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DUFF McKAGAN EXPLAINS SINGER SEARCH HOLD-UP

Velvet Revolver bassist Duff McKagan talked about what the hold up has been with the singer search for the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hxc8XNt7II

Blabbermouth.net has transcribed some of the interview:

DUFF MCKAGAN: New VELVET REVOLVER Singer Has To Be Better Than SCOTT WEILAND - Nov. 23, 2010

In a new interview with Artisan News Service, VELVET REVOLVER bassist Duff McKagan talked about what the hold-up has been with regards to the search for the right replacement for departed frontman Scott Weiland.

"VELVET REVOLVER is not done, we're not finished, and I don't think we've made our best record yet," he said. "We'll tour again, we'll find the guy."

He added, "It's one of those things, if you concern yourself with it [too much, it starts to work against you] because there's a not to pool from out there ? for our particualr band. There's some great talent ? we've heard some really, really good guys ? but to get all of us to agree on what that? I don't know if the guy that all four of us want is ever gonna exist, but we've gotta get close."

Regarding a possible replacement for Weiland, McKagan said, "It's gotta be better than it was; it's gotta be as good, at least. And for us, it's gotta be better. And Scott is an amazing vocalist and frontman, so it's gotta be as good or better than that. We can't [step down a notch]."

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=149866

Blabbermouth is turning into TMZ with their headlines. They make you think he insulted Scott and he clearly did not.

Their headline is a quote from Duff:

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Might as well call it a day gentlemen.

there are maybe 5 singers/frontmen alive right now in the whole world better than Scott.

So just let this shit die already.

Someone unknown could also be better that Scott, you just wouldn't have heard of him. Although if they do find someone like that, it's going to be only by pure luck. It's unlikely VR will resume anytime soon...

I dunno, it seems pretty obvious that Slash wanted Myles in VR, but others didn't agree, and that's why Slash is planning his next solo album with him as the lone vocalist.

i used to love VR but to be honest, Im far more excited about a Slash and Myles album!  Fuckin love Myles.

Am i right in saying that Slash said the album could be out next year?

I'm not sure I'm looking forward to it. I was kind of hoping he would do a Slash II, with more artists, especially those that he couldn't get the first time around, like Tyler.

Well, I think Slash mentioned he was already writing, both on his own and with Myles, and with them touring together next year, I'm sure the material could come together quickly.
Slash should just take his while live touring band into the studio next time, they definitely have great chemistry together.

One could surmise that Duff meant the chemistry in the band needs to be as good or better with the new singer as it was with Scott.  That's not a knock on Scott's skills per se.  The Blabbermouth headline insinuates that Duff is trying to "one up" Scott, but that isn't the case when you actually read Duff's words in context.  It's a misleading headline no doubt.

I think he got pissed off with all the legal shit that they had to get through.  Thats probably why he isn't in a hurry to go down that route again.

The best response to that is to quote your own post:





/jarmo

I think if Myles weren't in Alter Bridge maybe he would be the choice, since he's handling all the vocals on the Slash album, and Matt Sorum had originally suggested him-I really never paid much attention to him until the clips of him singing with Slash-he is great.

Name 5 frontmen ALIVE right now better than Scott Weiland? I can't think of 5.

I don't know how I feel about the all Myles solo album... I kinda worry that maybe I will just like Myles in small doses. We will see though.I liked the concerts but then again, he was singing mostly big hits i love. so we will see about a full album. I am not an Alter Bridge fan though. weird.


I just don't see VR finding that guy. Cause honestly, it is like this. If you were an amazing elite, great frontman, WHY would you join Velvet Revolver? no offense but it would be as close to career suicide as you could get. Look at guys like John Corabi that joined Motley Crue for one album.. now would Corabi have had any type of career? Maybe, maybe not, but once u take that Motley Crue job, u are tainted for life cause Vince Neil will always be the singer for Motley Crue. So u then become Ex Motley Crue singer and people no longer take u as serious as before.

same here. U are following the greatest frontman of all time and at least a top 25, and a top 10 since 1990...... I wouldn't wanna step into that shit. Unless my goal was to make a few bucks and that be that.

if u are a top 5 rock n roll frontman, undiscovered or not, u still have better chances persevering on your own and making a name for yourself.

I can probably name about 100 living frontmen who I personally think are better than Scott myself. But that number goes down to about zero if you mean frontmen better than Scott and available.

Well, u gotta take personal feeling/opinion out of it.

 If u go by what they have done combined with their overall skill set etc

Lenny was mentioned as an posible singer but fast denied.
Steven tyler was mentioned
Myles kennedy
Todd Kerns
Axl Rose (Don't hate me)
Kurt Cobain (dead or not hell of a frontman!)

Mike Patton was mentioned a couple of months ago. But Slash shot that down with super human speed. :)

I think money has to be an issue in that too. Slash paid for that album to made himself and I doubt people like Fergie or Ozzy came cheap. Tyler would be very expensive.

I doubt they have a fixed fee as such. It will be operating expenses plus a cut from the sales of the song. Ergo, with big names, the album might sell better, leading to profits all around.

LOL

Kurt was a terrible singer.

But a fantastic frontman. Not everyone could be so mesmerising whilst standing still... that takes something special.

The voice of a generation.  Kurt was so far beyond a musician, he is on the level of Henrdrix, Morrison etc... talking about or analyzing his musical ability is almost funny considering how influential a person he was.  Much more than a front man.  Dude changed the world.

