Here Today... Gone To Hell!

As a relatively new fan (I've only been familiar with GNR's music since late last year) I've now exhausted their fairly small back catalogue and have even gotten into VR in the process.

I checked out Oh My God the other day which is completely awesome! I would've loved for this to have been on the album and in my opinion, it's miles better than songs like If The World or Scraped.

Anyway... are there more outtakes from this era or is Oh My God the only one?

Outtake? The song was released on a soundtrack ten years ago. I was there when the clip leaked. Welcome to the GN'R family! :beer: I don't see how anyone can exhaust their back catalogue, though.

That's the only one that's been officially released in physical form.  They played "Silkworms" live in 2001/02.  That would be the only other "new" song that's been heard from the band.  Of course they've played some kick ass covers as well.  Check out their cover of "Sailing" if you haven't yet.  It's fantastic.

So was it never meant for inclusion on CD?

Out of curiousity, who plays on this track?

Axl, Paul Tobias, Josh Freese, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson and Robin Finck

Additional guitars by Dave Navarro & Gary Sunshine


"Musically the song was primarily written by Paul Huge over two years ago," Rose wrote. "With Dizzy Reed writing the musical hook of the chorus.

"Robin's part," he explained, "was written by Paul and extensively manipulated by our producer, Sean Beaven. Robin was not involved in the writing of the final recording though did participate in the arrangement. All lyrics were written by myself. Additional programming (jack boots, screeching tires, etc.) was by Stuart White."

- Axl, September 1999 (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=170).


/jarmo

Welcome Friend... OMG is Good Song From GNR


 :beer:

yeah its a damn great song, shame the new version axl was going on about it didnt make it on Chinese Democracy really

A B-side would be great!

or on the next album maybe,  :drool:

+1, the same for Silkworms. I don't want it on the next album. B-side is the best way to go in my opinion.

I dont know.  I think silkworms sucks as is.  I felt the same about Rhiad and was disappointed it was going to be on the album.  BUT, the version on CD is awesome, and I would love to hear OMG and SW re-worked. Although I thought OMG was decent when I first heard it

I've always loved 'Oh My God'... but it gets no respect from a lot of people.

i think oh my god would have gone really nicely before better

The weird thing is, Robin disowned the song and insists he had nothing to do with the recording.

IF OMG were on CD it would be in my top 5 on the album

I love OMG - its a GREAT track, would love to hear it if its been reworked on, or live...!  I think when I was at the 2002 Docklands London show they started playing the intro, but didnt play the song - tease! 

I love Axl's vocals on this track... very AFD-era.

A studio version of Silkworms would be interesting.

I agree Rhiad sucked when I heard it live, but was much better on the album.

Can you post a link to this?

It says it on HTGTH... (http://heretodaygonetohell.com/releases/newalbum.htm)

"Oh My God (Huge/Reed/Rose)

Appears in the End Of Days movie as well as the soundtrack.

Guitar parts by: Paul Huge, Gary Sunshine, Dave Navarro and Robin Finck (according to Axl, he plays on it. According to Robin himself, he doesn't).

Additional programming: Stuart White "

Didn't fit to CD I guess...

I love this stuff, I wish they do more of it. Very heavy and powerful.

i agree with ya on that,
 i hope that the re-tooled version makes an appearance on either a b-side or possibly even the next batch of tunes on cd2

Axl said, a long time ago tho, that the second album would be diferent than the first.

So, keep checking back for those new fans. : ok:



There is a distinct difference in sound. The second leans probably a little more to aggressive electronica with full guitars, where the first one is definitely more guitar-based.


-Axl Rose 99-


When I think of it, I have actually been waiting for the second album all the time. :P

 :hihi:

Right after CD came out, I burned a copy for the car and replaced SR w/ OMG just as a test. It flowed much better.

Yes Sr.

SOUL MONSTER In 2020

 :rofl:

That's sacreligious. Shackler's Revenge is one of the best songs on the album....

