Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Just heard on Eddie Trunk XM/SIRIUS that BBF will be touring w/ Lita Ford this summer.I'm guessing he'll be playing seperatley and not as part of her band..
Can you imagine BBF tearing up Kiss Me Deadly or dueting on Close My Eyes Forever!!!!!HA,HA,HA!!!

GNR are touring this summer...................

mmmm I dont think so

sure they are.. just not as a group :P

well this fucking sucks  :(

 :-[ This aren't good news, i hope this isn't true... can't wait to see Gn'r hittin' the road again...

This royally sucks. Obviously, Ron was holding his schedule open to tour with gnr and now he knows it aint happening, so he books these gigs. Well, good for him, but "sorry for you."

This fucking blows big time.  Fuck this.  :(

I dont see any dates after 09/05/09  I can only hope axl will grace us with another christmas show In
Los Angeles. 12-20-06 was a fucking killer time.

He's gotta make money. He's a working musician and we all know that they make money on tour. GNR is not doing anything so I guess he took something to pay the bills. I gotta say though....as a person who plays in a band its gotta suck being in a band like GNR. It seems like they wait around and wait around for something to happen only to be let down. I dont know who's to blame but it cant be easy. Axl is probably set for life financially but the others probably arent. Thats why you see them taking side gigs with other people.

yeah, plus musicians just wanna get out an play!  fuck the politics  :beer:

And it all sounded so promising just a few months ago  :-\

I guess I better get used to that kind of stuff...

I only sees it as a rumour cos nothing from Ron about it.... yet...

welcome to the world of GNR.

don't worry, u will get use to it.

Twitter a few mins. ago: OK, I've got 2 days to learn 15 songs...... ha, I scoff at the challenge...! Bring it the f**k on!

???

now i have a perfectly good reason to hate lita ford.  doesn't she realize she's breaking up gnr at a key point in the band's history?  she and trent reznor should jump off a cliff together. 

it's like the universe is conspiring to ruin all axl's hopes and dreams.  fuck this.

You're the most crazy, delusional fan ive come across on this board!  and its funny how you blame Trent and Lita but fail to mention that maybe BBF really wanted this.

Good luck to BBF and hopefully he has some fun on tour while you listen to the GREATEST BAND EVER with the GREATEST MUSIC EVER.  : ok:

How is she breaking up GNR? By offering BB a chance to make money that he currently isnt making? Im sure he has bills to pay and has to work for a living. Im sure shes not holding a gun to his head. If you had the opportunity to make money during a time when your band wasnt doing anything wouldnt you take it?

Why is it that you post your whiny posts in every other thread in the GN'R section?

It seems like, at least lately, you don't seem to contribute anything positive at all.

If you have evidence of the opposite, I'd be more than happy to apologize for my wrong assumption.


/jarmo

well, how do you know that bumblefoot touring with another band isn't the iceberg that jarmo referred to the other day -- the reason why gnr had to change it's summer tour plans.  when finck decided to bail on gnr for nin, axl had to go find a new and better guitarist.  we can all understand how that slowed the process. 

this shit just keeps happening.  is it too much to ask that the musicians axl invites to join gnr actually play with gnr?  like as the priority?  do they just pop in long enough to get some money?  gnr is clearly the greatest gig any professional musician could hope for.  so how come they aren't playing gigs?!  maybe it has something to do with the fact that the band is so busy playing other people's music on other people's tours!

look, i don't blame bumblefoot for wanting to tour with a hot old woman with a few hundred fans.  but whatever the reason gnr can't tour, i think all the band members have to be working hard to overcome those problems.  all hands on deck!  this isn't the minor leagues -- this is gnr!

Haha, im sorry if we share some different opinions jarmo.  I just feel like a lot of people are getting very frustrated with the lack of feedback from the band.  It seems as if topics like "BBF hoping for a tour" turn into "BBF touring with Lita Ford".  And I see other fans on here that are getting equally frustrated.  Add that to some recent reports of tours fallen through and it doesnt look good for the band.  Now with this latest "news", it would seem like the band should at least give a 5 min update on we're they're at.  Thats not too much to ask is it?  Even if there is no positive news, people would still like to know.  

the other post was aimed at Falungong for being clearly delusional.

No offense but i dont think BB quit GNR to tour with Lita Ford. If he did he's got a screw loose. Im sure he took that gig because GNR has nothing going on at the moment. Like I said before Im sure hes not financially set for life like other members of the band. He needs to be out playing music to make some money. But honestly I think he'd rather be touring with GNR. From a financial standpoint he'd make a ton of more money touring with GNR.

The current musicians that Axl has have to make money somehow.

They probably see being in GNR these days as a side project and their solo stuff being there full time gig.

No reason for them not to do anything while Axl has to battle whatever demons that he's faced with.

wtf Lita Ford has to do w it?.....if GNR wont do a shit isnt bcuz her or Reznor!

As Peter said, they would if things were happening (Robin being the exception).  its obviously outside their control.

i didn't say bumblefoot quit!  no, way.  he'd never do that because gnr made him a star, and he owes axl and the gnr fan base a lot.

but what happens if he's out on the road with lita ford, and axl finally convinces the fucking idiot business people to let him tour his way, as he wants it?  does he put bumble in the position of having to bail on lita ford?  bumble's such a sweet, decent guy that there's no way he could do something like that good conscience.  is axl going to force lita ford to cancel her tour?  i doubt it.

i just want gnr members to treat gnr like the priority it is.  pretty simple.  like when cancer boy thought it was cool to do snakepit, or play with michael jackson or whoever else paid him instead of making gnr his sole focus.  when everyone's out doing other projects, how can it not distract from what's really most important?

Why do you (as in a group of people) always use the excuse of your opinion when you just whine day in and day out?

"It's my opinion and you don't respect it because we disagree!  :crying: "



The truth is, I don't give a fuck if you have a different opinion. This place isn't for a bunch of unhappy bitter fans of the past. Do you get that?

If you're here, you're here because you think GN'R is awesome and you wish them the best.

If you're here because you think GN'R was only awesome in 1987, you're on the wrong fucking site.



"GN'R isn't doing what I want them to do for me!  :crying: "

Eat a cookie and shut the fuck up!

Problem solved.  :D

  




That's ALWAYS the case! Haven't you fucking noticed?

When the band was on tour, some were just frustrated because there was no release date. "All we want is the album" was the phrase of the time.




/jarmo

Maybe we arent all as postive as you Jarmo.  :)



Wish them the best with what?  they aint doing anything? 

and what the fuck does that have to do with wishing them the best?  so because they're not on tour when you want them on tour, you should have free license to shit all over this band and the fans who come here because they love chinese democracy? 

If you have to ask, then you obviously need to figure it out.


But just for you, I'll give an example of what it means.

It's the opposite of wishing somebody to fail just for your own selfish enjoyment because you're not happy.



/jarmo

What exactly does Bumblefoot owe the GNR fanbase?

Also, how fuckin old are you? Referring to someone as "cancer boy" when their mother just died from that isn't real tactful. I'm sure there are some members here who have had first hand experience with this in their families.

I can't hear any of this because Chinese Democracy is playing in my room very loudly.

Seriously, though maybe all sides should just throw the CD on and take a step back.

 :smoking:

What are you saying that BB should stay at home and wait for something to happen? Im sure GNR is his priority but like i said before it probably is a financial decision. Unless he's under contract with GNR for millions ( which is highly unlikely in the music industry), he has to take gigs to make money. Being that he really doesnt have songwriting credits on CD his residuals from the album wont be much so in essence he would really make his money touring which GNR isnt doing so at present time. So in his best interest he has to do this. Im sure he's not the one holding up a tour because im sure he'd rather go out with GNR than with Lita. No offense to Lita but GNR would generate alot more money for himself.

Also, it's difficult to name current band members who haven't played with other artists or done things on the side while GNR is inactive so I don't think this thing with Bumble is a big deal. Maybe the guy just wants to play music because that's what he does for a living.

god, where have i heard that excuse before?

Why is that an excuse? You tell us what you would do if you were him?

I'm almost postive that BBF know that there is nothing going right now.  He most likely knows what his window is in which he can make some money or just get out and play whatever the reason is for playing with Lita


What is there for them to do?  Most likely Axl is the business handler.  I can't see any of the other guys taking that responsibilty since they have no stake in ownership of the band.  So because Axl/whomever can't get the details worked yet these guys have to sit around and do nothing.  Doesn't make much sense.

look, i don't want to sound confrontational or stir shit up, even with people who want nothing more than to start shit around here.  i'll just say it simply... if i was in gnr, gnr would be my sole priority.  if there was something keeping gnr from touring or recording, solving that problem would be the sole focus of my energies.  not finding another band to jam with.  this is what axl expected of former gunners.  i don't see why it's too much to ask of the band these days.

What about unhappy disappointed fans of the present?  Is this a place that these people can voice their opinions?

But like I said in previous points : Im sure GNR is his priority. This is probably a financial decision. Just because he's a musician in a huge band doesnt mean that he's well off. His solo albums dont sell millions. He gets no residuals from the other GNR albums except for CD ( which he probably doesnt get much from because of songwriting credits). So naturally he has to get out and tour. I like how you label people who dont agree with you as trying to stir some shit up.

But that does not seem to be these guys role in the band.  Their roles from what I can tell are to play good music when they are onstage or in the studio.  Axl is the handler.  I'm sure he doesn't expect BBF, Dizzy, Richard, Brain/Frank, Pitt, Ashba,Tommy to be working out the business problems that plague Axl and this band.  I could be wrong but it just seems that way since it seems that Axl has carried this load forever now.

Jarmo, buddy, there is absolutely nothing positive going on right now to talk about.  How anybody who considers themselves a die-hard fan could not be a tad concerned with the state of the band right now is just beyond me.  I mean, I get the eternal omptimist thing, you do have a board to run, but things are just silly with this band right now. 

At any rate, at least we get what the guy at Talking Metal meant when he said "Don't expect any GN'R tour news until at least 2010."

Do you walk into your employer's office and tell them how to run their business? I suspect not. They are payed to play music, not work in management. They play music when they are asked. For whatever reason right now they are not being asked to do so. I am sure if there were tasks Axl thought they could solve that would speed up the process of getting on the road he would do so. Obviously that is not happening. Loyalty of the band members to GNR is hardly what is keeping the band in neutral right now.

You got the album. Listen to it and enjoy the summer.  : ok:




Oh, is that concern?



If you truly are that unhappy, maybe you need to take a break and do something that makes you happy?


I wish one of these unhappy fans would explain to me what good it does to constantly whine about shit day in and day out.

How does it help?

I get that it might make that person feel better to vent. But at the same time, you have to think "does this interest anybody else?".

The constant whining through the years has not helped so far has it? When you realize that it doesn't do any good, maybe you'll try something else.






/jarmo

Falun,

You should write Axl a letter letting him know that this is how you would operate if given the chance. You never know when the next guitar player opening may become available.

Judging by the past, it seems to be what ... every 2-3 years? Spend as much time as you can  practicing the solos. I can see the gnr.com update in 2011 now: 'Falungong69 named the newest gunner'.

OOn topic

I heard of her. I saw this article the other day while googling for GNR news.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=121046

and learned it was her who sang the classic cherry bomb!

There's another pretty frustrated guy ...

I thougt that this was an GNR fan site, where everybody could share his opinion about the band they love.

