Here Today... Gone To Hell!

YOU can't teach an old dog new tricks - or GUNS N' ROSES for that matter.
The veteran rockers face a hefty fine after breaking two 11pm concert curfews.

They are notorious for shocking timekeeping and, true to form, overran with both their shows at the O2 arena in London this week - by a total of three hours.

LADY GAGA was the last star to break her 11pm curfew at the venue, by 25 mintues last February. She was in line for a ?10,000 fine for the privilege - which worked out at ?400 a minute.

By that calculation, Guns N' Roses could now be hit for ?72,000.

An O2 spokesman confirmed that the promoters would incur a cost for the late finishes.

The venue was also forced to put on extra transport for fans after 20,000 concert-goers missed the last Tube home.

But it was a small price to pay for the surprise appearance onstage of original band member DUFF McKAGAN.

The bass guitarist joined frontman AXL ROSE for four hits, fuelling rumours of a reunion between the band that made debut album Appetite For Destruction.

An all-star line-up might be sooner than we think - Axl will need the extra cash if he continues to play past his bedtime.



http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/3182753/Overruns-and-Roses-fined.html

England is pathetic with its bloody curfews.

I want to move...  :-\

1440 peoples fee to pay the fine, Oh well the other 28,560+ fees still get pocketed, was it worth it?

too right mate..... all these new european laws are coming over, but we still have our old fashioned cerfews  :rant:

After THAT show all the English can think of is reunions and fines?

Fuck, your press is sure not worth any interview or getting even close to any GN'R member.

I'm glad I didn't buy any fuckin paper here to check about the show... FUCK OFF UK PRESS...

Silly people... next time program the band at 2 in the afternoon or something and bring your sandwiches for picnic !
Anyhow it's getting worse all over Europe... Myself I'm a sound engineer from Bruges and you don't even wanna know the shit we get to deal with here... curfews, sound level limits, authorities measuring at 1m from the front of house speakers and mix position and so and on... party by permit...

Nice boy's don't play Rock N' Roll !

On the next album will be a new song : So fine - part 2 AKA So fined :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5aSFUy-8Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5aSFUy-8Q)

Fucking agreed.

The sun is a piece of shit rag that I wouldn't wipe my arse on.

Why does the o2 have a curfew of 11pm when it's own website says the last entrance is 1am? why did they put on extra transport etc?

What a bunch of shit.

I am so damn sick of these curfews!! It's bullshit. These shows bring money to these communities. They should be happy for it!! I know they are enforced pretty much all over the world but come on!! Unless the venue is in a housing area what the hell is the freaking difference?

oh cock :P

Ok first of all it says he will need the cash to play past his bedtime; Axl's bedtime is in the wee hours of the morning if i'm not mistaken.   :hihi:

Christos - it's the English press at its finest.

Shameful. Not worth the toilet paper it is printed on.

The English press is one of the worst in the World so nothing new with this story.

If they can't make something up they write crap like curfews or whatever. ::)

"An all-star line-up might be sooner than we think - Axl will need the extra cash if he continues to play past his bedtime."

Yeah right or he might wont play in the UK again......


The Health and Safety Executive has spoken ;D

Utter Bullsh**

Wondering how much DJ is gonna get fined for smoking on stage...........

Besides in normal countries public transport runs 24 hours and thats not only busses!

take it with a pinch of salt don`t you remember in 2006 the sun reported Axl was late on because he was eating a roast dinner!!

I can't believe the way the press are making out the band playing a long set is a bad thing!!
Maybe in Birmingham at about 11pm Axl could say goodnight to all the press as it's past their bedtime or get the crowd to sing "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey Goodbye!"

The London shows were amazing. I remember saying after the first show that you'd be hard pushed to say anything negative about the actual show, they started at a good time, they played a long set, great mix of songs, performed awesome, crowd absolutely loved it and stayed until the end.....but the reviews go on about Reading festival, exagerate start times, curfews, time making Chin Dem...etc......you might get a paragraph about the actual music/show if you're lucky and that says the opposite to what a sell out crowd thinks!

Great concert, nobody got hurt, generated some extra work and overtime pay.  Guess the band is going to just have to keep having a great time out on the road to come up with the fine money.  Where's the negative?

When you read the O2 statement on Tuesday about working with TfL and the late shows the band is reputed to have IN ADVANCE of the show. It seems to me they were not only expecting a late start, were prepared for it AND were happy to go along with it, not once but two nights running. 

As mention above by RainFox, the English press at its finest. Had Axl for instance done a few interviews with the press beforehand, they'd be where Slash is, up his ass - saying what a great show they put on. They love media whores, Axl don't play the game so are out to get him... Didn't he sing about that once  :hihi:

Curfews are put in place to maintain order..With large crowds, large crowd control is needed N' scheduled..Extra means o' transportation is also needed to accomadate larger than usual crowds..
We in the US have curfews as well. A few years back Rachel Bolan N' Snake Sabo were on Eddie Trunks show talking about touring w/ GN'R in 1991 N' how they were paying fines on a regular basis.

The press might be harsh but you gotta admit all this late night playing causes a major inconvenience getting back home etc it would be so much nicer to see the whole show and get back home in time

FFS! EVERYBODY knows about Axl-time, if you buy a ticket to show and it don't fit in with your plans tough.  We've waited 4 years to see 'em do their own show in the UK, me and thousands like me set our watches to Axl time (ie we took the hands off) and went with it. Work or no work, those few hours of pure unadulterated Gnf'R's pleasure were worth every second of any hassle that came about because of the time they started (btw which started and finished at more than acceptable times....)

I know I'll never have back those 2hr 40 minutes and the time to and from the venue that I gave up to see my favourite band ever, but do you know what, I'd happily relive that time many times over such was the quality and quantity of what we saw that night. 

I had this very same argument with my girlfriend after the Arnhem concert (though that wasn't very late). Simple fact is, Axl's going to go on stage when he is good and ready. Always has, always will. The press always wants something negative to 'sensationalise' their articles because they think more people will read or watch them that way, as if the facts aren't interesting enough. Quite frankly when their biggest complaint is Axl's alleged lateness, it must mean that everything else is working pretty fuckin well and the excellent youtube clips (and my own concert experience) confirms that. Guns are absolutely on fire at the moment. I can't wait to see them again in December in Sydney!!! I'm seeing Metallica this Tuesday (with a free ticket of course, paid for by others...) and it's going to be interesting comparing the two shows...

 But back to Axl, At least he doesn't make any pretence about it. He simply goes on stage when he is ready to perform and everything else is ready to go.

Generally shows have run late because they play for so long, moreso than delays in start time, so be prepared for it. If a long running rock show is too 'inconvenient' for you, don't go. No-one's forcing you...

I saw them at the NEC in 2006 and it ended right on time, couldn't have been happier with the performance it was great.  So why can't they stick to it?  just think of how much hassle it causes the fans travelling wise!  Nearly every gig i've ever been to has finished before 12am

I wanted to go!! Otherwise I wouldn't have spent ?50 on a ticket, but i feel I have paid for something which I can't see the whole of, it says on the tickets the starting time and curfew of 11pm so I feel rather mislead.  I will be disappointed if I have to walk away during the end bit of their set but that will make me reach the decision of not going to future shows.

Personally Axl being late didn't bother me, but then I drove to the concert and only live 13 minutes away. But I can see why people had to leave early. Of course when the contract was signed, GNR must have agreed to the curfew deadline, and would have been well aware of being fined for it- seems to just be part of the territory for Axl.

Of course, Sunday curfews tend to be an hour earlier, so who knows what'll happen tonight!

It's not like GNR don't have the money to play through the curfews every night.

Yes but the money that is earned by the management from the concerts lose out on a great lot so they are suffering the most

No they don't, the band pay the fine, the only (financial) losers are the band themselves and they clearly are cool with that or they'd find the ahem, will, to play along with the the expectations of of the suits and not put on a Rock n Roll show  : ok:

I've never been at a gig ending BEFORE 12 am. I cant believe people just cant deal with a late party like that - what those people do when they come to a regular party or just a pub/bar/night club?

I went to lots of gigs in Europe I remember a Metallica concert finished just after 1am.
As well as Boxing events for example just last nights WBC boxing with Klitschko vs Briggs started at 11pm! I know this is not as loud as a music concert but has the same if not other implications. Maybe thats why there are so many boxing events outside the UK.

BTW I know its off topic but that was a nice fight just waiting to see one of them punch the S*** out of that bigmouth t*** Haye.

I've no doubt you did, all I'm saying is that IF you go to a guns show, there is a strong possibility it will run late. Take that into account or not, but don't go around whinging about it, because even the mainstream press have talked about it...

It's hardly a surprise...

11pm Curfew? How can that be? I went to the o2 ages ago to see David Haye fight, it didnt start till 2am (finished at about 2:08 after he knocked the guy out in the second round)!! The bars shut at 12 but they were still pumping music out until the bell went! I've also been unfortunate enough to go a shitty nightclub there where i staggered out at 5am, how can a show be any different?

Well they are not bloodfans like us! Give them some slack :P

The generic public don't know so much about gnr beside Axl Rose, drama, Slash, a blonde guy called Duff, the hits like Scom, WTTJ, NR and so on. So when they hear the name, thats sadly the reference they have to GNR. There hasn't been videos made for CD, and not so many songs gotten exstensive radioplay (or similar exposure) beside TIL I guess, and Shackler on guitarhero.

It's a bit disrespectfull but there it is. Nostalgia.

But when they see the band and the AMAZING Axl-performance it's forgotten for most.

Has he ever sounded this good?

You shouldn't trust what The Sun says..




/jarmo

At a guess the 1am last entry is for all the other stuff that's in the same 'building' like the cinema, nightclub, resturants and bars. For whatever reason all that stuff is allowed to run later than live gigs. (Probably because it's officially quieter.)

Most of the time I prefer to skip the issue and book a hotel room nearby. Even when I don't expect the show to overrun and I could get home easily the last thing I want to do when I get out of a gig is deal with trains and the 20 minute walk from the nearest station to my house.

Understatement of the year. There is only one page in the Sun that's worth "reading" and even that's only good for about 50% of the population.