new" CD songs would do little to sway most to these shows.

On a more positive note, hopefully there is no reason to concern ourselves with any of this. Hopefully, the economy will turn around and hopefully Axl will decide to debut some of this crazy cool previously unheard stuff that we've been hearing about for years now.

[Edit] I guess that I should clarify that my "complaining" is more of a concern that if Axl comes to the states and only gets mediocre or less attendance, he may just say to hell with coming back. It's a "gloomy" thought, but I don't want to see it happen.

Your viewpoint seems pretty black and white. I have tickets to see a few bands thus fall that don't sell anywhere near what CD sold. A tour can be mounted easily by finding the right ticket prices, the right venues, supporting acts, etc.

Ali

You know what I hope?

That once there's an US tour, all the fans who've spent years whining about there not being a tour get excited about it and share that excitement with people around them instead of the usual boring fucking whining about the setlist, who's not there, the fact that GN'R doesn't end their shows before 10PM etc.

One can only dream.....



There's nothing "realistic" about ignoring facts and sticking to the negativity. Which is what you seem to do.
I've seen you do that in a few threads already and you didn't even hit ten posts yet.





/jarmo

You're right.

All of the things that you mentioned would contribute to a more successful tour, but when was the last time that you bought a cheap GNR ticket or saw them with a support act that was considered commercially relevant?

I do hope that they are looking at all of their options to ensure a successful US tour, if in fact they are planning a US tour.

 

I believe you mean fucked!  :hihi:  My friends and I are staying home and drinking.  Sorry, love GNR, but I think they are going to have a rough time in the US.  On the other hand, people sold out the U2 concert at some outrageous price and stood all day in the excessive heat to see them so what do I know.

economy schmeconomy, if there is a kick ass band playing people will go.  The GNR/Metallica tour in 1992 took place during a recession and did just fine.  The Big 4 are playing Yankee stadium this year with most tickets between 150-260 bucks and its pretty much all sold out with the exception of a few tix in the nosebleeds.  I just saw Blink-182 on friday, the first stop on their comeback/new album tour and there were  almost 20,000 people there, and that was just one of the 3 New York market shows they played this weekend.  Van Halen is planning a fall tour/new album I guarantee you will have to murder someone to get tickets to any of those shows.

If Guns N Roses tour they will do just fine.  Even if some venues are not sold out, so what?  I'm past the point of caring how Guns N Roses are perceived in the media or by critics.  I don't care how much "CD" sold or didn't sell, I love the record and I'm happy that all those years of following every move the band made regarding that album paid off.  Axl saw his vision through, and we all got a great record.  Who cares if Rolling Stone or Spin likes it, they are on the verge of  becoming just another internet blog, another asshole with an opinion just like me, and the rest of the internet.

The media is going to shit on GNR no matter what.  Whether the arena is full, or empty, or if they put out an album every year or every 10 years, GNR are not media darlings, they are not Radiohead, and I am perfectly fine with that.

Let GNR and management worry about the financial nonsense, and just go to the shows and enjoy the best hard rock band on the planet.

Gn'R isn't going to have a tough time touring. Just because every show isn't sold out, doesn't mean a tour is unsuccessful. I don't know about the rest of the country, but here in Vegas there's just as many shows, just as many people at them as always. When Gn'R do tour, the fans will go and be happy, the complainers will still go and still complain, etc, ect. I for one just hope it's sooner than later.

^True that!!  I am waiting patiently, but will be a good day when I see Seattle and Las Vegas on the touring schedule, shall we party again lol....

Here's the thing:

Pop concerts (Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, Selina Gomez, Beiber [shudder]) have been selling pretty well....but MOST have adopted a lower ticket price (lower than the past year or so).

BIG ticket (Bon Jovi, for example) concerts have been selling, but more slowly than in the past.  The thing is: They are still selling.

Venues are lowering their fees, offering a bigger % of concessions, etc to entice acts into the arena...because an empty arena is worse than a full arena making you LESS money.

You can do a tour, in this climate, and make money.  Both the venues and the artists have to make some concessions, and offer a lower ticket price.  That's happening, by and large.  I don't think you can assume a GnR tour can't be successful.  Yes, if they try to charge $90 a ticket, and play every tiny arena from coast to coast (and through out Canada)....they might run into problems (and I emphasize MIGHT). The thing is: If you and I can see that....I'm sure the people putting together the tour can see the same thing.

But if they come up with a reasonable ticket price and "region-alize" their shows...something a LOT of artists are doing (more shows in big markets, fewer shows in smaller markets)...they'd have a pretty good shot at being successful.

It's not all doom and gloom. 

The shows that I have been to this summer have been more expensive than what I have paid to see the same artists in years past.
Megadeth was north of $70, but part of a festival. I bit the bullet because they are the most consistently great live band I've seen.

STP was somewhere around $80 and Soundgarden was pushing $90 I think.
I've seen all those bands for closer to $40-50 in the past(granted Soundgarden was 15 years ago!) but the draw this time around for STP and Soundgarden was they played much smaller venues as opposed to the stadiums I'm used to, and to me it was well worth the added cost.

I would like to see GN'R go this route.

GNR ticket prices have always been reasonable. Hammerstein was around $65, and the Garden show was $90.

$65 for the Hammerstein is a steal.
$90 for any stadium is robbery if you find yourself in the back.

A festival ticket for $70 is cheap.  They routinely went for $120 in years past.  Mayhem was, IMHO, a GREAT value at those prices (10-ish hours of music).

STP tickets were $45 in our neck of the woods ($52.15 after TM fees).  They varied by venue...but usually they ranged from somewhere between $50 and $70 (with a few exceptions...you may have been one of them).

Soundgarden were, from what I saw, between $70 and $90 with TM fees.  I know there was some pretty loud complaints about the ticket prices....even though they were in smaller, more intimate venues.  But, they still sold out most (all?) shows.

And that's what I mean.  You have to get a bit more creative...but you can make a tour work.

If certain so called fans focused on what they have instead of what they don't have, things would be a lot better for all of us.

You haven't had a proper US tour by GN'R in almost five years.

But for some, that's not a big deal. It seems like they'd rather wait until they get the show they want, than to go see their "favorite band".

Weird logic.


I mean, if one of my favorite bands is on tour and I have a chance of going to a show, I'll go. Doesn't matter what album the tour is supporting, or not supporting. Doesn't matter what songs they play.