You did an honors thesis on grunge and came to the conclusion that Pearl Jam was better and more real than Nirvana?  Did you actually listen to any of the music?   :hihi:

i dont personaly like myles that much but i love how fergie sings in beautiful dangerous and i think that her voice could fit really well in old vr songs...... so for me she should quite black eyed peas and start singin big machine!

I know they said they wanted to get heavier with the new record, which i totally encourage.  Corey Taylor was rumored a while back, maybe they should drop the VR name and work on a project with him...

Kurt was awesome but alot of Nirvana songs are to hard to listen to now.. only Nevermind and unplugged and other singles are worth listening too.. I like Pearl jam alot but nirvana were HUGE FAST.      Back on TOPIC...
I really think Scott has got one of the best voices around in ROCk today and it will be verry hard to find someone better than scott, its a shame scots so fucked up with drugs..  :peace:

 hope u didn't get an A on that dude.

Kurt wasn't real? Fuckin guy blew his head off....... It doesn't get much more real than that. Eddie is still alive and and doing great.

 I think Kurt was one of the realest dudes of all time. Overrated? Sure a little, but u can't say the guy wasn't authentic and the real thing.

Reel it in guys, head to Bad Obsession if ya wanna talk Cobain/Nirvana.

Thanks

Weiland is one of the Top 20 living frontmen. Definitely Top 5 of his time( being 1980s to now.) He's lived through stuff that has killed other people(knocks on wood). He has an amazing catalog of music, and an image and aura that other singers wish they had.   VR was great, but their time has passed.   I wish they would just lay it to rest, and maybe resurrect it later instead of trying hold onto it and save face.  Slash doesn't even need VR either.  He has a solid career with Myles touring and playing all his songs.   Duff is also very active.

Seriously who is a better singer/frontman than Weiland that is ALIVE?  Only ones I can think of are: Mick Jagger, Robert Plant, Neil Young, David Bowie, Lou Reed, and maybe a few others.   And these people are all from an earlier time.  Singers of the last 25 years... I can hardly think of any.   Only a couple that I would consider equal like Josh Homme or Axl.

ha. I did get an A actually!! PM if you want to read, I address all these issues. Watch PJ Black @ Pinkpop vs Any Nirvana performance. Kurt got lost in the image he created, and lost any remnants of authenticity when he became famous. And, anyway, he never used his music like Eddie did; moulded around an emotional outlet - see youtube vid of Black at PinkPop. Kurt just wrote angry music within pop conventions; which is why it is so much more popular, but also so much less authentic. So much literature on this shit.

Sorry Falcon, i'm done now!

As much as you people keep talking down VR, I seriously think a frontman is coming soon. They've promised way too many times for them not to actually intend to find one. They'd be way more vague about it. The singer of my b and just sent in an audition tape:P

Eddie Vedder and Steven Tyler are two glaringly obvious ones you've missed. Corey Taylor is another who is miles ahead of Weiland.

I'll agree with you on Tyler, but not on Eddie Vedder or Corey Taylor.   I think Pearl Jam and Slipknot are way overrated, and I would put STP above them both.   Even Stone Sour, who might be popular at the moment still can't go album for album with STP.  But that's just my opinion.     

Wait a minute..... Corey Taylor over Scott.....

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I had to read that three times to make sure I wasn't seeing things.


and no, today, like right now, not going by career achievement awards, Scott is even better Than Tyler.

Goin by right now, as in TODAY, like i said, not career achievement awards, but just stacking up it today, Scott trails only Axl, maybe Bono *Although I don't like him* and he and Vedder are neck and neck although I prefer Scott.

The only frontman they could get right now better than Scott is Axl and that ain't happening.

You guys are all fucking nuts. What's with the frontman dick comparo? From a VR perspective, a frontman who's better than Scott would be someone who does not have substance abuse issues, has great pipes, can write songs around Slash / Duff / Dave's riffs (and come up with good independent songs), good stage presence and more importantly gets along well with everyone in terms of chemistry. That person could be anybody.

Looking at the synergy Slash has with someone like Andrew Stockdale, it could very well be someone younger and that no one's heard of. Actually, I think that would be better: Someone unknown, who was a fan of Guns growing up. At least that way the ego issues are much lesser than with one of the established frontmen. Finding such a person of course is the problem...

yeah corey over scott, better voice, better presence, and actually sings live and doesn't mime as scott was caught doing on the last STP tour.

Yeah I would definitely go with Corey over Scott, way more of a diverse singer as well.  Only counting bands that came out  a little before or after STP, i can think of a bunch of better front men. Axl Rose, Phil Anselmo, Corey Taylor, Gerard Way, M . Shadows, Zakk Wylde, Kurt Cobain, Marilyn Manson, Trent Reznor, are  first guys that come to mind.  I like Scott Weiland too, Im not even trying to bash him, but all of those guys are better.   

 :confused: ... ;D

And I'm not trying to suck Scott off, either, but I think he is better than all of the people you mentioned (except Kurt...and Axl  ;) ) 

And so you don't think I'm a totally biased, Scott can obviously be a drunk and has fucked up shows, and can be too eccentric at times, and is not even what he was 5 or 10 years ago, but I think even with all that, he is still one of the best.  He has an aura that none of these singers have.  I just think there are a lot of ppl who just try to discredit Scott which is bullshit. 

I edited this to not bash any of the singers mentioned.