Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Ok so I felt it was time for a resurgence in admiration for the epic work known as Chinese Democracy, released by Guns N? Roses on the 23rd of November 2008.

There is too much shit flying around the boards and a lot of bad vibes, and the recent report from the New York Daily News is merely fuelling this.

So I wanted to start a thread whereby fans can show their appreciation for a truly amazing album.

Right now we shouldn?t care so much about whether a tour is happening, or whether we will ever see new studio music from this band

For me personally, this album is the perfect example of escapism. I come home from work after a shitty day, put this record on, have a jar or two and I feel a whole lot fuckin better.

That?s what music is all about for me, and Chinese Democracy provides it in bucket-loads.

And I'd just like to thank Axl and gnr for that...

correction... let's remember how GREAT chinese democracy is! 

to me, this album takes me on an emotional roller coaster like nothing else.  i want to beat up people when i listen to the hard hitting stuff like chinese democracy and shackler's revenge.  but then i can get deep and philosophical while listening to street of dreams and madagascar.  and i still get teary eyed when i listen to this i love and think about girlfriends and pets that i've lost over the years.

all in all, it is hands down, the greatest album of all time.  there's really nothing that comes close. 

Shacklers is now my song-reference when I need to compare sound systems or mp3 players. I just bought a new one and the song I needed to test it was Shacklers because of all the frequences it has. Awesome tune too, of course.

Ive been listening to this record in a daily basis since November 23rd. Not tired at all, I enjoy it even more. :D

Tis a perfectly Ok album! I give it 6.8 out of 10 on highly accurate LTD-scale.

In that case, i give it 18 out of 10.


the new york TIMES doesn't have a gossip column does it?

anyhoo good call overall : ok:

like voodoo, Im still listening to it daily and finding new appreciation.  :yes:

You know I love this CD since I bought 33 copies!

and the honorary fan annie  plays all the 33 copies at once. :P

Yeah, it's a good record, but we seem to be the only few who care.

I don't understand the logic in putting out a quality record that was a decade and a half in the making, then release ONE official single (which, in my opinion, is the weakest track on the CD), release ZERO official video singles, and not tour in a timely fashion to promote the CD.

"This I Love" is tailor-made for 12-15 year old girls, especially those 'Twilight' fanatics. Not to say it can't reach an older audience-I love the song myself- but that song can do for the band what "Sweet Child O' Mine" did for teenage girls 20+ years ago.

 It's just a real shame that aside from the release of the CD, everything else that has or hasn't happened reeks of typical GN'R of the last fifteen years.

So? Do you need others to appreciate the record?

Do you really wanna use this thread to whine?

Same here!


VERY VERY true!  : ok:

Hmmm.... didn't take long for someone to infect yet another positive thread with the usual gnr-should-do-what-I-want-them-to-do crap!   ::)

On topic:

Been listening to it every day since release. I recently got Rock Band 2 for my PS3. Playing CD is a blast!! For thos of you who haven't tried it yet, satisfaction is garanteed!!  : ok:

This album is the perfect recipe to make me happy instantly. It's refreshing, modern, glamorously aggresive, inspiring.

I look into the past and I wonder... how could I really consider myself a die-hard GNR fan without having listened to this album?

I can be buried by problems, at work, at study, at family, various problems from daily life... but I know I put Riad at some dangerous volume and all my problems are absolutely solved for 4:10

Thank you Axl and thank you all members of Guns for this.

I'm listening to it as I type this.

"chidem rocks & goofballs who don't geddit r 2 used to the dumbed down world we live in today" - Baz via Twitter

 ;D




/jarmo

I have my alarm set to wake me up to the sounds of Chinese Democracy every day.  Can't think of a better way to start the day.  Only problem is, it makes it hard to get out of bed because I want to continue listening.  Thus, my day starts a little later than it normally would.

I have a 6 cd changer in my car and the one constant is always CD!

When is Best Buy's exclusive US deal up?

Had a hard time figuring this out. But I sure agree with Baz! :D

Oh, I always take an extra time to at least finish a track before I turn off my mp3 player. :hihi:

Here here. The album is truly remarkable in my book.

Greatest album of all time.

