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Jan 28 2010

Jamie Foxx, T-Pain, Slash, Doug E. Fresh Team Up For Grammys

Sunday's awards show will also feature collaboration by Drake, Eminem, Lil Wayne and Travis Barker.

As the countdown to Sunday night's 52nd annual Grammy Awards begins, the show just keeps getting bigger and bigger. On the heels of the Thursday morning's (January 28) announcement that Drake will be joined on the stage by Eminem, Lil Wayne and Travis Barker (but not Kanye West), likely for a performance of "Forever," comes news that Jamie Foxx will hook up with T-Pain, Slash and Doug E. Fresh for a special performance of an as-yet-unannounced song at the show.

Other new performers announced on Thursday include Elton John and the cast of the musical "American Idiot," who will perform with Green Day. There will also be a tribute to late guitar legend/inventor Les Paul, featuring Rock and Roll Hall of Fame member Jeff Beck and Irish rockabilly singer Imelda May. Also signed up to perform on the show are R&B legend Roberta Flack, Sugarland member Jennifer Nettles and a number of new presenters, including Stephen Colbert, Alice Cooper, Sheryl Crow, Robert Downey Jr., Wyclef Jean, Miranda Lambert, John Legend, Jennifer Lopez, Katy Perry, Seal, Quentin Tarantino, Simon Baker, Kaley Cuoco, Placido Domingo, Juanes, "Glee" actress Lea Michele, Chris O'Donnell, Lionel Richie, Ryan Seacrest and Keith Urban.

Previously announced presenters include Kristen Bell, Justin Bieber, Jeff Bridges, Miley Cyrus, Josh Duhamel, the Jonas Brothers, Norah Jones, Ke$ha, LL Cool J, Ricky Martin, Carlos Santana and Ringo Starr.

Those stars join a list of previously announced performers: Beyonc?, the Black Eyed Peas, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Green Day, Bon Jovi, Dave Matthews Band, Lady Antebellum, Maxwell, Pink, the Zac Brown Band and a special 3-D tribute to Michael Jackson featuring Celine Dion, Jennifer Hudson, Smokey Robinson, Carrie Underwood, and Usher. Special 3-D glasses for the Jackson segment will be available at Target stores through Sunday. Mary J. Blige and Andrea Bocelli will sing Simon & Garfunkel's "Bridge Over Troubled Water" in a special fundraising segment for Haitian earthquake relief.

The official, circus-themed Grammy Celebration afterparty will feature performances from Ne-Yo, Sam and Dave member Sam Moore, and mixtape DJ Mick Boogie.

Stick with MTV News all week for our coverage of the 2010 Grammy Awards. We'll have reports on your favorite nominees, party photos, behind-the-scenes video and much more leading up to and during the big show Sunday at 8 p.m. ET.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1630669/20100128/foxx_jamie.jhtml

Jamie Foxx, T-Pain and Doug E. Fresh...I didn't see this one coming. :D

 ??? I try not to criticize all of Slash's collaborations. I actually think Fergie can sing. But this I don't know about  :nervous:

I think that this should be interesting and I personally cannot wait to see it!

I think it be cool to hear Slash on a Talkbox and T-Pain vocod'ed lol. It's good that Slash doesn't restrict himself to doing or playing certain things. By the way if you guys haven't heard/seen Travis Barker play "Forever" the song that he is most likely gonna do with Wayne and Drake I suggest you youtube it , good stuff!

At clives pre gammy party with the black eyed peas! So fun!

Photo: http://tweetphoto.com/10054262

Slash & Fergie performed "Sweet Child O' Mine" at the Pre-Grammy Gala:

US singer Fergie (left) and British-born former Guns N' Roses guitarist Slash perform at the Pre-Grammy Gala at the Beverly Hilton Hotel in Beverly Hills. The star-studded event was part of the 2010 Grammy Salute To Industry Icons honored Universal Music Group Worldwide Chairman Doug Morris. The Academy presented Morris with the President's Merit Award in recognition of his significant contributions to the music industry and the impact his efforts have had on music and the business of music. -- PHOTO: AFP

Some photos:

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&p=slash%20fergie%20grammy

http://www.grammy.com/photos/pre-grammy-gala-slash-and-fergie?page=30

It doesn't sound like it went over very well...

The Peas, who are up for six Grammys, performed their hit "Boom Boom Pow," then Fergie was joined by Slash as she performed the Guns N' Roses classic, "Sweet Child of Mine," which garnered applause ? but not enough for will.i.am's liking.

"Usually Fergie and Slash on stage would have brought down the house. This ain't no boogie (expletive)," he admonished the crowd. "Music industry, we can't be spoiled," he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=9711595

Good awards show so far.  I am pumped to see the Slash performance, I hope it rocks, part of me wondering if its a micheal jackson tune..  Pink is so sexy.

oy fuckin vey ... tell me he seriously did not just play NR  ::)

Oh christ, he butchered that solo.

I don't know what was worse, the presence of the NR outro in a Jamie Foxx rap song or Slash's completely incompetent performance.

Goddamnit Slash.

I don't get it!?!?!  Slash did rip though, but not sure the point of that performance..

He did?

I think Ron Thal sounded better his first show with GnR.

That was a terrible performance.

that wasnt  NR outro.. kinda similar but I don't think it was.. guitar was kind of low so Im not 100 percent positive

Just that... Slash played November Rain Outro in Grammy's Awards 2010... When I found the video on you Tube, I'll post it

I dunno, man.

It really sounded like the NR outro, just played very poorly.

I hope Axl saw that.

That was his new sig les paul I think.I think he played well! 

that was def a butchered , version of NR solo, sucked hard also!!!!

Yikes. I respect your opinion, but, wow, that new Les Paul may have been out of tune.

Not sure what you were listening to, but i flicked the grammys on right as he was playing the "nr outro" and though i was hearing things. That was most certainly parts of the nr outro played horribly. Why does he continue to do this kind of stuff?

So was the highlight the pretty new guitar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrHVGzkKnDQ  if you can get through the "auto tune" party its at the end of the vid!! ;D

I dont know if I will dare to click on it, but anyway, is there a Youtube link or anything to see what Slash has done at the grammys?

NR though is down in the 20's on the fretboard right? like 20 full bended or something

Slash was in the 15 fret range... so i dont know if it was in a different key or what......

I always say how I am "honest' on forums and if that was NR, I am pretty disappointed and that was very very lame.

just watched it

that was the LAMEST thing i've seen from Slash, and damn it I have seen lame things from him

Disgusting, pathetic, horrible. Trust me I would have played it better (and I cant even play the ''happy birthday'' in the guitar)

But what's really worse is the context where Slash introduced that disgusting melodies.

Enough, Slash. Axl needs to do something quick to stop him. This is even worst than that Paradise City shit he did recently.

YEah they took that vid down real fast, lol and thank god, serious... all he does now is butcher his own shit talking about tarnishing GNR... guess he couldnt be creative enough to write something cool at least, or maybe take a solo from VR or something................

I get mashups and I don't have a huge problem although they are lame

Whoever was in charge of his guitar sound needs fired........... thats twice I have heard Slash play and his guitar just sounds dead.... weak distortion, low volume.... terrible.

I grabbed it. Gonna up it soon.

I'm really shocked. I'm truly starting to believe he does these kinds of things on purpose.


oh come the fuck on! He played it BADLY, HORRIBLY, no matter the technical problems that guitar could have (techincal problems in instruments in a live Grammy stream? really?)

The audio was terrible for the BEP performance as well... That type of performance can be hard to pull off good audio... If he gets is sound burried or lost, even the best can get out of pitch..  I am not making excuses, but the song with Beth Hart tells me he hasn't lost a fucking thing.  He rocks.  I have seen John Sykes, Neal Schon all have issues live, especially playing in a one off odd situation and with out their sound guys.. And I still thought it was cool.

Yes you are.  That 'performance' was pathetic and awful.

Grab that video here, if you want:

http://rapidshare.com/files/344147389/SLASH-GRAMMYS-2010-ESTEBANF.flv

Damn, you fuckers come out of the woodwork... Can't wait for album to come out so you can hate on that too..

Fuck Slash for having the decency to give us a collaboration with Izzy, and then one with Adler. The album will surely blow. (I am practicing). :nervous:

This thread isn't about his upcoming album.  It's about his pathetic and awful performance at the Grammy Awards.  : ok:

stay on topic, gypsy is correct!

I didn't like the performance of anyone on the stage except Slash. Their songs were turds, and you can't polish a turd. Even is Slash's tone and playing was perfect, he was playing on an overall shitty performance.

It's very narrow-minded around here. Slash was there merely to have some fun with some friends , NR was part of the whole opera style over the top shit Foxx had going on. It was NEARLY as bad as everyone is making it seems! It was raw and not loud enough by any means though. But all in all a fun thing to watch.

I still don't know why he wouldn't have been on the Les Paul Tribute with Jeff Beck?!

Yeah.  It's all the lead singer's fault!!!  :rofl:

The Jeff Beck thing was cool!  Beck is the Man..  I would have loved to hear Slash play Vocalise. 

Since the other link has been removed, he's another one.  What was that. ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYDNwghALQI

I agree to a point.  That performance was just beyond awful.  That has to be among the worst grammy performances in history, if not the very worst ever.  That was just horrendous from the start.  And while Slash may not have been able to save the performance, he certainly didn't do anything to help it at all.  Honestly, I don't think I've seen anything that bad in a long time.

That was really shitty.  Worst performance of NR ever.  Complete disgrace to GNR.  What the fuck are you doing Slash?

What a fuckin mess!  Auto-tune, out-of-tune, and just not in tune with reality.  I've given Slash the benefit of the doubt before, but to sign on for this shit, and then to damage November Rain like that is just sickening.  For shame!

Wow, I'm not even going to watch this.   Sad how pathetic this guy has stooped.   Should just move on and do his VR/Solo thing.

Well I imagine these things are done to increase his exposure which in the end will help his solo work.  I mean, that performance itself couldn't have done anything to help.  But the fact that he was SEEN tonight, on American Idol, at the Super Bowl, etc.  That seems to be his goal. 

Am I reading correctly that he played the NR solo over a rap tune?

Yeah, over an auto tuned rap tune.  It was beyond awful.  And Slash really didn't sound too good himself.  I don't know if he was trying to play the NR outro note for note or not.  If he was, he failed miserably.

Yes, watch it Jim Bob, you know you want to. Slash played the November Rain outro with Jamie foxx, T-Pain and Doug E. Fresh.

no one can dispute that his guitar was super low in the mix and it didn't have any edge to it. so that was a giant part of why it sounded so bad. That Rose Bowl with Fergie thing had the same problem


over all though, YES it is very very lame and shitty of him to do this over that shit auto tune stuff

very disappointed in Slash at the moment.

From an interview I just saw posted elsewhere with Slash this was Jamie Foxx's idea as he called Slash about it. Slash says he was initially skeptical, but thinks the final thing was going to turn out pretty cool after having rehearsed it. He did say it was the most eclectic collaboration he has ever done.

Maybe he should use some more discretion in saying yes when presented with collaboration ideas.

I do wish he had been higher in the mix though. It was not his best sounding tone ever, but the guitar was awfully low in the mix as I would like to have heard it better.

The sun will rise tomorrow.  For the haters, this will all be forgotten soon anyway, still cool to see him.

Considering its a song he claimed he hated and didn't want to do.. its just a little bit silly.

considering even D hates it, I'll take that as enough reason to not watch it. 

Only the biggest slash fanboys are praising it and they'd praise a bucket of slash's feces.

Jim Bob, you have to watch it. This is a vindication of everything you have been telling people about Slash for years now. It's like putting a beer in front of an alcoholic and them picking that moment too quite drinking. You just need to do it.

I know he was a great part of GNR< and its history.. but I seriously would wish he would stand more on really his things, .. ya know new things, like new things..but in the scheme of things, today and now after how many yrs .. he chose that and butchered himself with it.. thats fucked upped just plain and simple.......!!

All the rappers sucked tonight except for Eminem, that guy is awesome.

Jim Bob, it does Suck, but it sucks with or without Slash...  Nothing he played could have made that performance sound good.  

Nah, if I want to hear November Rain I will youtube performances from the current tour or perhaps even 2006.

Didn't he just donate a brand new unreleased song for the people of Haiti?  Doesn't he have a new solo album coming out?

The Grammy's are a joke anyway. I watched most of the show, and the only performance that was really good was the tribute to Michael Jackson, although I also liked DMB and Bon Jovi's performances.

But yeah, on a night of lame performances, the Jamie Foxx one was by far the worst. I didn't know Slash was supposed to perform during it, so I had changed the commercial because it was hurting my ears. I turned back to it briefly and there was Slash in the middle of all these lame rappers, playing November Rain's aborted fetus.

I love Slash, but pretty much everything he does nowadays proves that Axl's right about Slash being a sell-out. Slash has done a lot of questionable things, but this was rock bottom. Pretty bad considering he just played on a Rihanna song, too. For a guy who likes to brag about integrity, he sure doesn't show any of it anymore.

OMG, Slash played live on a bad song!!!!!  KILL HIM, KILL HIM AT ONCE!!!!    ::)

At the Super Bowl next week he and Will i Am (Blacked Eyed Peas) are releasing a remix version of The Who's "My Generation."

It is Slashmania out there right now as he is popping up everywhere, and if it seems bad now, just wait until it kicks into hyper drive when he releases his album in April.

Yes, getting out of control.  The End of Days are near... 

It's not just that he played on a bad song, but with a bunch of completely lame, talentless wannabes. Jaime Foxx is a good actor and that's what he should stick to. Slash is starting to become a joke, and he's already proven to be a hypocrite. Teenage Slash would've bitchslapped the sell-out Slash we see now.

this is true.. but i dont care about that.   Its to be expected these das.

only thing that bothers me is the whoring of a classic Guns N' Roses song (which he admittedly didn't like or want to do) like this and butchering it with Jamie Foxx.

Just like that Paradise City bullshit that was released with Cypress Hill/Fergie.  Dude should focus on his own songs.

I read the comments first and then watched the video and WOW!  Some of you haters need to chill the fuck out.
I think Slash was onstage for under one minute and as D pointed out, he was intentionally playing the NR outro in a different position on the fretboard.  (Like he often did on the UYI tour). 

Some of you need to realize that musicians like to jam.  Amazing how quickly everyone forgets the awesome LAYN show were Slash nailed every single note.

Its also funny how some people try to point out that Slash is just a "blues player" and then he does something different like Mother Maria.

You guys get funnier all the time.  I bet you all hate the solo album already?

 nopew just commenting on his renditon, , and suck slash all you want, it sucked!!!,
and further I hope he has a great solo album, I am anticipating him finally breaking away and creating memorible solos again, something that he did at one time... you miss my point I guess, but hey whatever!.

I must say that was very amusing. I just had to laugh at that. He was out of tune at the start and I can't figure out how the NR outro fits in with  ... whatever it is that the others were doing. I'll chalk this down to another poor decision by Slash to get involved in that 'performance' and hope he just disassociates himself a bit from Will.i.am.crap and the Black Eyed Peas in the future, for his own good.  In the run up to the album however, this doesn't really matter.

That wasnt aimed at you.   :)
but instead at the usual people who never credit Slash when he does something awesome but pop up quickly as soon as he does something like this.
The people that hate his solo album already.

I dont think Slash played particuarly badly, but as a whole the spectacle was excrutiatingly bad, it was bloody awful  :no:

Well, that was certainly fucking embarrassing.

Way to be a whore, Slash.

hey guys... relax
he just try many different things... some are awesome and some others not for watching (ex: the grammys awards)... i just didnt't like it... but this doesn't mean slash is over or anyhting else
it seems that he tries to combine rock with other kinds of music... sometimes fits and sometimes... :-X

he's Slash... the same person who made a successful career with GNR! that's enough for me!

wow, that was insanely bad.. i've never heard that solo been played worse than that, lucky for him it was so low in the mix... i could go on but there's no need :hihi:

Exactly.  if only everyone thought the same :)

I agree that this sucks.  I just don't understand why he does these Jams.  maybe its boredom, maybe it helps keep him off drink, drugs and cigarettes, maybe perla pushes him into it.

Im a huge fan of Slash's playing and HIS projects, but he could lose all these jams with BEP and other rappers.  His work in GNR, contraband and his solo stuff so far is awesome.

Having said that, lets look at the profile of some other cool rockstars.

Ozzy - Did the Osbournes and released a single with Kelly.
Dave Navarro - That reality TV show with Carmen Electra, jamming with christina aguilera.
Alica Cooper - did some commercial for TVs.
Iggy Pop - has done a number of commercials.
Brian May and Roger Taylor - Appeared on X Factor.
Jimmy Page - played kashmir with P Diddy.
Steve Tyler and Joe Perry - appeared in a movie and played Cryin with Christina Milian.
GNR - played instrumental of We are Beautiful at a number of shows.

All these things could be considered "selling out" but then we'd have no rockstars left.  You gotta grow up and not let shit like this upset you.

I think the Black Eyed Peas are a bad influence on him. Whenever he does crap like this, you can be sure either Fergie or Will.i.am are involved. He needs to get some new friends.

you just compared playing a great song as a solo during live shows with reality shows and shooting stupid commercials
kinda messed up man..

None of these are musical arguments. Brian and Roger have done tons of criticizable things, specially Brian, but i've never seen Brian playing the innuendo solo badly, out of tune, and overalll: SADLY, with a bunch of fucking rappers, just to seek some attention and $$$.


ANd that was one of the most incredible rock/rap mashups ever done. That was a rapper singing his style over a perfectly well played masterpiece. There's no way you can make a parallelism between these 2 performances.


Again, not a musical argument here. If Slash wants to appear in Teletubbies I would never say anything about that.


What's the problem with that? how many other instrumental things GNR has done better than that song? Except for that ''christina aguilera > gay'' complex some of you may have, I dont think there's any problem to play a Linda Perry song in a GNR concert. To me, ''Beautiful'' is the most *beautiful* guitar solo / guitar duet GNR has ever done (today's Richard James Bond Theme fucking rocks too).

Slash didnt play it out of tune though.  he played it on a different part of the fretboard, obviously intentionally unless he no longer remembers his frets.
As far as i know artists don't get paid to play at the grammies so that rules out the $$$.
Rappers are more credible to me than X Factor or American idol wannabes.

Maybe for you its a muscial arguement but most people are criticizing the principle. 

If its a musical arguement, he is intentionally playing the part in a different position on the fretboard and he is so low in the mix that its hard to make out anyways.

