Here Today... Gone To Hell!

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I happy friends... Cynthia Rose Gunner & Caba Rose

 :beer:

01 - Intro
02 - Chinese Democracy
03 - Welcome To The Jungle
04 - It's So Easy
05 - Mr. Brownstone
06 - Sorry
07 - Better
08 - Solo de guitarra de Richard Fortus (James Bond Theme)
09 - Live And Let Die
10 - If The World
11 - Rocket Queen
12 - Solo de piano de Dizzy Reed
13 - Street Of Dreams
14 - You Could Be Mine
15 - Solo de guitarra de DJ Ashba (The Ballad Of Death)
16 - Sweet Child O' Mine
17 - Improvisaci?n instrumental (Another Brick In The Wall)
18 - Solo de piano de Axl (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road/Someone Saved My Life Tonight)
19 - November Rain
20 - Solo de guitarra de Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal (Pink Panther Theme)
21 - Don't Cry
22 - Out Ta Get Me
23 - Knockin' On Heaven's Door
24 ? Nightrain
(Encore)
25 - Madagascar
26 - Whole Lotta Rosie
27 ? Jam instrumental (Por Una Cabeza)
28 - Patience
29 - Paradise City

Axl is already in Baires?

Yes.

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The biggest show on sa part of tour...have a good time

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Axl loves Buenos Aires he says this before in fact he was here a couple days in 2001 before the rock and rio.  ;D

Wow, Axl and Fernando look as cool as ever.

Good to see some fans getting their moment with Axl. I bet Axl was humbled by the fan who had them tattoos, shows their loyalty and desire.  :love:


Lee

The time of teaching the world how a crowd should be and should act in a rock concert has just come.

Expect a frenzy. A battle camp. Impressed by Uruguay, Brazil, Chile...? you just have not seen anything.

there's someone in Buenos Aires available to do a livestream?

Is it true argentinians rock harder than any other fans in the world?

these tattoos are pretty sad sight.
only thing lamer would be if it was on a guy wearing a stormtrooper outfit.

Just see the Iron man 2 trailer of acdc.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kD8sxIjVuc

yes I think Argentinians rock harder in concerts than anywhere else, I've seen some vids in youtube from ac/dc lately and It was mind blowing : ok:

haha that vid above is what i'm talking about ..just awesome! :D

I guess Xozi will be there. She's been waiting on his one for over a decade.

Updates will be here tomorrow from the show FOR ME: http://dailybetter.com.ar/forum/index.php 

:beer:

sorry, but can a mod edit the title of this thread? What the fuck is ''baires''?

My suggestion:

2010-03-22 Estadio Jos? Amalfitani, Club Atl?tico Velez Sarsfield - Buenos Aires, Argentina (if fits, i tested it)

Yes... +1

too long ..it's just updates in my opinion.

ok, not a big deal, but if they play in Santiago De Chile its not nice too see ''sango'' or something like that. Just put Buenos Aires, as it actually is.

 ;D  :hihi:   "stgo"

you're right, Buenos Aires should be  : ok:

Awesome  : ok:

Can anybody else see that the signature is gonna get inked.... what a present : ok:

Caro Salinas Travel To Baires

 : ok:

Definitely no. Chileans fan do Rock!!

Dilema-wash or not to wash!?! :confused:

Updates here

http://twitter.com/rollingstonear


And here Streaming:
http://www.tn.com.ar/  (major channel news from Argentina)

All day LIVE footage outside the stadium

we're gonna make chilean fans seem like babies in a playground.

there could have been some bushes and tall trees in Santiago, but the real jungle is Buenos Aires. Remember my words.

going to the stadium in 2 hours. my heart is beating real fast. this didnt happen to me in my 2 previous shows.

its gonna be a long day today  :peace:

sweet...go get'em "tiger".... : ok:

Either way, there is no question that the South American gunners are the craziest Gnr fans in the world....hands down. ;)

 :beer: Argentina show today!!!!  :beer:

Today.... the wildest crowd in the world ;)

Show time:

Local band: MASSACRE - 6.30 pm.
Local band: MANCHA DE ROLANDO - 7.10 pm.
SEBASTIAN BACH - 8:00 pm.
GUNS N?ROSES - 9:15 pm. We'll see if Axl can get on time. Hehe. You can do it Axl!  :-*   

Good luck to all fans of Arg.

 :beer:

Thanks!!!!  ;D

Madre de Dios.  Anything in English hombre?

No streaming of the actual show? That'd be cool!

No :'(

I haven't been going out of my way to watch updates this tour due to restrictions in my real life (outside of the computer).  I might try to stay up for this one though ;D

Try to make it, it's going to be worth it! Argentinean fans rock, Dj posted this on FB a while ago:

Dj ASHBA? I keep hearing that the crowd in Argentina is gonna blow my mind! Were playing to over 40,000 passionate, music lovin' crazy-ass motherf%^rs tonight! I can hardly sleep, I'm so excited about the concert!! I think I should charge up my video camera and document this!!

UPDATE: Open doors!!

Updates Here from me: http://dailybetter.com.ar/forum/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=1189&p=13972&sid=7a3f9303ac7d688757efe3d7d745efd2#p13972

For those of you who understand Spanish...

http://www.tn.com.ar/2010/03/22/espectaculos/02164931.html

Just a review of the previous shows before the one in Baires

Bach plays for like an hour, right? If so this schedule won't work ;)

In Santiago, Bach played for like 1hr.25min.

Just finished MANCHA DE ROLANDO

Playing Mancha... Pics here: twitter.com/marianogav

Is this an outdoor venue?

Yes, it's a stadium.

Rock n' Roll  : ok:

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Updates will be there: http://twitter.com/RollingStoneAr

Bach is half way and the press says there's a 10 block line up of people, some even without a ticket! They are calculating at least a delay of one hour.

Baz is playign a song from his upcoming Album

Bach playing new song the next disc

Carolina Salinas B.   Caro_Salinas
 
I remember you ♥ 8 minutes ago via UberTwitter

Bach Just finished.

Im uploading photos on my facebook: Guillermo Hernan Vallejos... If u want add to me

I can imagine hearing the "Argentina" chants now led by Frank's kick drum  ;D

First pic from manteca (Guillermo ;-) Bach on scene, check out the stage!

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People is getting impatient! Ja

Intro
Chinese Democracy
From  RollingStoneAr
 
"chinese Democracy" y otra larga espera #gunsnrosesArgentina Fuegos artificiales, Axl con sombrero negro

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the jungle

It's So Easy

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone

Mr. Brownstone

Any more pics floating around?

Sorry
Better

RollingStoneAr    Sorry, la primer balada y Better, marcaron el primer cambio de Axl, ahora con camisa rosa #gunsnrosesArgentina

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better

Richard Fortus [Guitar Solo] (James Bond Theme)

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Richard Fortus guitar solo

01-Intro
02-Chinese Democracy
03-Welcome to the jungle
04-It's So Easy
05-Mr. Brownstone
06-Sorry
07-Better
08-Richard Fortus [Guitar Solo] (James Bond Theme)
09-Live And Let Die

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Richard Fortus guitar solo
Live And Let Die

Stream ? http://qik.com/video/5636549

There are riots .. link here http://www.tn.com.ar/vivo/playerFF.html , Some people burned a tree

If The World

why why WHY do people do things like this???  People who do things like this will make it so GNR will think twice before going back there :(  And that sucks for the other fans!

Its people who are trying to get in with either fake or no ticket at all.. it really blows

Quejas por el sonido en la popular. No se escucha? #gunsnrosesArgentina

I hate being a dumb american lol I will learn another language, by osmosis!

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Richard Fortus guitar solo
Live And Let Die
If The World

Complaints about the sound on one of the sectors

I'm watching that TN VIVO stream http://www.tn.com.ar/vivo/playerFF.html (http://www.tn.com.ar/vivo/playerFF.html).  No sound (wouldn't understand it) and can't read what it says....but I see riot police coming out :S Maybe I SHOULDN'T watch the stream lol

I hope everything goes ok :(  I can't watch til the end, gotta work tomorrow. 

Buenos Aires, have fun and don't hurt each other!!

Thay are mentioning that things have calmed  down more now that the police are there in force, they mentioned that a tree was burned but no injuries reported
everything is going well inside

Thank you, sir!! You have calmed my mind before I go to sleep  :yes: ;D

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams

HA! who was saying that the argentinian ppl were wild?
They are throwing shit at stage and Axl had to stop for the 2nd time to get a translator to tell the audience TO STOP THROWING SHITS!!
Right now is Street Of Dreams...

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine

The show has been going on for over an hour now and somebody in the GNR camp just twittered this a few minutes ago  :hihi:

gunsnroses    Guns N Roses LIVE #nowplaying here in Buenos Aires, Argentina at Estadio Velez Sarsfield! #gunsnroses #gnr
7 minutes ago via web

 RollingStoneAr
  
You could be mine, la fiesta sigue con fuego sobre el escenario y Axl motivado a pesar de la amenaza de suspension #gunsnrosesArgentina

"You Could Be mine, The party continues with fire ont he stage and Axl is motivated not matter de threat of leaving he made"

Bogota Will be insane  : ok:

Nope! At least here we will have just 15000 ppl and only GNR hardcore fans, not just bunch of assholes trying to fuck up a show!!
That's why we are going to get as soon as we can all the 1st row just to be able to kick anyone ass who try to throw any shit!
Fuck heads, it's just a fucking show not a goddamn war!