Only one album is framed and hanging on my wall.
Only one cd is framed and hanging on my wall.
The album and cd?  Chinese Democracy!!!
Beautiful.  :love:

Falungong, why do keep stating it's the greatest album or lineup of all time? There is no question that this is a good album made by good musicians. However, the greatest of all-time?! I respectfully disagree with you on that.  For me and many others, it's AFD and that lineup. Furthermore, I think the greatest two bands were the Rolling Stones and Beatles. Rock music would not be the same without those two bands. 

All in all CD has good quality songs like Better, Sorry, TWAT, IRS, CD, ITW, Street of Dreams, and Madgascar. However, to say the best is really putting it higher than it should be. Enjoy the music  for what it is!

Greatest album of all time!   :yes:

''The Beatles'' (1968) and then CD  ;D

but CD defeats the White Album in one aspect: CD has no fillers. The White Album has that fucking ob la di ob la da shit  :hihi:

That's some damn catchy filler though...

and i guess we can only hope that such a great album may be written every 40 years.

that's sad but true, unless the next Guns album sees the light of the day someday in less than 40 years. Guns is one of the very few bands to be currently able to release a great album in the ?short? term. Metalllica, NIN, something from The Beatles taken from Apple's vaults... and I cant see many more possibilities. Yeah, I'm kinda negative about rock music's future.

I wonder how the next GNR album will be titled. I cant believe there is not a monster speculation thread about the next GNR album's title yet  :hihi:

^ thats funny:D . NOt a day has gone by since and (even before CD came out) that I havent listened and enjoy it as much today as I did all the days before!

no shit this album's great on so many different levels, this morning I'm fucking rockin on the way to work and tonight after a excellent date, cappin shit off with TIL. I find it impossible to express how much better this CD is than anything i've heard in many years.

Every time I listen to Chinese Democracy, I like it more. It is a wonderful album and each song has something special. :love:

Wonder why the negative creeps don't bother to post here in this thread. And man, this place has a lot of them right now.

I'm about to start a new job today. One of the pre-requirements was to like rock n' roll, hehe. And I'm sure I'll blast Chinese Democracy when I got there! :headbanger:

Songs I love in no particular order:
1.TWAT
2.IF The World
3.Shacklers
4.Sorry
5.Madagascar
6.Prostitute
7.This I Love  minus the solo


Songs I like a lot
8.Scraped
9 CD
10.Catcher
11.Riad *great workout song*

song I don't care for
12 Better
13 SOD The Blues RIR III is one of my favorite GNR songs ever though which is weird but Im not a huge fan of cd version
14 IRS

Apart from "Shackler's Revenge", "Scraped" and "Catcher In The Rye", I think it's a pretty great record.

The other tracks range from good to brilliant for me.

Also LOVEEEEEEEEEEEE Catcher the Demo Brian May version but the guitar solos ruin it for me on Chinese D.


Overall, the leaks really destroyed this album for me as I can't imagine how long it would've stayed in my CD player had I heard it all fresh at the same time.


Madagascar though, 8 years later, still have yet to tire of it. best song on the CD IMO.

Ha! That's awesome.  ;D

Good luck.





/jarmo

Thank you! :D

From Baz Twitter:

@jameyjasta 'street of dreams' is a masterpiece ..'rhiad', 'sorry' ....lots to listen to thats for sure!

:D

Now you're talking!!!!!  : ok:
Not only is it a high-profile work of art, right now there is no other cd put out by any artist that can come close to it. I'm not into flash-in the pan type of artists that have one or two good songs on the cd.  :beer:

It's very telling of some people's priorities when they only post in threads where they have a chance to whine about something.....






/jarmo

honestly, man... why don't you just ban them already?  nobody likes putting up with their garbage.  when someone shows up here with a cancerslash avitar, you know they're only doing so to try and rub their shit in the faces of real fans who come here to enjoy guns n' roses for what it is, not what it was or what they think they can turn it into by bitching on the internet. 

just don't give 'em the chance! 

Maybe you should just ignore them.  You getting your panties all in a bunch are what they are after and you fall for it everytime Mr. 69.

I disagree.
sgt peppers (1967) white album (1968), Abbey Road (1969), let it be (1970)are all great/greatest albums. and ob la di ob la da is no filler. It has their own reggae feel.
 
but I agree that
cd is the greatest album.  :yes:


Beatles is far more important than Rolling Stones. "They have had more fans and hits and sold more records!"

Of all the GN'R albums, I find myself listening to 'Democracy' far less than the others.

I'm so surprised!

I don't know what do to.... My whole world view has changed!