For me, a concert isn't some kind of fucking jukebox on stage where I demand to hear certain songs, no matter if the majority never heard said song.

It's a chance to see my favorite band perform the songs I love right in front of me.

What's so horrible about that? Must be horrible to some since some fans whine about the shows when there's none and when there are shows, they still whine.




If the thought of GN'R touring your country/state/city doesn't interest you, stay home and shut the fuck up.

It's mind boggling how some "fans" actually spend time trying to bring others down as soon as there's any talk of a tour.





/jarmo

If you live in the States, you can always get a $10 ticket in the lot.

Oh yeah, $70 is a great deal for a festival. Just not in my situation because I was there solely for Megadeth, and they only played a 45 minute set compared to their typical 2+.
We had a feeling going in though. Can't all be zingers.
STP was more expensive I think because they played Hampton Beach Casino which is a real intimate place compared to where they have been playing around here in years past.
Soundgarden was worth every penny. Best show I've seen this year. Killer 25 song setlist, good seats because of the fan presale, and decent venues.

Again, I have no problem paying a little extra if it means a smaller venue. Makes all the difference.

Is a U.S. tour actually being planned by the band for the late fall, or is it just a rumor?  Last I checked, nobody in the GNR camp has ever said anything either way about an upcoming states tour.

I hope it's true...

It may only be a rumor at this point. but I feel like it was definitively NOT happening, we would know that.

Listen Song

PATIENCE

 : ok:

Band members have talked about touring the US like DJ, Tommy and i think Bumblefoot but right now everything is really just rumors N' speculation

Did they say that plans were in the works for a US tour, or just that they'd like to tour the states?

Either way, it's not looking too promising for 2011. Maybe next year.

Does the band have a manager at the present? I thought that I read that Doc was fired.

We'll see if it's too late.

2006 was a while ago now, but if I remember right, the US tour wasn't announced until September of that year. I could be wrong, but I think that's right. If memory serves, the tour wasn't announced until September and then I saw them in November.

You're not wrong.  Though some dates were leaked early, the official tour press release didn't come out until the end of September.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=1707

Ali

Yes, a bunch of the shows were announced in September for October, November and December 2006.




/jarmo

Here's hoping for a repeat!

i will be very disappointed if there is no US tour.  I understand that the economy isn't great here, right now, but then team up with a kick ass opening band.  I hope the US will be a major focus for them and we hear something soon.

I think that this will really be a key factor in the success of a US tour.

Personally, I haven't seen a GNR show since the early 90s where I felt that the opening acts were even mildly interesting.

Baz was great during his Skid Row era, but his solo ventures will do very little to entice sales.

I would LOVE to see a Guns, Metallica, and Faith No More revisted tour. Now, that has the potential to be huge.

I could really give a flying fuck about the opening act.  I'm there to see GNR and hear the songs.  I'd like GNR only with a potty break some where in the long set.

Success is on Axl's shoulders.  The public want him to be a badass.  Notice I didn't say dick--lol  I think it needs some personal promotion.  And stick to the cities they do well in, unfortunately that's not mine but I'll watch from the net.

Oh yeah, and the never ending, fix Axl's hair.

There have also been hints at some shows by concert promoter Jim Koplik and the one and only Eddie Trunk.  Koplik has stood strong for awhile now that he thinks GNR will tour the US in the fall, and Eddie said he had heard rumblings of some shows in the midwest for the fall as well.

So while I understand the hesitation, I wouldn't give up hope just yet.

I just looked it up, and the 2006 U.S. tour was not officially announced until September 29th of that year and that tour was in November & December.

While it would probably make sense to announce the dates a bit sooner this time around, based on the economy, I agree that we should not give up on a 2011 states tour just yet. 

If we don't hear anything by September, then I think it's safe to say that the U.S. won't be seeing a GNR tour in 2011.  Until then, keep your fingers crossed!

crossing finger & toes!! :drool:

I hope to see a USA tour that also includes some dates in Canada. I am happy to see the band back on the road. Great to see an additional show in Mexico City too. Hope to see a long tour on the road to and visit some new cities and make some friends along the away. It will be interesting to see what happems after these Mexico dates.

The Fall 02 Tour was also announced in September, so we have plenty of time.

Yeah, looking through the news archives, it looks like dates started trickling out throughout September, with both tours being officialy confirmed by GNR late in the month.

I wonder though, since the U.S. economy went south in 2007, would it be a good idea to give these dates more time to sell?  I assume the powers that be know what they're doing in terms of announcemnts, I just wonder if we'll start hearing about Fall dates in the US sooner than later.

How good is the Mexican economy...the US is still leaps and bounds ahead as an economy over most of the places they have announced.  We are still the riches country, aren't we?

Maybe, maybe not but it's not about that.

Americans are strained under debt that has been building for years, but they also have a lot more options for the little bit of expendable income they might have in this climate.

Your average Mexican fan may not have as much disposable income, but he also doesn't have as much competing for the money he does have. It's a bit of supply and demand. I'm pretty sure we'll be hearing about US dates soon enough :) Just a feeling no one start any rumours :P

China owns us. But Gn'R most likely won't be playing there anytime soon.

It's not always about that.

Who has the most money.


It's about making everything right. So it works out for everybody.





/jarmo

Well, we know November & December are still clear for GNR and that time-frame has been Axl's preferance to tour the states during past tours.  We know they'll be finishing their dates in Mexico at the end of October.  And, of course, we know that they've been trying to find the right time to tour the states since this tour began.

That said, my guess is that they're currently trying to get the logistics straight and map out a tour.  Wouldn't surprise me if we start hearing rumblings over the next few weeks as things heat up.

I believe they will make a tour in the U.S. in November.

 I also have hope also for a new album in November

 I remember the rumors of the release Chinese Democracy in 2008  started in September and October the band has confirmed.

  within one month I think we have good news

 But I'm sad that it will not show in Sao Paulo, did not get tickets to RIR

I think what GNR has planned for already is great. We are not getting a GNR RIR one off show but a continuation of shows in Latin America especially the new places (eg. Bolivia and Paraguay) they have never played and with the same players as the last tour. This is important in my eyes. For GNR to play in La Paz is incredible. I just hope they have an effective and sustainable management team for the future to compliment the music and band. Like I mentioned b4 I hope for a US tour of some sorts in November. It will be interesting to see if its a major tour or just some markets somewhere.

