Here Today... Gone To Hell!

It is now January 13th in Winnipeg!!!
SHOW DAY!!!! :headbanger:

GnRMatt from mygnr found something on this guy:

Met Dj Ashba and Guns N' Roses today... and was unexpectedly put to work! Stage art due for TOMORROW'S show! Whoa! Ah, sweet pressure!!!

http://twitter.com/dirtywett (http://twitter.com/dirtywett)
http://www.dirtywett.com/ (http://www.dirtywett.com/)



His website has something labeled "This I Love" (on the right hand side). Unable to see it though.

Looks like he does some cool work, new stage art? Kick ass, im getting pumped for the 2 shows this weekend!

Before anyone starts asking, the show (probably opening bands) starts at:

UTC: 02:00am (14th)
CET: 03:00am (14th)

Japan: 11:00am (14th)
Sydney: 01:00pm (14th)

For those who haven't noticed this thread:
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=57892.0 (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=57892.0)


I'm sure you in America have this under control.   :)

For southamerican fans...

Argentina: 23:00 hs. / Chile: 23:00 hs. / Colombia: 21:00 hs. / Espa?a: 03:00 hs / Mexico: 20:00 hs. /  Peru: 21:00 hs / Uruguay: 00:00 hs. / Venezuela: 22:00 hs.

Espa?a...is that Spain?

Isn't Spain a country in Europe right below France? I thought it was there, but hey, they speak spanish so it has to be close to Mexico...right?  :confused:

Exicted about the show tonight. Can't wait to see what surprises this leg brings  :yes:

Ignatius, you are a barrel of laughs.

May you continue to put smiles on faces for a long time.

not only has Spain there but also missing a small country in South America called Brazil. :P

Current temp in Winnipeg:  16? F

ill be in bed when the action starts :(

I'll be watching Flames vs. Penguins during the concert. Hope it all goes well!!

AC

Guess i will read the updates tomorrow morning..  : ok:

It's GNR.  We'll ALL be reading the updates tomorrow morning.  :-X

Password is  thisilove


 : ok:


It's kinda personal so I won't post what he said here, but it's available..

b sure not 2 miss Danko Jones!

 :beer:

Good Luck Fans & Guns N' Roses

 :beer:

Well, I live in the US EST Zone. Anyone know when the show starts?  :hihi:

Actually Winnipeg is 1-hour behind us here in Pennsylvania & New York.

Has Axl boarded his plane yet?  :smoking:

 

Hope they stick with 3-3.5 hr. shows since I'm seeing them in like 10 days! :drool:

Probably, unless he's busy kicking paparazzis again ! :peace:

I'm anxious to know what order the Baz & Danko are playing in.

Baz > Danko > GNR.

That's what I think.

*EDIT* Simple mistake!

Source?


Last time Baz toured with GNR, he went on AFTER the other opening act.

Simple mistake, meant to say THINK.

But isn't Danko pretty big in Canada?

Damn GNR, always encouraging me to stay up all night on weeknights!

I might just do it too, my manager seems to be grooming me for a management position.  I need to make that stop.  Staying up all night might just be the trick ;)

(no sarcasm here, I really don't wanna be management!  The thought makes me nervous  :nervous: )

I'm assuming Danko will be on first since Baz has been touring with them a while nowit's been a while since i have heard Danko Jones!

Ticketmaster label them as such:

Opener: Danko Jones
Direct support: Sebastian Bach

B-foot on Facebook: Ron 'Bumblefoot' Thal Hangin' with Baz's band and Danko in Winnipeg, they're soundcheckin'... gonna be a fun night!   :peace:

Let's hope that they continue this great form on Canada too!

waiting for info and pics from the show!!!

The excitement arrives again!!!  ;D

wish i coulda got tickets for one or two of these shows....

No setlist?

Let's wait for the concert to start first...

Hope baz sings "my michelle" with axl tonight!

To all my fellow Canadian gunners and to all of those who crossed the Candadian border to see our favorite band tonight...have a rockin' BALLS TO THE WALL' show!!!! :beer: :smoking: :peace: :beer: :smoking: :peace: :beer: :smoking: :peace: :beer: :smoking: :peace: :beer: :smoking: :peace: :beer: :smoking: :peace:

Although when I saw them in England Baz went on first. I suppose it varies with the stature of the other act. I'd never heard of Danko Jones until this tour and have literally no idea how big they are in Canada.

9 chances out of 10 it will probably be Danko Jones on first, then Baz then Guns.

u r Canadian right? isn't Danko Jones much bigger in Canada than Baz these days? not that I care about the order, nor will I be able to go to the shows but Danko's one of my favorite bands and kinda popular in Sweden so I find it interresting.

Danko Jones hasn't been really popular here is awhile, they are still played on the radio and stuff but not like they use to. Still though, even in 2006 when Papa Roach was opening, they went on before Baz (if I remember correctly.)

Baz is a legend, so i am pretty sure he will be the second act. and he`s relationship with GnR.. yeah.

I really hoping to not have Bach sing My Michelle every night. I would however LOVE to hear Back do Sorry with GN'R!

Seeing Bach as an opener is enough for me.

Oh yeah! That would be awesome. And i think there is a chance for that. since he sings on sorry on the record.. I guess we will find out soon! :D

i checked Danko Jones. they're pretty cool!  : ok:

"Back in the Saddle" would be cool! : ok:

I'm canadian and i never hear Danko Jones ... i'm sure it's Danko on first

warming n' waiting for the show ....

http://www.gunsnrosesportugal.com/R%E1dio.php (http://www.gunsnrosesportugal.com/R%E1dio.php)

 :peace:

we will hear music tonight...

welcome to canaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaada motherfuckers.

at what time are they playing?

First band  in 15 min after that ..i don't know ;)

The opening act is going on at 7pm Winnipeg time?  That's unusual, isn't it?  ???

yes, 19h winnipeg time only in Qu?bec city it's 20h

Jarmo, I expect a set list and a review of Danko's show when i wake up tomorrow  ;D write it during baz's set

i hope to get the set list on danko and baz too.. It will be cool  :yes:

From Sebastian:

hello from winnipeg canada! brrr! gonna get it hot tonite @the MTS Centre tho! cant wait to get 1st show of tour on like donkey kong!

about 2 hours ago from web

Like Donkey King? lol Shut up Baz

It's KONG...at least get it right.  :hihi:

On Wednesday 13th January 2010, @axlrose said:

Yo Vancouver!! D'oh!! Bkstage in Winnipeg, Danko's on, 26F HEATWAVE!! Excited 2 get this rolling. In r off time we'll b helping Mounties flush out Al Qaeda. (What's that aboot, Eh? jk) Good 2 see Baz! LET'S DO THIS!!!

Axl's doing the live updates tonight  : ok:

"What's that aboot, Eh?"


LMAO

fun!

is danko jones still on?

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pics by Frozen Inferno!

Nice photos.  Let us know how full it is, ticketmaster still had floor tickets today.

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Who the hell is backstage and is that cowboy looking guy Axl?

It's from Axl's twitter..

That's Axl, Dj and Tommy

NICE!!!! : ok:

good to see axl hanging out with the guys in backstage:D :peace:

very cool!

Awesome pic, thanks!

Axl Rose

On Wednesday 13th January 2010, @axlrose said:




On a side note, pretty low n' selfish usin' the devastation in Haiti 2 start (false) reunion rumors. R hearts n' prayers go out to the Haitian people.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/3jdu9

Sweet!

Anyone else excited that Axl's there so early?  :hihi:

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Damn, our "live updates" are evolving.


Hope the live stream idea pans out later in the tour!  :beer:

That's awomse looks like they are havin a good a time as you could in Winnipeg, Stage looks killer! We're gunna rock it like Donkey King tonight baby/

does anyone know is the stadium mostly full?  how many people does it hold?

It is not a stadium, but an arena.  And it holds for concert purposes 16 333

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BIGGER!!!!
(http://img162.yfrog.com/img162/962/ldil.jpg)

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I fkn love the way sebastian dresses... 8)   :-* rock n roll baby :smoking:

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Bach is done.

anybody know if Axl and Baz sing stuck indise and back in the saddle together ?

i doubt Axl would come out during Bachs set. Sort of would ruin the excitement of people seeing Axl when Guns comes on stage. I would see him playing with bach as a special guest during a S.Bach tour.

no offense intended there bud but, who cares?

Obviously it's going to be Baz that gets to be a guest on Axls stage and not vice versa.

And I sure as hell hope it's not so he can sing My Michelle either. Baz sucks when he sings that song. :confused:

any word on bachs setlist yet or will that be posted afteR?

i like bach and maybe he will sign together in the guns set.... I wish to hear stuck inside together in live

From RickRoses at mygnr:

Back In The Saddle
Big Guns
Here I Am
Quicksand Jesus
Stuck Inside
Piece Of Me
18 And Life
American Metalhead
Stabbin Daggers
Monkey Business
I Remember You
Youth Gone Wild

Big thanks to tkarmy for sending the updates live!

thanks for that update
sounds like a pretty good set from baz
are you going to be doing gnr updates as well?

I didn't do the updates.. those are from mygnrforum.

I believe jarmo will update us on the GN'R set  : ok:

in this forum right?

yup

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=58717.0 (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=58717.0)

Thanks for the update! : ok:
Bach played a lot of songs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS0Jz0KdAys

from frozen

wooooooo!

Frozen fucking rules!!!

Nice, we may get some instant (or close to it) videos tonight.

Im excited!

Me three!!!   :drool:

This is the calm before the storm isnt it??  :hihi:

Heh vids would be cool.. I'm abstaining from watching until after the Ottawa show.. I wanna go without seeing anything before to see if I'm much more amazed.. saw GnR old and new before but this time I'm avoiding any visual or auditory stimulus from this tour until i see them

how can you not watch? lol

Btw...10:36 in Winnipeg....should be going on any time now

Think it's about 10:30 there hopefully they are on or on soon! Especially if we want nearly long of shows :p

I don't know how much longer I can wait, I might just wake up early tomorrow and read the updates then head off to work.

its GNR live after midnight !

I'm here waiting and not going to bed till it's over!!!   :-*

MEMORIES!!!!!!!

Lol....good call Jaz

it's qu?bec city after midnight lol

Trust me, I'm tempted.  And if it was tomorrow night there'd be no question, but I've got a big travel/long day for work tomorrow.  Scheduling just doesn't coincide for staying up till 2am.

HERE WE GO!!!

start intro

Where are you travelling to faldor?  :smoking:

Edit:-Looks like it's beginning!!!   :yes:

i hope a great show

Seems like CD is definitely the official opener now.....

I remember a few years back there was a big debate about this. Thankfully, Axl is showing the strength of the new album by leading with this as opposed to WTTJ.

.......and his (Axl's) confidence in the new album!

Exactly....I'm still banking on this album to perform like AFD after their first big tour as a band back in the 80's after the album was released. Sales should start picking up. I wouldn't mind seeing some numbers after this tour is solidly under way

I don't think anyone would mind.

GnR's Greatest hits jumped 53 spots on the billboard 200 this week to 126....nothing on CD though.....we'll have to keep our eyes wide

I'm off tomorrow so I'm having a drink getting a huge fucking kick out of this thread

IM rocking out loving it!

I started with the albums earlier

CD first.. then AFD, LIES and now UYI 1

Cool night

is jarmo updating us from the side of the stage?

He usually tells us after the show where he was in the venue.

If he is on the side of the stage, Axl better have security watch the clothes he discards when he changes outfits during the show.  I don't think Jarmo got his luggage back yet.  :hihi:

good point lol

any videos from the guy with the cell?

Haha!! Nice....I'll see if any of his gear comes my way...who wants free Hello Kitty shirts?!?!

jarmo will be easy to spot wearing his hotel bathrobe and slippers.

Wouldn't it be funny if Axl comes out wearing Jarmo's FREE Air Canada t-shirt.  :hihi:

Let's hope he has that much...might only be a hand towel *shudder*

Alright kids..have fun watchin updates....I've got a date with my wife in about.....now

Later

The World kinda sucks today, but at least briefly I have an escape. Excited to hear how it goes tonight. Wonder if they will throw in any new songs or cover tunes?  Think I'll have a drink too. Cheers :beer: Love you guns :love: Have a good one!

Don't throw shit at me or I'll leave - Tommy


oy fuckin vey  :no:

Tommy is threatning to leave? Didn't know the Winnipeg crowd was so hostile.

They were cool in 2006. (meaning the crowd)  However that is common for a band to warn the crowd for throwing shit.  Almost every band will get pissed off when stuff gets thrown on stage espcially with pyro involved

Not sure why security doesn't escort the few bad seeds out. Makes no sense to ruin a good mood because of a few idiots.

na too busy taking joints and cigs and cameras away hmm

That's not cool at all.  :no:

Security???  ???

Do your fucking job and escort these assholes out.  :rant:   :rant:   :rant:

or it could a just been a joke going into sorry.lol

Hey, didn't they play that one at Download Festival '06?

 :hihi:

sure did.... about a 30 second song right?  :hihi:

Fucking Canadians.

Wait confused. You are not talking crap about If The World right? Because where I am from, people die for saying shit far less outrageous.

Hey man!!! I'm a Fucking Canadian!!!

Don't be getting all fucking rude  because of a few fucking assholes!!!  :rant:

Holy fuck. How the fuck do you even know if the ones that were throwing shit were Canadian anyway?

Did you see it happening with your own eyes?    ???

I think kitty meant that thing that happens outside your front door whther you like it or not type thing and not the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okg6CSFRj_U

from phrozen : ok:

They're pretty much nailing this!!  :beer:

Way cool, thank you!

no prob, there is a board member over at chinesedemocracy.com forum who is friends with phrozen  at the gig!
 he is doing a good job of relaying info, but i can understand that he is rocking out right about now :)  :beer:

4 new songs in a row - AWESOME!

From RickRoses (relaying for tkarmy) at mygnr:

"AXL JUST FUCKING NAILED THE BLUES!!" BETTER THAN TKARMY HAS EVER HEARD


"Seriously, Axl sounds like 1986!"

Nice    i have to admit i was expecting baz on Sorry tonight !!!   :hihi:

anyone mention the merchandise selection? is there a poster?

It was mentioned earlier. $40.00 for a t-shirt.  :yes:

To a certain member that goes by the initials M.B. I seriously think you need to calm down :rant: I have been a fan of #GNR since AFD. Love the semi-death threat you gave me. To clarify, I said the world sucks today, as in have you seen the news, the state of the world, but #GNR gives me a release. I love them :love: especially Axl and am so happy they are back touring. That is why I came here tonight, to read the posts as they come in.  Thanks for making a new member feel welcome. Anyway, Peace!

thats about what i payed for one in 06

there is a pic of a tour shirt somewhere!!  looks pretty cool !!! :D

Talking about Tshirts I'm getting a fucking XL this time (maybe XXL for real comfort).. the large fits I got last time but I like loose comfort.. age sucks sometimes.. got a bit extra girth from the 90's when I bought a GnR shirt at a show in 06

Thanks 4 sticking up for me. That is exactly what I meant.  :peace: Hope we get some good footage. I can't help it I get excited.

No problem.. been on the internet for many years (was a member here before the "reboot"way back when) so reading internetese as a language is something I've become accustomed to. I really wanna see live footage but I'm having a hard time.. as I said before I want to have a few surprises seeing them live before I never had before.. just have until the 31st to go before I can start really seeing how this tour unfolded via video and audio.

Axl dedicated KOHD to the Haitians.

They have cut down the set list a lot...

your fucking crazy!

Thats cool he  dedicated it to the Haitians.

Axl is a good dude !!

You're just plain wrong. TWAT, Catcher, RQ, Maddy, TIL, Pros...where the fuck are they? the show is almost over...