Dave Navarro - That reality TV show with Carmen Electra, jamming with christina aguilera.


Dude was married to Carmen and the song he did w/ Christina Aguilera was great

Apparently Slash has a great song on the solo album with Fergie though, yet some people (not you) put the idea down all the time.

If you WANT to dislike something you will end of story.

You could certainly make the argument that Slash agreed to do that horrific collaboration for the exposure, which was aimed to increase sales of his upcoming solo album.  So yes, in a sense, he DID do it for money.  It's all about money, let's not kid ourselves.

Or maybe have you come to the thought it's in a different key because the BACKING to the song they are playing is in a different key?

Of course their is money involved but I'm certain he didn't think this 30 second spot was going to RACK the sales of the album out. That's retarded. He did it for a fun time and it was cool hearing it played again.

Exactly and thats what a lot of people on this board do to Slash.  Yet im not so sure why they bother to comment at all.
They'll probably be the first people to post negative reviews the day before the solo album comes out.

Here is a better quality video of the performance and a TV Guide interview on the red carpet:

Interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPqBJdeH8tk

Performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dplJhS0hOZ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgMWd-T6OBA

Edit to add one more:

SLASH: Interview, Performance Footage From GRAMMY AWARDS Available - Feb. 1, 2010

Legendary guitarist Slash (GUNS N' ROSES, VELVET REVOLVER) was interviewed at at music mogul Clive Davis' pre-Grammy gala at Los Angeles' Beverly Hilton Hotel on Saturday night (January 30) before he performed the GUNS N' ROSES classic "Sweet Child O' Mine" with the THE BLACK EYED PEAS. He also spoke to TV Guide at last night's (January 31) 52nd annual Grammy Awards, where he hooked up with Jamie Foxx, T-Pain and Doug E. Fresh for a special performance. According to the Nashville Scene, Slash inexplicably popped onstage to play his trademark "November Rain" solo during an already inexplicable Foxx and T-Pain homage to Auto-Tune.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=134364
 

Give me a break.  He did this for FUN!  That's laughable.  He did it for the exposure, plain and simple.  That performance looked as far away from fun as I've ever seen.  So if he did do it for "fun" as you claim.  He failed miserably.  Nobody had fun watching that Slash.  It was painful.

I dont see were the exposure is though, he was only onstage for 30 seconds or so.  Most people probably didnt even notice him. 

Im not sure why he did it though.  i think whenever Slash is not in a band or the ball is not totally rolling with his album release and tour, he does all these jams.  probably to avoid boredom and slipping into doing drugs again.

Slash is known to have issues with boredom and doing drugs in his down time.

i liked it!  :)

Slash still has this special guitarist aura most others are lacking!

It's exposure just being there.  He was on the red carpet and did an interview with Ryan Secrest.  He played with Jamie Foxx and T-Pain, audiences that probably weren't very aware of Slash but now at least can put a face to the name.  

You might be right that people may not have noticed him though because I'm sure a lot of people switched the channel before Slash even came onstage.  I mean, I certainly wouldn't have sat through that if I didn't know Slash was coming on.  That was just so excruciatingly bad.

That's funny because i did and I actually seen and know many others did too. I'm sure the 30 second spot is going to sky rocket sales. Did you see Joe Perry play with Katy Perry at the VMA's last year? Sometimes people just do stuff to DO It. The album was never even mentioned in the interview or anything.

How did it look far from fun? T-Pain Foxx and Fresh looked like they where having fun and Slash came on to jam out.

Read back what you bolded.  I said nobody had fun WATCHING that.  Obviously the performers had fun, but I bet they wouldn't be smiling so much if they watched the replay.

Okay, you got me.  Slash does everything just for fun, cares nothing about exposure or selling himself.  The fact that he has a solo album coming out this year has nothing to do with him showing up on American Idol, the Grammy's, the Super Bowl.  All just mere coincidences.

Thanks for setting me straight.  : ok:

Yeah, but I WANT to like what Slash does but that thing last night was just plain awful. The song sounded like shit to begin with and Slash playing the NR outro over it added nothing. I have to think Perla or someone pushes him into some of these things. He didn't even look comfortable up there.

I love Slash and can't wait to hear his solo album. That grammy performance was pretty embarrassing, man butchering his own solo, not cool not cool.

I mentioned that above. I get the feeling that Perla likes going to awards shows and hanging out with celebrites etc.
Didnt some members of VR hate perla?  And Scott mentioned something about the wives being around them too much.

Slash claims it was Jamie Foxx's idea and he called him to do it.

He doesn't have to say yes, but I think people are unrealistic sometimes about how things like this are important to at least keeping his name out in the public.

How many other lead guitarists from the 80's in their mid/late 40's are still thought of as being cool or relevant out there? Outside of Slash, I can't really think of any.