Agreed! Shackler's rocks.

The "Shack" is my favorite rocker on the album. A beast. :yes:

Argueably, couldn;t Sympathy for the Devil be lumped into produced and released single not to go on CD, thus by definatition an out-take ???

I don't think Sympathy for the Devil was really recorded for the follow-up to UYI, whereas the version of Oh My God on the End of Days soundtrack is supposedly a demo according to Axl, thus leaving people to suppose the final version would surface on a future Gn'R release.

OMG is a great song.I have been listening to it a lot lately.

I lump Sympathy together with The Spaghetti Incident.  I mean, Slash is on it, it's a cover, and it was the next thing to follow TSI.

Fair enough, I'd go with that. OMG is a demo ???, IIRC it was a single too.

Ok it might be a raw version, but with Axl's reknown quality driven attitude, I can't imagine that he released without being happy with it, or was this another GH moment where the record company released it regardless of what anybody thought.

I'd be inclined to believe that OMG will be left as is, not to appear on an album (other than a GH2) it would have worked well on CD in my view. It's not like it has any particular hold like Don't Cry and demands reworking into an improved/different version.

under rated track in my books

 Not to me. But then again I dislike CitR greatly and most people disagree with me.

tru dat!

Perfect lyrics, heavy music, headbanging pre-chorus or what to call it. : ok:


The singing is some of the best stuff he has done in his carreer imo. ;)




I like the demo-sound of it,-
- Axl, the villain of rock, shines so much more through than on the polished vocals we hear on CD.

You can hear he is close to the vocals as he sings it, then it's added an filter on it.

The result is you can hear his distinct, whining voice, whining himself up into a full-blown, passionate yet intelectual tantrum.

You can hear him as he takes a breath, when he looses his breath finishing a line, you can him snarl on the recording.


Thats a perfect blend into the lyrics and aggressive rythmics of the song.
It just gives me goozbumbs when he reaches a certain emotional climax, but still melodicly controlled belts out;

 if only you had let me know.



The "oooooh!" overdub gives the listener a great feel of the musical aspect and beat of the song,-
- as if inviting you to come along for the ride, very street.

It's just a great song, wish they do more of this stuff in the future.



It's certainly not listpop,-
- and more intriguing to listen to via a headset.

But it has a great vibe to it for the mainstream audience aswell.


Such melodic vocals, so hatefull and pissed off and yet so obviously vulnerable. Clever lyrics. :peace:

OMG was the first step of the new era of GNR, Axl's back. At that time, when I listened it on the Radio I was shocked. didn't get what Axl was doing, the song was horrible and noisy, it had nothin to do with Guns n' Roses. What is that  industrial shit? I asked myself. I really hated that song those days, now I think it's ok, I don't hear it much, but Chinese Democracy compensated that first impression.

Would love a new recording of Oh My God.

OMG is awesome. At least for those who are into the heavier stuff and miss the more aggressive GnR. And not only for Guns fans. My husband is not much into GnR but one of these days I was listening OMG and he came from his room to ask me what it was. And when I said it's GnR he was amazed, said if Guns had followed that style he would be a huge fan by now. It's a killer track, even though it's a bad quality demo, it impresses a lot of people. My husband is a death/doom metal listener but he has a very broad musical taste so ever since he liked the song I started to give more value to it (as if I could, it already was my favorite newGNR song).

Other song that I'd love GnR to remake is Crash Diet. It's such a wasted song!

Obviously we are all holding our breath for the next record. Axl said Soul Monster was mean, he said the whole next record would be darker and heavier (sorry if those are not the right words) and when he said that I pictured songs like OMG and Silkworms, with better production, with this new kick-ass line-up. Aggressive, punch-to-the-face, direct lyrics, heavy guitar and synthesizers. I'm looking forward to it.  : ok:

OMG are at least as good as most songs on CD, crazy that it's been out for 10 years, i hope it's not scrapped and that we'll get it in a new form one day :headbanger:

i agree..  i think i just wasn't ready for it back in 99.  i added it to my CD play list on itunes.. and it fits perfectly.  i like the song now and would like to see it again

I also was shocked at first. But after a few listens I started to love the song: mainly because the catchy pre-chorus n' the insane lyrics by Axl. The outro is great, a strong kick in the face. I think the main deficit of the song is the guitar solo, very poor...

I'd love to hear n' upgrade of this song, with better quality sound (more clearness) n' a completely new solo in the middle... that would kick major asses  :peace:

OMG is a song i have had in my head for years. IMO it is lyrically as good if not better than anything on CD, Im not a fan of some of the opening guitars and dont like the muddy recording but a really cool song overall.

I vaguely recall the RIO version....now musically that rocked and I wish the studio version had that level of oomph. Sometimes GNR santitise the recordings a bit much for my liking and would be nice to get a rawer version on record.

PS disco beats ....yessss

if the record company hadn't stolen this song from axl and forced it onto the soundtrack to end of days, maybe it would have ended up on chinese democracy.  who knows how things might have gone differently if that was the case.  with the proper axl-approved mixing, it probably would have been a smash single. 

Guns N' Roses really needs a boxset full of rarities once they're done.  I want to hear good versions of Crash Diet, Cornchucker, Ain't Goin' Down and more.  Crack open that vault of yours, Axl!

I'd rather wait another 2 years for a album.

Axl released a press statement promoting the song for the soundtrack didn't he???

And whilst better recording would have made it an even better song it seriously was NEVER going to be a 'smash single'

Thank god he's not too keen on making listpop, putting music first. : ok:

September 22nd, 1999

"Oh My God" [press release]
 
 
So here's the story behind this music

The chorus: OH MY GOD etc. deals with the societal repression of deep and often agonizing emotions - some of which may be willingly accepted for one reason or another - the appropriate expression of which (one that promotes a healing, release and a positive resolve) is often discouraged and many times denied. Emotionally the song contemplates several abstract perspectives drawing from personal expression as well as from the film (End Of Days) and its metaphors. The appropriate expression and vehicle for such emotions and concepts is not something taken for granted.

Musically the song was primarily written by Paul Huge over two years ago, with Dizzy Reed writing the musical hook of the chorus. Former member Duff McKagan as well as former employee Matt Sorum failed to see its potential and showed no interest in exploring, let alone recording the piece. When the demos were played for the new band, Josh, Tommy and Robin were as they say 'all over it.'

Once the opportunity was presented, the song was given priority in our recording process. As the verse, performance and lyrics were decided on, for us (that especially includes Interscope chairman Jimmy Iovine) the choice became obvious. We were more than pleased Mr. Roswell (the film's music supervisor) agreed! Our thanks to Arnold and all for the consideration - it is an association in which we have always felt honored.

Paul Huge, Gary Sunshine and Dave Navarro appear on the song as well as Robin Finck. Robin's part was written by Paul and extensively manipulated by our producer, Sean Beaven. Robin was not involved in the writing of the final recording though did participate in the arrangement. All lyrics were written by myself. Additional programming (jack boots, screeching tires, etc.) was by Stuart White.

The fight of good vs. evil, positive vs. negative, man against a seemingly undefeatable, undeterrable, unrevealed destiny, along with the personal and universal struggle to attain, maintain and responsibly manage freewill can be and often is frustrating to say the least. In America our country's constitutional right to freedom of expression gives us a better chance to fight for that expression than many in other countries enjoy. It can be a big gig, like kickin' the crap outta the devil!

Power to the people, peace out and blame Canada,

Axl -99
 
 
 

i've never understood why he says and blame canada. if i could ask axk one thing it would be this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blame_Canada





/jarmo

I dont really consider Oh My God to be an outtake.
I think we'll have a surprise someday when we see Oh My God on a new album :beer: