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Title: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Irish gunner II on September 10, 2009, 04:55:12 PM
Now I may be on my own here but I find if I'm listening to guns when either falling asleep or while asleep the songs seem to connect with me more. Well last night I was listening to  estranged and my room was completely silent and I was half asleep and it just clicked for the first time in a long time. I could make out litttle things that I missed before and just really made me see how good the song actually is.

Well that's my two cents.


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: CheapJon on September 10, 2009, 05:00:46 PM
the last couple of songs (of CD) are soothing while trying to sleep, fell asleep once woke the fuck up cause i had it on repeat and the intro to SR fucked me up the ears


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Nytunz on September 10, 2009, 05:11:39 PM
Funny that you mention this now! Because i have the same expirience a couple of hours ago!

I came home from work, and felt the need for some rest. (Work as an archaeologist) I had been digging in the dirt all day, and came back to base, and blacked out on the bed, while listening to Chinese Democracy! I had this state (i think its called sleep paralyze, or something) half awake, half dreaming!
I had a very absurd dream, about going really fast on "ROLLER-SKIS" (dont know why, because i have never even tried that kind of sport before).
Anyway. In the background i could hear "There was a Time" and i was skiing faster and faster! It felt like the whole world was watching me! And i did it pretty well! And i could hear any fucking detail of the song! And i experienced the song a whole new way! It was amazing! LOL Crazy story from a crazy dude!

I guess all the archaeology have made my thoughts go pretty fucking wild!


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: cotis on September 10, 2009, 05:19:00 PM
Happens to me when I lay down before I go to bed or late at night and drift away with the BOSE on. Pick up so much stuff never heard before.


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: axljungle on September 10, 2009, 06:18:20 PM
Now I may be on my own here but I find if I'm listening to guns when either falling asleep or while asleep the songs seem to connect with me more. Well last night I was listening to  estranged and my room was completely silent and I was half asleep and it just clicked for the first time in a long time. I could make out litttle things that I missed before and just really made me see how good the song actually is.

Well that's my two cents.

+1

This happens to me today, with There Was A Time.

And I feel the same hearing "If The World" in the beach, with the sound of the sea  :drool:


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Trist805 on September 10, 2009, 07:33:09 PM
I did the same thing last night!   Before going to bed, I listened to Street of Dreams and Madagascar.  For the first time I really got into the part of Madagascar where they play the montage of audio clips.   Something about it just struck a nerve with me and I started analyzing all of it.   It sounds so great over Buckethead's guitar solo too.   It all just fit together so perfectly.


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: estebanf on September 10, 2009, 08:24:47 PM
That happened to me one very cloudy day in a Florianopolis beach called ''joaquina'' or something like that. I was layed down on the sand, tired, thinking about nothing while listening to Madagascar. For like 2 minutes I felt I was inside the song, forgetting completely the rest of the world, capturing every detail I had never listened before.

I lose from myself when I'm concentraded listening to the quote/instrumental part of Madagascar. Its like I'm being quietly posessed by music. An earthquake can be happening behind me and I will not feel it.

Chinese Democracy is without any doubts the best GNR album. The world needs to know it. I feel sorry for the people who cant enjoy this album like I do just because they dont know even its existance.


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Jdog0830 on September 10, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
Street of Dreams, November Rain, This I Love, Fall to Pieces, and Last Fight all help me when going through hard times

I remember one girl I broke up with that I cared about a lot after she dumped me I was just walking and it started raining it reminded me of November Rain becouse I could still tell she cared even though she did not admit it...


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: jacdaniel on September 11, 2009, 11:00:19 AM
Errrr

Had a good experience listening to CITR before.  I used to not be into the song at all and then one day i just "got it".  it felt good and i really enjoy the song now.  although i usually hit next during the outro soloing cos i don't like that part.


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Irish gunner II on September 11, 2009, 01:50:44 PM
Oh thank fuck for that. I thought I was a complete head case for "hearing the music". well alot of my friends think i'm mad for listening to GNR anyway. Chinese Democracy shut them up haha.


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Leddy on September 13, 2009, 06:17:20 PM
the last couple of songs (of CD) are soothing while trying to sleep, fell asleep once woke the fuck up cause i had it on repeat and the intro to SR fucked me up the ears

Yep, just after it came out I was falling asleep every night with the album playing, waking up at 3am with Sorry playing is a bizarre and confusing experience as I was completely freaked out as to where the music was coming from  :hihi: 


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: CoBrA2168 on September 13, 2009, 10:28:45 PM
Wow, and I thought I was the only one.

I get the most out of the song before going to bed.  And the solos and Axl's voice can just put me to sleep, especially cause I know the songs so well.

Then the last song that plays before I go to bed, I have in my head the next day. :P


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: GnR-NOW on September 20, 2009, 02:26:33 PM
People who can't enjoy this album are people you hate this line-up for the band, and really for no reason. Therefore they can't see with a clear mind that these songs are awesome work and collaboration from this band !


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: jacdaniel on September 21, 2009, 07:40:44 AM
People who can't enjoy this album are people you hate this line-up for the band, and really for no reason. Therefore they can't see with a clear mind that these songs are awesome work and collaboration from this band !

Slightly paranoid observation


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: jarmo on September 21, 2009, 07:54:12 AM
People who can't enjoy this album are people you hate this line-up for the band, and really for no reason. Therefore they can't see with a clear mind that these songs are awesome work and collaboration from this band !

Slightly paranoid observation

Not really. There's truth in it.

And many of them would use a Slash avatar if they posted on message boards.

It isn't easy to enjoy something when your mindset from the beginning is "it can't be any good because....".




/jarmo


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Jdog0830 on September 21, 2009, 08:07:35 AM
Yep they hate Axl for things in the past and won't just let it be...


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: jacdaniel on September 21, 2009, 08:26:26 AM
People who can't enjoy this album are people you hate this line-up for the band, and really for no reason. Therefore they can't see with a clear mind that these songs are awesome work and collaboration from this band !

Slightly paranoid observation

Not really. There's truth in it.

And many of them would use a Slash avatar if they posted on message boards.

It isn't easy to enjoy something when your mindset from the beginning is "it can't be any good because....".




/jarmo


But this was the most harmless thread ever.  just a couple of people talking about a certain aspect of the music.  I thought the comment above was a bit paranoid and very random.  (Unless i missed something).
i dont think my avatar or me being a fan of Slash has any impact on me being a fan of Nu Guns.
I just go by the music, like most people should.
I certainly hope nobody hates Slash just because Axl does and vice versa.  (Although its true for most)


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: jarmo on September 21, 2009, 08:32:38 AM
#1: There's no "nu Guns". It's Guns N' Roses.
#2: I didn't mention you specifically, but if the shoe fits.... The point was, many of these people who have already made up their mind before hearing a single note, are fans of (some of) the former members.


There's been many examples of people who say they don't like the album when they know what they're listening to, but once they hear a song and have no idea who it is, they suddenly like it!




/jarmo


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: jacdaniel on September 21, 2009, 08:51:34 AM
#1: There's no "nu Guns". It's Guns N' Roses.
#2: I didn't mention you specifically, but if the shoe fits.... The point was, many of these people who have already made up their mind before hearing a single note, are fans of (some of) the former members.


There's been many examples of people who say they don't like the album when they know what they're listening to, but once they hear a song and have no idea who it is, they suddenly like it!




/jarmo


I thought Axl was the one that says he calls them old guns and nu guns.

I do agree with you for the most part though :)


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Limulus on September 21, 2009, 09:00:38 AM
original Dexter/Axl quote:
"In regard to nuGuns, I get that sometimes it helps to be able to clarify. Personally I call this Guns and the Illusions or previous lineups old Guns."

topicwise there are lots of moments where song parts still hit me, but there are many other parts still being annoying to me, too.



Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: estebanf on September 21, 2009, 09:51:21 AM
original Dexter/Axl quote:
"In regard to nuGuns, I get that sometimes it helps to be able to clarify. Personally I call this Guns and the Illusions or previous lineups old Guns."

topicwise there are lots of moments where song parts still hit me, but there are many other parts still being annoying to me, too.



if you really need to mark a line between an era and another, I think saying new guns is not a problem. That's the way Axl used it.

but that's not the case in 99% of the cases, much more when it comes from some ethernal whiners and resentful fans.

If Axl thinks this is NOT guns n' roses, he would put ''new guns'' instead of guns n' roses in the band latest album. but that was not what happened.

GNR NOW was specifically and clearly talking about CHINESE DEMOCRACY, so there is no need to say nuGuns, because its obviously used to suggest ''this is not the genuine guns: the real guns is Guns n' Roses, the Guns N' Roses with Slash''


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: jacdaniel on September 21, 2009, 10:23:30 AM
original Dexter/Axl quote:
"In regard to nuGuns, I get that sometimes it helps to be able to clarify. Personally I call this Guns and the Illusions or previous lineups old Guns."

topicwise there are lots of moments where song parts still hit me, but there are many other parts still being annoying to me, too.



if you really need to mark a line between an era and another, I think saying new guns is not a problem. That's the way Axl used it.

but that's not the case in 99% of the cases, much more when it comes from some ethernal whiners and resentful fans.

If Axl thinks this is NOT guns n' roses, he would put ''new guns'' instead of guns n' roses in the band latest album. but that was not what happened.

GNR NOW was specifically and clearly talking about CHINESE DEMOCRACY, so there is no need to say nuGuns, because its obviously used to suggest ''this is not the genuine guns: the real guns is Guns n' Roses, the Guns N' Roses with Slash''



I doubt any band has ever had such a divided fan base but it would appear to be the case for Guns


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: peter7411226 on September 21, 2009, 11:44:03 AM
The first GNR song I ever heard Was "It's so Easy". I was blown away by it. I was about 12 when the song came out and my initial reaction was that it was the coolest thing i'd heard. Everything being played during that era on the radio was bland and then comes this band of misfits to blow everyone out of the water. The band was all attitude. The right band and music at the right time. Rock needed a kick in the ass and GNR was the band to do that. They were the right mix of guys. When a group of guys with different influences can come together and make a sound like that its magic. Going back and listening to it this weekend I still got the same feeling I got as a 12 year old. That song is still and will always be cool.


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: estebanf on September 21, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
original Dexter/Axl quote:
"In regard to nuGuns, I get that sometimes it helps to be able to clarify. Personally I call this Guns and the Illusions or previous lineups old Guns."

topicwise there are lots of moments where song parts still hit me, but there are many other parts still being annoying to me, too.



if you really need to mark a line between an era and another, I think saying new guns is not a problem. That's the way Axl used it.

but that's not the case in 99% of the cases, much more when it comes from some ethernal whiners and resentful fans.

If Axl thinks this is NOT guns n' roses, he would put ''new guns'' instead of guns n' roses in the band latest album. but that was not what happened.

GNR NOW was specifically and clearly talking about CHINESE DEMOCRACY, so there is no need to say nuGuns, because its obviously used to suggest ''this is not the genuine guns: the real guns is Guns n' Roses, the Guns N' Roses with Slash''



I doubt any band has ever had such a divided fan base but it would appear to be the case for Guns

trust me: the fans that still cant accept that bands change and that GNR is GNR with or without Sla$h (in fact, GNR was born without him and it is still alive without him) is the inmense minority. Obviously, talking about 'real' fans (not people with sporadic fanatism).

I have NEVER, absolutely NEVER seen an AC/DC fan calling Black Ice ''an album from NuAC/DC''. Never seen anybody saying nuRollingStones or nuMetallica, even though Metallica changed McGovney for Burton, Burton for Newsted, Newsted for Trujillo, and Mustaine for Hammett.

Oh, and lets not forget that Guns N' Roses has ONLY ONE original member since december 1991, and Slash NEVER called the band ''new guns'' at that moment.

What really amazes me is how Slash himself calls this band new guns. Did he call ''newSnakepit'' to his group, when he changed every single fucking member from one year to another?

Liar and hypocrite. His ''''''''''''''''''auto''''''''''''''''''''''' biography is simply a science-fiction novel.


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Limulus on September 21, 2009, 01:43:45 PM
....and you've just proven that there also is a huge hostility factor by fans of the post-illusion line-ups not to even fans who are more cool with the classic line-up but even towards band members!! some unnecessary, dont ya think? and that comparing to those bands you've listed was weak, none of them has released an album with only one guy from older line-ups being on there compared to the previous release.

i agree with the poster above with "its so easy", still my fave song of the AFD line-up! there is no song on CD that could hit me like that and i gave that album >100 listenings. some parts there are but unfortunately not whole songs. thats why its not a very good album in my book. please dont get offended, its just my personal view.


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: Nytunz on September 21, 2009, 02:37:43 PM
i dont really think we should put so much into newguns/nuguns/guns/oldguns... its just a way to show what era of the band youre talking about.  We all know lots of things changed form 1993 til 2001.. even from 2001 til 2009. Like with most of the big bands, there will always be people more concerned about theyr own nostalgic  experience of the music, than the music itself... thats an important aspect of this! "I was 21 getting drunk to GnRs appetite, now im 40, have no life, and dont get the same kind of kick from Chinese Democracy... bla bla bla... it aint that good.. bla bla.. i think many people use the old music as a soundtrack to theyr nostalgic experience..


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: peter7411226 on September 21, 2009, 02:52:19 PM
i dont really think we should put so much into newguns/nuguns/guns/oldguns... its just a way to show what era of the band youre talking about.  We all know lots of things changed form 1993 til 2001.. even from 2001 til 2009. Like with most of the big bands, there will always be people more concerned about theyr own nostalgic  experience of the music, than the music itself... thats an important aspect of this! "I was 21 getting drunk to GnRs appetite, now im 40, have no life, and dont get the same kind of kick from Chinese Democracy... bla bla bla... it aint that good.. bla bla.. i think many people use the old music as a soundtrack to theyr nostalgic experience..
Except what your saying doesnt apply. The name of the topic is "one of those moments a song hits you a certain way". This is a topic to express what you were feeling when you heard a certain song. Not which songs are better than others?


Title: Re: One of those moments when songs hit you in a certain way
Post by: jacdaniel on September 22, 2009, 09:06:59 AM
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People who can't enjoy this album are people who hate this line-up of the band, and really for no reason. Therefore they can't see with a clear mind that these songs are awesome work and collaboration from this band !


This comment is what originally sparked this interesting debate.

The poster had a point.  Both Axl and VR have to deal with this, the constant comparisions with  AFD and the original band.  That will always be the case though.

Most GNR songs from all era's have hit me in a different way from time to time.  depends on whats going on around me