I am really happy that they are just out there doing their thing. I was just amazed in how good this band were live when I saw them in Canada and hope the US gets the same or even a better product. As for San Paulo, GNR can always do a secong leg of Latin America . They could do Porto Rico, Costa Rica , El Salvador, Venezuela, Colombia,  Ecuador, Peru and even Uruaguay again. I would just love them to tour the fuck out of Brazil and do some of the back waters. GNR could play at Manaus, Curitba, Port Alegra, Rio de Janeiro, S?o Paulo, Belo Horizonte, Brasilia to name a few. GNR has a number of options and opportunities for the future. I to hope for great things with regards to future world tours and new music to.

Guns are planning a US tour. This thread would not be here otherwise.

Just be patient.

Makes me have a bit of Patience!

There's a rumour that GNR will tour with Van Halen for a couple of dates. I find this very unlikely, who would headline?!

David Lee doesn't take a backseat from no one  ;D neither Axl does :hihi:

Tour 2002
Tour 2006

4 Years Of Diference...

Now... 6 Years Aprox, No Tour USA...

 :no:

I'm not a VH fan by any means, but they're definitely the bigger of the two US bands given the current scenario.

How do you figure?

Great news, thanks.  Bring it on. :yes:

god I hope that's based on something you know

I agree! Even if it was the old GNR band, to me they would still be bigger. (Even though GNR is my favorite band)

The difference now is they have been an active band and released CD. There was no activity between 02 to 06. Hopefully we hear something, definitely excited to see Guns N' Roses !!!!!

I think that when various band members say they think there's gonna be a tour, they don't just say that for no reason.




/jarmo

Hoping that this goes from the 'planning' stage to the 'implementation/booking' stage soon!

: ok:

Wait, where did these Van Halen rumors come from?  Perhaps a condition of the Azoff settlement?

Now that would be very unexpected & fun...

I think it's not a rumor, more the usual wild guess.

Van Halen are recording an album/touring + GN'R rumored to tour...

There you go.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put that "rumor" together.



/jarmo

Yeah, they're both rumored to tour the states late in the year so I could see how that talk would start.  Not to mention the vague conditions of the "Dates at various....venues"  comment from the attorneys.  Though I know that could mean literally anything. 

Either way, good news that a US tour is indeed being planned, with or without VH.

I'm so hoping for the elusive Detroit date!

I can't see Van Halen and GNR touring together in arenas, that would take stadiums.  Van Halen's tour in 2007 was near impossible to get into tickets sold so fast.  I don't see the financial benefits of having TWO bands that are more than capable of filling an arena on their own sharing a bill.  It seems some of you are short changing how huge Van Halen still is in the states.  When David Lee Roth fronts the band, they are a massive draw.  Van Halen has the classic rock crowd on lockdown, like Ac/Dc.   I just think both bands are too big to do an arena tour together.  If it were stadiums that would make more sense.  Just my 2 cents.

No disrespect to VH or any of there fans but i just don`t see it, maybe if they were outdoor venues with a festival atmosphere then yeah but indoors during winter i`d be amazed  :peace:

This really isn't specific to GN'R and/or VH.


But isn't it true that sometimes bands choose to play smaller places and add multiple nights instead of playing a bigger venue?

Sometimes they just prefer the smaller place, sometimes the big one isn't available etc.

Also, when there's a bigger demand for tickets (for a smaller capacity venue), it creates buzz.

Imagine when an arena show comes to town but they play a theater. With maybe 5000 seats instead of 20000.


When GN'R played those warm up shows in 2006 in NYC, there was buzz about the shows. They could've just played at the Garden...

Same thing in London with the Hammersmith Apollo. And also all the acoustic gigs they've done even though those were never on sale for the general public.



/jarmo

I get that you're not saying this is the case with the (rumored) upcoming US Tour, but MAN OH MAN would I love for GNR to do theaters and what not for the tour!!

I agree that VH are a big US band, but I think an arena would work in the majority of US cities.

Guns aren't nearly as popular in the US as they were in the 80s/90s, and considering the state of the economy, I think the arenas would accomodate the crowds that such a tour would draw.

The U.S. has been starved for a huge rock event for some time now. (Motley Crue & Poison just doesn't cut it  :hihi:)

If there's any truth to these rumblings, I could see a Van Halen/Guns N' Roses co-headlining tour getting just huge amounts of attention and press.  If both those bands put albums out, the skies are literally the limit for the attention it would garner.

I would see no problem paying a hefty sum for great seats to that show.  And yes, they can always do more than 1 show in the bigger markets.

It amuses me when I read people say things like "there's no true rock bands out there".

Then when a real one goes on tour, these same people are whining about start times....

Make up your fucking mind!  :hihi:


GN'R gets an amazingly unfair treatment from certain people. How many go see the Rolling Stones when they tour with the attitude "it's gonna suck because it's not the Sticky Fingers era Stones!"? Or how many go see Bruce Springsteen and think "oh, it's not the same because it's not the 1975 Springsteen!".

Seems like there's a group of fans who like to focus on what it's not instead of what it is. And then they claim to be objective.




/jarmo

It's interesting that bands like Thin Lizzy, Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Doors, etc. who tour with 1 or 2 original members under those banners don't get nearly the same flack that Axl gets, probably since those members are dead.  Since the original lineup is alive, you're always gonna have some fans who hold onto the past and reject the present, no matter how awful said members get along.  Since Axl owns the name, it's as if he holds the key to their happiness, which in their minds is the original lineup(s).  So like Axl said, he becomes the bad guy pretty fast.

It's amusing.  Even though I'd buy tickets to a reunion show, I would definitely not go into it with the expectation of seeing the 85-93 magic all over again.  It would be fun as far as nostalgia goes, but their styles don't even seem to mesh anymore and it might be a bit of a mess.

I will agree with you on that one.  VH and GNR together COULD do stadiums, but I don't think it's a guaranteed hot ticket.  Arenas, there's no doubt.  There'd be sold out shows in every city, or close to it at least.

With that being said, I went over to www.vhlinks.com yesterday and read nothing of any supposed tour rumors with GNR.  I saw they were supposed to play some festival in Australia but that was canceled.  They are still planning to tour and release an album, but I figured if this was a hot rumor, it would be being discussed over there.

I love both bands so I'd be down with it. I would hope that it's kinda like the GNR/Metallica tour though where both acts do a full set.

I've asked this question at least once already, but is there any recent indication from the band or management  that they are in fact planning a US tour?

Unless I've missed it, I have yet to see anything that would support this other than vague, unsubstantiated rumors and wishful thinking.