So you are going to the show in Ottowa on the 31st? Lucky you! If Guns ever decides to play on the east coast, I am there :yes: You are gonna have a blast. I envy you.  :peace:

The last show here in 2006 was mind blowing and not just because of Guns so they have a lot to live up to... even if the whole night won't live up to what happened last time, GNR will still put on a show to remember.

the crowd out there must fucking suck big-ass donkey balls!!!  :yes:

Axl doesn't like un-responsive audiences.    :no:

They aren't getting a 3+hour set.   :crying:

20 songs so far - and 10 are from CD! Half of the set was from the new album!

Awesome!

dont jump the gun homes, 3 of those songs were just played...

Happy yet? RQ, Maddy, TIL played. Can't expect 3 hour shows every night. Who knows, crowd energy could suck.

Ya man Axl doesn't want to perform in front of some zombie robots  :D

But still a good set!!  2 and half hours is still great !!  
he just left of catcher and prostitute , twat ( all hard ones to sing ) and im sure he doesnt want to do them every night out !   

but they just played rocket queen  :yes:

still a great show i think  :peace:

However, this show beats anything from 06/07 - length wise.

Huge encore tonight as well!!!  :beer:

ya i love it !!!!   

cant wait to hear some tunes from the show !!!

I stand corrected.  :D

I sincerely do hope that Axl's going to keep up this current trend of super-long setlists!!!  :drool:   :beer:    :smoking:

I've got a funny feeling, that Axl's a man on a mission and out to prove something.   :nervous:

Please do this and then some, in Toronto, Mr. Rose!!!    :yes:    : ok:    :beer:    :smoking:

Paradise city    :peace:

Thanks again Jarmo  :hihi:

And there's Paradise City! Good - Fucking - Night!

Thanks as always for the updates, Jarmo!  : ok:

This is great...This tour will be the best tour on the year.gnr couldn't play 3h40 on everyshow,but this set is pretty long too. for example acdc, bon jovi had a 2 hours sets...and again Great Setlist. one question,was arena full,and how many people were there?

Only the unsatisfiable could complain about that setlist   ::)

A 6 song encore   :o

yeah, really. as far as I'm concerned, they got their fucking moneys worth out of that show!!!    :yes:      :beer:

We have to thanks Jarmo again for the updates...

 8)

They were pushing the 3 hr mark tonight.

How many other bands are doing the same these days? That's a damn short list.

ya no kidding
according to RickRoses over at mygnr   Tommy had to get on the crowed a little bit for being fucking lame before Patience  !!
Incredible  :-\

Thanks for the updates Jarmo ... Great job as always.  : ok:

Ok 99% of any major show you go to is about a 2hr show if one is lucky then 2 hrs 20 min is considered special.  GnR Played for close to 3hrs.  Also I would like to point out the only people who seem to be bitching are those not at the show.  

I have to say I am surprised but very happy to see so many songs from the new album played.  I can't wait for the the Stoon and Regina show next week.

Absolutely!!!  :yes:

Thanks jarmo, you lucky fucking Swedish dude!!!   :beer:

Now, commence with the uploading of the pics you took please!!!   ;D

always respect, and thanks for the updates..jarmo.   :beer: : ok: :D

Thank you Jarmo! : ok:

I enjoyed it!

"My generation" !!! :drool:

thanks again for the updates Jarmo and after the show you have earned to drink a beer or two...
 :beer:

An enormous thank you to Axl for coming to Winnipeg to play for us tonite...I know I appreciate you being here...take care & God bless

Oh, and then some...I paid $10 more for floor seats to this show than I paid to sit at the very back row of the arena for Metallica...and the show was far better as well!  I complained in another thread about a couple songs that didn't get played, but after re-thinking it, I was stupid to do so.  It just happens that three of the four songs that didn't get played were 3 of my 4 top songs from the album, but still; fantastic show overall.

Somebody saved my life tonight by Sir Elton John

chinese democracy (quality not too great)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1k9unoV18g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1k9unoV18g)

Thanks to the band for a cool cold Canadian start and thanks to Jarmo for doing updates :) ..

thanks for the updates Jarmo :beer:

Thanks jarmo. Wonder if ITW also had that Diana Ross outro by Axl...

Yeah, I loved that little touch from Tokyo.

LOL at the people complaining about the "short" setlist.  I guess they expected GNR to top themselves in terms of length every show from here on out and by the end of the tour they'd be playing a 6 hour setlist.  Close to 3 hours is NOT a short set.  Please, think before you speak.

Guns N' Roses show a massive rock 'n' roll spectacle

By: Rob Williams

14/01/2010

WINNIPEG ? Axl Rose and Guns N' Roses toured in support of Chinese Democracy four times before the album was finally released in November, 2008, 17 years after the last album of GNR originals.

Then nothing. No tour to support the album and only one promotional media interview from the reclusive frontman.

At least a bunch of people in America got a free Dr. Pepper.

A year later Rose announced he was ready to hit the road in support of the long-awaited album with four shows in Asia and 13 in Canada, the first in Winnipeg at the MTS Centre on Wednesday where they last played in December, 2006.

Why they chose to tour Canada in January, and start in Winnipeg, is anybody's guess, but the 2010 live version of Guns N' Roses is a sight to behold. The show is a massive rock 'n' roll spectacle as 7,500 fans witnessed Wednesday during a two-hour and 50-minute show featuring most of the new album and the band's greatest hits.

The unofficial over/under betting line on the band's start time was 10:30 p.m., and anyone who knows anything about GNR would have had their money on over. The group took the stage at the perfectly decent time of 10:45 p.m., 75 minutes earlier than in 2006, but still more than an hour after opener Sebastian Bach left the stage.

A series of fireworks encircling the stage exploded to start the show before the opening chords of Chinese Democracy kicked in and Rose ran on stage zigzagging his way through his seven-piece band. He was in constant motion throughout the whole song, looking a little like Kid Rock in jeans, a white shirt and fedora, albeit with more facial hair.

More explosions signaled the end of the opener before the familiar riff to Welcome to the Jungle rang out and a huge roar erupted from the crowd as Rose screeched: "Do you know where you are? You're in the jungle, baby. You're gonna diiiiiieeee."

He dumped the hat to reveal a red bandana (and no cornrows!) during the song and showed off his two favourite dance moves -- that weird serpentine slither and a series of herky-jerky bounce steps -- which would be repeated numerous times throughout the night whenever the 47-year-old wasn't running around on the massive stage shaped like the top half of a chalk outline of a body with fluorescent orange tape providing the piping. The circular "head" jutted out from the main body and two "arms" extended out on either side, curving slightly when they hit the seats. The drums were on a riser on the stage's torso flanked by two sets of stairs which ran up behind it while a set of circular lighting rigs with its own LED system moved vertically above it.

Rose's distinctive nasally whine is still in fine form, as he displayed on the swaggering It's So Easy and the drug ode, Mr. Brownstone, two classics from the band's 1987 debut, Appetite for Destruction, that help open the show. He looked and sounded as good as ever, but still relies on TelePrompTers to help out in case he forgets some lyrics.

And he even appeared to be enjoying himself, flashing the occasional smile and offering up some between song banter with the crowd.
"It's nice to be with you tonight. It's nice of you to turn up the heat for us while we're here," he said, referencing the warm weather, before launching into the new Shackler's Revenge, which gave his three guitarists --- Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, Richard Fortus and DJ Ashba--- a chance to show off some riffs Slash didn't write and allowed Rose to head backstage, something he did often throughout the night.

Massive flames shot in the air and concussion bombs exploded for the band's wall-of-guitars cover of Live and Let Die before they slowed things down with Sorry, If the World and Street of Dreams, three new songs that show off Rose's two best-known sides: ticked off and tender.

They got back into the hard rock boogie with Better, before pulling out some more old faves, with the caustic You Could Be Mine, Sweet Child O' Mine and November Rain, featuring Rose playing a grand piano at centre stage. Each song was given extra heft by the sheer amount of musicians on stage, each of whom got his own solo.

The metal-blues drinking anthem Night Train finished the main 130-minute set before the band returned for a six-song encore, highlighted by Rocket Queen, the ballad Patience and customary show closer Paradise City, climaxing with confetti being shot into the audience and more explosions.

"Have a good night, be safe. We love you and we'll see you again," Rose said after he and his band mates took a bow.
Knowing Rose, anything is possible.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Guns-N-Roses-show-a-massive-rock-n-roll-spectacle-81474192.html

Winnipeg Review:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Guns-N-Roses-show-a-massive-rock-n-roll-spectacle-81474192.html

:beer:

Nice review.  What was the crowd capacity for the arena for concerts again?

Great (very positive) review from Canoe JAM Music:

http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/G/Guns_N_Roses/ConcertReviews/2010/01/14/12460451-qmi.html

hahahah! anyone knows anything about GNR wouldn't bet on that.


sounds like an air raid :hihi:

i think  12500

Here is another review.  This one is from the Winnipeg Free Press.  It is also positive.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Guns-N-Roses-show-a-massive-rock-n-roll-spectacle-81474192.html

Hockey: 15,003
End-Stage Concerts: 16,170
Centre-Stage Concerts: 16,345
Rodeo/Motorcross: 13,198

A song by song review:

Guns N? Roses kicks off tour in Winnipeg

http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/music/2010/01/14/12461206-qmi.html

same as


detailed!

See that now, and yes detailed and all positive.

I see the Winnipeg Free Press review has been posted 3 times now...so not surprised.  :D

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2010/01/14/guns-n-roses-bring-chinese-democracy-to-north-america-with-marathon-winnipeg-gig/

I think it's interesting that all the reviews so far are commenting on the fact that Axl is not taking the spotlight for himself, and is instead diverting attention to the band.  Not many big time artists do that, and it shows that he's not in it only for himself. 

Keep it up Axl, your only getting better as you go along  :yes:  ;D

I can't decide if it's a shame or compliment that this guy was trying soooo hard to find fault with every aspect of the show but just couldn't find anything wrong.

Example:
Knockin' on Heaven's Door

"This is dedicated to the people who hate us," is what I think Axl says before Dylan's classic. Though I'm not sure what antagonists he's referring to, or who exactly they hate.


Didn't Jarmo say that Axl dedicated this song "to the people of Haiti"?  

With pics!

http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/31783299/guns_n_roses_bring_chinese_democ

anyone got any pics of any merch?

I think I see Jarmo!!

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which one?

good reviews :beer:


so true! altho i think the reviewers are a bit behind in noticing that.


@ funkey hey at least yours was from different site. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1k9unoV18g

Did November have the full intro?

Anybody can confirm or deny it?

Thanks for the updates!

GUNS N' ROSES Kicks Off Canadian Tour; Review, Photos Available - Jan. 14, 2010

GUNS N' ROSES kicked off its Canadian tour last night (Wednesday, January 13) at the MTS Centre in Winnipeg, Manitoba ? the band's first North American date (and fifth show overall) since the release of "Chinese Democracy" in 2008.

The group's setlist was as follows:

01. Chinese Democracy
02. Welcome to the Jungle
03. It's So Easy
04. Mr. Brownstone
05. Shackler's Revenge
06. Richard Fortus Spotlight
07. Live and Let Die
08. Sorry
09. If the World
10. Dizzy Reed Solo
11. Street of Dreams
12. Better
13. You Could Be Mine
14. DJ Ashba Spotlight
15. Sweet Child O' Mine
16. I.R.S.
17. Axl Rose Piano Solo
18. November Rain
19. Scraped
20. O Canada / Pink Panther (Bumblefoot Spotlight)
21. Out Ta Get Me
22. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
23. Nightrain

Encore:

24. Madagascar
25. This I Love
26. Frank Ferrer Drum Solo
27. Rocket Queen
28. My Generation (Tommy Stinson Spotlight)
29. Patience
30. Paradise City

A review of the show and photos can be found at RollingStone.com.

GUNS N' ROSES completed a four-date tour of Asia in December.

The band has not booked any U.S. dates yet.

GUNS N' ROSES' last world tour, in 2006 and 2007, took in 60 shows in 26 countries and was the band's first full tour since 1993.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=133401

The second from left to right, with glasses: is that you, Jarmo?  :P

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I think it's the Ozzy Osbourne 's nerd son.

what a fuckin great show... best ive seen in a while if not ever. i managed to get myself 10 ft from the very front . although very uncomfortable, very worth it as well. thank you so much gnr

yes, thats great. ideally, id want to kill old stuff (out, live die, knockin) and hit up Catcher, TWAT, and Prost, but that is great...

Always nice to hear positive reviews of the shows, and good setlist too, they cant always play over 3h sets, so i bet GNR gave them a great show.

great reviews! There's really nothing bad the critics can say about this band. Axl's singing his ass off, he looks good, and they cant take a jab at his braids anymore. The band looks like a band, and they are playing killer. Plus 3 hour sets and being on time. They'll have to pull at straws to get anything negative at this point, and if they do they obviously have an agenda!

GUNS N' FUCKIN' ROSES 2010!!!! ;D

yet another review. so awesome to see that these shows are causing a stir.  :)


Guns N' Roses Kick Off 'Chinese Democracy' Tour

http://www.spin.com/articles/guns-n-roses-kick-chinese-democracy-tour

Sounds like great reviews..... man i am thinking a US tour is very very possible with how great these shows have been.

Can someone that was at the show last night give us a review on danko jones please?

I wish they'd do a amphitheatre tour in the US were places hold 7,500 to 20,000 people.

Sure.

First and foremost, I like Danko Jones. I'm not a huge fan though. I thought the stuff they played on the radio by him back in the day was pretty good. Lovercall, First Date, Forget My Name, Sound of Love, Sticky Situation....stuff from that era. Not too familiar with their newer material though. And unfortunately, thats what most of their set was made up of. They opened with Code of the Road (great song too), and the only other song than that that I recognized was Lovercall.

It wasn't a bad set by them...it probably woulda helped if I knew their newer stuff and followed their music more often than I do.

cool, thanks.  I've never heard of them and watched a couple youtubes...thought they were ok.  But was anxious to hear what people thought of their set.

Can anyone at the show from this forum comment on whether or not the security staff was in fact asking people to either change their shirts or leave if they were wearing shirts that showcased former band members and/or their bands?

There has been discussion of that on other forums.

Ali

OMG...is this what you heard?  that's insane!

That's Axl there! :rofl:

damn, hopefully i wont have to remove my " I love axl in a gay way" t-shirt  :(

Can't be true for GN'R...


Don't forget, GN'R's stage is bigger than most.

In Winnipeg they had to close sections of the seats on the side to fit the whole stage....




/jarmo

It rocked.




/jarmo

Why?

If that's true it's only because of all the assholes who like to stand in the front wearing Slash shirts trying to get attention to themselves.

If they try to stop that from happening, it's just great. Those assholes need no attention.


/jarmo

Yes, its true. And I got a bridge to sell you, too...

you have to forgive me.. I dont post here too often But , that is really stupid.. the day I m prohibited of wearing whatever the heck I want to a Rock concert, the day it wouldnt be called Rock anymore.. Are u kidding me?? whatever happened with the old, new , lineup, former members or whatever has nothing to do with someone wanting to wear the tshirt of one of the BEST guitar players in the world.. or any other if that is the case.. Just plain Stupid

Yup, they were from what I heard. My buddy wore a Slash shirt there. Security told him they should boot him for it. But for whatever reason, they let them in. Had far seats, so its not like Axl woulda been able to see it from that distance. I could see if idiots coming right up to the stage with a Slash shirt, then it would be understandable. But security made it sound like they thought it was an absolutely absurd demand.

As usual, sounds like people exaggerate...


And as far as people with Slash avatars wanting to wear whatever they want to GN'R shirts, you can. Just stay the fuck away from the real fans in the front.  :P




/jarmo

do you take pictures of this show jarmo? if so really looking forward to them. The last pictures were great.

I'm amazed that, if true, security, staff, whatever, can enforce people to remove shirts.

And, if true, I'm amazed that people would actually intentionally wear Slash shirts and make the effort to move up front, just to piss Axl off.

Funny planet we bounce around on.

Is that like a Laker fan wearing a Shaquille O' Neal jersey to a Laker game, sitting in the front row, hoottin' and hollerin' at Kobe Bryant??

