Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I love the man, but the new York times are reporting that axl is refusing to leave his house. They also say he keeps hiring and sacking Azoff. Crazy eh?

It also says he isn't interested in reviving sales of cd. Probably bollocks, he should release citr because it is amazing!!!

Link,please?

sorry am on my iphone, google guns n roses on news and it comes up.  : ok:

This is a brand new article?

well axl stick to your guns !
im a rider from way back '

Yep, google guns n roses and it comes up with some Whitney houston nonsense. The story is with that, if someone would post a link it would be great.

Before anyone calls bullshit, Azoff's representative commented so even if this is a gossip page there could be some truth to it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/06/...at_you_ask.html

Axl Rose has been having mood swings. The Guns N? Roses front man, an admitted manic-depressive, has fired and rehired famed manager Irving Azoff at least three times in the last five weeks, according to a source. The reclusive rocker is said to be resisting Azoff?s pleas to try to revive sales of the band?s recent album, ?Chinese Democracy.? ?Axl doesn?t want anything to do with it,? says the insider. ?He won?t come out of his house.?

A source close to Azoff admits, ?Axl is Axl. People get hired and fired all the time in this business.?

But Azoff?s rep says that, as of last week, he and Rose are talking again: ?We?re in daily contact with Axl, and we look forward to continuing to support him and Guns N? Roses.?

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/06/...0Hja3PcXd&C

That doesn't make a tour sound very promising............... damn it

I just hope everything is ok with him. fuck the music, I just want him to be happy and healthy.

Well...It wouldn't be surprising considering the current situation : no tour, no video, no interviews, no appearances, nothing.

However, I kinda like Axl's attitude of giving everybody the finger when it comes to his own music. Chinese Democracy speaks for itself and is one of the greatest
album ever recorded imo. The record itself is a statement so having to promote it the regular way would be almost insulting but that's just me and I'm aware
that most people didn't receive it as good as I did and as Ron Thal said, the record deserves to be force fed in the audience throat because it is THAT good.

What I don't like very much is that with this attitude, Axl is also giving the finger to people  who support him. I'm not really talking about the fans because
 I don't feel I'm owed anything honnestly. If anything I feel like I owe Axl and the boys something because I'm really in love with ChiDem. However, it's
probably because of this sort of attitude that he lost Buckethead and Robin.

Honnestly, can anyone blame Robin now ? Look what happenned since ChiDem was released ? Nothing at all. Nine Inch Nails released an album, did a tour and is
in the middle of yet another tour. Buckethead released like, what, ten albums since he left GnR ? This is a choice between loyalty and being active unfortunately...




Finally, while I do believe that plans change, I don't believe that they can change ten times in a row. There is obviously a common factor to all these situations...
I don't think that Axl is surrounded by 100% incompetent people. It's just impossible.


EDIT : and yes, of course, between an healthy Axl and a tour I'd obviously choose an healthy Axl. Not only for him but also because the tour would go really wrong.

Should we put a ton of stock into this article?  The article states Axl's, "an admitted manic-depressive."  Didn't Axl directly refute that at one point recently?  Sounds to me like it's probably a mix of non-fiction and fiction.
...I am glad Axl's sticking to his guns.
...and ditto to what D said, I just want the guy happy and healthy.   :peace:

I call it bullshit. : ok:


sorta self explanatory innit?

If the rep did say it, naturally they'd deny the story.
If they didn't, they needn't.

Either way the tabloid is full of it.
what's nydailynews?

Isn't this on the gossip section of this NYDN? That says how much of a news is this. :P

what is this nydn? surely it's no NYtimes is it? :hihi:

it's nice to see axl has his manager as thoroughly frustrated as his fans are   :rofl:
nice to see he is consistent

just fyi

as brain said they were free to do whatever to expand themselves alongside of GNR.
robin even told NIN fans that he had a great time working on cd and axl is far from a prick.

if anything i assume they hated the label.
and i imagine that the slashing reunionism, either in the industry or among the 'fans', wasn't something they'd wish on their worst enemy.

I have a hard time believing an article when it has "according to a source" or "says the insider" in it. Furthermore, business arrangements (firings/rehiring) has nothing to do with manic-depression. That's just blatant discrimination and ignorance against the mood disorder. 

i remember years ago reading a music magazine when the original lineup was still together that axl stated that he was diagnosed with being manic-depressive, and that as long as he took his lithium, he was OK......but that was long before the internet

problem is Azoff doesn't deny it.

He hasn't confirmed it either.  Until we get confirmation or denial, this, like everything else is just gossip (rumor).

Bingo.


It's unfortunate that any type of forward progress always seems to be greeted with 3 steps backwards.

There is no smoke without fire.