The settlement with Azoff included some sort of touring deal
At least once proven insider has said he believes the band will be touring

and you know they would want to...

I'm going by what Mysteron is saying.

Final Tour Obviously Is In USA.

Considering the album was released nearly 3 years ago now, I wouldn't say that anything is obvious.

"Obvious" would have been a US tour years ago.

Not

For GN'R Fans Asian, Europe & Latinoamerican Is More Important

Bye

What?

I have a hard time understanding what you say, but are you suggesting that Guns feel that their Asian, European, and Latino fanbase is more important to them than their American fanbase?

If so, you're probably not doing Guns any favors by making such baseless comments.

You've made 43 posts with nothing but baseless comments.

I've yet to see you say one positive thing about GN'R, that doesn't relate to the old band.


I've noticed that people see through your act.

What are you gonna do once everybody starts ignoring you?

Which I hope will happen ASAP since you're like a fish out of water here.
 




/jarmo

Wow.

I have absolutely no idea how you came to such a baseless conclusion about me.

If people want to ignore me (why, I have no idea) then that is certainly their perogative.

I do find it rather strange that you would pointlessly attack my character, yet take no issue with the guy who basically said that Guns find their American fans least important.

I'm sorry to disappoint you because you seem eager to discredit me and my opinions, but I am not acting, attempting to be negative, or only talking about the original lineup.

It really seems as if you are trying to create something that isn't there. Or, at the very least, you're a very poor judge of character.

As far as I'm concerned, he did what you do, trying to get attention by posting things to provoke others.


Prove me wrong.

Show me where you've been supportive of GN'R as it is today.

Instead of trying to discredit the current band and its members at any opportunity.


I'm just saying, your kind of behavior will get you noticed. Not always a good thing. Considering people are already fed up with you.




/jarmo

Does asking (multiple times) if there is any solid info to indicate that a Guns tour is really in the works not count?

What about my mentioning that I need to pick up another copy of Chinese Democracy because I lost mine?

Are those the questions and comments of someone who hates Guns?

What exactly are you looking for here?

You have to understand, I'm a mid-thirties fan. I'm a little beyond the stage of "Axl is God".   :hihi:

Yeah, but the funniest thing was reading you post about picking up another copy of Appetite and then not saying a word about that elusive copy of CD... That's comedy!

Either you really thought of something that funny, or it is the truth and it just happens to be funny.

I don't know, still pure comedy.





Nobody's said anything about Gods.


You have to understand that when you start posting and most of your posts are negative, you come across as a person who doesn't care for the band.

Maybe you cared at some point.

That's the kind of impression people get of those that are negative. Doesn't matter what reason they have for their negativity.





/jarmo

I don't know what to say other than I'm glad that you were able to find humor in my picking up another copy of AFD.

I never really thought about that being funny or negative. It was the only copy on the shelf and I thought that it would be nice to hear it on vinyl.

This OLD/FAN Is Crazy

There's going to be a "huge" announcement about an act being added to the iheartradio festival in Vegas. They keep tweeting and posting on fb asking fans who they'd like to see and I keep replying with Guns N' Roses each time.

Although I live about 5 miles from the MGM Grand, I really hope this isn't true.....have you seen the rest of the crap playing that festival?

It is funny.

You go on about how you need to get a copy of CD, but when you're at Best Buy, you make a point of pointing out to us how there were copies on the shelf and telling us how you got a new copy of AFD.

I see the humor in that. I can't take it seriously.


Why didn't you buy that new copy of CD that you long for?




September 23-24.

Seems a bit pop oriented...

Anyway, might be tough considering the first show in South America is like a week after that.





/jarmo

Yeah I wasn't figuring it was very plausible, just more hoping than anything.

The Important This Moment By GN'R Is LATINOAMERICAN TOUR & Not USA

 ;D

Quote from: russtcb on Today at 08:58:21 AM
There's going to be a "huge" announcement about an act being added to the iheartradio festival in Vegas. They keep tweeting and posting on fb asking fans who they'd like to see and I keep replying with Guns N' Roses each time.


Sorry Russtcb it is not!!  I believe I heard this morning that it is Jay Z, at least I think that is who they said lol...  It was early!!

Right. And since that's A) Already happening and B) not the subject of this thread, it has nothing to do with this.

HBK, as if anyone couldn't tell you're not from the USA and don't consider GNR's popularity here important. We get it  : ok:

ahh good point, I didn't even think of  two big bands doing multiple dates in the same venue.  That would create a lot of buzz because it would make it a really hot ticket. I remember the 2 Hammerstein shows I went to had more buzz than any show I have ever seen.  That could be very interesting.

Yes Friend, but in latinoamerica more, I Like ALL Material Fans Of USA, MP3/FLAC/DVD...

 : ok:

Ok... I don't know what file formats have to do with anything.

But enough of that.


 : ok:



/jarmo

The more I think about even a prospect of any sort of GNR US Theater Tour, the more excited I get. That would be the most amazing show I could think of. I was at the first Hammerstein show and it was just plain electric. I couldn't even imagine how awesome it would be to see the same thing near my own home in Detroit.

Let's say there's a new album on the horizon..

A cool thing to do would be doing a mini theater tour in the US, 2-3 concerts each in 5-8 major cities.

Album release.

Full blown US arena tour.

Please do not take this the wrong way as it's not hostile at all, but I gotta ask; do you have anything based in fact to be putting out the "new album" rumor? Like I said, I don't want that question to come off rude but I'm just wondering if that's your guess or you're going on something you heard.

I think he's being hypothetical... Based on nothing other than best case scenario

Gotcha. I was thinking that was the case but I was hoping it was based in fact or a solid rumor.

I haven't heard anything recently. This whole scenario would be hypothetical, as said above me.

The only thing I've heard (I assume you as well) would be Dj saying they're working on songs.

Rumors are starting to heat up about some East Coast shows in November now, namely Connecticut & Mas.  Hopefully we'll hear something official soon!  : ok:

Not to be a dick, but is there some reason why sources are never attached to these type of posts?

Not saying it's untrue, just saying I'd love for a source to be attached.

Jim Koplik of Live Nation is the source of the supposed Connecticut appearance. : ok:

Sorry 'bout that. Rock stations in Boston are talking about GNR planning a show in Mas.  As was mentioned in the above post, the Connecticut rumor is from Jim Koplik.  Eddie Trunk has also been quoted talking about some midwest dates during the same time.

Sweet. And again, I wasn't trying to be a dick, I'm just really hoping something comes of these rumors sooner than later and reliable sources help me in my quest to believe.  :hihi:

You'd think they'd want to start a US tour off right, starting with promotion.

There's no reason to keep fans speculating to the last second on whether or not it will happen.

What about planning and getting confirmation from all venues as a reason to await starting promotion.

If the tour starts in November, and the press release comes out in September, that's hardly "last second".  ::)

Why are you assuming they are "keeping fans speculating" deliberately?  It could be that not all the dates have been finalized and they are waiting to have all the dates/venues finalized before making a full press release.  When they announced the 2006 US tour, they released a full itinerary.

Ali

DUDE. You need to knock that shit off! Isn't it MUCH easier just to complain and/or find things to complain about?  :hihi:

Several times during this thread I asked if there is a legitimate source suggesting that a tour is being planned.

I never received a response other than "just rumors".

When I said "leaving the fans speculating", I was referring more to Axl and the band's silence on the matter.
 
I'm just saying. It would be nice to hear if there was in fact a possibility from an actual band source.

Give it a bit more time is what I think well hear one way or another soon

Here you go.

Anything else that doesn't please you?




http://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-dj-ashba-interview/





/jarmo

Once again, the last US Tour was announced only a few weeks before it started. If we get to the end of September and nothing's been announced, that's when I'll start to doubt there's going to be any shows in the US this year.

That print interview does little to make me optimistic.

He says that they are "itching" to tour the states, not that there are plans in motion.

Fine.


Move along then until you have something to be happy about.

 : ok:



/jarmo

Dj says: "when everything goes through"

He's implying they're working on it - plans in motion.



I have my doubts that you could ever be "optimistic" going by the way you've expressed yourself in here.

Not being optimistic and not being happy aren't necessarily one in the same.

In general, I'm happy. However, I'm not optimistic that there will be a US tour based on the little supporting evidence, if any, that has been provided.

I don't think that's unreasonable.

When I first started reading this thread, some of the comments gave me the illusion that a US tour was in the works.

After asking for supporting documentation multiple times, all I've received is fan speculation and an interview where the guitarist says that they're "itching" to play the states.

I'll be optimistic when someone in the know says that plans are in motion.

Until then, it's nothing more than wishful thinking.

It's all about how you see the world.

I saw within less than ten of your posts how you see the GN'R world.

The way you conduct yourself here is so predictble.

Every post is more of the same. Looking for some tiny way of putting things down and complaining.

Everything is wrong, is not only an album by Moby, but it also seems to be your motto.




I hope that pretty soon you'll be posting to yourself and nobody bothers to even respond to your posts. It's that boring.




/jarmo

I liked your Moby remark, but I disagree with your logic.

There is no concrete proof to indicate a US tour is being planned. Period.

It doesn't mean that I see everything as being wrong. It just means that I see things as they are rather than how I wish that they'd be.

There's nothing "boring" about that.

Should I go out and buy a yacht based on the fact that I'd like to win a million dollars? If not, does that make be boring or realistic?

If you keep repeating how you're not gonna win every other day, it makes you boring. Simple as that.

Try complaining to your friends every day about how you'll never win the lottery and see how long before somebody tells you to find something else to talk about...



I'm not the only one who has noticed your "act".

Sorry to say, but it wasn't "fun" for even five minutes.

Better luck next time. : ok:



To be clear: We get it, you don't think there's an US tour planned. We get it. Come back when your opinion changes. How many times do you need to repeat yourself? If everybody else thinks there is an US tour being planned and think you are wrong, let them.




/jarmo

Act?

I made a statement based on the facts that are before me. Nothing more.

There are 4 months remaining in this calendar year. They are booking tour dates for October and November in South America.

Since there are no scheduled US dates for September, that leaves December.

Could they book US shows for December? It's possible, but there is no evidence at present time to suggest this.

At best, it looks like 2012, if anything.

Like you said, if people want to believe that a US tour is in the works because that's what they want to believe, that's ok by me.

If my reasoning constitutes an "act" on your part, I'm sorry.

In the meantime, I'll sit back quietly while I wait for the announcement.

No South American dates for November have been announced, or even rumored to my knowledge.  In fact, they're scheduled to play 4 shows in Mexico towards the end of October, getting closer and closer to the US.

You've asked the same question about 30 times in this thread.  NO, there are no official announced US dates as of yet.  Nobody with the band or associated with the band has said whether they will indeed play any shows in the US this year or not.  I think that answers your question, I'm not sure why you're not satisfied.

The last 2 tours in the US were both announced in September, and they toured by years end.  So while you may find it nearly impossible that a US tour could happen this year, history would say otherwise.

People are speculating that a US tour could very well be in the works based on rumors, statements, and wishful thoughts.  If you choose not to view things quite as optimistically, that's totally up to you.  But let us dreamers dream in peace if you will.

until a band officially announces dates, what type of "concrete proof" is there that they are planning a tour? i'm just curious what it is you are looking for. cause it seems like you are just stating the obvious. over and over.   

In my opinion i would  be suprised if there wasn`t anymore dates added just by the fact of getting the road crew and all the stage and everything together i think you`d want to do more than 10 shows to make it worth your while, lets remember "all good things come to those who wait" : ok:

yeah it would be one thing if we were speculating about them touring the U.S when the band wasn't touring at all.  The band is already going to be on the road, the members have  talked about their desire to tour the states, the Azoff thing got settled, I think we all have a very good reason to be optimistic.  We have gotten excited before with far less to go on than this.. I feel good about it, we shall see.

Yeah, no shit.  What concrete proof is there that dates are being planned or discussed?  Would you like to see e-mails or phone transcripts of discussions between promoters and management?   ::)  When have you ever seen that?

I can't recall many, if any at all, instances with any band where they come out and say, "yeah, we are officially in talks to do a US tour."  What would be the point in that?  If things fall through for some reason, the band will just get criticized for "getting the fans' hopes up".

Ali

Another US date for Guns N' Roses has been announced with rumblings that more U.S. shows will be announced soon (but as yet unconfirmed).

Following recent news that the band is set to play Miami on October 29, The Orlando Sentinel reports GNR will perform at the Amway Center in Orlando, Florida on October 28.

GNR's last US concert appearance was when the band headlined the closing night of the Rock 'N Rev Festival at the 70th annual Sturgis Bike Rally in Sturgis, South Dakota on August 13, 2010. more on this story

http://www.antimusic.com/news/11/sep/06Guns_N_Roses_US_Tour_Plans_Taking_Shape.shtml

No they don't  :D

but yeah if they are going to be getting everything together might as well pick up a few Canadian dates, it's not that much further.

From some of the posts I've seen, it looks like a North American tour.  I could only imagine this would include Canada, Mexico and US already have some dates announced. : ok:

American dates are beginning to slowly come in for a Guns N' Roses tour this fall. So far, they are only slated to play Orlando, Miami and Kansas City ? but with a two-week gap between two of the dates, expect many more to come. The group has toured extensively overseas in recent years, but they haven't done a proper U.S. tour since 2006. The band ? which features Axl Rose as its sole original member ? hasn't performed since a show in Dubai last December, but they launch a 10-date tour of South America and Mexico in early October.

After more than a decade of delay, Guns N' Roses released Chinese Democracy in November of 2008. There's been much speculation that another record may one day come from material that didn't make the cut for that LP. "We certainly did record a lot of stuff," says Guns N' Roses bassist Tommy Stinson. "We recorded three records worth of material over the course of that 10-year period, but I think that a lot of the unfinished bits were mostly lyrics and mixes and things like that." Might another record be in the works? "I'm not a liberty to talk about that," Stinson says. "I don't get into that aspect. That's Axl's business."

The band is eligible for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next year. Assuming they get in on their first ballot, the March 2012 ceremony would be an opportunity for the classic lineup to stand together on the same stage for the first time since drummer Steven Adler left in 1990. Rose has long maintained that any sort of reunion with the classic lineup is impossible ? but guitarist Izzy Stradlin did play with Axl on a series of dates in 2006. And last year in England, bassist Duff McKagan played on four songs at the 02 Arena in London.

It's clear, however, that Axl is unwilling to perform with Slash ever again. "In a nutshell, personally I consider him a cancer and better removed," Axl said in 2009. "The less anyone heard of him or his supporters the better."

Here are the upcoming USA dates for Guns N' Roses.

10/28/11 - Orlando, FL - Amway Center
10/29/11 - Miami, FL - American Airlines Arena
11/12/11 - Kansas City, MO - Sprint Center

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/guns-n-roses-launching-american-tour-in-october-20110909

Haha, yep....we know this...

There are a bunch of threads already discussing all of this.

American dates are beginning to slowly come in for a Guns N' Roses tour this fall. So far, they are only slated to play Orlando, Miami and Kansas City ? but with a two-week gap between two of the dates, expect many more to come. The group has toured extensively overseas in recent years, but they haven't done a proper U.S. tour since 2006. The band ? which features Axl Rose as its sole original member ? hasn't performed since a show in Dubai last December, but they launch a 10-date tour of South America and Mexico in early October.

After more than a decade of delay, Guns N' Roses released Chinese Democracy in November of 2008. There's been much speculation that another record may one day come from material that didn't make the cut for that LP. "We certainly did record a lot of stuff," says Guns N' Roses bassist Tommy Stinson. "We recorded three records worth of material over the course of that 10-year period, but I think that a lot of the unfinished bits were mostly lyrics and mixes and things like that." Might another record be in the works? "I'm not a liberty to talk about that," Stinson says. "I don't get into that aspect. That's Axl's business."

The band is eligible for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next year. Assuming they get in on their first ballot, the March 2012 ceremony would be an opportunity for the classic lineup to stand together on the same stage for the first time since drummer Steven Adler left in 1990. Rose has long maintained that any sort of reunion with the classic lineup is impossible ? but guitarist Izzy Stradlin did play with Axl on a series of dates in 2006. And last year in England, bassist Duff McKagan played on four songs at the 02 Arena.

It's clear, however, that Axl is unwilling to perform with Slash ever again. "In a nutshell, personally I consider him a cancer and better removed," Axl said in 2009. "The less anyone heard of him or his supporters the better."

Here are the upcoming USA dates for Guns N' Roses.

10/28/11 - Orlando, FL - Amway Center
10/29/11 - Miami, FL - American Airlines Arena
11/12/11 - Kansas City, MO - Sprint Center

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/guns-n-roses-launching-american-tour-in-october-20110909

HBK 2.0?

i did not even see this thread lol

Jim Koplik (correctly predicted fall US tour) thinks there'll be GN'R gigs in "Hartford, Worcester and NY". :)

I just don't understand why they won't promote this tour with a big press release of dates.  I know they may still be working on some, but the one date at a time does very little for momentum.  A sweeping 20 date tour announcement would gain much more buzz if it came all at once.  Haven't they learned from CD's lack of strong promotion that it is really important to create buzz in the US? 

That being said, I can't wait to see them multiple times in the states soon.

I think this phased system of releasing dates is designed to sustain any sort of ?buzz?.

The way the dates are playing out looks like the West coast dates will be in Dec.

Its going to be interesting....

They are free Oct 30th -> Nov 12th... Doesnt give them much time for may shows on either coast, (assuming they do every other night, which is the norm, even though they have a few back to backs scheduled already)

This little piece of info is on the Target Center web site, and it's often overlooked by a lot of people:
The group has toured extensively overseas in recent years, but they haven?t done a U.S. tour since 2006.


It seems like people forget that in this age of Youtube clips and bands touring every summer.

Even if you saw the 2006 tour, you haven't seen this show. No matter how you twist it.

A real rock n' roll show every five years, is that too much to handle?  :hihi:





/jarmo

Yeah especially since they added more Chinese Democracy songs to those show's overseas, that weren't played at the time in 2006.   I'm eager to see when they announce the west coast shows !  :beer:

Most of the US fans have not seen this band or this show.

The production alone is way different compared to 2006-7.





/jarmo

tour will have interval the 29th october  to the 12th of November?

If you believe any material that can roll again Nov. 8. kkk

MSG Available Dates 19 & 20 November...

I'm beyond excited to hear more Chinese Democracy songs and see the newer production first hand!

No shows have been announced for those dates yet. Doesn't mean there won't be shows during that period.



/jarmo

is right. kk is only a dream of a fan, but I believe that Axl Rose will give us a Christmas present (plus one). Though the tour is already the best gift of the year

Yes

PROSTITUTE / SR / TWAT / SCRAPED / SORRY / THIS I LOVE / CITR  / ITW


 :love:

I've had the pleasure of hearing TWaT and Riad live in person in the past but I wouldn't mind hearing them again of course! And I can't wait to hear all the others.

Looks like many of the venue web sites list the GN'R shows with a "start" time at 9PM. The Sprint Center event page says 10PM.

That's good.

9PM doesn't necessarily mean GN'R will begin at 9PM, especially if there are opening act(s).




/jarmo

This is a brilliant move (i'm assuming by suggestion of the promoters)..

People will have no reason to bitch when GNR gets on stage @ 10:45-11:30, now

Definitely smart thinking.  I wonder if that's difficult for them to negotiate with some of the venues, based on various curfew laws.  

I except more than 15 shows

Ron sounded like he had to quick make plans to ship his equipment out to LA.  I think they were called to rehersals early.  I'm wondering if once the US tickets go on sale if we aren't going to see GNR surface before they take off for Rio.  You know they just don't need that much practice.

The Garden ADD... WWE Show In November 20...

 :'(

Yeah well don't try to be the booking agent / manager for the tour and you won't feel sad.

In reality you have no idea when the band might play in New York. You're looking at a calendar and guessing. Even then your guess was wrong.





/jarmo

One thing about scheduling that I'm curious about is with the expecatation that that NBA won't be playing games for awhile, when does the venue get to start rescheduling game days for other events?  I can imagine how difficult it must be to schedule a tour and have it make sense from an efficiency perspective, this NBA thing is just another wrinkle.

According to Here Today? Gone To Hell!, GUNS N' ROSES will perform the following U.S. shows in October/November:

Oct. 28 - Amway Center - Orlando, FL
Oct. 29 - AmericanAirlines Arena - Miami, FL
Nov. 12 - Sprint Center - Kansas City, MO
Nov. 13 - Target Center - Minneapolis, MN
Nov. 15 - Allstate Arena - Rosemont, IL

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163165

My Dude:

Why This Page HATE To GN'R ??

Until the NBA rules, officially, they're going to delay the start of the season...venues will hold those dates open.  The NBA PROBABLY is 3-ish weeks away from that announcement....they'll let it go as long as they can.  Once they announce the delay.....they'll probably let venues book through the end of November....and then go month to month (in mid November, let them open up all of december, etc).

this will be an amazing tour...we have arena shows,but we have amphiteatre shows too (atlanta,dalas)...this is amazing

What a great day  several us shows are announced :beer:

The dates seems to be falling together nicely. The only big gap at the moment is Between Dallas and Kansas City. 11/5/11 - 11-12/11. I wonder what direction they're gonna go then? Logistaically it's be more expensive to head west, then back east, but who knows, the route as it is now is kinda zig-zagy, lol. Oh well, Minneapolis and Chicago here I come!

Yeah does seem a bit goofy... Mexico, then Florida, then Texas, back east, West coast has to follow, no?

Coming from NC -2 shows 4 me so far

- Miami- 2hr flight & Hartford CT- I'm off that week to see my folks for annual NY Thanksgiving trip so perfect Timing!!

 I'm praying MSG lines up w/NY trip but seems like all dates at MSG are filled that week unless they play somewhere else- I will be fucking pissed tho if they play NC while I'm out of town in NY Thanksgiving week but so far so good! :beer: :beer:

Thats what I was thinking...it will be interesting to see if or what they do in this space. Dates are coming in thick and fast. Does this mean they could be dropping by Canada  possibly after the US dates on the east coast.

quick look at what we have so far  : ok:



(http://i52.tinypic.com/213rthf.jpg)

Thanks man, it helped me a lot.

''Junge, baby!''  :peace:

my map so far:


Miami- Hartfort,CT- Atlanta , GA, -Greenville, SC - HOLY FUCK & i'M NOT DONE!! :smoking:

^^ brilliant you read my mind i was gunna ask if someone could do a pin point map thanks very much : ok:

Ok.It's obviously,this tour will be massive.I except 5-6 new dates for East coatst,and in Novembere and December GNR probably we will see dates in West coast.Great time for fans in US.

Hopefully we'll get some NY dates soon. And I am still holding out hope for an Atlantic City Show !!!! :drool:

They better not miss Baltimore or Washington D.C!

I'm stoked as hell- but i wish we had all the dates! brilliant marketing tho cause nobody knows 4 sure where their going so already making plans 4 closest show : ok:

but don't you think people will be pissed if they make plans to travel four to six hours, then find out the band will be thirty minutes away?

I understand your point, but for me personally, no, it wouldn't piss me off. It'd just mean I'm going to see them more than once. lol

are you wealthy, childless, or both?

What's your deal man.... Maybe he's been saving a fund for this tour to see multiple dates, by working hard, while raising his kids... Is it any of your concern why he decided to do?

my "deal" is i was making a joke.  sorry it was lost on you.

it's all good- GnR always keeps us guessing- that's why we love them so much!

- I'm just happy as hell I'm gettin to see them multiple times again this year- i mean REALLY FUCKIN HAPPY! bring on more dates- i own my own business so it motivates me to make more $$ to see the shows :beer: :beer: :beer:

right on. 
i just wish they'd announce something closer than 4.5 hours from me.

funny thing is the closest date- SC is about 4hrs but is the most inconvenient for me! it's on a Monday which makes me miss a day and half of work, 8 hrs in the car in 2 days & is on the same day i get back from Miami but when u want something really good u got to pay the piper! : ok:

Where do ya live anyway?

eastern kentucky.  god's country.

if they go from the east coact to the west coast in The US to play they may as well go through Canada. Start in Montreal and finish in vancouver and then drop down.

I'm thinking Dallas, Nashville, St. Louis, KC looks good to me.  ;D

Is it safe to say that the west coast shows, will go on sale in early late sept, early Oct ?

This is from blabbermouth.net today...


GUNS N' ROSES: U.S. Tour Officially Announced - Sep. 21, 2011

GUNS N' ROSES will embark on its first U.S. tour in five years this fall. The trek will kick off October 28 in Orlando, Florida and will include stops in 30 cities ? fueled by Monster Energy ? from October to New Year's Eve. Before hitting the States, GN'R will tour Latin America, starting with a sold-out, headline slot for the closing day of the Rock In Rio festival in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil on October 2 in front of 75,000 fans.