Does the guy, or girl, wearin' the Slash shirt, in the front row, even care that Slash is no longer in the band? What if the fan has been following the band since the band's beginning and only has a Slash shirt.

I guess if the Slash shirt wearer-er is taunting the band with Slash chants, then yeah, fuck 'em.

Axl could act like that spoiled bitch Manny Ramirez and mouth off to his hecklers in the stands. Axl could sing "sorry" directly to the whiney Slash missin' fan.

But to make people take off their shirts, I find that to be tall tales, because it seems so Chinese non-democracy.

I'm not trying to stick up for Slash fans. I could care less really. I don't miss him at all. I'm glad he's gone, even though I still am a fan of his (not nearly as much as Axl's).

We've since gotten to experience many better axemen since Slash's exit.

A more civilized way of removing Slash shirts from the audience, would be to provide the band supporting ticket buyer with a more appropriate CD shirt, or DJ shirt......Bumble even.

How about a promotion where fans can bring their Slash shirts to the concert to turn in for a CD shirt?

.

Well that's different. Security telling the ticket buyer that "they should" boot him, is harassing his ass a bit. All's fair if somebody wants to see a GN'R show showing support for a guy who badmouths the frontman.

I pretty much agree with you, but again, who the fuck cares? These people are idiots and their actions speak for themselves. But, it's not my call or yours to tell someone what they can and can not wear to a concert/event. It's just plain stupid. It exactly like telling a person who was a big fan of Brett Favre and the Packers and then attends a Vikings  game and shouts at or boo's Brett Favre.

Jarmo, you were there.  As far as you know, was this the case?

Also, any way Fernando can comment?

Ali

So It is IMPOSSIBLE to be a fan of both?? Should Pink Floyd have banned anyone wearing a Roger Waters T-shirt??

It's silly to judge someone on what they are wearing because you "think" you know they're intentions.....base them on actions instead I would suggest......bit like racism. I guarantee there would still be some casual fans going to GNR shows in top hats ala Slash as a dress up in a pure good hearted manner because thats the era that they grew up in but still love Axl and appreciate the new guys.

The minute security attempts to dictate to it's fans what they can and cannot wear is when anyone with a backbone raises the middle finger. I sure as hell wouldn't be allowing some security arsehole to tell me what to wear.
Anyone going to a show to deliberately provoke Axl should immediately be booted and given a swift clip over the ears but this if true is pure paranoid  censorship -

Before I get flamed for these opinions NO I am NOT a Slash fan, dont own his records or merchandise, played great in GNR, Coma is awesome....but really enjoy the new band and can't wait to see the new band again. (In a pink tutu and backless wedding dress If I so choose:)

Edit - Sounds more like one over zealous security guard.......Little men on power trips.

Very well said.  I completely agree...if someone is wearing a slash shirt and taunting in front, that's a different story, but who the hell would pay $100  for a ticket if they weren't a true fan? Old or new fan...doesn't matter.

I dont see what the big deal is. Why would you even wear a slash or vr shirt if your goign to see GNR? He isn't in guns anymore and hasnt been for a long time. Also its public knowledge that Slash and Axl don't get along, so wearing a shirt with slash on it to the show is pretty much someone looking to start shit.

my buddy wore a slash shirt. we were standing bout 10 ft away from the front. nobody cared. i was joking to him that axl would kick him out, but apparently its no joke by the sounds of some of your comments

He should have been kicked out or at least made to turn it inside out.

Hmm, interesting.  Apparently they weren't consistently enforcing this "policy" if there in fact was one.

Ali

Sounds to me like the security guy was just busting his balls.

People do wear strange shit though.. I saw like Motley Crue shirts at the Kiss Concert i went to...... LOL

I know its hard to believe for all of us who post religiously about GNR, but it is possible, there are still some out there who may still have no idea Slash isn't in the band. Scary i know, but possible. Back in 2006, there were tons of people on a forum i posted at that had tickets and genuinely had no idea.

only an asshole would wear a $la$h tshirt to a Guns N 'Roses show.  

seriously if thats what you are going to do, why even waste your money going to the show?   some people have no respect and just like to be dicks.

what if someone wore the AFD logo tshirt?

No D, Anyone who buys tickets to go see GNR in 2006, 2009 or 2010 knows Slash is not in the band. Hell people knew he was no longer in the band back in 2001/2002

thats not what i'm talking about.  you know what i'm talking about.   and you know it'd be a dick thing to do.

Yep that's rational, If a band were too kick people out of shows for wearing T-Shirts that the same band SOLD 15 years ago my god they would be in form some poor press and would look hugely stupid to casual fans. May as well start fining audience members for not applauding loudly enough, or do you only want to keep GNR to absolute die hards only?? and exclude the casual fan or curious concert goer?? Also if a Slash "fan" is curious about attending....so what...let them, they would enjoy the show and have a right to do so.

As I said earlier, should Pink Floyd have banned anyone wearing a Roger Waters T-Shirt??

The shows I seen in 2006 had a mixture of people wearing new style GNR, old style and even the odd Slash t-shirt,  big fucking deal.
Noone cared, everyone was more interested in  having a good fucking time to even bat an eye lid over petty, paranoid shite like that. Even the folk at the front.

It has nothing to do with that at all. It has to do with a certain group of people who like to start shit. Just like the guy at RIR3 who was waving a slash t shirt in Axls face. Remember what happened to him?

its people trying to draw attention from Axl and trying to be dicks.  go look at the trolls on that other forum, those are exactly the kind of losers i'm talking about.

Well Said and Check Mate I believe.
End of subject methinks.

Just saying, u wear the AFD logo shirt, u are wearing every ex member minus axl. I do agree that it is pretty lame to wear a Slash shirt knowing the history etc, but unless u are showing it off in a demonstrative way, i don't think someone should be kicked out of a concert for it.  it is possible to be a fan of both u know.

Yep 1 out of probably thousands who have gone to New GNR shows in similar T-Shirts acts like a knob and everyone else should have there clothing removed and booted : ok:
I do see your point but you can't just generalise like that....we have anti-discrimination laws based on that principle.

Believe it or not, people still thought Slash was in GNR when I went to the shows in Vegas and E.Rutherford in 2006.

Scary but true!

Live and Let Die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i31PZY_9Ws4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i31PZY_9Ws4)

Yeah but u get a few drunk idiots at every show. If u are going to a show, to just try and troll or antagonize the band, yeah thats the lamest, most pathetic shit ever.

I am serious though back in 06.. people were going to a festival in London and I told them about the new members and they honest to God were clueless.


I saw Skid Row open for Kiss back in 2000 and I had no idea the guy up there wasn't Sebastian.. :-[ :-[

I can't believe this story to be true.

Sounds like some tiny, insignificant story got turned into something way bigger.

That's not the GN'R I know and believe in.

I was wearing a Packers beanie at a Metallica show last year.  The security guard at the door was a Pats fan and gave me a hard time.  Now, should I go around saying Metallica wouldn't let me in because they are 49ers/Raiders/Bills fans?

Yellow journalism at its finest.


P.S.  To the dude that made the Brett Favre analogy...bad idea.  \Germo hates Brett Favre.

About this whole T-Shirt discussion, it's really something impossible to do. You can't read someone's intention from the shirt they're wearing. Here in Brazil, I bet there are going to be many people at the concerts with Slash shirts, old guns shirts, VR shirts, and it doesn't mean a thing to them. Such people, the general audience, have no idea that Slash's name or image can be used offensively in the new GnR world. Maybe they had the shirt in their closets since the 90's, dusted it off and wore it, maybe they bought it because that's something they relate to when thinking of GnR. Maybe that's the only one they found before the concert (there's no official GnR merch store in Brazil and most people can't buy stuff online)... I do know a lot of people who have no idea that Axl and Slash have a beef with each other until today. They think that the old band broke up in peace and that's all. So this taking off shirt thing is ridiculous, unless you're dealing with a crowd that you previously interrogated one by one to know for sure that they are aware of the Axl vs. Slash thing...

They can and should pick on the ones who are starting shit, but that is regardless of shirt they're wearing.

The whole thing seems to me like some securities were on a power trip, which is rather common everywhere. Is it true that they told that orders came from backstage to disallow digital cameras? I thought GnR had no such rule.

I'm gonna go ahead and call out right bullshit at your story

Bullshit spewing n00b.  It's always a "friend" too.  Never them.

Friends don't let friends wear Slash shirts.

As usual, some like to switch the focus.

We had an amazing night in Winnipeg last night.

Great start of this tour. The fans at the show loved it and what is the main discussion here? T-shirts. But not even the shirts sold at the show.

 ::)


Wear whatever the fuck you want to the GN'R shows. I don't care.

I might think you're a moron if you wear something just to get a reaction or draw attention to yourself though. And if that's your aim, then I won't feel sorry for you if you are indeed told to leave. At least you didn't have to change your shirt. You got your freedom.

So with that we end the discussion on what to wear for GN'R show.  : ok:


/jarmo

Bingo anyone who wears a Slash shirt to the live shows is being a cunt.  If you like the band then why try and piss off Axl.  Just needing attention or being a punk.

sounds like it was a great show.  roll on calgary!

whered u party at after the concert jarmo?

I'm with Jarmo on this one: First show in Canada on the tour, every review - SPIN, Rolling Stone, Winnipeg Free Press, and The Sun - has been excellent, and people are on about a rumour about t-shirts?

Really? Christ I seriously doubt, unless you're being an ass about it, that anyone cares.

I didn't.... Haven't had a beer since Monday!  :o



/jarmo

Canada is dry, didn't you know that?



....



HAHA okay, I thought it was funny for a second. Canada, dry? Yeahhh right.

winnipeg is dry, Molson Dry!

To the individual who asked about capacity at the MTS Centre: it's tough to tell how many more tickets for the floor were available, but I would guess the arena was around 70% capacity (or maybe lower.)  The upper decks were essentially barren, and there were gaps of seats throughout the arena.

I'd like to add that there was almost zero promotion for this show.  People on the floor were telling me they didn't even know GN'R were coming until like this past weekend or a month ago or something.  The last GN'R show in Winnipeg sold out rather quickly, I believe.  It turns out you have to actually tell people the band is coming if you want to sell tickets.

Rather odd isn't? However, it's a Wednesday. I bet Guns sold a lot more and a bunch didn't show up.

It will be a better turnout this Saturday and Sunday.  : ok:

I wouldn't say it's that odd...when I say almost no promotion, I really mean that.  If I didn't get an email from the arena, I would have had no idea GN'R were coming unless I posted here.  I know people who listen to the radio, read the paper, and attend concerts that didn't know GN'R were coming until I told them.  Plus, as you said, you would expect less ticket sales on a Wednesday.
Oh well, more floor space for me which means I can get closer to the stage and shorter beer lines  :beer:

Jungle  :yes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtbkO1z5G7I

Is there news about bootlegs already? :)

This reminded me; does anyone have a picture of the merch at the show? I'm curious if it's all the same stuff from Asia?

Does anyone know what happened to Axl's left hand?  Is it injured?  Or does he have it wrapped up for a reason?

To get my 2 cents in on something that happened at the show. Throwing stuff at the band has to be the lamest thing anybody can possibly do. I wouldnt have blamed Tommy for walking off stage. He sucked it up and continued playing which is admirable. I play in a band and I consider myself lucky enough to be able to make a decent living doing this. That being said Ive had anything you can imagine thrown at myself and my bandmates ( cups of beer, soda, bottles of booze, bags of piss, batteries, and my favorite marbles). I mean really I can almost excuse the ones who get drunk and do it. But then there are the few who go to shows intent on doing this. They must get off on this. the ones who bring batteries or marbles. We are there to play a show. Unfortunately we are exposed and open to such things. Really do people find themselves that important that they feel they are entitled to ruin a show for everyone there who paid to see it?

I have been watching a few videos. Like what the dude posted in Appetite for Collection, and stuff. Why the fuck do people look bored?


... Jesus Christ Axl, please come back home to L Fucking A STAT!

Some of it has to do with the fact that they don't know where to look.

A lot of things are going on at once. Not only is there a band on stage, you also got the video, pyro, all the moving lights etc.




/jarmo

November Rain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV-BU81u3rk

I can't figure out if was the full intro or not by watching this video

Thanks for posting.  Did anyone else notice he said " do you know where you are?"  What happened to "Do you know where the FUCK you are?"  WTF????

looks can be deceiving... me and everyone i talked to had a great time, young and old fans alike.... dont blame winnipeg!!

this t-shirt banning thing-it was confirmed over at mygnr just a short while ago.Security were asked to enforce it apparently.
The thread that was banned has been re-openned for discussion

I wonder if Fernando can add his 2 cents to this issue.  Fernando?

Ali

(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq200/lucyt907/Z5OS000Z.jpg) :rofl:

Think about it though.Any fan going to this concert wearing a Slash tee would be out to get it noticed for all the wrong reasons.Maybe the request didn't come from Axl himself-it could have come from crew/management who had maybe had dickheads wearing them to other shows just to cause trouble.

This very post may just lead to a permaban for me over there, but it sounds like the author of that thread is-how do people say it nowadays?- "butthurt" that a few things maybe didn't go their way.  Not cool a thing to do for a supposed favorite band of someone's.

edit: to be clear, by "not a cool thing to do," i'm talking about starting a thread with supposed "confirmation" from an unnamed source.

They are probably French.  Ask Laurent, he knows all about just stnding around.

I just read the same thing...I wonder if it's accurate.

We did not advise any security to ban any sort of apparel....  If they did, they did it on their own accord, or under someone else's order - from within their management. 

Can we squash it now?  Or should we discuss it for like 10days, then discuss about why we discussed it for 10 days, for another 2weeks... then, reignite the conversation on how Axl himself was at the venue doors, telling everyone that Slash linkings and/or apparel is not allowed.

Thanks for the clarification.

Thanks Fernando.

Ali

He wanted to have a thumb war - needless to say, I won.

Congratulations!

I think he let you win.  :-X



/jarmo

 :rofl: :rofl:

do you think axl and co would flip if i wore a "where is fernando?" shirt?
just wondering   :smoking:

or even a "where is jarmo?" shirt

dint see this one yet so i figured i would post it  :beer:
Brownstone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IihjsugoX8I


Street of Dreams ( shitty quality )  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvhjm_o2KnQ&feature=related

Any news about the November Rain intro?

I heard some people saying it was the full intro...

IRS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_tHRmEK8lM       looks like he  owned IRS very powerful !! 8)


Patience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC1PGpZI9  pt 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L-4P2r_x6A  pt 2

It was the full intro.

It's like this, you wear a Where's Jarmo shirt, and you will most likely get thrown out of the country.

You wear a Where's Fernando shirt, you will most likely end up with ladies and beer, all one needs to find me.

The ladies love a high-talker.  8)

In all fairness, I'm 37 and these days I just tend to "watch" a concert more, I'm not bored, but an older Guns audience (on a week night) might react this way

ok its settled I am having mine made to say where is the ladies and beer!

The clips look great--getting so excited for the Hamilton, London, and Toronto shows!  Thank you for clarifying the bogus t-shirt story Fernando--don't know how another forum can say a story is "confirmed" when the venue, GNR, and management are all stating that the story and claims are totally false!   Sounds like some over-zealous contract security folks got carried away, and are now trying to cover their own asses! 

Long live GN'R!  Band hasn't ever sounded better!

I am thinking about wearing one of my Robin Finck tshirts to a show.  Is that safe?

Funny, on another forum a bunch of trolls were trying to say there was no one in the upper deck, and the show was sparsely populated.  Just watched this killer Sorry clip, and they pan across the whole arena, and the upper decks are full, except for the corners.  :hihi:  Are there any clips with better audio recordings from Wednesday nights show?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYJLKEcL5J4&feature=channel

I wouldn't even say it was that.  I literally think that the entire thing is 100% made up; a lie in the truest sense of the word. 

Havent had a chance to look at videos yet, gonna sit down with some food and do it now XD

That and making the other's laugh, with his hair back to its beautiful natural color...
2010...

Thanks.

Sometimes you're reminded never to underestimate the possibility of somebody totally misunderstanding a simple thing.

When Axl dedicated Knockin' On Heaven's Door to the people of Haiti, this was interpreted as "the people who hate us".

There's a difference!




/jarmo

Yeah that is just retarded how someone could make that out from what was said.

I agree with this.. ive never been a big mosher or jumper or dancer or what have u. I like to just sit back and take it all in. Its so surreal seeing the bands u love play, that sometimes, its almost like Im in a trance or shock from seeing them.

been like that since day 1 everyone changes it to how bad it could be, interviews everything is changed to support a bad guy lol,  its always been this way ad it appears things havent changed, one show in and people are convinced it is how it was said, and it wasent    facepalm... :confused:

In most of the media people's head this misunderstood version makes a lot of sense, it supports their bad image of Axl, the one that sells. And if someone printed it already, they won't go thru any trouble to correct it, but rather leave it as is. Soon those misunderstandings become everyone's favorite truth. /facepalm

I was at the show, and I'm not a troll, but the upper deck was nearly dead.  The MTS Centre has floor seats, a lower bowl, a middle deck, and an upper deck.  The upper deck only had a few sections open in the middle of the arena, which I didn't catch in that clip.  I think you're looking at the middle deck and thinking it's the upper deck...it looks like the person filming it would have been middle, and I don't think he/she could have seen any upper deck seats from that vantage point if he/she wanted to.
The upper deck had either 3 or 5 sections open, and they were sparsely populated.  This makes sense, since there were still seats available in all three of the other sections.  The sections that were facing the stage (for the middle and lower sections) were maybe 60% - 70% full, but they were pretty far away from the stage so people wanted to sit closer (again, understandable).  The middle deck was 80% - 90% full as it got closer to the stage, but there were gaps of 3-4 empty seats or so.  There weren't rows with nobody sitting there or anything.  The lower bowl (aside from the furthest sections away) was pretty packed.  There may have been an odd rare empty seat, but it was fairly full.  The floor was packed, but not sold out.  I don't know how many tickets remained for the floor.  My guess for attendance (v. capacity for this show, which was an unusual number due to the large stage) is 60% - 70% overall.  That clip really captures the sections that were either sold out or nearly sold out, but doesn't catch the whole picture. 
Keep in mind there was no promotion for the show here in Winnipeg.  It's not that nobody wanted to go see Guns N' Roses (we had a midnight launch for Chinese Democracy), it's that a lot of people didn't know they were coming.  I had people texting me yesterday (after reading the review in the newspaper) saying they would have gone if they knew the show was happening.

That said, this concert was the shit.  It's as simple as that.  Danko rocked and was a good introduction, Baz was awesome (why the hell didn't he play Slave To The Grind?), and GN'R were so amazing that even newspapers and media (who love to knock Axl and/or the band) could not find anything negative to say, other than how late it ran.

I have to say promotion in 2010 compared to 2006 is so much better.  HUGE GNR fans I know had no idea they even did a tour in 2006.  However they knew about the 2010 tour right away.   

For myself I never listen to the radio but the shows got posted on both main SK websites, the media did a small amount of coverage the day the shows were anounced.  Besides that not a ton of stuff.  However I have seen banners on ctv.ca,

The information was out there and if they even just went to ticketmaster it had GNR listed as one of the top acts for weeks before the show.  Promotion was not the problem.  I saw the same amount of promotion for GnR as for any other major band that comes through. 

who really cares of what other people thought or how they responded. at the end of the day, u gotta think for yourself and how much you enjoyed urself. as long as axl comes back and appreciated the atmosphere thats great. but id like to see a new album b4 he comes back to winnipeg.

 this aint directed at anybody rather just a rambling thought.

meanwhile , in the jungle....

From what I gather, end stage at the MTS is 10K for concerts, and GN'R's larger stage reduced that by a few hundred.  So there were probably 9000 to 9500 seats available.  So 7500 is a good # for a rock band in 2010 in North America.  I think tonight's show and the Edmonton show Sunday, are going to be near capacity!  I wish there were more theaters with seating for 2500 to 6000 fans, as that would be perfect for many rock bands like GNR---they are not "new" or all the rage right now, but are still a big band, with a large following.  I personally prefer the shows at smaller venues (not clubs, but theaters), and would love to see GNR do a theater tour in the US--where they could add a second night, if they sold out the 1st night at large theater.  

Can't wait for the updates tonight--this tour has been nothing short of brilliant to date!!

Sorry if this has been linked already. I looked back and could not find it.

Better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYJh6IxhZTE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYJh6IxhZTE)


Edit: At about the 2:30 mark Axl looks better than ever kickin' it with more style than ever before. On top of his game!

Bouncing than ever. and truly beautiful tune.

wow thats killer thanks for the vid

I have always thought Frank added something to this live, and he really owns it in that clip!  The way he plays the chorus with more power, than Brain did, really works well live!  Also nice to see GN'R as the headline story at www.rollingstone.com  !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2b17tI55iw a minute of TIL, including the solo, good quality, screen shot

Well I just got back to good ol' Iowa from Winnipeg for my mini winter vacation.

Full review coming soon but in short, it fucking ruled and it was very worth the 12 hour drive there and 12 hour drive back. 

Unfortunately the section I was in SUCKED.  I was only 2 sections back from the stage in the lower bowl, row 5, and the five rows before me sat on their ass the ENTIRE time.  Most people behind me were standing (as I was the entire time) but they sucked a bit of the fun out of it.

Fortunately no other section in the lower bowl was that lame.

I also saw Frank and Chris at the mall that morning but it was one of those "hey, was that who I think it was" so I didnt meet them.  They walked right passed me after I took a pic of a restaurants sign that said "Come drink here before and after the Guns N' Roses show"

More to come...

Nice, glad you had a good time.

I agree with you about people not standing at concerts being a bit lame.  I've had words with people for telling me to sit down in front of them at shows.  That's just how some people roll though I guess.  I don't see the fun in sitting down at a rock concert, but it does happen.  Just gotta roll with the punches I guess.  It doesn't necessarily mean that they're not enjoying the show, they're just doing it their way.

Sorry...it's just because we have a lot of spanish people in GNRLA.

You're talking like I was stupid or something. Fuck you dude. You have no idea about me. If you want, one of these days I can add you and teach about geography, history...whatever you want. You asshole.

And to the person who said that Brazil was missing in that, it's just because you speak portuguese and GNRLA is in spanish.

Too bad the person who taped the Better video could not find the zoom button.

now that the concert has come and gone. i just want a new album already. i know i know, its a little selfish but i know axl has many songs under his sleeve. maybe i should just go to regina or sakatoon and check them out again.....

Do both.  If you are looking for seats then the Stoon show has a much better selection then Regina.  I think floors are still available for both. 

Dude, you can't include Espana with Sudamerica and go on to offer someone geography and history lessons.

I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way.  Those are the rules.  That, and cursing out a staff member.  Even I haven't done that.  :confused:

Did you understand what I try to say? There's a lot of spanish people on GNRLA because spanish language. I never said Spain was in Southamerica, I had mistake typing "for southamerican fans" . Period. We include Espa?a in that list because there's a lot of spanish people in GNRLA, and there's a lot of spanish people because we share the language. That's it.

I can't believe you think someone could consider Espa?a as a southamerican country...

I didn't either until you showed up!  :o

Did you read me? I explained why I included Spain in that list. Is not because we think is in South America is because there's a lot of people in that forum because we share language!

Never include Espa?a in Southamerica. I had a mistake typing "for southamerican fans" and that's it

Seriously guys, who cares if Espana is in Antarctica

I love Frank's drumming on Sorry, he really cranks up the intensity with his big fill

 :-\

Slash Gear Banned from Guns N' Roses Concert

Posted Jan 24th 2010

It all went down at the GNR show in Canada last Wednesday -- concert security informed fans that they were required to turn their Slash t-shirts inside out .... and leave their top hats outside.

TMZ spoke with a member of the concert security team who confirmed the marching orders -- and told us the instructions were passed down from a producer for the band.

We're told a few fans took the high road and went home ... but most just sucked it up and did what they were told.

 http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/24/slash-guns-and-roses-axl-rose-clothing-shirts-hat/#ixzz0dVk4wxDF

they are asses.

I'm surprised too


But wait. What the fuck people here have to GNRLA? The guy makes a mistake and then act like we SHOULD know the message posted on HTGTH is directed only to GNRLA members? 

At the Calgary show there was a flag draped over the hockey boards with Gnr (old school) posing in front of an American Flag. Axl obviously had to see this seeing where it was and he didnt say much, its probably all management...Jerks.

Fernando Lebeis, the son of Beta Lebeis ? GUNS N' ROSES frontman Axl Rose's personal assistant ? has denied reports that security at GN'R's Winnipeg concert banned fans from wearing Slash gear inside the show.

According to TMZ.com, concert security informed fans at the January 13 show that they were required to turn their Slash t-shirts inside out .... and leave their top hats outside.

TMZ.com spoke with a member of the concert security team who "confirmed the marching orders ? and told [the web site] the instructions were passed down from a producer for the band."

However, Fernando Lebeis has denied that any such ban ever took place. Writing on a GN'R message board, he said, "We did not advise any security to ban any sort of apparel.... If they did, they did it on their own accord, or under someone else's order ? from within their management."

Link: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=133957

ah shit, fucking blabbermouth...  has it been 10 days yet?  :nervous:

Well, it's TMZ's story.  At least they ran Fernando's quote -- just sayin'. :)

fernando didn't deny the security having banned whatever obviously he can't know everything a venue does.
but he denied GN'R advising it.
thus, fucking blabbermouth

what is 'a producer for the band'? ???

I still say they're the only ones running GNR's side of the story.  And I just saw that UPI has picked up the original article.

This whole Slash attires story has made the news here in Brazil too, it was posted at UOL (one of our biggest news site) as if it was all true and coming from Axl himself, because of his beef with Slash. A big Slash picture adorning the news. Fuck that shit!

This whole story about the shirts at Winnipeg is rediculous. Firstly if somebody attends a GN'R show in 2010 in a Slash shirt, they've got to be a casual fan who's totaly out of the loop or it's somebody who's trying to cause problems. I personally think it was a senior security person at the venue getting carried away. We've already heard from Fernando and common sense would tell you it happened exactly like he said it.

Why would GN'R start to implement this policy after all the touring they have done (North America 2002, Europe 2006, Mexico - Australia - Asia 2007, and the Asian shows in last December)?.

It's just the media doing what they love to do again, which is highlighting this crap instead of the positives.


Lee   

yeah too much positives coming out in the press these days, they had to find something LOL

If you wear an old school GnR shirt that happens to have Slash (and Duff, Steven, etc.) but you also accept the new lineup, then i don't think it's a  big deal. But these idiots (mainly the Slash-blowers; you don't see any "where's Matt? or "where's Duff?" signs) who wear the Slash gear (if i see anyone in a tophat in Toronto I think I'll have to break out into a version of "Pants On The Floor" -- "lookin' like a fool with that tophat on your head") to boycott the new guitarists are just douchebags. This new lineup is Guns n' Fuckin' Roses. Deal with it or stay the fuck home! Personally, i think when Izzy left the band it was a much bigger loss than Slash musically, but i sure as fuck didn't heckle Gilby Clarke. I think security at the new shows should implement a new policy and warn "fans" that if they dress like Slash (i guess it's easier to wear the Slash Halloween costume to make a "statement" rather than try to look like Duff), then real fans have the right to beat their fucking ass if they start acting like assholes. This policy should also apply to the idiots who throw shit at the band.
It's so annoying how the media (and many "fans") love to automatically think Axl is at fault in every negative situation. To that, i agree with helenluna: "Fuck That Shit"
Those people just can't for some reason deal with the fact that Axl has moved on, Guns n' Roses has evoved, and the band is continuing to kick ass. Fuck 'em!

sorry to deviate from the topic but .. how much were t-shirts at this show ? I'm going to the show in moncton and am in highschool with only a  part time job .. so i was hoping to work enough in for like .. 2 t shirts or one sweater ? .. thanks a lot everyone  :)

shirts were $40, so was a toque, which is ridiculous, but they shirts were sweet. one i especially wanted to get turned out to be a chicks shirt. so i hope some pretty ladies out there get one of those.

From Pollstar

About That GNR Item

Posted on Monday January 25, 2010

Evidently the story about Guns N? Roses banning Slash gear at its shows is nothing but a lot of hot air.

During the weekend TMZ reported that fans wearing T-shirts depicting former GNR guitar slinger Slash were to turn the shirts inside out if they wanted admittance to Axl Rose & Company?s gig in Regina, Sk., last Wednesday. The same report claimed fans wearing top hats similar to Slash?s trademark topper were told to leave the hats outside.

But now it?s looking as if the item is merely the latest less than factual factoid attributed to the band. Several media outlets claim they came up empty when trying to find anyone who actually experienced a Slash ban at a GNR show last week. Or, for that matter any week.

http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2010/01/25/706730.aspx

This is just typical of the media.

After a week and a half since this story emerged, with other news outlets jumping on it and reporting it too, also with questionable people claiming it was true. It finally turns out that they cannot even find one source to back this whole charade up. I'd like to think this will teach them a lesson about jumping in on a story without any evidence, but somehow I don't think it will.  ::)

Lee

No Truth To Rumors Of SLASH Gear Ban At GUNS N' ROSES Concert - Jan. 26, 2010

According to Pollstar.com, there appears to be no truth to the rumor that fans wearing T-shirts depicting former GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Slash were to turn the shirts inside out if they wanted admittance to the band's concert in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada last Wednesday. Several media outlets claim they came up empty when trying to find anyone who actually experienced a Slash ban at a GN'R show last week.

Fernando Lebeis, the son of Beta Lebeis ? GUNS N' ROSES frontman Axl Rose's personal assistant ? has denied that any such ban ever took place. Writing on a GN'R message board, he said, "We did not advise any security to ban any sort of apparel.... If they did, they did it on their own accord, or under someone else's order ? from within their management."

Two separate audio conversations with venue security who worked the GN'R concert in Winnipeg regarding the alleged ban can be heard below.

Audio: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=134040

Thats genious  :hihi:

OMG...

Only Invention !!

Dexter's response on mygnr to the "Slash shirt ban" nonsense:

What the fuck do you know? That's right! You don't know jack fucking shit you fucking ignorant, know it all, fucking deluded, misguided, self important, self righteous, pious, small minded, clueless, loud mouthed, arrogant cunt. No one needs your opinions n' having to deal with your constant abuse of privileges or the miniscule amount of power you've had here you wield like an angry, lesbian, wannabe, high school parking lot rent-a-cop always mouthing off like you're some kind of authority which you're far from. I have to say it saddens me you continue to babble your horseshit to unsuspecting fans n' any names n' numbers you have are of people like you who try n' hurt others to promote themselves at their expense. That's the only real thing you got bitch. It's like Revolver's if not edited, cloudy recollection of events as I've never asked for anyone's shirt bein' thrown out of anywhere let alone say I did but hey he won a contest so he must be credible, whatever, no good deed goes unpunished. I don't work for you or have to do a goddamn thing you think ever. Your opinions of anything whatsoever don't count or mean jack shit to me or anyone in this camp. You're garbage, plain and simple. You're not a fan or a voice of reason... you're a sick n' diseased mind spilling it's bile over the internet. Well now you can drink up the rewards of the crap that's been spillin' out of your pie hole forever here n' enjoy the fermented, feted n' vulgar response you've been cultivating n' aching for... for so long . Find another board this one doesn't need you. Oh n' feel free to jump in all you wanna be web warriors, ho defenders n' bitch boi's, you ain't needed either. For the rest of you... Surprise gigs comin'!!


http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=159283&st=120 (http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=159283&st=120)

Most of the message was directed on the bullshitters.

For the rest of us, this quote would be most interesting!!  :o :beer:

"you" being the madison person.  :hihi:
love the newbie status of dexter @ there.

fuck yeah!  :o