/jarmo

He was only stating an opinion or is that not aloud on a forum??? No need to be so childish and sacastic about everything you do, the novelty wore off 2 years ago.

And a guy with "slash" in his username is here to defend him. Everything going as planned.


Read the fucking topic.

Both of you.


Another lame attempt at trying to street a POSITIVE thread into something else by the people with "honest opinions".




/jarmo

Right, if I am so anti-CD and supposedly "hoping for the demise of GNR" could you please find a post I have ever made that talks negatively about the album or the new band? Humour me please.

A little saying we have over here: "On ye bike son!"

I find the album to go good with the GN'R body of work. Picks up and moves on from the UYI albums  :beer:

Exactly my sentiments, picks up where UYI's left off and gives a modern twist to it.

Read - the - fucking - topic.


If you don't get the idea behind the topic, there's this saying you might have heard of: Shut the fuck up.



Looks like you got it eventually.  : ok:



/jarmo

Yeah its right there. Out of all the gn'r songs recorded i'm not a big fan of only 5 songs in the whole body of work. & they came from UYI 2. So i'd give CD an A

As a matter of fact, yes- I would like for others to appreciate the record.

It didn't take just word of mouth for 'Appetite For Destruction' to become one of the biggest sellers of all time. It took a classic video in the form of "Welcome To The Jungle" to get the old GN'R discovered, then it took a video and radio single for "Sweet Child O' Mine" to bust the thing wide open.

Sadly, the majority of the U.S. population thinks there can never be a Guns N' Roses that does not include Slash, Duff, Izzy, and Steven/Matt. They will simply ignore Chinese Democracy, no matter how good it is.

That's why somebody needs to get off their ass and push a single and/or video, with "This I Love" being my recommendation. It's not Best Buy's job anymore to promote the record. They've held up their end of the deal, to carry it.

I'm not whining, I'm trying to get someone to give a shit and promote this album the way it ought to be promoted.

YES the kids of today are growing up on old gn'r. Thats why the new album gets no love. Radio doesn't eveen play it any more witch is sad because i know ppl that work here for radio that like the album...But don't play it because the get calls for all the old songs...i called in for BETTER 7 times afew months ago and it didn't get played once.

The topic is about HOW good CD is right?  How good is it?  Its a question in the topic. A question left to discuss in this thread, right?  So saying its good, but not as good as Appetite, is a legitimate and ON TOPIC statement in this thread, right? Or Is this thread just supposed to be "Chinese Democracy is the greatest ever" posts over and over?  If so, whats the point?  

It's about talking about how GOOD it is, yes, not just randomly saying you listen to it less than the other albums. Does that contribute to the thread at all?

That being said, I still think Chinese Democracy is the best album I've heard. After taking a break from it from some time (to not wear it out completely), I just recently "rediscovered" it, I realized all over again how much of an astonishing album it is. It perfectly describes all the feelings I relate to. The heartbreak, the rock n' roll attitude of not giving a fuck what others say and finding your own way, no matter how long it takes and no matter how much you are pressured, everything. And it's all done with such perfection, and with W. Axl Rose's voice on top! How much better can it get? ;D

The topic is not phrased as a question.  It's a statement.  The title of the thread is not, let's discuss how you feel about Chinese Democracy, good or bad.  There are PLENTY of other topics littered with complaints.  This one was not supposed to be filled with any.  It's quite simple really. 

I think the point is that people should take a little time out from their whining to play the album and realize how great it is.



It's not about comparing. Comparing albums to each other and picking your favorite is a Dead Horse topic.  : ok:




/jarmo

Sorry, jarmo.

I had no idea that the frequency in which I listen to the album would be construed as de-railing a thread or worthy of one of your classy one-liners.

In my defense, this is the first forum that I ever belonged to where only one track thinking is tolerated.

You really have no defense to fall back on. You should be aware of your surroundings by now.


No, you're supposed to listen to the whole album. Not just one track!

No wonder you don't get it.

 :hihi:




/jarmo


No, I'm not being serious about the one track thing....

Haha, I was thinking the same thing when I read his post! ;D
I was wondering which track was the one he was thinking about. :hihi:

Its not, its just tiring that no matter what, there are a few people here who feel the need to remind us everytime that they post that they prefer the older gnr lineups.  Come on now, isn't that basically the message you were trying to convey with your post?   The same message you have in the 203 posts before that one.  We get it.