I realy love GNR, they are part of my life, and that is the reason that i don't happily see them going down the toilet

Could you or somebody else explain to me why the so called opinions only focus on the negative aspects?

So many of these people don't bother posting anything positive.

So I'm wondering, are their opinions just negative (and if that's the case, they're on the wrong site!), if not, why are they only posting their opinions when they can whine?





/jarmo

From Eddie Trunk...

Ran into Bumblefoot at the event who is going to be doing some live shows with Lita Ford this Summer.

http://www.eddietrunk.com/index.cfm/pk/view/cd/NAA/cdid/410511/pid/401816

They aren't ... I Love GNR, I Love Ch Dem, I Love Axl, I used to Love Robin, I Love old GNR, I love new Gnr, I loved the gigs i attended, but i hate the current band status, and the many negative opinions are due to that, but i have no doubts that everybody here his concerned with the band as you are Jarno.

I think BBF's collaboration with Lita is getting waaay to blown out of proportion. I'm sure he is well aware that the chances of a GNR tour anytime soon are pretty non-existant. Especially if these "Axl is holed up in his mansion, firing his manager" rumors are even remotely true.

I think we should just enjoy the BBF/Lita thing while Axl continues battling whatever demons that seem to be trying to bring him down at the moment.

Lita kicked some ass in the 80s. Wouldn't mind seeing what she can do in 2009.

I equated unhappy to disappointed, and not being content with the stagnant state that GNR seems to be in, hence the reason BBF is gigging with Ford obviously.  That's what I meant by unhappy in relation to the discussion.  I'm fine with things the way they are now.  Do I wish they would get out and tour?  Of course.  I would much rather see BBF with Axl than with Lita.  Actually not being a fan of Litas means I won't be seeing BBF until he is with Axl or someone else I like.

At any rate it almost sounds like falungong is starting to turn on this great line up of musicians that Axl has surrounded himself with.

No, he is just being a selfish non-supportive fan who thinks he knows more about what the band members should be doing than they do. It is ignorant to think that there are things they could be doing for the band to get things going but instead choosing to go out and tour with other artists leaving Axl all alone to do everything himself. Yet that is what this board member is doing. It is insulting to Bumblefoot and the others he implicates as not being loyal. I am sure these band members have all run their projects by Axl, who has then given his blessing most likely to do them if he didn't have something GNR related he would rather have them doing.

Anyone who thinks that Bumblefoot would do anything to interfere with the band's forward progress is not a fan of GNR at all no matter how much they otherwise claim. Falungong is clearly not a fan of this line-up that he would infer any of these members would openly try and undermine all that Axl is working to do. It is fans like him that keep us from getting updates.

Now that's funny.





/jarmo

Not to mention that anybody who thinks that Bumblefoot could do that clearly has no clue of what kind of guy Ron Thal is...
Bumblefoot is the one member of the nu-GnR who has given the most interviews about GnR so far. He is the one who spent so much time answering GnR mails when he was recruited that his hands began to give him trouble with his guitar playing. He is the one who went on a promo tour in Europe by himself. He had a guitar designed especially for this upcoming tour.

Give him a fuckin' break. If someone did his job correctly in GnR promoting Chinese Democracy it is Ron Thal and don't start giving him lessons about loyalty when all you care about is actually your own enjoyment. If a tour does not happen, you can't possibly ask him to stay on his ass forever. Plus, it's not as if he joined Faith no More or something...

Chill out, listen to Chinese Democracy. A  tour will eventually happen.

Ironic isn't it.

Jarmo, I think we're all happy we got CD.  That should be a given.  But why do I feel like if tomorrow Axl publicly fired every member of the current band along with Azoff and told everyone not to expect a tour any time soon, you'd still chastize the fans who were outwardly upset about it, telling us to go listen to CD and be happy.  It just doesnt work like that.

but Axl hasn't publicly fired every member of the current band along with Azoff and told everyone not to expect a tour any time soon has he? or will he? :confused:

worries are waste of time.

There are cases where I understand that people are upset or disappointed. But to me it seems like those feelings are what some people are feeling the majority of the time!

They let these feelings "rule" so to speak. Don't you think you need to find something that'll make you happy if that's the case? Take a break or something.



Bitching about stuff day in and day out. For what fucking good?

I still would love to know what this whining has accomplished through the years that you (the ones who do this) have been posting the same old shit? Do you (not necessarily the poster I quoted) think the record came out because you whined about it for ten years?

Don't you get tired of doing it over and over again when you realize that it's not doing any good?

Or is your only comfort that you can maybe bring others down to your level as well? I mean, if you're not happy, nobody else should be allowed to be either right?





/jarmo

Best post ever. 8)

No, she played guitar on Cherry Bomb.

Joan Jett sang.

Actually Cherie Currie was the lead singer for The Runaways.  Joan Jett sang backup vocals and played rhythm guitar.  Although Jett did write "Cherry Bomb".  All according to wikipedia.  I remember seeing something on The Runaways on VH1 and they mentioned their lead singer was not well known like Joan Jett and Lita Ford.

http://www.bumblefoot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4469


I highlighted the important part to those who don't feel like reading a lot.



/jarmo

Sounds good. 8) Bumble is the best.

So looks like he is playing all the dates.  I guess that would rule out anything for GNR until September.  Not that that should be a surprise at this point.  Hopefully we'll get some GNR action by the end of the year.

They must have read my post in which I lectured Falungong for not being a fan.

They confirmed what I told him almost to the word, that they had GNR's blessing and that Bumble was not interfering in GNR's plans.

And to think Jarmo wasn't taking my post seriously.  :hihi: :yes:

Not all of it.




/jarmo

faulongong you truly are clueless.

