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http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/06/15/six-things-you-didnt-know-about-guns-n-roses-november-rain/ (http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/06/15/six-things-you-didnt-know-about-guns-n-roses-november-rain/)




/jarmo

Okay, now I feel old  :hihi:

Still holds up after all these years. I had my IPOD on shuffle over the weekend and the version from the live era came on and sounded great.

cool write up, and I'll go on record as saying those were 6 things I DID know about "November Rain"... :smoking:

It is an excellent video. Well directed.
I also think Estranged was well directed.  :smoking:

I remember seeing its premiere on MTV Europe.

Back when new videos were a big deal on MTV....  :hihi:



/jarmo

I hear ya....i kinda miss that. The anticipation of something big from your favorite band. MTV was good at promoting world premieres. Back when they played music.

I'll second that one Leddy! Seems like yesterday.
amy

i remember back in 1993 seeing it for the 1st time i was 10 lol, going this never ends! and it was on like 5 or 6 times a day!  :beer:

Good times! :beer:

There are actually only two things I didn't know about November Rain  ;D

I remember that summer when MTV continued playing the November Rain video over and over! It seemed like they played it on an hourly basis.  : ok:

I was in middle school when November Rain hit it big and I remember at school dances us guys would always try to fight to find the hottest girl to dance with during the song.  A solid 9 minute reward awaited.

I fell in love with Axl the first time I saw November Rain! I still love that video. I watched alot of MTV back then!Thanks for posting J man!I can't believe that it's been 17 years!

Videos at that time were almost as important as the song. Than MTV started to produce shows and slowly videos became less and less... then they came up with MTV2 for videos...then MTV 2 did shows too and now we have no videos on either channel!

At least we have VH1 classic.....

17 years...!

I was in California on holiday in 1993 when the heavy MTV rotation of November Rain, well lots of GnR really, was going on - being without MTV in Scotland - I was in GnR heaven every day that holiday!  I was used to ranting at Radio 1 (UK) when they only played the radio edit without the killer solo at the end - and here was MTV playing full GnR videos day after day.  ah happy days for the young me!   :hihi:

+1    :-[

Actually it's nothing new...The live performance was filmed where the anually Rockettes Christmas show is performed, Radio City Music Hall..As for the part about renting out the areana and playing live for the "extras", I think that was for the Estranged video....

No, that was indeed NR. Watch Making Fuckin' Videos: November Rain. What you're referring to, there were no extras for that. The audience shots are from a live show.

I celebrated by watching the video last evening, great memories for sure.  Our little family had just moved to new digs and we had the cable installer there and it was he who was drifting through all the channels making his final check on a proper hookup, and there it was, the kids could have been screaming for that nine minutes for sure and I probably couldn't of heard them or anything else for that matter.  That day couldn't have been any brighter.  Thanks GNR and Happy B-day November Rain : ok:.

Yeah...title is rather presumptuous of MTV.  At least they are putting some GnR out there.

I beleve they missed a award given to Slash for the best guitar solo

or somthing like that

o and how did MTV discover these things???

No, that was indeed NR. Watch Making Fuckin' Videos: November Rain. What you're referring to, there were no extras for that. The audience shots are from a live show.

I'm pretty sure GN'R rented out the LA colliseum or Rose Bowl for the Estranged video and played n front of extras..Watch the MF'ngV:Estranged.

They did record the November Rain video in front of extras, as said in the article.

For the Estranged video, it's a combination of live shots (from Germany), and the close-ups of the band members on stage were filmed in a studio. They rigged the whole stage in an empty arena for those shots.

Yes, watch it.

The Estranged video was shot during a show, and for close ups of the band, they just played at the same place with no one around.  Sounds kinda contrived, but that's how they work that Hollywood magic.

The crowd parts for the Estranged video were filmed at the Olympic Stadium in M?nchen, Germany.

The close ups were shot at Long Beach Arena in Long Beach, CA.



As far as I remember, November Rain wasn't shot at an actual GN'R live show.






/jarmo

It wasn't. From the article:

Though it appears as though the concert footage is real, the scenes of Guns N? Roses performing were entirely staged: the band rented a theater in Los Angeles and brought in 1,500 extras to play an audience. Rather than simply mime playing their instruments and lip-synching along to a pre-recorded track, Guns actually played through the song (as well as a number of other tunes in their canon) in order to keep the extras entertained.

So I guess there is no one that participated in any of this filming that are on this board? Guess they are all too old now :)

I am old ;D ;D

Was NR filmed at the famed Radio City Music Hall?

No

Axl's custom Deep Purple shirt makes a lot of sense.

He leaves his pad in that shirt and goes in the limo wearing the shirt.  He drives down to Long Beach wearing that shirt and BAM!  Music video! 

The real headscratcher in this whole deal is that in the actual music video, Axl is never seen wearing the Deep Purple shirt.  I guess they switched outfits to help with continuity issues from the Munchen show.

It'd still be nice to see those Making Fucking Videos documentaries on an official DVD sometime...

Anyway, as people have said, a rather presumptuous title, but a nice little article all the same.

I agree, I never bought the Making the F'ing Videos casettes back in the day and since VCR's are a thing of the past I think it's too late for that now.  I'd definitely purchase them if they came to DVD format though.

DVD format would be excellent, as everytime I want to view these it cost me a VCR hook-up, it's not so convenient, however I'm pretty sure they can be viewed on you tube if I'm not mistaken.

Really?  I'm gonna have to check that out sometime.

Yeah, they're all on Youtube. I'll warn you if you haven't seen them, it's a tad on the cheesy side at times.

Oh geez.  I have the set, though haven't watched them in awhile because well - the VCR thing.  I'd repurchase them on DVD in a heartbeat.   

If things like that would happen I think GN'R would be on the slipery slope Kiss is on dont get me wrong I love them but they sold out one to many times for me to buy there Kiss products.

The two most memorable Video Premiers for me are November Rain and Estranged. The Estranged actually sticks out a little more in my head because it launched with a full day of GnR Documentaries the day of my High School Football Division 3 Superbowl (We got our asses kicked). I still have that whole day scattered across two VHS tapes (terrible quality because I did LP to get as much of the day as possible). There were also huge Aerosmith and Metallica premiers that month which were advertised heavily on that tape. Now short of the internet I don't know what channel I would even find a music video on.

I hardly see how reissuing old video documentaries in the current home video format that are relevant to the band is comparable to a 'band' that has their own brand of condoms and coffins.

And before you think about it, no comments about scented candles. :P

Gn'R had their own brand of condoms too.

Not suprised I mean you would want to put something on your dick that had Guns on the box lol.

You feel old? Just think of how old Axl feels. He started writing the song over 25 years ago, according to Tracii.

I like my GNR candle. it's fun to hold in November rain.

True but I ment it could go overbord and then we would end up like the Kiss fans in a way that there basicly now just used for there money and its sad that it came to that with GS.