The tour is scheduled to hit the following cities:

* Oct. 28 - Orlando, FL @ Amway Center Arena
* Oct. 29 - Miami, FL @ American Airlines Arena
* Oct. 31 - Greenville, SC @ Bi-Lo Center Arena
* Nov. 02 - Atlanta, GA @ Phillips Arena
* [to be announced] - Houston, TX - [to be announced]
* Nov. 05 - Dallas, TX @ Gexa Energy Pavillion
* [to be announced] - Omaha, NE - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Tulsa, OK
* Nov. 12 - Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center Arena
* Nov. 13 - Minneapolis, MN @ Target Center Arena
* [to be announced] - Chicago, IL @ All State Arena
* [to be announced] - East Rutherford, NJ - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Hartford, CT - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Wilkes-Barre, PA - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Worcester, MA - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Camden, NJ - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Detroit, MI - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Cincinnati, OH - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Nashville, TN - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Indianapolis, IN - [to be announced]
* [to be announced] - Denver, CO - [to be announced]

More dates, cities and venue information to be announced very soon.

Great news!

30 cities all the way to new years eve... That's a massive US tour!  :peace:

 i know it doesnt say but new years eve in vegas sounds good fingers crossed for that :beer:

hello, cincinnati.

Damn right it does!!!

Finally !    Indianapolis    Probably do Nashville and Cincinnati.  Have to see which ones are on the weekend.  That work thing gets in the way.   Can't wait to get an official announcement.

I'll probably do 2 of the 3 between Cinci, Indianapolis and Detroit depending on dates. 

Wow... No Buffalo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Toronto...

All the places I could have made a trip :(

Press release says 30 cities.. 21 are known so far.

True... I'm thinking those will be west coast tho

With the holiday's in this time frame, maybe the west coast will be afterwards.  Lots of places to tour.    Every day is getting more exciting !

Press release out on RollingStone, Gibson, Ultimate Classic Rock etc..

Not on any of GN'R's own outlets though.

Cincinnati, here I come!!  : ok: : ok: : ok: : ok:

It's official.

And for anyone wondering... :)

Guns N? Roses are Axl Rose, DJ Ashba (guitar), Dizzy Reed (keyboards), Tommy Stinson (bass), Richard Fortus (guitar), Ron ?Bumblefoot? Thal (guitar), Chris Pitman (keyboards) and Frank Ferrer (drums).

Never doubted it was official, just pointed out some info...  ;)

They might wait until everything is confirmed.

Why Hartford TBA when on Ticketmaster? tics on sale tomorrow? & I"m going- I Hope!

Probably just a little delay in the system, maybe the press release was written a few days ago.

I don't think that is an "official" Gnr press release.....it looks like someone got a hold of a possible itinerary and ran with it.  :hihi:

Chicago was confirmed and onsale last week. :-*

I doubt serious publications would print it as a press release if that was the case.

sure they would....it started at Blabbermouth! Enough said. : ok:

YES!!! so psyched they are playing philly area.  :beer:

camden is basically a philly show - it's right over the bridge, minutes from downtown philly and the stadiums in south philly.

just e-mailed a bunch of people. hoping to get at least 8 friends there. if that schedule is accurate and in order, the camden show could be scheduled right around Thanksgiving. that Friday or Saturday would be so freakin sweet cause everyone is home and will be available to go. Sunday would kinda suck because the Eagles play the Pats at 4:15 at home that day (huge game and alot of people that would consider going to the concert, would be at that game or tied up with parties). keeping my fingers crossed it doesn't end up conflicting with anything like that.  

and for anyone wondering, the Susquehanna Bank Center is the venue in Camden. it sounds similar to the venue they are playing in Hartford. here's some details from wiki:

The Susquehanna Bank Center is an outdoor amphitheater/indoor theater complex in Camden, New Jersey, United States, on the Delaware River waterfront across from Philadelphia.
The year-round facility serves as a 25,000 capacity outdoor amphitheater during the summer months which features a lawn with video screens, computerized sound enhancement, and a clear view of the Philadelphia skyline, Delaware River, and the Benjamin Franklin Bridge to the northwest. In the fall and winter months, the Susquehanna Bank Center converts to a fully enclosed, climate-controlled, flexible-capacity theater for up to 7,000 people offering a variety of concerts, Broadway theatrical productions, and family entertainment.

The Susquehanna Bank Center is adjacent to the Battleship New Jersey, Wiggins Park, and the Adventure Aquarium.
 

Billboard, Pollstar, RollingStone, Gibson...

The news broke on these sites (among many others) within a matter of minutes. They all must have people scanning for GN'R news 24/7 then..  :hihi:

It says it will be a two and a half hour show to feature all their hits, sponsored by by Monster Energy. :)

believe what you want...it just doesn't look quite right to me. The cities flow together nicely but the timing of the "press release" seems premature which makes me wonder if it is official

Yeah, I couldn't help but think the same when I read it.  Not to mention it doesn't appear both here and on the GNR website.

i checked the official site about five minutes ago...did you guys know they have a new guitar player? a guy named ashba?

Does anyone in Detroit think this will be Auburn Hills?

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bumblefoot
http://www.revolvermag.com/news/guns-n-roses-announce-first-u-s-tour-in-five-years.html (http://www.revolvermag.com/news/guns-n-roses-announce-first-u-s-tour-in-five-years.html)

It's up on Monster Energy's website (tour sponsor)

http://www.monsterenergy.com/us/en/news-events/guns-nrsquo-roses-announce-first-us-tour-in-over-5-years/ (http://www.monsterenergy.com/us/en/news-events/guns-nrsquo-roses-announce-first-us-tour-in-over-5-years/)

Says: 30 Concerts
Very Good
Thanks

 :smoking:

This is the first time GNR have had a tour sponsor right. How does this work out in practice. I am assuming the money goes in GNR`s back pocket or is incorporated in the price of the ticket or built into the booking agent hiring the band. Great to see 30 dates to be fully announced soon.

Seems like a new batch of dates/venues will be revealed on Monday at 8am, at least details for the cities already known...




Live Nation says Guns N? Roses is coming to Omaha. However, we will have to wait until Monday morning to learn the details.

An announcement will be made at 8am Monday. More than two hours of the band?s classics will be part of the performance


http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/Guns_N_Roses_Coming__But_When_130452653.html?ref=653 (http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/Guns_N_Roses_Coming__But_When_130452653.html?ref=653)

"more than 30 concerts in the U.S. "!

so far 4 me- Atlanta,SC, Miami, Hartford- bring on more dates!! :beer:

Congratulations Friend

 :beer:

THANKS- i'M PUMPED!! :beer:

Real quick map of shows this far... I cut off Miami to get a better view

These are not exact locations of Venues, just where Google puts the city


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