If he had just faded into obscurity (which is essentially what alot of people are advocating he should do), there is no way he gets to do half of things he gets to do. His solo album would not happen, or at least not with the roster of singers he managed to pull together.

The music industry now is a young man's game, and in a world where lead guitarists are this side short of extinct it behooves Slash to do these sorts of appearances as he has carved himself out a niche as being the goto guitarist for things like this. Which is really not a bad gig if you can get it.

The amusing side of this discussion is how people think they know why Slash does a certain thing.
The fact is that the solo was terrible and the jam didn't work out. Anything else is just conjecture.

I completely agree.  Some people need to come to grips though and admit that this is the case.  Slash isn't doing everything "just for fun".  There's a lot of reasoning behind making these appearances, and quite a few are much higher on the list than "having fun".  He does have to keep his name out there and make people aware he's still relevant.  I don't blame him for that.  But you can't deny that's what he's doing and that that performance last night was awful.

And again, with or without Slash, that performance was awful.  It's just a shame that Slash was involved with such a horrendous performance.  But, in the end of it all, it really doesn't matter.  It's not going to prevent any potential customers from buying his solo album.  It was really a no lose situation for Slash.  People were going to hate the performance even if it was "decent", but his appearance on the show keeps him in the limelight.  Just like going on American Idol, the Super Bowl, Ellen, Conan, etc.  When you make that many appearance you're gonna have some that hit and some that miss, but the main goal is to keep yourself in the limelight.  If nothing else, Slash has mastered that.

It works both ways.  People saying he does these things "for fun" or for "business" are both offering opinions.  I'm sure he has fun doing these things, but I'm also sure that the ultimate goal is to enhance his brand and image.  Why wouldn't it be?

You're putting a negative spin on that, but I don't think what he does matters. I want to see the artists I like perform as much as they can. If they make more money from that, hey, more power to them. I know what music I like and the things I don't, I give them a miss. If something good comes out of these collaborations, then I get to listen to some new music. I don't believe in fans putting their idols on pedestals and dictating whom they should be playing with and what kind of music they should produce.


I was speaking for both parties. Either opinion is just that - opinion.

Yes I know, and I said I had fun and I know others who did too. You are being a pompous jackass. I didn't say he does EVERYTHING for fun. Of course he has to expose himself and stay in the loop. He hosted American Idol a year ago , he was on the grammys for 30 seconds. Really if he is doing it for the purpose of selling records he really sucks at it. It's a mix of both but a lot of people here make it seem like the man is a jaded dick who is in it for nothing more than money.

All in all it is just opinion nothing is  fact , we simply DON'T know and we all just assume. I mean for christ's sake some are blaming his WIFE. Slash has been doing these things for a very long time he played with P.Diddy and Cypress Hill long before VR....

I think it's understood that every apperance made by a celebrity is to expose themselves and further their name , but sometimes those apperances are fun for the parties involved.

So nice of you to resort to insults. It's so becoming of you.

Here's my two cents: That was embarrassing for everyone - including the fans.  Whether you are neutral, on "Axl's side" or on "Slash's side" it was a pittaful attempt to remain "in the limelight."

I love old GNR and the current lineup.  I've always found it pathetic for Slash to be playing old GNR songs with popstars or whomever will "jam" with him.  It's almost like he's screaming "HEY, REMEMBER ME?!?!  I PLAYED THIS SONG BACK IN THE DAY & I'M STILL HERE!"  LOL

On another note: That song in particular was a poor choice.  November Rain is a quintissential "AXL" song.  I believe Axl has full writing credit as well.  While Slash played the solo on Illusion I, it will always be - at least in my mind -- an "Axl song."  Therefore, in my opinion, Slash knows full well that it just might get under Axl's skin to see him playing "HIS" song on such a large stage, which only furthers the rift between them. 

To quote Simon Cowell - "A terrible song choice..."

I also feel like throwing in my two cents... ;)

I'm a big fan of Slash - I think he's an amazing guitarist. However, this performance really did nothing for me and I did find myself cringing during the minute or so that he was onstage.  That aside, I am looking forward to the release of his new album.

Certainly I can understand keeping your name out there. I just wish he would choose these collaborations a little more carefully. Trying to play a guitar solo over that Jamie Foxx/T-Pain Alcohol song just sounds like a mess on paper and that's where the idea should have died.

Also, I'm not sure how much Slash is establishing HIS brand and image when he constantly references GNR in some of these things he does.

No. Axl,Slash,Izzy and Duff have writing credit on it.

I'm not insulting you. You are insinuating that I think Slash does everything for "fun" which is not the case at all.

because thats what he is known for? same image when being the lead guitarist of the world biggest band in the early 90s!