Blaming Lita Ford for depriving GNR of Bfoot might be one of the funniest posts ever.


well said

GUNS N' ROSES Guitarist BUMBLEFOOT To Tour With LITA FORD - June 9, 2009

GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal will be doing shows over the summer with Lita Ford, playing guitar with Lita's backing group alongside BUMBLEFOOT (the band) drummer Dennis Leeflang.

Says Thal: "Lita and I have GN'R's blessings to do this together; all is cool. This won't interfere with upcoming GN'R plans, I'll be flying out and coming right back."

Upcoming Lita Ford shows featuring Bumblefoot:

Jun. 12 - Redwood Run - Piercy, CA
Jun. 13 - Jackson Ranchero Casino - Jackson, CA
Jun. 21 - Meltaway - Zaragosa, Spain
Jun. 26 - Bang Your Head!!! - Balingen, Germany
Jun. 27 - Gods of Metal - Milan, Italy
Jun. 30 - Rockwave - Athens, Greece
Jul. 03 - Summerfest - Milwaukee, WI
Jul. 04 - Bridgeview Music Jam - Bridgeview, IL
Jul. 17 - Monndance Ranch Jam - Walker, MN
Jul. 24 - Molson Canal Concert Series - North Tonawanda, NY
Jul. 26 - Ridgefield Playhouse - Ridgefield, CT
Aug. 03 - Buffalo Chip - Sturgis, SD
Aug. 22 - Rock Gone Wild - Algona, IA
Sep. 05 - Taste of Cleveland - Cleveland, OH

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=121649

As I said in the Dizzy post...I hope these side projects are not springing up due to inactivity on the GnR front...looking more and more likely that dates before Sept. couldn't be secured.  Being as how it is BBF, I feel reassured it is not going to affect any GnR plans.

I hope Bumblefoot rocks  during those performances. If anything, try to support the guy since he has been the most forthcomming about CD and GNR. Good guy that I hope helps bring Lita back!

It would be possible for a GNR tour starting in August, Ron has only two dates in Aug and one in Sep. I'm sure these are possible to work around.

I'm not convinced she's 50....



On topic: there's obviously no plans for a GNR tour at this point for whatever reason(s) so the members going out and playing with other bands/artists doesn't seem too big of a deal. I'm sure Ron playing shows with Lita Ford isn't the main reason for no GNR tour...

Seriously.  You couldn't be bothered reading the post two above yours??  ::)
Jarmo even highlighted it for you!!!

I didn't notice there's a few large gaps between some of those dates... :hopeful smiley:

I've always spoken out against all the side projects but I guess I should realize that these guys aren't the ones holding up the tour. If a tour was on the horizon, these guys wouldn't be doing this stuff.

So it comes back to why there isn't a summer tour. what plans fell through cause they obviously were planning something cause they were rehearsing and added Ashba.


My problem isn't the fact they aren't touring. My problem is we don't get an update as to what happened.

so basically, you have thousands of negative pissed off forum members out there and not really because there is no tour, but because we get silence and no updates and no explanation of why there is no tour.

If something derailed or things went off track, all it would take would be a statement to the fans just explaining what happened and sure there would still be some negative haters, but the  majority would be cool with it.

it has been proven that the GNR community is majorly positive when updates are happening and there is communication.

Think Ron's been talking to Richard.  Can't go out on the road with GNR might as well support a female act   :smoking:  Look forward to "What I did on my summer vacation" Ron.

Haven't heard much of Leta's stuff but what I did I liked.

Yeah, it's becase she's female ::)

According to wikipedia, Lita Ford will be playing 75 dates this year. It seems like Ron's only playing the start of her tour, hopefully due to GNR comitments.

Seriously I read it quite clearly.  Don't roll your eyes at me, it doesn't become you.  In my opinion GNR won't play any dates this summer.  If I'm wrong, I'll be delighted.  I realize these dates wouldn't hinder any plans GNR might have, yes I read that part, I never thought they would.  If you'd like to do a full investigation to find out what kind of fan I am feel free, but I'm quite satisfied with where I stand.  Thanks for your concern though.

Expect a thorough background check.

I would take a day off from work tomorrow, if I were you.

Yeah that would be cool!  even a short blog on their myspace.
I do hope they get touring soon.  :)

did you just start following the band recently or have you been ignoring the way GnR has been handling business for the last 15 years?   What is new?

Good luck Bumble, hope you have a blast.  Get out there and spread the love.  :peace:

I was hoping once CD came out, all that would change. How hard would it be to post something on the Gnr site saying "due to circumstances beyond our control, we are not able to do a Summer Tour, we apologize to all of our fans who were anticipating coming to see us, but we will do our best to get out there as soon as possible.


Is that asking for too much?

Hate to say it, but I still don't think that would satisfy some people. I would actually wonder what the "circumstances beyond our control" meant exactly if it was stated that way.

+1

Well, maybe he could add another line or 2 depending on what the circumstances were   :beer:

On the other hand, they never announced a summer tour to begin with  :hihi:

as if he had ever confirmed that they were touring stadiums this summer. ::)


Say that after you watch this.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x361x_runaways-cherry-bomb_extreme

Please, don't let the facts get in the way of a good piss and moan  :hihi:

So who is going to any of these shows?  There is one in Illinois and while I wouldn't mind checking it out I'm not sure I'll make it.  I don't think I have even ever heard of the town/city they are playing in.

I was thinking the same thing.  Just come out and say we are not touring this year.  Does anyone really buy this BS about "circumstances beyoond our control" anymore?  Axl either wants to tour or he doenst.  If we dont get to see him this year, than he doesnt, its really very simple.  If touring was something that only a few bands a year could pull off, than maybe I would buy into that BS. Bands make music and tour. Touring is no different for this band than any other band.

Maybe they're not saying that because they intend to tour? It's just that some of you think they won't, just like some though the album wasn't gonna be out.


I recall a bunch of people not being happy about the 2007 tour. Simply because GN'R weren't playing in their backyard and/or "we just want the album".

Honestly, I don't think anything has changed. Already we're seeing people asking about "the next album".  ::)




/jarmo

 reviews/ pics/ tubes will be appreciated!

I hope you are right.  As far as people complaining about where they were playing, That was funny.  If you want to see gnr, why bitch because you might have to drive to see them? I ususally get lucky because I live in btw 2 major cities and they play them both. Its well worth the hour drive.

Ron is playing on the same show as Adler's Appetite

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm could be interesting

Unfortunately Freddie its not that simple. Im sure promoters are not lining out the door to promote GNR. There touring track record as well as late fee payments at most arenas make them a less than desirable option for most promoters. True they can bring in lots of money but honestly they can be a headache to deal with.

Which show is this?

4th of July

Toyota Park Festival
Bridgeville, IL

 :beer:

Bridgeview Musicfest
Lita Ford, Warrant, Lynch Mob, LA Guns, Adlers Appetite, Enuff Znuff, The Leftovers
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 3 PM


Tickets on sale Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Tickets: All ages... $10/day or $15 for 2 day pass (July 3 & 4) Fireworks Display at 9PM!

Parking Lot Open: 12 PM
Gates Open: 2PM

I think you may have pinpointed a big part of the problem. They also don't tour in a very economical way by using the headquarter method. For example, make Chicago the midwest headquarters and fly everyone to and from every show back and forth. Metallica does this too but they are selling out arenas consistently.

Then again I dont think Metallica is a pain in the ass to deal with. While GNR can sell out arenas like Metallica can, they pose a problem with promoters because of the threat of cancelled shows as well as late fees ( venues have to pay overtime to employees after a certain time).

You need to realize that GN'R doesn't really cancel more shows than other acts.

It's a bullshit excuse used by misinformed people who don't want to look at the facts.

Look at the European tour of 2006 or the 2007 tour of Mexico, Australia and Japan.

They canceled some shows in the USA. But not on the scale that some of you want us to believe. It's like you think the 2002 tour is the norm for GN'R.  ::)


Lauren Hill just canceled a full European tour. These things happen.



/jarmo

that's why he said on his facebook he had two days to learn 15 songs, okay...

They may not cancel more than others, but they're certainly up on that list.

I think that they could very well be #1 on the list of late starts and cancellations that result in riots.

Jarmo, 

But you would agree with me that with all of the problems that they have had over the years ( cancelations, riots, late time starts) that some promoters and sponsors would be hesitant to put money behind a GNR tour. I honestly feel that that is part of the holdup right now.

Indeed, and Lauren's career is following the same trajectory as Rose's.

I might actually fly out to Illinois for this. I've been looking to make 4th of July plans and I have some frequent flier miles to burn.

Saw 'Appetite' in March. It really was a kick-ass show.

let's not spin things here. yeah, shit happens and everyone cancels shows. but...

1) metallica and alot of other bands make those shows up.
2) they also provide information as to why it was canceled.
3) it seems like gnr cancels more shows the day (or night) of the show than anyone else.

but i don't think this is part of the holdup. i think Axl may have very specific demands that are not being met. just a wild guess on my part.

So have GN'R.

The Japanese dates did happen. South Africa was two festival dates so the festival went on without GN'R.

I know, you're from Philadelphia so it doesn't really matter to you because your show in 2002 wasn't played.



So has GN'R.




Do you have some statistics on that or is it just because it happened to you?



By the way, this has nothing to do with Lita Ford & Bumblefoot.

Nice to see one of the "real fans" turn it into a GN'R bash fest again.

Good job.

Next time, I'll just remove the off topic shit. Don't come asking me "where's my post?" if you can't fucking grasp the idea of staying on topic.


There's a few of you that should consider finding another site to post at.

Not the poster I quoted who was sucked into this.



Before anybody named Rob, or Peter decides to reply, don't fucking bother.





/jarmo

Why am I being dragged into this? Where did I bash GNR? The only thing I tried to do was offer an explanation to someone on why it isnt so easy for GNR to throw together a tour quickly. Thats all. I never bashed anyone. I feel that my posts are pretty respectful so I would expect the same.

That wont happen on here unless your posts suit certain people's views but i hear ya mate.  :)

Boohoo!

No, that won't happen here if you're a Slash fan trolling the GN'R section.



/jarmo

You have yet to point out my bashing. And how am I a slash fan trolling the GNR section?

What does a GN'R tour and promoters have to do with Lita Ford and Bumblefoot?

That's why your name was mentioned. You dragged this topic totally off topic.


-Rob- is another guy who likes to do similar things.





/jarmo

I didn't change the topic. Falungong was blaming BF for the demise of a possible GNR tour. I was just explaining that there may be more to it. Thats all.

Him saying Bumblefoot leaving for another tour might compromise a GN'R tour is a "reasonable" assumption if you're misinformed.

To then start taking the thread off topic by talking about canceled shows, "late" starts, promoters etc. has nothing to do with Bumblefoot going on tour with Lita Ford.

There's a difference.






/jarmo

Cmon Jarmo,

How is that a "reasonable assumption"?

Do you think that Bumblefoot would jeopardize a chance to make a ton of money touring with GNR in order to tour with Lita Ford who for all honesty is really a nostalgia tour. The crowd for 2 GNR shows would generate alot more money than possibly all of his dates with her. Im pretty sure he had nothing going on and this was purely a financial decision. I didnt change subjects before i was just explaining how other factors might have decided why GNR isnt touring instead of putting the blame on Bumblefoot as Falungong was doing.

I used the term "reasonable" and also the word misinformed.

Meaning I don't agree with it.


I thought it was apparent.




/jarmo

jarmo, can you please put an end to this?  i really hate how every single topic gets taken over by the same hate mongers and trolls.  you have the power to stop this!  don't feed the trolls.  banish them!

Case in point

Not for nothing but ive been holding back a little. Where do you get the nerve to make suggestions to Jarmo on who gets banished or who doesnt? I came in to this board and have been respectful to everyone. Ive never lobbed personal attacks or attacked anybodys viewpoints. If Ive disagreed with someone ive tried to offer a detailed "opinion" behind it. You want everyone who doesnt agree with you banished. Everyone who doesnt agree with you is a hatemonger or a mullethead. Ive seen GNR 10 times over the years ( old gnr/ nugnr). Ive supported every incarnation. I dont feel that anything they do that i dont agree with makes me a bad fan. As human beings we are born with reasoning which helps us come to our own conclusions regarding things.

Shut up, both of you.  :P




/jarmo

Well I'm looking forward to these shows.  I hope we get some good YouTube footage of Ron...first show tomorrow.  :)

me too. I don't know much about lita but imagine cherry bomb with bbf.

i couldnt believe this thread was 7 pages  :o - but reading in reverse from page 7 back, i see that alot of it somehow turned into a GnR/Axl thread when neither of them have anything to do w/ lita ford. 

And didn't bumblefoot just confirm/book these dates with Lita Ford?  A reasonably educated guess would be he did so b/c there will be no conflict with any future potential GnR dates

Once again

Dude, you contadict yourself on the same page :rofl:

now i have a perfectly good reason to hate lita ford.  doesn't she realize she's breaking up gnr at a key point in the band's history?  she and trent reznor should jump off a cliff together. 

it's like the universe is conspiring to ruin all axl's hopes and dreams.  fuck this.

Just to add some humour here: Lita Ford use to be in a band with Joan Jett........... :rofl:

humour?

I believe the ladies covered Dirty Deeds.  Sounds to me like you're making a request?   :hihi:

Yes!~!! :hihi:  Lita Ford : "It ain't no big thing....."
Joan Jett: "I love rock & roll"

*tumbleweed*






:P

Adlers Appetite plays this show:
07/04/2009 - TOYOTA PARK
7300 W 71st St
BRIDGEVIEW, IL 60455
(708) 594-7700
WITH LITA FORD AND WARRANT

Bumble and Popcorn will be in the same venue!

 :rofl:

StoneTempleRoses

If they need a guitar player they can call me. I'll commit for as long as they need.

AC

Joan Jett and the Blackhearts covered Dirty Deeds..The Runaways w/ Lita/Joan did Cherrybomb...

That's two offers to buy dinner from Ron.  Wonder if he's going to keep that up all summer?  Not that I'd let him pay but if he twittered and said he was some where close by and you're welcome to show up, I'd go!

You think Ron will sing Ozzy's part in "Close Your Eyes Forever"?

TRIXTER Bassist Joins LITA FORD's Touring Band - June 15, 2009

'80s hard rock queen Lita Ford has recruited P.J. Farley from TRIXTER/RA as her new touring bassist. Farley joins a band that also includes GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and BUMBLEFOOT (the band) drummer Dennis Leeflang.

A photo of P.J. performing with Lita Ford on June 13, 2009, in Jackson, California can be viewed below (picture taken by Brian Heaton).

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=121933

Here is some footage of Lita Ford earlier this month at Sweden's Rock Festival.  Nothing that I see with Bumblefoot added yet...

Lita ford - Close My Eyes Forever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL3g2fUsHHE

She still sounds pretty good.  She plays a mean guitar too.  I remember seeing an interview with her, I think on That Metal Show.  She described how everyone used to ask her who played the solo during "Kiss Me Deadly", not believing it was her. 

I still wanna see Ron sing Ozzy's part on that song. 

From Lita Ford...


Wednesday, June 24, 2009
   
BEST "FOOT" FORWARD

LITA FORD PUTS HER BEST "FOOT" FORWARD THIS SUMMER
Legendary Female Rocker Recruits Guitar Guru Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal
for Her Touring Band

Lita has added another dimension to her upcoming tour by enlisting
fellow guitar giant Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal to duty by playing in her
backing band.

"I'm really looking forward to getting out on the road with
Bumblefoot," says Lita, who'll break a 15-year touring hiatus with
the jaunt, which will be preceded by a slew of festival dates both in
the states and in Europe. "It only took a couple of practices before
we really connected -- and that hardly ever happens. I've played with
some terrific musicians, but this combination is really something
special."

Lita should know something about the qualities that make a musician
special. Throughout a career that stretches back to her mid-'70s work
with groundbreaking all-female punk pioneers The Runaways, she's been
acknowledged as a masterful string-slinger by dedicated fans and
peers alike, with nods from the folks at The GRAMMY Awards and seven
Metal Edge Readers' Choice Awards, among other kudos.

She opted to put that part of her life on hold in the mid-'90s,
however, when she married fellow rocker Jim Gillette (best known for
his work in Nitro) and concentrated on raising sons James and Rocco.
The family went about as far from the glammy Hollywood rock lifestyle
as possible -- moving to a quiet Caribbean island where tending
gardens and fishing replaced headbanging and crafting guitar solos as
pastimes.

"We're at a point where we can take the kids out with us, and let
them be part of the action," says Lita, who proudly points out that
her sons have never spent a night in the company of a nanny or a
babysitter. "My oldest is a really tough, cool kid. He's 12 and he
loves being a roadie -- he'll run across stage with my Gibson and
work the place like a total professional."

Bumblefoot, of course, brings his own unique brand of professionalism
to the mix. After more than a decade of winning fans and influencing
players as a solo artist and session musician, the New Yorker
bulldozed his way into mainstream consciousness as the primary
guitarist on Guns 'N Roses' Chinese Democracy -- a gig that didn't
get in the way of his own prodigious release schedule, documented at
www.bumblefoot.com.

"I was so impressed by the different styles I heard from him," says
Lita, by way of explaining her decision to team with Bumblefoot. "He
can be really heavy one minute and totally subtle the next. It gives
us an extra dimension."

Lita and her band -- besides Bumblefoot, the crew includes Trixter
bassist PJ Farley, drummer Dennis Leeflang and keyboardist Michael T.
Ross -- will treat fans to an incendiary blend of classics from her
catalog and soon-to-be fan favorites from her loud 'n' lusty new
album, Wicked Wonderland, which is set for release this fall.

"Getting out on the road again is gonna be such a trip," says Lita.
"It's not like getting back on a bicycle -- it's more like going back
to the gym and starting to really work out again after a long break.
But I'm definitely in shape and back up to lifting the heavy weights
again. It's gonna be a blast for everyone."

I...wouldn't say Bumblefoot is the primary guitarist on Chinese Democracy though.  ;)

To the fans he is.  He's the only one talking.  Until somebody wants to babble him off that spot, he's our guy.

He'll take Buckethead parts live and still has tons of his own to play. So I say yeah, he pretty much has a lot of guitar parts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HabfGhUHE0c

niiiiice kick ass solo (http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k307/angelique-denmark/Smileys/guitar2.gif) (http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k307/angelique-denmark/Smileys/headb.gif)

Thanks for posting.  All the videos of Lita performing live are being pulled from YouTube, so watch it while you can, let's hope this one makes it.  :)

I couldn't.  :-\

That got removed quickly...I warned you. :hihi:

Heavy Rain Causes Cancelation Of First 'Metal' Day At Greece's ROCKWAVE Festival - June 29, 2009

According to Metalzone.gr, heavy rain has forced the cancelation of the the first "metal" day at this year's edition of the Rockwave festival, which is being held at Terravibe Park, Malakasa, Greece.

Among the bands that were scheduled to perform at today's (Monday, June 29) event were M?TLEY CR?E, W.A.S.P., ARCH ENEMY, MONSTER MAGNET, VOIVOD, LAUREN HARRIS and INACTIVE MESSIAH.

No announcement has yet been made regarding how this may affect tomorrow's Rockwave lineup, which is scheduled to include appearances by SLIPKNOT, MASTODON, SAXON, KYLESA, TORCHE, DOWN and LITA FORD, among others.

Video footage of the weather conditions at the Rockwave festival on Sunday, June 28 can be viewed below.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=122750

I was in the middle of watching Ron play at the Gods Of Metal Festival and stopped the video....when I went to re-start it, it had been removed.  And it was just added 20 minutes ago.  >:(

 :hihi:

wonder why they're so strict in taking the clips down.  Usually live footage is allowed on youtube no?

Went to last nights show.  No crowd.  Maybe a few hundred people.  Good time though.  Stood right in front of Bumblefoot the whole time.

With Robin gone, I can see BBF taking a bigger role.

If they play new ChiDem songs, he sure will. He deserves it anyway.

Some pics of Lita and Ron.  I'll add more as they come.  Most didn't turn out to great as they were taken with cellphones and we had a few drinks in us.   :peace:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5104/lfab4bf8d172042c59e69e2.jpg

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2526/l2acb7e10ccb843acab7d0b.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7225/l502f951a3a19461d9b9a79.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7287/lcfbd1f0cbdb14b36b7f1f8.jpg

actually they are cool pics. Thanks for sharing jemin. :)

No problem.  Tried to get Bumble to sign my Hammerstien shirt, he told us to go to the side but security made us leave.  Oh well.  He did message my girlfriend through myspace and said that he looked for us but security told him we were gone.

Great pics.  Thx for posting :)

Ron @ 1:55...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1P1Llr4Ho

finally i made it!  :D

met ron after rehearsals  yesterday here in Buffalo - chatted with him 4 a good 20min-half hour!
just such a funny guy & cool cat all the way through!
nothing really major Gn'R related... i knew he gets whiplashed & barraged with them type of things so i just said on that subject
how much i respected the work & can't wait til they get the ball rollin' again.

besides that we just goofed off - dude's fuckin' hilarious
& i suggest all to pick up his 'douchebag' shirt - cuz its just so over the top ridiculous :hihi:

here's a pic 4 you fellow gunners
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/97/l_602e64c02e6449e380e179111fc2563c.jpg)

if you haven't already, get out & see Lita Ford, show is deff worth the time, plus her new songs are pretty sick as well!

Yeah, Ron is probably the coolest guy in the music industry I've ever met.
And the good thing is that it's not a shtick to look cool with his fans or something, the guy is genuinely THAT cool  : ok:

No need to even mention his infinite talent...Can't wait for the day he finally gets involved in writing with GnR.  :love:

Cool stuff. Too bad Ron's touring with Lita and not Guns this summer.

Soon is tentatively the word... : ok:

soon as in possibly knowing something within a month or two would be the best bet.
but who really fuckin' knows?!

just carry on & enjoy what little's left of summer - then come fall we'll get back to the grind...fingers crossed :smoking:

Ron @ 1:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gAryayKuZY

Ron @ 0:40 (hidden by camera)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCd2VAyFa6o&feature=related

Good Song BETRAYAL...

thankz FM

 :beer:

HBK *

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2524/367180271552fb66cc01.jpg) (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/367180271552fb66cc01.jpg/)


 8)


(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3732/3672612174eca9182cfe.jpg) (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/3672612174eca9182cfe.jpg/)


 :beer:

cool pics HBK.


very good quality. also thanks for the time marks.