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine

RollingStoneAr    Ovacion. Another brick in the wall. Sigue #gunsnrosesArgentina

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine
Another brick in the wall

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine
Another brick in the wall
Axl piano solo

Insane = Fucking awesome, That's what I meant

RollingStoneAr    November rain y uno de los momentos mas esperados y coreados #gunsnrosesArgentina

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine
Another brick in the wall
Axl piano solo
November rain

November Rain is in its outro right now!!

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine
Another brick in the wall
Axl piano solo
November rain
Bumblefoot guitar solo

Dont Cry

RollingStoneAr    Dont you cry sorprende en la lista y marca otro momento coreado #gunsnrosesArgentina

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine
Another brick in the wall
Axl piano solo
November rain
Bumblefoot guitar solo
Don't Cry!!

Is it just part of Ron's solo or is Axl singing it too?



No offense to Ron by saying "just"

Im not sure But I think it was everyone

Man, I love the enthusiasm of the South American crowds.  They're full of energy.  BUT, there seem to be a fair amount of idiots throwing shit onto the stage at multiple shows, and that is not cool. 

I guess when you play for huge crowds like that though, you're gonna get a few assholes in the crowd.  It's bound to happen.  Just hope they don't ruin it for the true fans who showed up to have a great time and to rock out!

Knockin On Heaven's Door

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine
Another brick in the wall
Axl piano solo
November rain
Bumblefoot guitar solo
Don't Cry!!
Knockin On Heaven's Door

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine
Another brick in the wall
Axl piano solo
November rain
Bumblefoot guitar solo
Don't Cry!!
Knockin On Heaven's Door
Whole Lotta Rosie

Finished? :confused:

Did we get disconnected from the person sending the updates?? or is GNR going for the Guinness World Record for playing Whole Lotta Rosie?

31 minutes since the last update of RollingStoneAr twitter, probably the only source of the updates..

i don't know  :'(

I think so, on someone's twitter they said Paradise City, that was about 25-30 minutes after the Rosie update so obviously they played other stuff in between.

Where is RollingStone Ar.? (twitter:rofl:

damn! we should give Jarmo a celphone

Thanks to GabrielRoses and everyone else who posted the available updates here for us!!!  :beer:

thank u very fuckin' much!!!  : ok: :beer:

Excellent!!!!!

Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine
Another brick in the wall
Axl piano solo
November rain
Bumblefoot guitar solo
Don't Cry!!
Knockin On Heaven's Door
Whole Lotta Rosie

Encore:
Madagascar
Por una cabeza (a small part of tango, according to Mariano user GNRLa)
Patience
Paradise city

OR

Nightrain, patience, Paradise City , show end

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bye peoples !!!! :beer: : ok:

I will upload all the videos i got & share with you people :)

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Great fuckin' picture! : ok:

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Intro
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Sorry
Better
Fortus Solo
Live And Let Die
If The World
Dizzy Solo
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Dj guitar solo
Sweet Child o Mine
Another brick in the wall
Axl piano solo
November rain
Bumblefoot guitar solo
Don't Cry!!
Knockin On Heaven's Door
Whole Lotta Rosie
Nightrain

Encore:
Madagascar
Por una cabeza (a small part of tango, according to Mariano user GNRLa)
Patience
Paradise city

The show was GREAT sadly sound problems at the beginning we cannot heard axl half of the show. :-\

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Mariano i was just to you side.  ;D

Axl should come back to Argentina. His mic was too low!!!! Axl, please, come back!!!!! :'(

Welcome to the jungle

http://www.tn.com.ar/2010/03/23/espectaculos/02165445.htm

A big applause for the song: Por una cabeza!!!! :peace:

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http://www.rollingstone.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1246515

the best show of my life, axl is better than ever, and the band is perfect, ........ god what a show!! thanks AXL ..

Wow, what has Axl been taking??? He's mysteriously aging backwards lately, he looks like he did back in 1992!

Nice...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMx9pkCqOmI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMx9pkCqOmI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMx9pkCqOmI (ftp://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMx9pkCqOmI)

Don't Cry

Did they played the full version of dont cry? with the full band and everything?

sorry , im at work and i cant get into youtube to see the videos..

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WOW! :beer: what a fucking perfomance! Axl's voice sound wonderful on that one...


Who are the lucky guys standing behind Axl while he is singing? :smoking:

Did you guys notice that Axl started singing the last part of the song before the solo ended? that was weird

Also Axl played something before the last part of november rain that was very weird i never saw that in another show.

yeah.

it may have been where you were sitting....

congrats to axl and the band to FINALLY starting playing "new" songs on tour!!

they should change the setlist every night , it would be fresh to them and to the audience in case anyone is following them on tour.

thats one of the main reasons i follow pearl jam on tour , every single setlist is different from night to night

Don't was a disaster was GREAT and the sound problem was just the first part of the show not all.

PD: The sound problems was on all the SA tour in Montevideo was the same thing.

Axl was singing the second part of Don't cry while Ashba was doing the solo...

I guess even the band couldn't hear Axl

About the sound: was it only Axl's mic? It seems it was during half of the show, right? There were some sound problems too sometimes in 2006, especially in Lisbon. It depends on the venue I guess.

After listening to the youtube it is clear that only some people couldn't hear. The sound is fine on the video. that's too bad, but at a show like that Axl didn't dare stop it. Even for tech. problems. The whole venue would have rioted. I don't think they had any choice but to continue. They have to think of the safety of everyone above all else. Good job keeping it going Axl. And sorry to those of you that had to suffer.
amyl

ahhhhh, Don't Cry!!!!!  Lucky Argentinian fans!!!!!!  Watching that youtube put the biggest smile on my face.  :love: Thanks for posting!

Will the sound problem was the first part of the show not all.

Sorry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMXePWuEqo8

Paradise City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5pgbUSjfKA

Curious as hell...audio or video PLEAAAASE !!!

Don't cry.Great : ok: : ok:

It's actually pretty weird what happend with Axl's microphone and how his voice sounded during the show. For a good half of it, it was impossible to actually hear the guy, even when the band wasn't playing and he was just talking to the audience. It's really sad that so many people (at least around where I was standing) were pissed off and started yelling shit and throwing bottles, pieces of the plastic they used to cover the lawn, or whatever they could find. Luckily, most of these opbjects didn't hit the stage, but I'm not sure they didn't hit or hurt people in attendance.

I've been going to concerts for a good 15 years, and I've had good and bad experiences with stadium gigs, especially in regards to the sound. Bottom line, no drama, no bullshit, what happened was Axl's voice was too low in the mix for a large part of the show (and Ron's guitar was a bit over the mix for a while, to be honest).
On songs like "If The World", I could barely hear him.

Halfway through the show I found out someone had stolen my cellphone, so that added a bit of frustration to the experience. I pulled back a bit, and the more you walked away from the stage, the clearer Axl's voice sounded, which showed why the sound guy may have never realized that a lot of people couldn't hear him singing.

I have some mixed feelings about the show and all. I had a good time, for the most part, and you can bet your ass I had a huge smile on my face when the show started. It was probably during Mr. Brownstone that I started feeling like something was wrong.
Thinking about it, and comparing what I heard being close to the stage vs what I heard stepping away from it, there was clearly something wrong with the way the sound was coming out of the speakers. I don't know if it was a matter of volume, or simply EQ.

It was a good one, maybe not as good as I would've liked, but it's something I kinda owed to myself since 1993.

PS: Maybe I'm too old, or maybe I'm just pissed off, but this was the last time I'm attending a stadium concert in Buenos Aires. I can't stand how stupid some people act at these shows. Maybe it's time to go up there and sit with the older people :P

Sucks about the sound from what ive read.
BUT... don't blame it on Axl or demand free shows etc.  It wasnt his fault.

POR UNA CABEZA + PATIENCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFshhgAA2uk

Thanks, needed that !!!

 :no:

Incidents outside the recital of Guns' n'Roses

At least twelve people were arrested, according to what some fans said they were beaten by police at the concert the group was held at the stadium of Velez

A confusing episode resulted in clashes between fans of Guns' n'Roses and police officers outside the stadium of Velez, at the beginning of the recital of the American band. As a result, at least twelve people were arrested, police said on lanacion.com.
According to preliminary information, facts erupted when some fans tried unsuccessfully to enter the stadium without tickets or with counterfeit tickets purchased through the Internet, appropriated DyN agency.
The followers of the American group began throwing bottles and there were runs along Avenida Juan B. Just after the Foot Guards of the Federal Police began to act, throwing gas.
For the incidents, at least twelve people were arrested and taken to the police station, 44 ?, police said.
In dialogue with the TN channel, one fan said: "The police beat."
In addition, an allocation of firefighters attended the scene to quell the outbreak of fire in a tree outside the stadium.
Tonight, Guns'n'Roses was presented in the country 17 years after their last show in Buenos Aires. The concert started at around the 23, two hours later than scheduled, with about 45 thousand people in the Velez stadium.

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1246424

Some pretty good quality footage from the show:

"Welcome To The Jungle"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNMhGxIZ2Vw

"Mr. Brownstone"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wByCMp6qrDU

"Chinese Democracy" (partial 0:36)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ABTbI-cPus

We have to mention that Sebastian Bach played at 9.30 pm and he finished at 10.30 pm.

"estebanf"......your thoughts??

Well, I was in a perfect location, so I heard EVERYTHING at 100%.

Tomorrow I'll writte my review in spanish and translate it to english, I'll try my best.


Anyways, Axl is a fuckin' demon lion, spitting a lot of fire from his mouth when he sings, he is unstoppable.
I could hear him in all songs, and I have to tell you, he did a great job casting a lot of anger and strength to sing.

(I don't know if "casting" is the apropiate verb, I want to say something like "drawing", "elaborate", "spitting").

Cya tomorrow.

I feel for you guys, I thought this concert would totally kick ass! But let me tell you, sitting with the old people doesnt make it better, I did that in Montevideo and it was so f$%&( boring!!!!!

Yeah here we had sound problems as well with Axl's voice, but doesn't look like it was half of what you had there!! I feel for you guys...

And btw the RS review is terrible, is like they went to a total different concert  ???

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7255/22032010014.jpg)

Your impression about crowd?

Hey guys!  :beer:

Just awakened after a well deserved bunch of hours in tha bed.

I went to Buenos Aires from Santa Fe, a city thats about 7 hours away. We were more less 100 fans i think in 2 buses. We left Santa Fe at 8:30 am and arrived Bs As just before the doors opened. There was a LARGE queue for the field sector, it started to move slowly but then quite fast so luckily it wasnt a pain waitin'.

Massacre opened first. Its a local band i have heard a lot about but actually never heard them. I like them. It was a nice performance and they sounded really good. There were some impatience people near the first rows that were throwing things and waving their hands like saying "Get out of the stage! We want GNR"...

La Mancha de Rolando took the stage later. I dont really like this band, but they sounded clear. When I read that they were going to play I thougt "I dont think they fit in a GNR concert".  And I still think the same but anyway lot of people (specially the younger ones) sang along and jumped around with the songs. The band played all their radio hits. Also, they extended their setlist. I saw a guy telling them from the backstage "One more" many times.

I think it was around... 10 pm when Sebastian took the stage. Man... what an awesome frontman!!! I was really excited about having the possibility of seing him before GNR but I also thougt about saving my energy for GNR... COULDN HELP IT, I was jumping like crazy very near the stage singing along all songs it was great!. Sebastian setlist was excellent! Big Guns, I remember you, Love is A Bitschlap, Stuck Inside, 18 and life... Anyway, before he started singin Argentinian Metalhead  :hihi: I went totally smashed out of air and almost fainted! I tried to get some oxygen going to the back rows but the crowd never ended LOL so i made my way to one of the sides of the field and asked a security guard to take me out! He took me to the nursery (there were several fainted people ther) and I sat down to get some rest and water. Then went back to he field to listen the rest of Sebastian set.  Dudes, he was really really really exited about the crowd. He said it was his best show ever, just couldnt belive we were so fn' crazy!!! It was awesome, thank you so much Sebastian!

Then we waited some time to the set to be prepared for THE BEAST...

The crowd were going impatience, all the ligths were on but... suddenly it was only the moonlight in the sky, that freakin intro started and we all screamed and went totally mad pushing each others to the front rows and then Ashba appeared playing CD intro and it was incredible! Guns n' Roses were there in front of me. I got seriously paralyzed :o But then found myself jumping like a fn' crazy wild monkey like all the field!

What can I say dudes... nothing. There are no words to describe my emotions... I wouldn know how to (I am not Axl  :hihi: )... It was great despite the mic problems in near the first half part of the show. Actually, the sound problem in Axl's voice didnt ruined the show cause we were singing instead of him LOL, it was great. Later on the show, Axl finally was sure the mic was ok and he screamed several time just for us and we responded going crazy!

Its a shame that there were people throwing things at the stage. I guess they were really worried about not being able to heard Axl's voice during the entire show. But then that shit stopped. A curios note: Back in the bus in where I came, a guy told me that at the end of PC Axl seemed to be arguin very angry with someone near the stage, he told me he tnik it was cause of this guy shouting something about Slash. But I am not sure, i was looking athe the awesome pyro and confetti  ;D

The band sounded incredibly! Frank is a god-dammed drum demon! 4tus, Ashba and Ron the awesomest of the awesomest awe! Chris really gave a great atmosphere to the sound and Dizzy was Dizzy: A fn' great guy and musician! Was very ovationed during his solo. Axl was craaaazy as always! He is the ultimate frontman. No discussion! It seemed to me that despite the pussys trowing things he was very happy, he smiled a lot and was in a really good mood. He was ovationed constantly during the show "Ole ole ole Axl Axl"  :beer:

My personal higliths:

? Sorry (sounded so  fn' bold my bones were trembnling!)

? When Ron started the Dont Cry solo the crowd started sing along and then Axl appeared and started singin!!!! I couldn believe it man! I was too much for me! BEST SHOW EVER!

? Madagascar (I got really overwhelmed with emotion there).

? Actually, all the fn' show...

It was great. Sound problems cant bring down all the speacial moments of the nights. Finfing myself singing and jumping with fellow Gunners from all around the country showing our love for all the band, the history of a great band, but actually for this band, THE band just dont have price for me. I will never forget March 22 night.

Thanks a lot GNR. Return soon fuckers we will be waiting you!

I am sure I will remember more things during the day but thats all for now  :beer:

Axl asking the crowd to stop throwing things on stage...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQe-_19240k

In this video, you can clearly hear that the crowd is complaining about the sound problem!!! And the translator didn't say anything to Axl about this.

In front of the stage,  the sound of Axl's mic was very low.

Out ta get me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prqc_1JHPDQ

 :-\ god, reading your review  estebanf ,I must say we, chileans, were lucky then,  :-\ we didn't have any of that, we were lucky that the concert was held in a small venue where only respectful gnr fans were in. I remember reading Metallica had rioters outsite  the club h?pico, now I can imagine having the same problem if guns would have played over there. I agree with you, sometimes big crowds sucks.

I'm truly sorry for all the  problems in Argentina.


 :peace:

Shut up!!!! Axl should come back to Argentina. Not all Argentinians are bad. I'm from Argentina too. And I want a GNR show. I hate when people throw things, but not all Argentinians are like those ones.

Many people were angry last night because in the front, we couldn't hear Axl. Yeah, I paid a ticket and I couldn't hear Axl because there were problems with Axl's mic in some parts of the stadium. The rest of the band was great, the sound of guitars was awesome, but I'd like to hear Axl too. Argentina deserves another show!!!!!!

 

oh! You erased my complete review!! So cool of you!!

thank you for making me waste my time freely!!


it has been COMPLETELY erased by a mod. This is how things work here.

You were insulting Argentinians

They played Out ta get me...but I don't see it in the set lidst?  Do you know whhen it was play?

Thanks for the vid!!!! I love it!!!

He didn't insult Argentinians, he used the word 'n***o' which is a racist and insulting term for many people (whether or not it is used as a non racist term in Argentina) - That is what I am guessing is the reason for the deletion

Uploading videos, patience....


Intro/Chinese Democracy

Welcome To The Jungle

It's So Easy

Mr. Brownstone

Sorry

Better

Solo de guitarra de Richard Fortus (James Bond Theme)

Live And Let Die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQ9lbxmV1g

If The World

Rocket Queen

Thank you for supporting us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQUwlO88nk

Solo de piano de Dizzy Reed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NruzNFk8ok

Street Of Dreams

You wanna have fun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kZ3yTw_WQ

You Could Be Mine

Solo de guitarra de DJ Ashba (The Ballad Of Death)

Sweet Child O' Mine

Improvisaci?n instrumental (Another Brick In The Wall)

Solo de piano de Axl (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road/Someone Saved My Life Tonight)

November Rain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kR_5dGgj4c

Solo de guitarra de Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal (Pink Panther Theme)

Don't Cry

Out Ta Get Me

Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Nightrain

Madagascar

Whole Lotta Rosie

Jam instrumental (Por Una Cabeza)

Patience

Paradise City

GUNS N' ROSES: At Least 12 People Arrested Outside Buenos Aires Concert - Mar. 23, 2010

According to Argentine media reports, at least 12 people were arrested last night (Monday, March 22) outside Velez stadium in Buenos Aires after a number of fans tried unsuccessfully to enter GUNS N' ROSES' concert at the venue without tickets or with counterfeit tickets purchased through the Internet.

Several people began throwing bottles and members of the Guardia de Infanter?a de la Polic?a Federal used gas and rubber bullets to disperse the unruly crowd. In addition, firefighters were called to the scene to extinguish a fire that was started in a tree outside the stadium.

Around 45,000 people attended the concert, which started around 11:00 p.m. ? two hours later than scheduled. According to several reports, there were audio problems at the venue, with some people close to the stage claiming that they couldn't hear Axl Rose's singing. The frontman also had to stop the show at least twice to have the interpreter tell the crowd to stop throwing stuff on stage.

A nine-minute report from C5N, a breaking news TV station broadcasting from Argentina, can be viewed below.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=137264

We're not really interested in flagrant racism.

But estebanf used that word as a form of insult. And in Argentina that word is also used as an insult.  

Great - everywhere else it is racist. 

you could of just left the positive part of his review and erase the negative.

Or people could just not be racist? I'm not here to make people look good, if someone does something disgusting I'm going to remove it then, if they whine about it I'm going to point it out.

or the mod could have also asked him to edit his post or it will get deleted.... you know, a warning.

i couldn't care less.

Its quite simple Adz is not argentine and was not waiting for a single show after 17 years of waiting, to be ruined by some stupid people.

And i cant care less about Tatiana's comments. I explained i used that ''n'' word the way is used here, because I just cant explain it better since my mother language is not english. Its typical of argentine people, being such hypocrites, reading that ''n'' word (the way we used) and feel it scandalous, but i bet she has used that word plenty of times. ABout her saying ''insulting argentine people'': FUCK YES: i was doing that, so fucking what? Im argentine too.

I know i made a mistake using that word, which has a different and a more heavy connotation in english. I just think Adz could EDIT that parts, maybe giving me a negative point of karma, and avoid erasing my whole post, which i dedicated a lot of time.

estebanf: I think you should live in another country, if you hate your own country.

Hahahaha, "best fans ever" is all I've been hearing.

Yeah, ya'll were great.

So you thought 17 years was a long time....

i feel sorry for everything going all wrong for those ppl attend the show lots of expectations were made  about that gig "WAIT N SEE..." but for me as Brazilian its just hilarious i have to LOL  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Don't take my coment to serious i couldnt let it pass  : ok:

so there back to playing only 5 songs of democracy and the rest of the old stuff; they hav more solo's/jams than tunes od Democracy :o

and they are no longer starting shows at 10:45pm  :o

I feel sorry for Tatiana and other fans, but i just can't get the "we deserve a blablablablabla" bullshit.

I went to the shortest setlist show (Belo Horizonte) and i didn't get home disappointed. It was a fucking great time and i hope they come back soon!

Anyway, i saw the "translator" youtube video and yeah, he didn't tell Axl what the crowd was screaming

Huge props to the band for continuing to play through all the troubles.  As others have said, if this show were stopped, I am sure there would have been some kind of horrible trouble.

Damn, they played Don't Cry! Unbelievable ;D

hollyshit, amazing setlist for the argentinians!  ;D

Actually they played 6 songs off of CD.

I understood your frustration estebanf and took it as a difference in languages.  You certainly haven't presented yourself as a racist or bigot here before.  All around fun kind of person for the most part.

I still can't believe Argentina got Don't Cry, that's special.  As soon as I can wade through all the posts I hope I can find the youtube of that.

This is my channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/manteca080

Not trying to pick a fight with you, estebanf, but "the n word" is a racist term EVERYWHERE.
The fact that you and I come from a country that refuses to acknowledge this term as racist when it is clearly used in a derogartory way, insulting and entire race, doesn't make it ok. It just proves that our society needs to learn a few things, advance a few ideas and grow out of these ignorant ways.

I'm from Buenos Aires, born and raised here, and I do agree that a lot of people at the show (and at other shows I've attended, to be honest) behaved like idiots. But we have a name for that: IDIOTS. Idiocy doesn't come with the color of your skin, and it has nothing to do with where you were born: all human beings are capable of behaving like idiots. It's a choice.

I'll grant you that some people don't know any better, sometimes because of how they were brought up, but that doesn't give anyone the right to spew racism.

Again, I'm not trying to pick a fight here, I'm not trying to insult you or anything like that, and I'm not trying to convince you that I'm right and you're wrong. I'm just adding my two cents about this whole thing, because while I agree with you on some things about last night's concert and certain people who just don't know how to behave in public, I'm not with you regarding how you chose to describe those people.
I understand you're frustrated, and I am too.

I hope this clears the air a bit, and we can move on with the discussion, posting of photos, videos, and the things we all look for in these boards.


Cheers.

Good old Guns N' Roses... ;D

that was special.

but what was even more special is watching DJ, Richard and Bumble playing ''Por Una Cabeza'' (by one head > a horse winning a horse race at an hippodrome by the minimum difference), which is a tango written by the legendarious performer/songwritter Carlos Gardel, and his ethernal partner Alfredo Le Pera. What is really ironic is neither Gardel or Le Pera were argentine: there is a huge mistery and a lot of theories about Gardel's nationality (the strongest theories around claim he was born in France or in Uruguay), and Le Pera was born in Sao Paulo, Brazil. ''Por Una Cabeza'' is as typical as our national anthem. This, along with ''Sossego'' and ''Tavaszi sz?l vizet ?raszt'', was one of the most incredible tributes ever done by GNR, but my impression is ''Por Una Cabeza'' was performed flawlessly, which is not the case of Sossego and the hungarian song.


That was a great demonstration of civic conscience, as well as a demonstration of first class hypocrisy. Dont need any of your lessons, sorry. Claiming you're an argentine gives my words even more strenght.

If you are walking the streets and you get robbed by someone once, then twice, then again and again, by the same person, you're not facing ''an idiot'' (''idiocy'' is a pathological / mental illness, not the case here), you're facing a ''insert word here / choose a word you feel confortable with''.

This is the case with some people at rock shows in Argentina. People who just dont go to the venue to see the artist performance. I could have been robbed TWICE yesterday, and got hit by these people multiple times. They dont know the words for Nightrain, but they know how to throw a lighter to DJ Ashba. 100% of them were white-skinned people, so your ''Idiocy doesn't come with the color of your skin'' is another proove of your cheap demagogy. I fucking know that, and i have lots of things to learn but i do not need to learn civic lessons from anybody.

If you are a brazilian, an american, if you live in europe or asia / australia, and you're a GNR fan, you'll never understand what some of the argentine GNR fans that attended yesterday's show felt there. 17 fucking long years waiting to see the band, and some assholes that dont even know who Axl Rose is were trying to ruin that ONLY and ONE date to make your dream come true. I am a human being, and opposite as you, I do not pretend im perfect: i feel hatred. I just hate these persons. Its not a matter of skin colours, religion, sex orientation: i hate [insert word here]. They tried to ruin it all for us, but they failed.

And you see ME speaking here, who was lucky enough to see two other nice shows, that occured with no problems. But there are THOUSANDS of fans who only were able to see the Buenos Aires show, and now they feel like if they were raped by these persons. I friend of mine was robbed (a very expensive cellphone), some others got their wallet robbed, and one motherfucker also hit a 20 years old girl who dreamed all her life this show, and because of the hit, she was pulled out from near the stage to see the whole show by the videowall, 60 meters away from the stage. Do you think this is fair, Mr. Civics? How would you call the guy who hit her and spoiled her dream? How would you fucking qualify the guy who steals a wallet, a cellphone, or the two times these guys tried to steal my wallet? And these people, some of them who had to travel like 800 km just to change the ticket (due to the change of venue), and then come back to their cities, and then 800 km to the stadium, and then 800 km back home... how do you think they feel? You think its funny to see how some motherfuckers ruin your dream? They are all expressing their anger in spanish speaking forums. I manage to speak some english, that's why im here, but trust me im not the only one with hatred flowing in the veins, and that, as i said, the immense majority of them COULDNT attend two toher shows like i did. They hatred is even bigger than mine.

I know Adz will erase this post, but who fucking cares.

The good thing is Guns N' Roses is the best fucking sounding band in earth, and that Axl Rose is the biggest and last true rockstar of this era. Long live to Guns N' Roses  :beer:

Yeah, but at the end of the day, you still used a racist term when you didn't have to, it's pretty simple.

End of discussion.

Wow, didn't know you were all into political correctness...  :no:

First off, I did not have the chance to read Estebanf's review, so what I'm writing is based on the discussion that followed. Clearly misunderstandings based on language are very common and especially when writing on an international forum one should be careful even if (and perhaps just because) one is not writing in native tongue. Having said that board rules are board rules and should be respected by everyone, no questions asked, no matter what one's intentions were (and we can perhaps agree that Estebanf did not mean to be taken in the way he was). Could you consider posting an edited version of your review Estebanf? Your previous reviews were detailed and interesting and I think many would enjoy reading your account of the show.

already did, but Adz erased it too.

he clearly said ''at the end of the day, you still used a racist term'', so i erased the '''''''racist'''''' term and posted it again. He just deleted it, again. The brackets are there because i CLEARLY stated in my original post that i was NOT using the term with the english connotation, simply because I didnt know (still dont know) how to express it properly. And i also said a hell lots of very good and positive things about the band, who sounded unbelievably amazing and powerful.

you have job to do here Adz: http://htgth.com/releases/gnrlies/one-in-a-million.html  : ok:

estebanf, thanks for all your reviews for those of us who don't speak spanish.  I appreciate you taking time to translate stuff.

What does any of this have to do with your choice of words? I understand that you're outraged by people's behavior, but that doesn't justify using that particular word - some words can't be contextually justified.

I still thinks that despite the sounds problems, the show was awesome. Despite some people trhowing things I still think that the crowd was awesome. It was a very special show man, full of great moments. I also got the impression that the band was having fun.

Stop the negative shit or the semantic discussion. Lets talk about the show!  :beer:

Is it true that Richard was knocked in the head by some shit threw by the audience in Argentina?

You're a fucking moron if you use that as an excuse to use racist terms.  : ok:



/jarmo

I didnt saw that. I think its not true but where do you take that from?

Someone posted that in GNR-LA, so I just wanted to know if that shit is true or not!

estebanf, how would you feel if i use the name "estebanf" to call somebody else an idiot/asshole/thief/whatever? that's what you (and many people) do when using the "n" word... you think that's not racist because you're sure you're not directly insulting "black people" (i hope that doesn't sound offensive), but that's wrong...

ON TOPIC: i went to the show and i got seriously disappointed. i could barely hear axl. it was so sad. it was going to be the best day of my life and it got ruined.

Uploading...


Intro/Chinese Democracy

Welcome To The Jungle

It's So Easy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-D-6JFlXbo

Mr. Brownstone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5URKGJXcEBU

Sorry

Better

Solo de guitarra de Richard Fortus (James Bond Theme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaLpfBg918

Live And Let Die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQ9lbxmV1g

If The World

Rocket Queen

Thank you for supporting us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQUwlO88nk

Solo de piano de Dizzy Reed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NruzNFk8ok

Street Of Dreams

You wanna have fun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kZ3yTw_WQ

You Could Be Mine

Solo de guitarra de DJ Ashba (The Ballad Of Death)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On1uKIvBCQA

Sweet Child O' Mine

Improvisaci?n instrumental (Another Brick In The Wall)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku8cHXZISwY

Solo de piano de Axl (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road/Someone Saved My Life Tonight)

November Rain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kR_5dGgj4c

Solo de guitarra de Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal (Pink Panther Theme)

Don't Cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXqribQm3E

Out Ta Get Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOFpHi1rXGU

Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Nightrain

Madagascar

Whole Lotta Rosie

Jam instrumental (Por Una Cabeza)

Patience

Paradise City

Esteban, I'm not trying to teach you a lesson, and again, I'm not trying to fight you.
You expressed your opinion, I expressed mine. I'm not saying that I'm right and you're wrong, or that you shouldn't feel hatred, anger, or whatever else you're feeling about this.

I'm not claiming to be argentine, I was simply born here. I have no pride regarding my country, because I simply do not think that way.

Someone who robs you is a criminal, man. Plain and simple.

Once more, I'm not trying to portray myself as "perfect" like you say, I never said "This is the truth and whatever that guy said is wrong". I'm speaking for me, as much as you're speaking for you. Agree or disagree, from reading your posts I figured you are an intelligent guy, and I hoped you wouldn't take my post as a personal attack. I never called you a racist, because I don't think you are one. The term is still a racist one, as long as it's being used in a derogatory way. That's not my opinion, that is a fact.

This was the only GN'R show I've attended in my entire life, so trust me, I do feel frustrated by some of the events that took place. Someone took my cellphone during the show too, and I'm currently unemployed, so getting a new one really put a dent in my financial situation. No, I'm not first class. I paid for the ticket with money I made by working.
I would've loved to be able to attend the Montevideo show, or one of the shows in Brazil, but as I said, I'm unemployed at the moment, so I couldn't afford it.

I too had been waiting for 17 years to see the band, I'm not a casual fan. I've been attending rock concerts for a good 15 years now (stadiums from big stadiums to small clubs), and this was one of the only shows I was looking forward to like I did when I was a kid. There are no words to express what a shit night I had. There's no consolation after watching videos and reading reviews from the Brazil, Uruguay and Chile shows, and then feeling like we got the short end of the stick here.

If you wanna vent your anger with me, fine. If you think attacking me and what I say is the way to go, fine. If you think calling me "Mr. Civics" will make you feel better or make me agree with you, fine. Yes, I try to be civil. If that's wrong, sorry. If that offends you, sorry.
I'm not civil 24/7, I did have to punch a guy during the concert because he was all over me and was harming me. I hadn't punched anyone in almost 10 years. Even though I know I was defending myself, I regret what I did. I wasn't thinking, I acted on impulse.
I'm not perfect, and neither are you, for that matter.


Just in case I wasn't clear, this is not a personal attack on you or the way you feel. I simply disagree on the way you choose to use the word the mods don't tolerate here. Yes, I see the irony, and censorship doesn't sit well with me either. I don't think your post should've been deleted, it should've been edited.

And again, if anything I said felt like a personal attack, or an insult, I apologise. I never meant it in an insulting way.

I couldn't hear Axl's voice, of couse, I'm going to go home sad. I wanted to cry. One thing is a short setlist and another thing is not hearing the singer. In some occasions, Axl's mic worked and I felt so so happy!!! His voice is unique. But then his mic stopped working again, and the vocal sound was very low and with echo. Then, in the last songs of the show his mic worked again.

I just want another show : (.  As I said before, I loved Chinese Democracy tour, the band was awesome. I really enjoyed it! But I couldn't hear the voice of my favorite singer! That's why most argentinian fans felt disappointed, and that's why the following day many fans wrote mails to radio stations to complain about this. They were angry due to these sound problems.

Axl, come back!  :'(  :'(

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And I hate that translator!  :rant:

  

i understand tatiana at all !!!

i dont know why that problem wasnt solve !!!

the argentina concert was supose to be the best !!!! and the mic`s problem was the high light ...

If you keep talking about off topic shit, we won't continue this discussion at all.

End of story.




/jarmo

GNR performance was great.

Sound was awful. I did listen Axl's voice 35% of the show. On I'ts so easy, Tommy's voice was double than Axl's.

Dizzy's piano solo started with no volume, and they put volume 10 seconds later.

This happened in montevideo too, but montevideo people acted more civilized. Argentinian people doesn't like bad shows, so they started screaming "no se escucha" (we cant listen) for few songs. Noone noticed the symbols, so they started trowing stuffs.

Axl's translator is a dickhead, he didn't explain to Axl the reason of the yellings and the show kept with bad volume settings for a few more songs.

It's lame, after waiting for 17 years, after paying expensive tickets, and with this kickass lineup, to get a horrible sounding show. GNR should come back in april again and do the show again.

AXL: WHY THE HELL DO YOU PAY LOTS OF MONEY FOR THAT GIGANT SOUND SYSTEM IF YOU PUT A MONKEY TO OPERATE IT ?

Imagine how much do I like this band... besides all the technical problems, this show was the most emotive in my life  :peace:

Yes it's true...sad but true, i was just in front of Fortus when that happened.

Now, talking about the show. I loved when BBF, Richard, Ashba played ?Por una cabeza?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFshhgAA2uk They surprised the crowd! Excellent!

I liked when Axl was joking with BBF on the floor at the last part of ?whole lotta Rosie?. We laughed  :hihi:

I went to the show with two friends and my brother. My friend, who was a girl, didn't know Ashba, well, she loved him, haha. Ashba was very nice and sweet with the crowd. He is beautiful and a great guitarist too. Thanks Axl!

Axl was WOW. I couldn't hear him well, but I could see him! He had a lot of energy, he ran from side to side. I loved his new look. He was beautiful!!! I love his attitude on stage.  :love:  I love him! I remember that when I couldn't hear him, I just remembered his voice from other shows, and I started singing with the rest of the crowd.

Richard and Ashba went from side to side of the stage. They were near the people. They played with a lot of energy. They had a smile on their faces. They seemed to be enjoying the show.

Frank was great. I wanted to see Tommy more, but he didn't move so much towards the people. Tommy!!! Ha.

Pitman was a bit far. He.

BBF great guitarist, very concentrated on his guitar.

The people screamed with joy and excitement, and we screamed much more when Axl's mic could be heard! In spite of mic problems, the crowd jumped and sang during the whole show. The last part of the show was amazing!!!

I want another GNR show!!! Please!   :peace:

  





 


    

Technical problems are going to pop up now and then. That's a fact that can't be avoided by the best soundman.

Hahahaha! Yeah, I forgot to mention that in my (intend-of) review. It was really funny!

Ron ended playing ?Whole Lotta Rosie? lying on the floor playing like crazy and then Axl came and started (acting like he was) kicking him with Frank doing the SFX  :rofl:

The smile in Axl's face was awesome...   :beer:

Wonder how Ron and Ashba got into "Por una cabeza"... Maybe someone told them in the hotel or they heard it earlier around the city.

Ding ding ding ding ding! From most of the reviews I've read the VAST majority of the people at the show could hear Axl just fine. Sometimes there are dead spots that pop up when it comes to stadium shows and there is not a damn thing that can be done about it.

I'm sure being around the culture is enough of an inspiration for them to just want to play something for the locals  : ok:

THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR SHARING ALL THE GREAT PICS N' YOUTUBE VIDEOS N' YOUR REVIEWS!!!  :beer:

 


He's done that before.

I remember watching a youtube of Don't Cry from Japan and I even posted a comment about the TALENT N' PROFESSIONALISM that Ron showed when it happened then because without missing a beat, Ron transitioned to the exact point to match where Axl went.

In this Argentina version, I think Ron showed even more professionalism (if that's possible) because this time when that happened, Dj happened to be playing along side/with Ron.  Ron could have easily hung Dj out to dry and just go himself where Axl went in the song.  What Ron did do was finish the part Dj n' him were at before moving on to the point where Axl was at.

It's certainly Axl's prerogative to take any song in any direction.  It's just amazing the artistry and ability that Ron not only shows in handling anything that comes his way but also the way he guided (for lack of a better term) Dj through it also.

And let's not forget that we wouldn't even be hearing Axl sing Don't Cry if Ron didn't add it as part of HIS SOLO!!!

BUMBLEFOOT RULES!!!  :headbanger:

Absolutly! As you said, Ron professionalism is outstanding.

