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Title: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Spirit on December 12, 2010, 03:44:36 PM
From GN'R twitter:

@Mitophin there are several.. "the General" is probably most played before CD
3:46 AM Dec 11th via web in reply to Mitophin




Must say that was really surprising!  :o


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Spirit on December 12, 2010, 03:51:51 PM
Since they say "most played", I gather they are talking about this one..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gg_G1TEPLE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gg_G1TEPLE)


In 2006 I remember we were wondering where this piece of music was from, but never could figure out. I guess we might know why now..  :hihi:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: bangit on December 12, 2010, 03:52:17 PM
The concert intro sounds epic. If this is part of the song then that's promising!  : ok:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: cotis on December 12, 2010, 03:53:47 PM
Nice : ok:

Sounds like a sweet opener for the next CD release ;)


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Gavgnr on December 12, 2010, 04:12:29 PM
Something tells me a badass rockin riff follows that intro, it sounds amazing...



Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Boromir on December 12, 2010, 05:44:08 PM
In this video and the others uploaded by this user we can hear axl's in-ear monitor. We can hear Axl and the band talking to themselves as the show continues.... cool, i didn't know it was excisted.

Like in the begining of Shackler's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_57eSgdPxg


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Manets on December 12, 2010, 05:57:35 PM
Awesome.  :drool:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: axljungle on December 12, 2010, 06:00:22 PM
Here you can hear the European 2010 intro, awsome too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqeIBMuG4ow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqeIBMuG4ow)


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: gnr-4-ever on December 12, 2010, 06:04:47 PM
If I remember correctly Axl did say we did hear parts of "The General" somewhere but he said that before the 09/10 Tour.

We can't be sure what intro is "The General", but one thing's for sure - time will tell.  :)


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Nytunz on December 12, 2010, 06:10:40 PM
If I remember correctly Axl did say we did hear parts of "The General" somewhere but he said that before the 09/10 Tour.

We can't be sure what intro is "The General", but one thing's for sure - time will tell.  :)

i think they used that intro back in 2006 also?
It would be great if that was a part of a new song! Sounds amazing!


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: axljungle on December 12, 2010, 06:14:02 PM
Sounds as a very beatiful intro for an album  :peace:  :drool:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: fieldsy on December 12, 2010, 06:31:35 PM
wouldnt suprise me - parts of Prostitute was used during Axl's piano solo in 2002


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: ChiDem2010 on December 12, 2010, 06:45:51 PM
In this video and the others uploaded by this user we can hear axl's in-ear monitor. We can hear Axl and the band talking to themselves as the show continues.... cool, i didn't know it was excisted.

Like in the begining of Shackler's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_57eSgdPxg

Axl: "Ronald Reagan's in The Exorcist?"  :rofl:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Nytunz on December 12, 2010, 06:48:30 PM
In this video and the others uploaded by this user we can hear axl's in-ear monitor. We can hear Axl and the band talking to themselves as the show continues.... cool, i didn't know it was excisted.

Like in the begining of Shackler's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_57eSgdPxg

Axl: "Ronald Reagan's in The Exorcist?"  :rofl:

hehe, yeah.. i had to listen to that a couple of times! haha


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: One.In.A.Million on December 12, 2010, 06:55:52 PM
Well since this was posted on the official GN'R twitter I will share this piece of information.

A few years ago I emailed Chris Pitman asking about the origins of the intro music used on the 2006 tour. I even told him I had heard Robin Finck recommended it from a film, that was a rumour I had heard.

He confirmed to me that it was part of an unreleased GN'R song, and that I would notice it sometime in the future. He never told me what song, so it being The General is news to me as much as everyone else.

The reason why I never told anyone about this for 2 years is purely because it was something Chris told me privately in a response to my email. I hope Chris knows I kept this to myself, and the reason I am telling you guys now, is purely because of the official GN'R twitter post.

So yes, the intro is part of an unreleased GN'R song, and judging by the GN'R twitter, it's The General. I can't wait to hear this, I have always loved that intro since 2006.  :)


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: gunns1 on December 12, 2010, 07:49:01 PM
It sounds awfully similar to the Jaws theme, anyone else think so?