A similar story surfaced after the release of CD.  Remember, Nobody knew where Axl was or had seen him for 2 months.

now this.  Hopefully all is ok with him.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=121490 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=121490)

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/axl-rose-fires-rehires-manager-irving-azoff-three-times-209125

Guns N Roses' Axl Rose won't tour. He's done next to nothing to promote the all-but-forgotten Chinese Democracy. But when it comes to his manager, Irving Azoff, he's a man of action, having hired and rehired him three times in one month.

According to the New York Daily News, the manic-depressive singer is said to be resisting Azoff's pleas to try to revive the bomb album - pleas which, we would assume, run along the lines of asking (or begging) Rose to assemble GN'R and get them on the road already.

According to an insider, "Axl doesn't want anything to do with it. He won't come out of his house."
Hiring and firing - business as usual

    "We're in daily contact with Axl, and we look forward to continuing to support him and Guns N' Roses" a rep for manager Irving Azoff

As proven, not exactly the way to sell an album. A source close to Azoff admits, "Axl is Axl. People get hired and fired all the time in this business."

Azoff's rep says that, as of last week, he and Rose are on speaking terms again: "We're in daily contact with Axl, and we look forward to continuing to support him and Guns N' Roses."

Which probably means another firing is down the line soon.

Hope this is BS. How you going to bring in a new player and NOT go on tour?! they need to come out and say something...

Yeah I think they'll have to release some kind of statement. 

That was just a rehearsh of the original article, but even more harsh.

Really, people stating Axl as a mindfuck should really get a sense of ethic before talking. He said himself how he NEVER had such a diagnostic. And the Azoff's team quotes doesn't sound like in place to me.

The original article is clearly trying to push it into Axl's supposed crazyness. Azoff's team quotes are vague enough to back this shit up, but could easily be taken out of context. Trust me, I'm a journalist and I know what I'm talking about.

Shit like this being published in a gossip section of a shitty website doesn't mean shit to me. Of course they make it belieavable because of all the no-promotion and all, but that's what a rumor comes from otherwise it wouldn't be good enough.

Its laughable how some crows loved the article, tho. It must be like honey pot to bears.

but there is no smoke without fire and one can see how the glove fits.

Anytime an 'article' included the phrase 'which we would assume' you can wipe your posterior with it.   >:(

No sense. Anyone could make this "smoke".

Of couse the glove fits, that's why I said one could believe in that one. That's how people make gossips.

true or not, its stories like this that signal its time for an update from the band.

Reading Axl's Q&A made people believe a video would soon be released.

Several reports are claiming that tours were been planned but seem to have fell through.

Fan confusion over the Best Buy deal.

Now this story leaking around. 

It looks to me as if Axl should come out and give an update to let people know what/if anything is going on.

If he doesnt, then it gives gossip magazine's fuel to sell these stories.  Although its more promotion than we've seen in awhile.

People who are fans won't need any statement to know this is a pile of crap. Stop trying to fan the flames of this shit fire.

people that arent delusional fans would want an update now.  : ok:

If you think people here are so delusional: Fuck off. : ok:


There's no reason for you to stick around is there?

This isn't a Slash fan site.




/jarmo

What exactly is a pile of crap? The gossip story in the NYDN? And you know that how? I'm not saying we should believe everything we read but I don't just automatically pass it off as bullshit either. Especially when GNR seems unable to move forward with any kind of plans right now (including releasing a video that was apparently already completed).

if you keep this saying in mind "actions speak louder than words" it's clear where things are with the band

Amen!! Not saying a thing allows people to come to there own conclusions no matter how crazy some are. Its time to come out and address the rumors. And dont say that Axl doesnt owe us anything. I play in a band and I appreciate every person who has supported my band as well as my art. I take time to speak with people after shows and before shows. I feel like i owe it to them because they sent there hard earned money to see my band and support my art. So i dont think that a few updates here and there would hurt.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/9ks36t.jpg) :hihi:

good shout on the tabloid journalism.

"People get hired and fired all the time in this business"
this rings true.
and axl is of course axl.

With those random quotes of a nameless 'insider' and anyone close to someone put together to suit the story,
t's still nothing surprising or worrying if last week a rep would say they contact axl everyday while bumbles texted axl live on fox news.

Dont get me wrong I would love to have Axl tour and put out more music.  But if being in the music biz is gonna make him go off the deep end I would rather have a happy healthy Axl that doesnt give us new music than to have no Axl at all..  New music or no new music, tour or no tour. Axl the real fans love you.  All the other are just haters. "I dont give a fuck bout them cause I am crazy"

God dam New York Times how would they know that is Axl still in New York state???

Jarmo dam a bit harsh but he did deserve it although a update would be nice...