During the last solo of November Rain I had the impression that Ron was looking at the crowd like saying "Hey look, I can do this with one hand"  :hihi:  It amazed me!  :drool:

Intro/Chinese Democracy

Welcome To The Jungle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cEn08HLr1E

It's So Easy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-D-6JFlXbo

Mr. Brownstone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5URKGJXcEBU

Sorry

Better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrUuhNZT6ak

Solo de guitarra de Richard Fortus (James Bond Theme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaLpfBg918

Live And Let Die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQ9lbxmV1g

If The World

Rocket Queen

Thank you for supporting us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQUwlO88nk

Solo de piano de Dizzy Reed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NruzNFk8ok

Street Of Dreams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VApZeRnKO1M

You wanna have fun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kZ3yTw_WQ

You Could Be Mine

Solo de guitarra de DJ Ashba (The Ballad Of Death)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On1uKIvBCQA

Sweet Child O' Mine

Improvisaci?n instrumental (Another Brick In The Wall)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku8cHXZISwY

Solo de piano de Axl (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road/Someone Saved My Life Tonight)

November Rain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kR_5dGgj4c

Solo de guitarra de Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal (Pink Panther Theme)

Don't Cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXqribQm3E

Out Ta Get Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOFpHi1rXGU

Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Nightrain

Madagascar

Whole Lotta Rosie

Jam instrumental (Por Una Cabeza)

Patience

Paradise City

Ron played like 3 seconds of Estranged on the 2009 Asian tour during his solo. Maybe one day we'll hear a shorter version of Estranged. :)

i've read people's reviews who were at the same sector i was and they claim they "heard" axl just fine.... well, i think those are that kind of people that can't hear anything negative said about their favorite band, or they have special ears, i don't know... fact is i was there and axl's voice was barely heard and lot of people from different sectors said the same...

I can't hear Axl because the crowd is singing too loud  :hihi:  You guys are the best.

He did it in Bras?lia as well, I think he's been doing that every show, but not a lot of people notice.

It's obvious you didn't watch the video where axl talks trought a translator guy and ALL THE STADIUM is bitching about the sound. I had friends in front, friends next to the sound tower, I was in the middle, and all of us noticed the same.

 I was 2 meters from the stage and I could hardly hear Axl. You said this beacuse you weren't there.

I totally agree with this, I was saying something similar about how the new band have to guess when to go for the change and start the power chords during Jungle after the bridge and solo. I'm sure alot have noticed that the new band improvise the bit before Axl says ' Do you know where you are? ' after the second solo. This is amazing to watch live, and shows just how talented the whole band is because if one person goes too early or too late, it would throw everyone else off balance.

The new band are on fire, and also with that Bumblefoot seems to keep on getting better and better.

I love the man.  :love:


Lee

Exactly. Video of people screaming ?No escuchamos? (We can't hear) ?No escuchamos? (We can't hear). Low Voice Sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQe-_19240k

As I said before I was 2 meters from the stage and Axl's mic was very low and with echo. What a good sound engineer!!!   :confused:

very nice of your part.  : ok:

i clearly stated that 100% of the people throwing shit and robbing at the show were argentine and white skinned, i am argentine and white skinned, so do all my family and friends, and you say i need an excuse to use racist terms  ::)

its easy to pretend you have the last word and the truth about something when you're the only one capable of censoring and insulting others. Good to see real life is not this way. Obviously, you dont care about me being flagrantly offended by your words.

I wonder if you reacted like Mother Teresa thinking for yourself ''this good human being maybe needs my phone to do some good deeds'' when you got your iphone stolen. Yeah, i do believe that... only difference here is i am not an hypocrite and as a human being i feel hatred. NOTHING to do with racism.

Dont worry, this is my last post in this thread.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Unlike you, I didn't blame the entire population of Brazil for my phone being stolen.

That was one person who did it, not an entire city, a nation or a race.

I wouldn't call the person a fucking Brazilian in a negative way. I would call him/her a fucking thief.


That's the difference between me and you.


The so called censoring. You only got yourself to blame. It's pretty moronic to make a full post and then use terms you damn well know are offensive to people outside your own country. You should know that this is not your site. You don't get to decide what's offensive. We don't necessarily follow the rules you have made up or the rules that might be acceptable among your friends in Argentina.

If you haven't realized that this place is international with people from all over the world, consider this your wake up call.


/jarmo

You gave him the site?  :o

hehehehe....sorry, I couldn't resist...

hahahaha

hey people cmon dont get angry, we all are gunners ! 

i know sometimes feels like shit , when you post something and then someone just delete it !!!

i think both sides have some good points.
diferent countries, diferent slang

You are picking 1 video where some people can't hear. I've seen tons of videos from the show that the sound is perfect. I'm not saying there wasn't ANY sound problem near the stage cause obviously there was a problem there but you can't blame the sound guy cause some NOT ALL people couldn't hear. Obviously if there was anything the sound guy could have done to fix the problem he would have done it.

I think that to use a color as an adjetive is not good ... There were a lot of stupid people in the show (10% of all, but they managed to call atention), that was the problem ... and it?s true that argentine crowd can be the best in the word, but can be the worst too ... there is  lot of people here that is so intolerable ...

The show was great ! I love the band and Axl .. During the first 50 minutes Axl?s Mic wasn?t ok .. I saw the whole show 10 or 5 meters from Axl, that was amazing. I could see everything he did when I was in front of him, it was a dream ! But, I repeat, it was low Axl?s mic ... or I don?t know what really happened because a lot of people who were a lot of meters back could hear the show better. Some of them said it was great the whole performance in that aspect. When the band played Street of Dreams was the moment that Axl?s mic was corrected.

It could be the perfect show, but because of the first part, didn?t happened.

I went home happy. I saw for the first time in my life the band that I love from 1991. Thank you Axl and all members of the band that were fantastic, all of them and sounds as a great machine of rock and roll !!! Hope Guns N? Roses come back to Argentina again any time !!

There were problems in the front, not in the other areas of the stadium. Yeah. That's why some people could hear him and others not.

What was weird is that nobody stopped the show to say: ?there are technical problems, we're going to try to fix it?. I think nobody was aware of that. Poor Axl, BBF, Ashba, Tommy, Frank, Pitman, Dizzy and Richard because they were playing without knowing what was happening.  

Intro/Chinese Democracy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFk7fp7c8M8

Welcome To The Jungle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cEn08HLr1E

It's So Easy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-D-6JFlXbo

Mr. Brownstone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5URKGJXcEBU

Sorry

Better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrUuhNZT6ak

Solo de guitarra de Richard Fortus (James Bond Theme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaLpfBg918

Live And Let Die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQ9lbxmV1g

If The World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y0IrctIl0k

Rocket Queen

Thank you for supporting us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQUwlO88nk

Solo de piano de Dizzy Reed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NruzNFk8ok

Street Of Dreams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VApZeRnKO1M

You wanna have fun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kZ3yTw_WQ

You Could Be Mine

Solo de guitarra de DJ Ashba (The Ballad Of Death)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On1uKIvBCQA

Sweet Child O' Mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzOLJVc6VIY

Improvisaci?n instrumental (Another Brick In The Wall)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku8cHXZISwY

Solo de piano de Axl (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road/Someone Saved My Life Tonight)

November Rain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kR_5dGgj4c

Solo de guitarra de Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal (Pink Panther Theme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVqSCCeWi24
Don't Cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXqribQm3E

Out Ta Get Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOFpHi1rXGU

Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Nightrain

Madagascar

Whole Lotta Rosie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJ9h7R2PCQ

Jam instrumental (Por Una Cabeza)/Patience

Paradise City

i wasn't in the front... i was in the back and couldn't hear shit... all the people in the back also started to chant "no se escucha" ("we can't hear")... there were sound problems all over the stadium....

Definitively there were sound problems at the show, I was not there but you can notice clearly in the videos and also in the audio posted in the download section, in Sorry for example you can barely hear Axl Voice, Bumblefoot in is twiteer mentioned that it seemed to be a problem with the PA system.

It's really frustrating to be waiting this show for 17 years and things like this happens, I don't blame anybody for this but I understand the anger in the people who went to see this amazing band and couldn't hear Axl voice for most of the show,

don't know for the sound problems but on these videos, the show looks awesome.
this version of don't cry is so good.

Videos with Axl's voice:

Streets of Dreams:
Axl sounds perfect, a lot of applause ovation at the end of the verses:
http://www.youtube.com/v/JlPAUa_IhMg&hl=es_ES&fs=1&rel=0

Live and Let Die:
The cameraguy lost his control when all the 35.000 people jump:
http://www.youtube.com/v/u1gIWE-RpU8&hl=es_ES&fs=1&rel=0

Rocket Queen:
http://www.youtube.com/v/oplZPM1Gijw&hl=es_ES&fs=1&rel=0

Out Ta Get Me:
Axl yelling out loud, but the rest of the 30.000 people don't hear NOTHING of this:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Prqc_1JHPDQ&hl=es_ES&fs=1&rel=0

Don't Cry:
You just... just see this, words will be unnecesary:
http://www.youtube.com/v/WanjJNh1b_M&hl=es_ES&fs=1&rel=0

Paradise City:
The cameraguy lost his control when all the 35.000 people jump:
http://www.youtube.com/v/jLP63WHQuHA&hl=es_ES&fs=1&rel=0


The channel wiht more videos of the concert:
http://www.youtube.com/user/mijoca666 (http://www.youtube.com/user/mijoca666)

bumblefoot
On Wednesday 24th March 2010, @bumblefoot said:

Fantastic time in Argentina! Apologies to the fans in the front that weren't getting Axl's voice in the PA - don't know wtf happened, heard part of the PA had malfunctioned, or something with the angle of the speakers, don't know exactly, regardless of the reason, I'm sad that there were fans that missed out on the full experience. Understand why people were throwing stuff at the stage, to alert us there was a problem. Someone threw a shoe. Please people, if you're going to throw a shoe, throw BOTH shoes - one shoe is of very little use.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/k38c3

COOL !!!

that was what i want to hear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hell yes !

THANK YOU RON !

im sure he read the complains in this forum  ;)

I am getting goose bumps watching all these clips especially Don't Cry.  Thank you very much!!

I think you are a bit naive to think that the band could have stopped the show, even to fix up an obvious problem, and not cause a riot of some sort. From what I hear the crowd, or at least parts of it, were acting out of control and I don't think you can control that sort of crowd with any amount of sensible talk.

i think you're wrong. People would have wait all the time needed to be able to hear Axl's voice. When Axl's voice was perceptible, the crowd was A FRENZY, 100% happy and excited. Never see anything similar in uruguay or brasil.

But apparently, it was one of those problems you just can fix in some minutes.

The show itself was outstanding even with the techical problems. The complete responsability of the bitterweet taste some of us still have is on a part of the crowd.

Bumblefoot is simply a beast. If Axl described Slash as ''half man, half beast'' back in the eighties, well, Bumblefoot is 100% beast. The things he does with that fretless guitar are unbelievable.

And i (as well as some other argentine fans I was at the show) can say that I heard Axl's voice WITHOUT THE MIC during If The World. THAT'S something really impressive.

I was not there, of course, yet I think I have a point. There were really really many people there, all of them did not experience problems and may not have been aware that some did. If the concert would have suddenly stopped, do you think all in the audience would have had the patience to find out why before protesting? As far as I understand it would not have been enough for Axl just to announce they will continue as soon as the sound problems are fixed, but a translator would have needed to step in too and try to get the message through. Once such a big crowd starts protesting, it may be hard just to talk sense and make them stop, especially since there obviously were people there who were not there just for the music. Why take the risk?

At best in this situation, if the band were aware of the sound issues, they would have acknowledged the problem and ask the crowd to be patient while they work on the problem as the show continued.

Clearly from Ron's post they weren't aware of the issues and that the translator didn't mention this fact either, despite the crowd shouting this. The band sing and speak English so shouting ?No escuchamos? is Greek to me.... or other English only speaking people, I'd say in reply "No Eskimo's? WTF"

Sometimes life dishes out a curve-ball that just can't be helped, take consolation from the fact you got to see your idols and got to hear some songs as they were meant to be heard, right now I'd love that memory...

Ohh man....Ron's a genius. Great sense of humour. :rofl:

Good to see you AsXpLy!

Yeah, what he said about ?the shoes? made me laugh too :hihi: 

But in one of the shows of this tour (I don't remember which one) Axl stopped the show because there were some problems with something. In Argentina, nobody said anything, that's why people started to throw things. People wanted to stop the show. We wanted them to fix the problem. Perhaps, it was impossible to fix it so they decided to go on. 
 

 I was 2 meters from the stage and I could hardly hear Axl. You said this beacuse you weren't there.


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No, I said it because I've gone to and played shows where there were problems with the sound. Occasionally, you run into something that you couldn't have planned. I agree that it sucks for the crowd - just saying, it can't necessarily be controlled. They probably should have stopped the show, but it isn't easy for the tech crew to communicate with the band, and I'm sure Axl doesn't like to be interrupted when he's in the zone. It's bad luck, but at least they didn't cancel the show.

You know, it wasnt the best decision to throw stuff at the band (actually that was just plain wrong as they dont control the PA and it could hurt them) or to yell in spanish at the band.

If it was that bad, try to tell something at the soundboard guy at the center of the venue, in the middle of the crowd. The guys up there were the ones who could at least try to help.

Amazin clip of Knockin on heavens door...very good crowd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLHQeb4t7aA

what a crowd

http://www.youtube.com/user/diegooviedo1#p/u/4/BWjy20V2vYE

 :rofl: Hahahahaha, Ron is tha man!


You should have seen it from inside. We were like a fn' wild human ocean storm...

on the jungle you were like on football game...amazin...are you like this on this on every show,or just gnr have privileges

Yeah I think the strong soccer culture here has something to do with that... It happens in every show, Maiden, Megadeth, AC/DC, etc...

I've been to shows where the sound changes during the course of the show.

It's not that uncommon....


I think throwing shit at the band isn't helping anybody. You think the first thing that comes to mind when you get hit with a bottle is "Oh, I guess the sound isn't ok"?


Regarding people who say the band should've stopped playing. Did it seem to you like the breaks between songs were peaceful and the crowd would've been happy to wait longer between songs?

I didn't get that impression.

Maybe the band avoided more people getting hurt and/or an actual riot by playing a full set....



/jarmo

100% agree : ok:

I must admit that the Argentine crowd is a bit wild in comparison with other crowds. And people can be aggressive when they don?t like something or something is wrong. In my opinion, yes, it?d have been better to stop the show for some minutes to fix the problem. I don't know, maybe, the problem was easy. But I?m sure if they had explained to us the situation, the crowd would have waited without any riot because the problem started at the beginning of the show (after the second song). We just wanted to hear Axl's mic. 

Sometimes different cultures and languages make things a bit difficult. In this particular case, the translator omitted to express the ?words? of the crowd to Axl. Bad job of the translator. Axl didn?t know what was happening with the crowd. Poor Axl, maybe he thought we didn?t like the songs!  :-\

 

What did Axl do in 1993? Called the interpreter, informed there were technical problems, and said ''were gonna be back as soon as they are corrected, thank you for your patience''.

And that was the most memorable show of the complete Skin N Bones tour from 1993, so I REALLY think trying to fix the technical problems, even needing some dead/waiting time, would have been the best option. Axl's voice was unhearable NOT in Madagascar, i mean, at the last part of the show, it was unhearable from the starting. But sadly, I think this was one of those techincal problems you just cant fix in ''minutes''...

The argentine show was a nightmare in terms of ticket sales organization, then the venue changed, then the date changed, then the incidents outside the venue, then the technical problems, then the assholes throwing stuff... trust me never expected this. It makes me sad for the people who was only able to attend to this show, not for me, really.

I only attended this show from this tour leg and I had the time of my life.

Yeah, the sound problems were there, the assholes where also there... But there where also my favourite band and lot of people like me who went to support this SA Tour. Despite the shit, it was the best show I attended in my life  :beer:

oh cmon ,, stop the Argentinians are the wildest BS.. They were promising the most amazing crowd and .. well we all know what happened.. In Brazil where they made that huge Flag.. That WAS Amazing  and memorable and I m sure the band wont forget it..

Those type of waves where everyone just moves forward and then all over the place happen everywhere.. at least in Bogota where I saw Maiden and Metallica.. so nothing extraordinary , just that they always shoot the concerts in Argentina..  time to move on.

OH MY GOD.. This is amazing though http://www.youtube.com/user/diegooviedo1#p/u/4/BWjy20V2vYE AMAZING, Goosebumps all over.. the singing is incredible, Reminded me of the 666 Documentary when Bruce is singing Fear of the dark..at the beggining  and says Argentinaaaaa... Its the loudest crowd I ve seen on video

I aint buying that fifth of whiskey slash1213  :beer:

Want more goosebumps? Look for Axl singin "Dont Cry" with Ron, a really special moment. And "Its so easy" was sang by all the fn' stadium also hahahaha! Louder than DJ's guitar trust me! (and thats LOUD)  :hihi: specially the "fuck off" part...

It's nice of Ron to post something about this. ;)

About the sound problem, I remember I went to a show in Paris a few years ago (a French band, not GN'R). It was a big venue and it was packed (it's where GN'R played in 2006: Bercy, about 17,000 seats). The band came on stage, the first 3 songs were fine and then the sound stopped working. The band stopped playing, the singer went backstage to see what was going on, started over, but the sound was still not working. Apparently the band didn't know, so the singer came closer to the front row and asked the audience close to the stage if they could hear. We answered no so the band went backstage and it lasted for a while (like 10 minutes). The crew fixed the sound and then it was ok for the rest of the show.

Of course, it happened in an arena, not in a stadium with 45,000 people. For us, the band understood something was wrong because it was the whole band, but for Buenos Aires it seems it was only Axl's mic, and only in some parts of the stadium, which is why it was very difficult to fix. Maybe the sound crew didn't hear the problem, or if they did, they couldn't/ didn't have time to fix it during the concert.

I agree, sound problems can happen at any show. You only have to think back to Download 06 to remember how unpredictable the sound can be at a show. And also how much of a pain it is to sort it out while the audience are going crazy. But in any event, I think it's kind of obvious that throwing things at the stage is not going to improve the situation at all.

I also know it must be hard when there are a small percentage of people in the crowd trying to spoil the show for the majority. I hope that most of the audience enjoyed the show, and it sounds to me like everyone had a blast. Good on GN'R for playing a full set and for not letting the minority who were throwing objects at the stage win.

For the people who felt the sound problems spoiled the show for them, I have to say it's an unpredictable aspect of any show. I'm sure most people on this forum have gone to a show where the sound didn't live up to their expectations. Just try to be happy GN'R played a full set, and in saying that be thankful GN'R put up with objects being thrown at the stage, when they would have been entitled to leave if they chose.


Lee

You have to shut your fuckin' mouth. Do you know why? Because you're not agree with Jarmo, you just hate Argentina and you're HAPPY that this kind of issues happened in Argentina.

I know you, I know what kind of guy you are.

And bolton, yes...we're the best crowd in the world. I said it weeks ago. But we become in assholes too...

That's not necessary Ulises.U and Jarmo in my point view misunderstood Voodoochild to me his was just point a better solution than throw stuff one stage would be better get the attention of the sdb crew and it doesnt mean throw stuff on them...
And its not a Argentine thing S?o Paulo gig u know what happened...also back in 1992 the second nite in S?o Paulo again wasnt finished cuz some idiot throw stuff in Axl...2006 Download...

 :peace:

Intro/Chinese Democracy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFk7fp7c8M8

Welcome To The Jungle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cEn08HLr1E

It's So Easy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-D-6JFlXbo

Mr. Brownstone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5URKGJXcEBU

Sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph6S49KitA8

Better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrUuhNZT6ak

Solo de guitarra de Richard Fortus (James Bond Theme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaLpfBg918

Live And Let Die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQ9lbxmV1g

If The World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y0IrctIl0k

Rocket Queen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MusmMieCaY4

Thank you for supporting us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQUwlO88nk

Solo de piano de Dizzy Reed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NruzNFk8ok

Street Of Dreams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VApZeRnKO1M

You wanna have fun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kZ3yTw_WQ

You Could Be Mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnLnu_sxZY4

Solo de guitarra de DJ Ashba (The Ballad Of Death)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On1uKIvBCQA

Sweet Child O' Mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzOLJVc6VIY

Improvisaci?n instrumental (Another Brick In The Wall)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku8cHXZISwY

Solo de piano de Axl (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road/Someone Saved My Life Tonight)

November Rain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kR_5dGgj4c

Solo de guitarra de Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal (Pink Panther Theme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVqSCCeWi24

Don't Cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXqribQm3E

Out Ta Get Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOFpHi1rXGU

Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Nightrain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4qM-fDKDPQ

Madagascar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEybpqAazY

Whole Lotta Rosie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJ9h7R2PCQ

Jam instrumental (Por Una Cabeza)/Patience

Paradise City

100% agree.
Do you think the first thing that comes to mind when you have waited for 10 non-stop songs to hear the singer?s voice is '..I?m sure they are working on it....' ?
I can - in some way ? understand, not justify, the violent behavior.  People spent 10 songs throwing nothing but signals.
1st ? With the hands on the air and fingers doing a Negative signal.
2nd ? Chanting ?no se escucha?
3rd - ?Chanting ?Sub? el volumen, la puta que te pario? meaning ?Turn up the volume, damn it?
4th ? Giving signals to the band?s members.
(In Montevideo, I was in first row and another fan standing right next to me told DJ Ashba (you know?gesticulating) to turn up the volume of Axl?s mic  ? and he did understood, we could see him talking to some guys in charge of the sound i guess ? He also came back to us and asked if it was better  -  Such a Nice Guy - )

I?m really sorry that throwing things on stage was the only effective way to catch the band's attention. I guess it was crowd's last resource. I apologize to the band for that.  I really do. Of course they are not to blame. But yes, someone must be responsible and fix whatever the hell is wrong with their sound, 'cause if not -  it will eventually damage GNR image :rant:



When Axl asked the first time for an interpreter many people thought he was going to talk about the sound, but instead of that he gave as a warning about the shits being thrown onstage.  :-[ That made people get even more annoyed and upset. It was like a fucking joke.?or a nightmare. 
Then, the main problem was not only the Audio technical difficulties, the problem was that nobody seemed to be aware of that? :'( and that meant to us that nobody was trying to fix it. So yes, I was one of those who would have preferred the show to be stopped rather than watching Axl making movements like a mime. Especially because I know he?s voice is in perfect shape.

We would have waited an eternity?People were ready to have fun, A proof to that is how the crowd changed their attitude as soon as Axl?s voice could be heard in the whole stadium.  : ok: And this is just my thought but I believe Axl noticed that change as well and gave us reasons to believe he had understood our bad behavior. ;)

Anyway?I enjoyed the show and it makes me really happy to watch all those youtube videos where his voice can be clearly appreciated. : ok:
And? Damn we`re good! ?.have you seen that crowd??. ..Who said we were upset :rofl:!

omg they played don't cry again... nice :love:

axlrose    Headed 4 Lima! Was great gettin' back 2 Buenos Aires!! The crowds everywhere on this tour r unique un2 themselves. Don't get much rowdier or energetic than here n' as w/ Belo Horizonte n' Santiago etc. very humbling. Sure there's excited idiots who throw shit or whatever but 4 the most part the fans r so enthusiastic, positive n' we mean so much 2 them it sets u bk n' makes u work hard to feel u can earn a small part of the respect they show u. So many of these shows we have trouble w/r sound on stage to b able to hear 'cuz the audience is singing along so loud which is amazing!! It's also nice to visit places that aren't as jaded n' influenced by peer pressure or media nonsense. They know what they like n' stand up 4 it rather than b told what they should n' shouldn't b in2. I grew up w/the preppies n' jocks w/their pink Izod's where Bowie, Cooper, Zeppelin etc. were considered garbage n' when The Cars, The Police, The Clash, The Ramones, The Sex Pistols etc were "gay", whatever. South American fans have always been so good to us, I'm happy we were able to find a way to play for those we've been fortunate enough to have seen so far!! Obrigado, Gracias n' Thank You!! N' to the officials who gave us extra time in Buenos Aires a triple Thank You!! Peace!!
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wow, wasn't aware of this. Really cool!  :beer:

I didn't know it either.

Thanks officials! A GN'R show is special for us  :peace:.

It was the least that the Bs As goverment could do! I heard the River stadium was ironically authorized the day before the show!...

Anyway, great to hear that words from Axl.  :beer:

I have just finished :D


Intro/Chinese Democracy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFk7fp7c8M8

Welcome To The Jungle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cEn08HLr1E

It's So Easy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-D-6JFlXbo

Mr. Brownstone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5URKGJXcEBU

Sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph6S49KitA8

Better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrUuhNZT6ak

Solo de guitarra de Richard Fortus (James Bond Theme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaLpfBg918

Live And Let Die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQ9lbxmV1g

If The World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y0IrctIl0k

Rocket Queen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MusmMieCaY4

Thank you for supporting us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQUwlO88nk

Solo de piano de Dizzy Reed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NruzNFk8ok

Street Of Dreams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VApZeRnKO1M

You wanna have fun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kZ3yTw_WQ

You Could Be Mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnLnu_sxZY4

Solo de guitarra de DJ Ashba (The Ballad Of Death)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On1uKIvBCQA

Sweet Child O' Mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzOLJVc6VIY

Improvisaci?n instrumental (Another Brick In The Wall)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku8cHXZISwY

Solo de piano de Axl (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road/Someone Saved My Life Tonight)/November Rain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4bgLiMBZA8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kR_5dGgj4c

Solo de guitarra de Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal (Pink Panther Theme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVqSCCeWi24

Don't Cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXqribQm3E

Out Ta Get Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOFpHi1rXGU

Knockin' On Heaven's Door

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJA5alQEBRE

Nightrain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4qM-fDKDPQ

Madagascar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEybpqAazY

Whole Lotta Rosie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJ9h7R2PCQ

Jam instrumental (Por Una Cabeza)/Patience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H_8XnLqWWw

Paradise City

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N361VhbLuU4

 : ok: thanks a lot for sharing!

...Can you hear people singing Por una cabeza??. Unbelievable and Amazing!

That moment really touch my heart. :love:
? ...si ella me olvida que importa perderme mil veces la vida, para qu? vivir...?

De nada :)

were you the one who shouted ?La puta que la pario???...hahaha! :rofl:

for those bootleg freaks like me, there's a 1280 x 720 w/lossless audio source available from this show. And its a great show. Not complete, but nearly  :beer:

I've listened to a lot of audio clips from 2001, 2002, 2006-7, and of this on going tour and I have to say that the Out to Get Me performance from this show just blows me away, the band is tight and axl of course in fine vocal and physical form. I wish they played this song more though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpexrSe8PKk

Amazing !!!!

It's great !!!

Was the whole show aired?

No  :-[.

We wanted a broadcasted show, but, we didn't have it.

I'm still remembering GNR show. Ahhhh.  :love: I want more!!!!

Manteca, thanks for the vids!

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Man, I would sell my soul (or at least whats left of it) for returning in time and live that night once more...  :drool:

Me too.  :drool:

This was awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5AKp0YrShw

I was also remembering the female underwear that was thrown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjTNKo0T7tg&feature=related

 :peace:

Guns N´Roses
22.03.2010
Estadio José Amalfitani
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Media: 2 DVDs5
Version: [Dailybetter (http://dailybetter.com.ar/)]
Filming type: Screenshot/Stageshot
Video format: NTSC
Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Total running time: 2:30min(approx.)
Video Quality: ``A´´
Audio Quality: ``A´´

Soon  :beer:

 Where? I can't find the info. I'd like to have it  :)

Here, tati: http://dailybetter.com.ar/tracker/index.php

Thanks. Kiss