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Nytunz on December 12, 2010, 07:58:52 PM
It sounds awfully similar to the Jaws theme, anyone else think so?

well, the first 17 seconds of the Jaws theme sounds sounds a bit like the GnR intro. Specially the first few seconds, but after that, its quite different.


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: axlpwns on December 12, 2010, 08:48:55 PM
who knew sounds like a great song is on the way : ok:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Voodoochild on December 12, 2010, 09:19:24 PM
Also, the European leg had a different part of this intro (at least I belive its the same song, as I heard in one YouTube video the "new one" leading to this "old one"). :)

Edit: Im on my iPhone so I couldnt get the actual link because it was embeded, but check the Chinese Democracy video on this (always awesome) blog and listen to the different part of the intro I mentioned:

http://gnrworld.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/zurich-switzerland-hallenstadion-set-list-pictures-videos/


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Rockin' Rose on December 13, 2010, 04:00:27 AM
If I remember correctly Axl did say we did hear parts of "The General" somewhere but he said that before the 09/10 Tour.

We can't be sure what intro is "The General", but one thing's for sure - time will tell.  :)

i think they used that intro back in 2006 also?
It would be great if that was a part of a new song! Sounds amazing!

They did, with the searchlights sweeping around the audience, that was so cool.


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: gnr-4-ever on December 13, 2010, 04:21:18 AM
So are we talking about this intro?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua9ZQ434apw


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Halo69 on December 13, 2010, 08:22:21 AM
we have a great song coming our way  :P


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: HBK on December 13, 2010, 09:29:14 AM
In this video and the others uploaded by this user we can hear axl's in-ear monitor. We can hear Axl and the band talking to themselves as the show continues.... cool, i didn't know it was excisted.

Like in the begining of Shackler's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_57eSgdPxg

Axl: "Ronald Reagan's in The Exorcist?"  :rofl:

AmAZING

 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Brundle25 on December 13, 2010, 09:38:24 AM
Well since this was posted on the official GN'R twitter I will share this piece of information.

A few years ago I emailed Chris Pitman asking about the origins of the intro music used on the 2006 tour. I even told him I had heard Robin Finck recommended it from a film, that was a rumour I had heard.

He confirmed to me that it was part of an unreleased GN'R song, and that I would notice it sometime in the future. He never told me what song, so it being The General is news to me as much as everyone else.

The reason why I never told anyone about this for 2 years is purely because it was something Chris told me privately in a response to my email. I hope Chris knows I kept this to myself, and the reason I am telling you guys now, is purely because of the official GN'R twitter post.

So yes, the intro is part of an unreleased GN'R song, and judging by the GN'R twitter, it's The General. I can't wait to hear this, I have always loved that intro since 2006.  :)

Chris was asked on facebook about 'The General' and he mentioned that it was buried under the right arm of the sphinx along with 'Silkworms'. So lets not get hopes up.


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Spirit on December 13, 2010, 02:04:19 PM
Also, the European leg had a different part of this intro (at least I belive its the same song, as I heard in one YouTube video the "new one" leading to this "old one"). :)

Edit: Im on my iPhone so I couldnt get the actual link because it was embeded, but check the Chinese Democracy video on this (always awesome) blog and listen to the different part of the intro I mentioned:

http://gnrworld.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/zurich-switzerland-hallenstadion-set-list-pictures-videos/

Definitely sounds like parts of the same piece.


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: gnr-4-ever on December 13, 2010, 02:28:11 PM
http://www.4shared.com/audio/e2dZd0D6/01_Intro.html

This is the intro from Hungary 2006.


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Voodoochild on December 13, 2010, 03:41:37 PM
Also, the European leg had a different part of this intro (at least I belive its the same song, as I heard in one YouTube video the "new one" leading to this "old one"). :)

Edit: Im on my iPhone so I couldnt get the actual link because it was embeded, but check the Chinese Democracy video on this (always awesome) blog and listen to the different part of the intro I mentioned:

http://gnrworld.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/zurich-switzerland-hallenstadion-set-list-pictures-videos/

Definitely sounds like parts of the same piece.
Yeah, that leads me to think that this is not just an intro of the actual song, but more an arrangement (either made specially for the shows or just one of the orchestral layers). :)

==

http://www.4shared.com/audio/e2dZd0D6/01_Intro.html

This is the intro from Hungary 2006.
Great find, I was looking for it. Thank you! :)


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: GNRVahland on December 13, 2010, 05:16:49 PM
http://www.4shared.com/audio/e2dZd0D6/01_Intro.html

This is the intro from Hungary 2006.
Great find, I was looking for it. Thank you! :)

Great find indeed....any creative (wo)men around here who can use this track to make a rocker from this song...