My opinion - didn't like this collaboration, but I like that these other "stars" recognize the talent and want to perform with him.  I also like that Slash can be open-minded.  And the beginning operatic part to the song was funny.  Agreed that auto-tune has had its time and now needs to go away.  Love the fact that I'm On A Boat was nominated - that shit is hilarious!  I think the best performance of the night was Pink.  Laslty - how the fuck can Black Ice be nominated for anything?  Not to mention songs from Death Magnetic or Black Ice?  Didn't they both come out in Sepetember of 2008???

embarrassing for the fans, insulting for the band.

How would that be an insult for the band?
I mean, the performance was weak and the solo doesn't fit the song at all, but some of you take this way too serious.

QFT

I was thinking that same exact thing earlier. He seems very much to want people to remember he was in GNR back in the day even though he has "moved on from guns"

Compared with Axl's disaster at the VMA's 2002, this was an OK performance ...
And ... he played it in the right tone of that song, jammed a little bit, that's also Slash.
Not that I'm a fan of this thing but he played he's part good. Nothing wrong with it.

I told u a couple of months ago.. Paradise City doesn't bother me, cause that song has been so commercialized, I have no attachment to it.. so he can play it with whomever..same with SCOM after Sheryl Crow and Taken By Trees covered it


NR and Estranged are no no's to me that u  just don't fuck with. Especially with that terrible autotune stuff.

I hate Black Eye Peas, Hate Jamie Foxx and all those want to be musicians with no talent

so this pisses me off cause Slash is my favorite guitar player of all time and I will defend him on most stuff.. This makes it very hard to defend him against people.

Nah, bad comparison... Axl picked it up enough on Madagascar and Paradise City to make up for it.. Jungle started out great till he blew himself up with the adrenaline spike.

Slash on this was terrible for multiple reasons


1. he is playing with shitty people
2. The song he is playing on sucks
3. His guitar tone and volume was terrible on this.
4. It is an all time great song u just don't fuck with

You just cant be serious...

when you think you've heard it all from slash fans, you come one random day to this forum and you find something like this.

But what surprises me even more is the guy giving writing credits to some other dudes apart from Axl in November Rain.

Axl wrote it all, idea/concept/music/lyrics. Just everything. Then there was a band instrumentally adapting that idea to give the song a concrete form. But November Rain is the biggest of all Axl's babies. There are multiple quotes and references proving NR was Axl's biggest obsession, that he worked on it for years, and that he didnt want any kind of help to finish it from nobody. I thought this was one of the clearest things among newbie GNR fans, but it seems its not EVEN in a place for real/hardcore fans like this one.

November Rain is probably the best example of an Axl Rose solo song. Sorry.

Why do Slash,Duff,Izzy have writing credits on it then? Did Axl just decide to be a pal and throw their name on as writers so they could get paid on it as well. Seems highly unlikely if they did nothing to deserve writing credits.

I dont know yours, but my UYI 1 booklet clearly says ''Rose'' in it.

And if you're looking into ASCAP or something like that, I have to let you know that Steven Adler has writing credits there in several songs, and we all know he didn't write a damn shit for guns.

''but he wrote the drumming''... oh yeah... and Ringo wrote the drumming for Yesterday and Hey Jude... come on...

I always defer to ASCAP over booklets. Artists don't write entire songs all by themselves and then split the pot by listing a bunch of people who didn't contribute in a substantive way just for fun.

Oh....wow....amazing...

Slash essentially played the solo from November Rain....

My freakin' hero

I didn't see anything wrong with it. This kind of stuff happens ALL the time at the Grammy's. Look at many past preformances.  The November Rain solo mixed in well with the song, surprisingly well. I'm not a huge rap fan, or a fan of the whole rock/rap scene, but I thought that was cool that Slash was able to play with those guys. I don't think he needs the PR, but he is releasing an album soon enough. Call it selling out if you want to, but if I wrote one of the biggests and more recognizable solo's in history I would want to preform it when I could...When was the last time he did that live?

Just watched this.  I don't know how anyone can even tell if the solo sucked or sounded good.  I couldn't hear shit.  The only thing that was barely even audible out of the Slash solo was the signature bends of November Rain.  Couldn't hear shit in between them.

In all fairness, Naupis, NR is very much an Axl Rose song. He wrote the main lyrics and came up with the concept and has been playing around with it since before Appetite, along with the pianos on it. Yes, some of Slash's best guitar work is on the song and he does have credits on it, just like Estranged, but people wouldn't be wrong if they said it was a Rose song.

But he just played the guitar part at the grammies.  No lyrics or anything.

Sorry that was OT. I wasn't talking about this performance, just replying to the comments on NR in general.

 :)  I agree that its mainly Axls song.  I hate when people say Slash hated it.  I don't think they have any evidence to back that up.

Axl has mentioned that he had to push Slash and Duff into working on NR and Estranged, since they didn't want to do such epic ballads, but I don't think Slash has himself stated that he 'hates' NR or Estranged.

I think i remember Slash saying that he was happy to do november rain and estranged but that he didnt want Guns to go in that direction in general.  but he still liked them songs.  ( I could be wrong).

In my opinion, issues like this most likely led to the break up as opposed to all the "its Slash's fault" or "its Axls fault".

I just get sick of that being the token excuse.  Whenever Slash does something questionable and people point it out and voice their opinions, inevitably the most common response is.  "Oh, come on, he's just having fun out there.  He loves to play.  Who are you to tell him what he can or can't do?"

Just because he's having fun doing what he loves to do that doesn't exonerate him from criticism.  Hopefully he's having fun doing ALL these things.  If not, it's even more sad.  But the man makes so many appearances some are gonna be good and some not so good.  This one was probably the worst.

I get were you are coming from but some people defend Slash because a lot of people tend to come out of hiding every so often to take a bash at him.
Take a read through the solo album thread.  when everything is positive, certain names don't comment.
But when he does something bad, these people come here in their numbers just to say how bad it is. 
But they never comment on how awesome the LAYN show was, or how exciting some of the collaborations on the solo album will be.
So i for one don't get how they can come here just to point out the negative things.

I could mention names but i wont for now.  but some people just hate Slash and dont make any effort to see all the positives.

That goes with the territory unfortunately.  People feel the need to have strong feelings one way or the other and that they have to choose a side.  That's why you see so many anti Slash posts here and anti Axl posts in the GNR section.  The fanbase is seriously divided, for better or worse.

I dont have a problem with him playing it live in the proper context... playing it with no talent wanna be hacks pisses me off.....

Say he were doing a les paul tribute or even Michael Jackson tribute and broke it off as a mashup over a famous MJ song... I'd have no problem with it.

You guys are crazy!  :o
He just jammed a solo he wrote, for 25 seconds, at the grammys, they wanted to do a mash up, the thing that fitted most from Slashs catalog was probably this, they dident spend a lot of time on this, just a fun surprise kind of thing.. And it was not that bad,Ive heard other GnR guitarists fuck up the classic solos in a far worse way than this..

Ouch, that was pretty horrible.
This goes into the "i don't remember that happening?" Slash archives.

I don't know for sure, but I bet when he was offered this he wasn't told that hed have to do the NR solo, they probably just asked him to be a part of it, then when he got there the organizers probably said lets do this. His playing didn't seem bad at all, I couldn't hear it, and if his playing was off if we couldn't hear it, he probably couldn't hear it, and i don't know how many of you have ever tried playing an insturment with out being able to hear what your playing but its pretty hard. But that being said I agree that the context it was done in was pretty dumb, but i still enjoyed it for what it was, him playing the NR solo. (i do find it funny that on his twitter the other day someone asked him if he plays i think that or Don't Cry ever, and he said no haha)

I dont sugar coat it. it completely sucked and was a shit thing for Slash to do

still though, he is my fave guitar player ever and I can overlook it.

He starts out playing it alright, but as it goes on he goes more and more off course.  It was tough to hear, so it's quite possible he couldn't really hear what he was playing either.  But it definitely didn't sound good.

x2

I used to admire Slash. But that's just pathetic, very pathetic

I understand why he did it

new album coming out, Grammy's are watched by millions


I use to be the first to call artists sell outs, but in this day and age of piracy and record labels being shitty, I tend to relax that now cause people gotta do what they gotta do these days to be seen/heard.

Izzy has a writing credit on Locomotive according to ASCAP, a song he didn't write a note of and didn't even perform on

Obviously sometimes bands do things like this to keep the peace

i'd like to have a Blu-Ray from all those small appearances.....wait, must be some 10 disc set ot so  :hihi:
doesnt change that i like to see him performing on stage, he still looks very cool!  :peace:

Its kind of a double edged sword.. without all these "appearances" maybe Slash would be some use to be guitar icon


I don't even want to pretend how tough it must be to try and stay in the spotlight and relevant. Especially for a guitar player.

so, that is why I give him a pass on a lot of stuff

If Axl came out and did a duet thing with Lil Wayne and Eminem, I would be the first to say it was awesome

Here is video of the performance:

"Sweet Child O' Mine" Slash sits in with Black Eyed Peas at Clive Davis' pre-grammy Gala

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QpfkgP7VXE

Slash and Izzy wrote the music to Locomotive when they were living together in the house in the Hollywood Hills in early '89.

The credits on the album sleeves are not the official ASCAP credits, for example on AFD the band worked out a percentage scheme for every band member, including Steven Adler, who obviously never wrote anything for GNR.  Every GNR song is officially credited for a different percentage to each member of the band (for UYI minus Steven Adler).