Love his soloing, Lita is fucking great too. Looks like Vince Neil. :peace:

Iowa's ROCK GONE WILD Festival Canceled? - Aug. 6, 2009

Cityview, Central Iowa's independent weekly, has informed BLABBERMOUTH.NET of the apparent cancelation of Rock Gone Wild, the Iowa-based four-day festival which was supposed to take place August 20-23 at the Diamond Jo Casino in Northwood.

Among the bands that were scheduled to appear at Rock Gone Wild were SAXON, JACKYL, WARRANT, TWISTED SISTER, SKID ROW, LITA FORD, DOKKEN, GREAT WHITE, KIX, L.A. GUNS (featuring Phil Lewis), CANDLEBOX and SEVENDUST.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=124793

Iowa's ROCK GONE WILD Festival Officially Canceled - Aug. 7, 2009

According to a posting on the web site of "House of Hair", the syndicated 1980s hard rock/heavy metal radio show hosted by TWISTED SISTER frontman Dee Snider, Rock Gone Wild, the four-day rock festival scheduled for August 20-23 in Northwood, Iowa has officially been cancelled. Just last month, the festival organizers had moved the Rock Gone Wild festival from Freedom Park in Algona to the Diamond Jo Casino in Northwood.

The Rock Gone Wild organizers have issued the following statement regarding the event's cancelation:

"Rock Gone Wild, an Iowa-based LLC was informed by Diamond Jo Casino, LLC legal counsel on August 5, 2009, that 'the event cannot take place anywhere on the licensed premises.'

"Due to Diamond Jo Casino, LLC refusing to honor its obligation to provide the venue, we are unable to produce the event as planned. This matter has been referred to legal counsel."

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=124906

Lita Ford - Close My Eyes Forever - Sturgis, SD (Ron @ 5:28)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jrZfpb9kKo

Lita Ford Concert Review - Sturgis 2009

Her band couldn?t be tighter on those songs with Guns ?N? Roses? Bumblefoot on guitar, Dennis Leeflang on drums, Michael T. Ross of Hardline on keys, and Trixter?s PJ Farley on bass. There was plenty of group jamming on stage, and it was easy to see from their facial expressions that everyone was having a great time.

http://melodicrockconcerts.com/?p=1290

therealedtrunk - Lita Ford live in studio tonight at 11 eastern on Q104 and www.Q1043.com
about 15 hours ago from txt


Did anyone catch this last night?  Just noticed it now, I'm sure they discussed Ron for a bit.

# Helloooo Cleveland!!! (In Cleveland w/ Lita Ford...) Expecting some kinda random 'Spinal Tap' moment tonight, haha. Any predictions.....?

about 4 hours ago from mobile web

I'm betting the show won't be mixed in Dubbly and thus not sound good.  :hihi:

Hi Ronald !!! (HBK Here, Santiago Of Chile) Good Luck & Blessed Friend...

 :smoking:

Nice vids! They really rock!

When does BBF tour with her ends?

She has a new album coming out Oct. 6th, with an upcoming tour date Nov. 21, Ridgefield, Connecticut, Ridgefield Playhouse and apparently more tour dates will be announced shortly.

According to this brazilian site (http://sites.google.com/site/gunsnrosesonline/noticias-2/terminaaturnedobumblefootcomlitaford) Ron will end his tour with Lita (wich tour continues 'till the end of the year but without BBF). This was posted by HTGH user Mantes n' don't have any font anyway...  ???

Just so people don't go jumping to conclusions like they do on that webpage, this was the plan all along.  Bumble's last scheduled date with Lita Ford was supposed to be Sept. 5th.  Now I don't know if she always had additional dates planned without Bumble or if those just popped up.  But just because he's no longer touring with her doesn't necessarily mean, well you know.

Yeah, Lita is announcing more tour dates soon, but who knows if they will include Ron.

And from Ron's website...

NEXT APPEARANCE...

MORE SHOWS COMING SOON...

 :)

Chickenfoot ??

 ::)

Possibly, we'll have to wait and see.

He did say in one of those interviews that he was starting up a band soon.  That could be it too.

The Magic Word Is:

- S O O N -

 : ok:

From Ron:

# Back in NYC - radio gig with Lita Ford, meeting with printer (TAB book for my 1st album 'Adventures Of...'), Lita's listening party tonight.

about 5 hours ago from web

Lita was a guest on the Eddie Trunk show last week and she spoke a little bit about Ron.  Nothing groundbreaking, and pretty much the same answers we could all give but nonetheless.  She was asked who's in her band now when they play shows and she said Bumblefoot was the guitarist, as in for future shows.  I wasn't sure if Ron was just in for the summer, or what the deal was.  Anyway, she said he was currently rehearsing, or at least she thought he was rehearsing with GNR.  Eddie piped in that he had rehearsed with them before but a tour never occurred.  Then Lita said that Ron wasn't really sure WHAT was going on with Guns but he's ready for whatever happens.  Her husband, Jim Gillette said he didn't think anybody knew what was going on with GNR.  No truer words have ever been spoken.

Magic?, I'd say "soon" is a cursed word!!   :hihi:

Is he sure he doesn't want help getting rid of the in laws--lol  This sucks not having a twitter account.

Anybody know if Ron's performing with Lita in St. Louis next weekend?

I don't think so.  What kind of show is it?  Just her?  I know she's slated to play some shows with Queensryche coming up but it's just her solo without her band.  In the middle of Queensryche's set she's going onstage to do 4 of her songs with them.

No, he's not.




/jarmo

What Jarmo said.

Thanks. 

Yeah it's with Queensryche.  Too bad, I'm making chili and chocolate chips cookies for the crew working the haunted house.  Could have brought him some.