I think it's great already...but a bit hard to imagine in what kinda direction this will go....

Anyone around who can make it a real GNR song ?  : ok:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: FunkyMonkey on December 13, 2010, 06:15:46 PM
"The General" Used as Live Intro for 4+ Years

"Leave Me Alone," "Seven," and "The General" could also feature on the new album. These three A-listed songs were worked on by Marco Beltrami, especially "Seven," which Marco deems as the best of the three songs. It has also been reported that Marco worked on a fourth track, "Thyme." However, this song was not worked on subsequent to Marco's work in October 2002. (Jeff Leeds)

Last year Brain had this song called "The General" that was really cool... (Dizzy Reed)

One of my favorite songs is this song called "The General, which is ... by far the heaviest metal tune I think ive ever heard Axl do, this slow, grinding riff with these high, piercing vocals, screaming vocals. [Axl] goes, "well, this comes out on the third record. It relates to this song, it's a trilogy, this goes with this lyrically." (Sebastian Bach)

[Sebastian Bach] says Rose told him that a slow, grinding track called "The General" is the sequel to "Estranged," that goes to the parable that Del James wrote of the trilogy. (Rolling Stone)

CD.COM: Could you tells us more about "The General"?

Axl Rose: You may have heard parts of it somewhere.

http://chinese-democracy.blogspot.com/2010/12/general-used-as-live-intro-for-4-years_13.html



Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: gunns1 on December 13, 2010, 11:29:40 PM
it sounds quiet dark and eerie , I love it.


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: w.david rose on December 14, 2010, 02:16:55 AM
What a mystery


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: sworrm on December 14, 2010, 02:45:35 AM
i love it when we are getting teased now and again, it reminds me of when we were waiting for chinese demo.
i hope we dont get teased for to long this time


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: One.In.A.Million on December 14, 2010, 12:25:50 PM
I too love this piece of music, I couldn't believe it when Chris told me it was an actual GN'R song. I think people are on the right track, the intro music that has been prominently played during the recent tours. Is the same piece that was played in 2006, but maybe it's from a different point in the track.

I love this and can't wait to hear it.  ;D

I just had to chuckle to myself because at the Manchester show I was expecting this to be the intro music. So the lights go out and Blue Moon is played by the Marcels.

Legendary.  :hihi:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: HBK on December 14, 2010, 05:25:42 PM
Maybe Intro Is

THE CAPTAIN

 :hihi:


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Nytunz on December 17, 2010, 10:08:48 AM
Here is the intro from Dubai

When talking about The General, intro n stuff..

I think this is a different intro from what we have heard before? Or is it the same as in the Australia show?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXJCMvZeXY&feature=player_embedded#!


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: One.In.A.Million on December 17, 2010, 10:34:23 AM
Here is the intro from Dubai

When talking about The General, intro n stuff..

I think this is a different intro from what we have heard before? Or is it the same as in the Australia show?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXJCMvZeXY&feature=player_embedded#!


Yes that is the intro we are talking about, many believe on this forum that it is from the same piece of music that the 2006 intro was from. So if this is an unreleased song, the 2006 intro and the 2010 intro are probably just different points in the song, but it is the same piece of music regardless I feel.


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Voodoochild on December 17, 2010, 10:35:59 AM
I wonder who did the orchestration - Marco Beltrami, Paul Buckmaster or even Pitman...

Edit: love the cheerful antecipation before DJ's guitar intro. It brings me a lot of memories. :)


Title: Re: "The General" used as intro in concert
Post by: Halo69 on December 20, 2010, 06:04:32 PM
Marco Beltrami i think!

And this is the actual intro i would say : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXJCMvZeXY

Not the 2006 intro.