Here Today... Gone To Hell!

For all the guys that buy gnr bootlegs on ebay:

BE CAREFULL!!

RECENTLY ARE CIRCULATING A LOT OF FAKES EXPECIALLY (PRO-CDR-S ).

Don't ever buy from this users:

- FORTUS_2008 (Hungary)---> Now He is selling a fake copy of a Power Gate Boots called "City of Illusion" and a fake copy of "Democracy at Tokyo") This Users changes always his username

- BRUTAL.FINDS (Japan) ---> He sells fake copy of: "Democracy at Osaka", "Democracy at Tokyo", "1988 Tour Special", "San Diego 1988"

- BRAVE NEW 2008 (Buenos AireS)---> Sells fake copy of "Last American Hero"(2007 Concert), and other gnr boot like "Accidental fucking Discharge" and "Don't fucking kill each other" . This Users changes always his username


YOU FIND THEM ON EBAY USA: PLEASE INFORM ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND WRITE TO THESE USERS TO STOP THIS! THEY ARE RIPPING OF COLLECTORS.

have you got any proof of this?.........

ive just checked FORTUS_2008 feedback and he's sold some cool gnr boots all with great feedback and it all seems legit from what ive seen
BRUTAL.FINDS has also got cracking feedback and sold some pretty cool stuff
im saying i dont belive you but some proof or more info would be good

YES I HAVE SEEM THE CD'S THE GUY SOLD THE CDR'S LOOK TOTLEY DIFFERENT THAN THE REAL 1'S SOLD

^^^^^^^^^^^
have you got any pics

You can easily trust in what locker and me are saying.
Recently a lot of fakes cds are been sold on ebay... don't ever buy any copy of Democracy at Tokyo/Osaka or every other shows from 2009...they are all fakes.
You can find the original ones only in Japan. These sellers are all suckers.

Anyway, there was a fake edition of "London Calling" - Marquee 1987 Boots on sale in Ebay UK, I have contacted the sellers and told him to remove this items and he has do it. Some minutes ago I have sent a report to fortus_2008 for the fake copy of "City of Illusion" - Wien 1992, I hope ebay will do something..

I'll let you know

im not saying i dont beleive you.............its just that when a seller has sold over a 1000 items and he has 100% positive feedback it is kinda hard not to trust him if the item he is selling looks ok in the pics
democracy at tokyo etc are from japan but other countries do have them now and some sellers will be selling legit items

I'll give you an example:

"LONDON CALLING" MARQUEE 1987 - METAL SWORD RECORDS

I have bought it one year ago from The user "kamkamgnr" before he changed his account in "fortus_2008"

FAKE

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5241/londoncallingl.jpg)

ORIGINAL ONE

(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9876/frontmx.jpg)

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2047/londoncallingcd1.jpg)

"CITY OF ILLUSION" WIEN 1992 POWER GATE

FAKE:

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/84/gnrcityofillusionfull.jpg)

ORIGINAL ONE:

(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9862/frontmqy.jpg)

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3292/35644220.jpg)


About the items sold by the users "brutal.finds" they are 100% all fakes, you can see the TDK marks on the cds  :hihi:

cheers for the pics

i collect mostly vinyl and dont really bother with cd's so its nice to get some info from experienced guys who already own the originals
the 'city of illusions' cd set could look legit to the untrained eye and almost had me fooled  :-[  :hihi:
also the 'london calling' fake looks more original than the original
when ive finished collecting all the vinyl (not long to go now) ill start with the cd's  :peace:

to be fair though, most of the stuff they are selling are fetching good prices and it must be a die hard collector to be paying that sort of money for it. if a die hard collector is paying good money for a fake which is sold as original and cant tell the difference then it must be good fake.

The difference is minimal,
but I prefer spend a lot of money for an original and not for a copy..

yes thats true. i would rather spend money and know im getting an original  : ok:

"Power Gate" and "Metal Sword" only issued CD-R discs. On the pictures, what you call original CDs, all discs is CD-R!! I don't understand, what's the problem the fake discs, if they are doing well and is not otherwise get elsewhere. I bought from fortus_2008, some other bootleg CD-R discs and I'm totally satisfied with the quality. This guy is a friendly seller and I will buy from him more CDs in the future.

PS.: I wouldn't buy TDK fake copies...

guys sorry for the inconvenience, but can sombody explain this to me as you would to a really stupid person??  :beer:

what's "fake" about a bootleg?....... is it the quality, do "originals" come from SB directly and they sell regular AUD we get from webbies claiming they're SB??

thx

When a bootleg company offers a bootleg with an unshared quality then I am fine with it.
From a collector's point of view a true bootleg company release is quite cool too, although I really don't see the point in buying CD-R-bootlegs at all.
The most annoying shit are bootleg releases of companies that obtained the recording the free way here or through torrents. I don't understand people (collectors or not) that are buying these things because they encourage bootleg rip-off-companies to do these things even more.

To summarize it:
- a Silver CD bootleg is ok for me, especially if it has a source that hasn't been shared before
- CD-R-booltlegs are a no-go
- bootlegs that have the audio source that is available for free are a waste of money, no matter what anyone else is trying to say

Its not necessary that you explain to me what Power Gate and Metal Sword do.I know they make CD-Rs, and I have a lot of this releases...but this user sells copy of cdr, I have posted some pics so I can say that what I'm telling you is right.
I have bought London Calling from Him and it was a fake. The live from Wien 1992 its a fake.
I have tons of contact and Japan site where the "real" release are shown and these cdr (on ebay) aren't like these.

Anyway I have warned all of you if you want to buy a fake do it.

If you want the real Metal Sword - Power Gate - Langley release buy them in Japan.

the majority of those releases, be it on silver pressed CD or cheap CDR, has the only goal to make money from bands performances!

this should always be a no-go!

live recordings in general are some "grey era" but to rip off the band with it??!? come on!!!
and let alone most of the "new" releases are just downloaded sources from torrent sites, making money from freeware so to say, mostly inferior quality, too!

Totley!

AGAIN!!!!!!

THIS TIME IS AN ACES HIGH FAKE!!!!!!!

INCREDIBLE !!!

LIVE AT BUDOKAN 1988!!!!

attention to this seller: brutal.finds

LOOK:

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/BrutalFinds/March%20GY%202010/GNR-Japan-Dec10-1988-CD1.jpg)

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/BrutalFinds/March%20GY%202010/GNR-Japan-Dec10-1988-CD2.jpg)

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/BrutalFinds/March%20GY%202010/GNR-Japan-Dec10-1988-front.jpg)

MORE:

THE SPIRIT OF '88

FAKE:

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/BrutalFinds/March%20GY%202010/GNR-Japan-Dec7-1988-display.jpg)

ORIGINAL:

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6186/dscn1022z.jpg)

1987 TOUR SPECIAL (FAKE)

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/BrutalFinds/March%20GY%202010/GNR-1987TourSpecial-Display.jpg)

1988 TOUR SPECIAL (FAKE)

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/BrutalFinds/Feb2010/GNR-1988TourSpecial-display.jpg)

TOKYO MONARCHY (FAKE)

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/BrutalFinds/January%202009/GNR-Tokyo2009-display.jpg)

OSAKA 2009 (FAKE)

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/BrutalFinds/Feb2010/GNR-Osaks2009-display.jpg)

i just got this today and could you tell me if its real or fake... 'alternatives for destruction' Red Devil KOREA in Digipak

(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/wadey9/alternativesfordestruction-1.jpg)

what do you consider real or fake? there is no "real" bootleg. they are all made from sources that are floating around, pressed on cd etc.
so thats just another japan rip off as it seems

+1 on my Karma scale.

the only "real" CD's there are , in my opinion, are released by the label.

for real bootlegs I mean silver pressed cds or PRO-CDRS,
the CDRS in questions are all Fakes, If you read with attention my post before reply, you can see the REAL ONE compared with the FAKES.

This user is selling bootlegs copy, do you understad?

If you want buy something from him do it, but you will buy a fake.

ha! i have that one! alternatives for destruction.The quality is kinda shitty though :hihi:

About that bootleg it is real, it's easy to see it (digipack/silver cd)...
I have it too..

The other that I have shown are cdr(TDK) with covers

not listened to it yet, it arrived in a bundle today  : ok:

To clarify. These are not "fake"

The ones you see, for example from the Brutal.Finds seller, are ones made in OSAKA... the more professional ones are made by a bootlegger in TOKYO.

For whatever reason the TOKYO ones are of a more professional quality than the OSAKA made ones, but never the less they are equally "offical" as any bootleg can get.

how do I know?

I LIVE IN JAPAN.

I know the store this was bought from. I tried to buy a copy for myself but they are sold out!

Furthermore, THESE ARE BOOTLEGS! ! ! calling one a fake vs another is a bit rediculous... ripping off collectors!? how about the band thats getting ripped of in the 1st place?

I'm bothering to write this because one of the items you have linked to I had a bid on and now it has been pulled by ebay!!!

now GNR bootlegs are going to be flagged along with Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin and a host of others that are now increasingly impossible to find selling on ebay.

IF YOUR NOT INTERESTED IN THE ITEM THEN DONT BID ON IT, simple as that. Whoever it was that brought it the attention of the ebay authorities is a complete MORON.

These boots are copies of the boots made by various label (ACES HIGH - SEE NO EVIL - LOST AND FOUND).
I know that recently most of the new bootlegs releases are PRO-CDR but that sellers sells copies of these.
He is ripping off collectors.

Why a person who lives in Japan buy boots on ebay???
You have the possibility to get all the boots that you want for low prices.
You have bootlegs shop and online bootlegs shop only for japan users where bootleg are sold for ridiculous prices!

You can buy boots for 2000-3000Y for example on Yahoo Japan Auctions.
We could buy the same boots for 6000-8000Y.

What you are saying it's ridiculous

Maybe he is working for that rip off label ;)

 ;D

These guys post pictures of everything, who are they ripping off? I can see what they are selling. If I'm interested in it, I'll buy it.

What I don't understand are these do-gooder dickheads that report bootlegs to ebay. I've had a number of items I've bid on get yanked before they finish. These guys are just shooting themselves in the foot. Very irritating.


Of course I buy Japanese bootlegs here.
Sometimes I have no choice, because I can't find it.
I use Yahoo Auctions all the time, but it can be a huge hassle to pay with all the kanji shit at the ATM machines etc...
The Japan bootlegger sites are the same way.


Funny... :smoking: