Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Slash just sent out a Twitter confirming this. Here is the comment and then a link to his Twitter account if anyone wants to follow him.

Izzy is down here putting some rhythm gtr on a track, sounds fucking cool. #fb

http://twitter.com/slashhudson

HOLY SHIT

now just get Adler to put drums on that track, bring Duff in for the bass and make a phone call to someone.............

don't get too excited man  :rofl:

As long as he helped write, should be fucking amazing.  Otherwise, still cool but not as cool as it could be. 

cant wait to hear who sings on that song?!

anyone knows where slash is recordin? i know he was here in new york, is he still here?

Dave Kushner...?  ???

No, Rod Jackson of course.

Remember, D is a realist.






/jarmo

HAHA

Steven Tyler is who I meant

You never know. I am interested to see who sings on it though, because with Slash on lead, Izzy on Rythm, Chaney on Bass, and Freese drumming (assuming this isn't the Popcorn Adler track - although that would be pretty damn awesome to) it should be a pretty bitching song at least musically. He's got some pretty top flight singers lined up, so I am expecting strong vocals pretty much across the board.

SlashHudson:There is an unmistakable sound that me & Izzy's guitars make when performed together. #fb

I just saw that, I am so fucking pumped for that song.  :drool:

i'm very pumped to hear this track.. i'm even pumped to find out who is singing on it.. i have no idea how good adler is now a days but it would def be cool if he played on this track.. i haven't heard anything about duff being on it.. but why not ask him to join them too?  i'm really excited for this album.. its good to have something to look forward to.  ive been looking forward to CD for years.. now we have that.. this is the album that i'll really be looking forward to

So, Guns and Roses on Slash's album. Great.  :peace:

say what?   Is Bumblefoot making an appearance?  Did i miss something?

No, but Josh Freese is... 

I predict this is going to have Adler on it as well.  To get Duff on board would be killer as well.  I hope its Stephen Tyler, what about Mick Jagger?????

This is awesome news!!!!! 

Hopefully its the same track that Adler is playing on.  How cool would that be, Slash, Izzy,  and Steven again!  Would be great if they called Duff to do Bass and found a great singer for the track.

This is gonna ROCK!

Fucking awesome! Between 1998 and 2002 Slash and Izzy have been recording together once in a while, nice that now we're actually gonna get to hear that combo again 8)

I'm thinking Steven is also involved on the track, since the plan was he was also gonna record a track one of these days.. I wonder who'll sing on it, hopefully it's Izzy aswell 8)

You've always gotta add your two cents don't you? It's like you're lurking on these threads, just waiting to pounce... :rofl:

If this is the track he is having popcorn drum on he needs to go all the way and have Duff on there with his base. It is like a huge tease to have Slash/Izzy/Adler on it and no Duff. The fans would absolutely love it, as it has been 20 years since we have heard a new song with those 4 on it.

Love Slash's comment about he and Izzy's guitar sound. When you have chemistry like that with someone you don't just lose it. It has been a while since they recorded together, but I bet it's like riding a bike where if you haven't done it in a while it takes you a minute to get your balance back, but once you do it's like nothing has changed. I bet the same goes for Steven's drums on his song, I am totally expecting that awesome groove and big booming sound he used to have back in the day.

Lets not worry about the secret Slash fan.  :rofl:

I think so, but never it's tooo late. First of all, try to get AFD, Lies and Illusions I & II.

Should be cool. Im interested to see if the magic is still there.

So izzy wrote his own rhythm part right?

That will be magic

if he is just playing something Slash wrote for him, we will have to see

Yep he always does:

From the 2002 GUitar One magazine (AFD 15 year anniversary):



New Steven 'Beat' interview:

It sounds like the type of song Izzy would play on it.. I really thing the 3 of them are playing on the same song. Either way looking forward hearing the Slash/Izzy sound again

I would think Izzy came up with his own part. At least we know with the comments about that unmistakable sound Slash and Izzy's guitars have together whatever it is it was written in a way that captures a sound like that of what we used to hear in the band they were previously members of. That is enough for me to be hopeful.

I have all those albums, but that doesn't explain why you are making retarded and FALSE statements about Guns N' Roses appearing on this album.   No current band members (as far as we know) appear on the album.   Just don't say stupid shit like that.

Jim Bob

Izzy,Duff,Slash and Adler will always be "Guns N Roses" even if they aren't in the band.

GNR isn't some "Name" it is a style and type of music

if u have all 4 guys who wrote the music creating something, that is Guns N Roses. I could care less who OWNS a name.

yeah, I agree, thats some really stupid shit.....I mean,  i don't understand how izzy and slash playing on the same song can be confused as a guns and roses song-even if steve was playing drums

obviously, it CAN'T be guns n roses without axl singing;  DJ, Bumble, buckethead, tommy and Robin Finck playing guitar; chris making sound effects, frank or brain or josh playing drums, etc.

it may sound alot like something GnR once did a long long long time ago-but it's most definitly not GnR

how can you be so senseless D?

you don't get to decide what is or isn't GnR.  You dont own the fucking name, so kindly shut the fuck up.

dude, why so grumpy?

people are psyched that izzy and slash are playing on the same song? since you hate slash so much, why would you post in a thread about said artist's solo project?  I looked this up for you so you can comment on this: http://twitter.com/robinfincktwits

please stop spamming on this....alot of people are really psyched; and out of this board, fb, other GnR boards, your are about the only one w/ negative posts about this.....go figure, a hard core, "true" GnR fan has no interest in a slash/izzy song............

so, there's your hero's twitter, please follow him out of here

I don't understand how a fan of Appetite and UYI wouldn't be psyched about the possible collaboration of the guys who wrote the music for those groundbreaking albums.

mindboggling to me as well-

i tried to help out w/ fink's twitter address so others can follow some incoherent babbling

I'm a fan of all things GNR, BUT I never really got into any of the side projects past or present, so I wouldn't say I'm "psyched" about the collaboration.  Interested, would be a better word.

I understand these guys aren't in "Guns N Roses" but they are 4 of the 5 that helped define the unique style etc. that was once Guns N Roses.

so those 4 recording again would be  exciting as hell and I don't understand how anyone who calls themselves a fan of Afd and uyi wouldn't be excited. it is just weird.



I can give people a pass who maybe just discovered the band in the last 10 years or so. For me, I was never a fan of Metallica and didn't grow up listening, so when i buy Death Magnetic, that for me is my favorite Metallica album and I bet die hard fans would call me insane.

But people who have grown up loving this band and Appetite and UYI, it just blows my mind how someone wouldn't be interested in this.

Well, VR had 3 UYI GNR members and while I thought Contraband was great Libertad was a bit of a letdown.  So sure I'd be interested, but I wouldn't necessarily set my expectations to an all time high.

i was a freshman in high school in 87 so i guess I grew up w/ Gnr

and metallica as well; but I started losing interest in metallica w/ and justice for all--to me ride the lightning, master, and the EP were the be all, end all....everything after went downhill but the black album was ok

i can understand why you would feel that way-but, it's a slightly different dynamic in terms of the izzy/slash vs slash/dave writing dynamic

i can understand being excited about the collaboration.   it could turn out sounding pretty cool.

but to label it as guns n roses is a huge slap in the face to the band we are here to support.  that is all.

I get that, Izzy was obviously a huge part of the recipe for GNR's success.  Great songwriter.  BUT, like I said before, I never got into his solo stuff, never got into Slash's Snakepit or Blues Ball Band.  Maybe together they can create something I'd enjoy, we'll see.

If you liked the guitar sound in old GNR it sounds like you will like this song. That distinctive sound he references was one of the major aspects of the success they had.

There is a band dynamic and chemistry that is undeniable  though. u take an ingredient away and it changes everything.

I have played in bands all my life and last year I played with 3 dudes.

And I swear, as soon as we plugged in, u could just feel IT. it is hard to describe to people who don't play, but I've never felt this kind of connection with anybody else.

we would literally write songs from scratch on the fly. The drummer would start a beat, i would begin riffing and the other 2 would join in without any communication or I'd start a riff and everyone would join in or the bass guy would start with a riff etc etc  and we ended up with 8 really killer songs out of it.

drummer moved to NY, we tried replacing but that magic was just GONE.

I was a 10 times better player with those 3 guys than I am on my own cause the magic and chemistry in the room just elevated everything I could do higher made me faster, more creative just everything.


so I can understand what they are talking about when they talk of the chemistry and how their sounds are etc.

so i am very excited


I am not dissing "Guns N Roses" but it has a great chance of sounding like Appetite Guns N Roses.

I get that, but if it's just the 2 of them can they recapture the magic that the 5 original guys had?  I'm not so sure.

That is why alot of us are hoping this is the track Slash specifically wanted Steven to play on as Adler said.

Popcorns drum sound had that unique vibe and sound to it, and couple that with the Izzy/Slash guitar sound and I do think they could recapture that distinctive sound.

well that is where Adler comes in and maybe Duff on bass

sure u aren't gonna recapture everything cause Axl was a HUGE part

musically however, and I love the "Music" these guys made, it can be right there.

Appetite is great to me, cause not only does it have amazing vocals,melodies and lyrics, but the music is fucking awesome,melodic,rhythmic and stands on its own.

so if they could get a really great rock singer like Tyler or somebody to sing, it could be pretty damn amazing.

This is where I am crossing my fingers Slash throws us a bone. If nothing else it would be great publicity to hype the 4 of them playing their first track together in 2 years when he does his huge promo blitz I am assuming he will do if his book tour is any indication of how he will get out there for his album.

As you said, with someone like Steven Tyler on vocals it could be something that might interest those who were fond of that classic GNR sound if he promoted that line-up creating the music.

all I have to say is that this would rock if the 4 of them get together!!

I don't see why Slash wouldn't put all 4 guys together on a track (if Duff is involved).  It'd make more sense than to spread them out to individual tracks, and like you said drum up a lot more interest and publicity.  Duff's been pretty busy of late though, so I don't know how likely it'd be for him to guest on the record.  3 out of the 5 would still be good, but obviously 4 would be a bigger deal.

theoretically, if he was going to play on this song, Duff could have his parts done already looking at his tour dates as he had 8 days off between PA and OK City and three days off before Europe.

5/19/09 - New York, NY - Blender Theater @ Gramercy
5/20/09 -  Wantagh, NY - Mulcahy's
5/21/09 -  Allentown, PA  - Crocodile Rock
5/29/09 - Oklahoma City, OK - Zoo Amphitheatre (2009 Discorus Festival of Rock)
5/30/09 - Kansas City, MO - Liberty Memorial (KQRC Rockfest)
5/31/09 - Des Moines, IA - Indianola Balloon Field (LazerFest)


European/U.K. Tour 2009

6/3/09 - Helsinki, Finland - Virgin Oil

Slash doesn't seem too good at keeping secrets though.  If Duff was on we'd probably know by now.  It is possible, but you know what I'm saying?  That seems like something Slash would be DYING to tell people. 

yeah, i get what your saying there as well - but, that being said (there's always a BUT :hihi:) to me, duff playing bass on a song wouldn't be as noteworthy as Izzy since Duff is in his band already and they've been playing together since 2004 -

also, Slash seems to be doing a good job of keeping the singers identities under wraps; he hasn't name one!  though perlla and others confirmed or alluded to the fact of an appearance, Slash hasn't named anyone :-\

wonder if slash would consider asking axl to sing on it.......

I think everyone is making too much out of this.   ::)  So, Izzy's playing on a song.  Adler's going to be on a song.  So what?  I think it's awesome but it in no way makes it a GnR collaboration.  Duff's not going to be on it, I'm sure.   

Where does the fact that Izzy is contributing something and Adler is contributing something make it a potential opportunity for some "reunion"?  Say what you want about Slash, but I don't think he would do that and I don't think there's anything more to it than a couple of people he's played with in the past contributing to his album in some way. 

When I heard Izzy was gonna play on Slash's solo album and maybe it's the same track where Steven plays drums on, the thing that never jumped my mind is 'we'd get to hear something very close to GN'R or reunion stuff' or whatever. As far as I'm concerned we're just getting kick ass songs.. cause you really can't go wrong there with Izzy and Slash in the mix. Maybe it won't sound like GN'R, maybe it will, but it atleast it will be kickass 8)

Should make for a cool track!!!!!

No twitter updates since though  :'(

I agree.  People seem to think Axl is the only reason a reunion will never happen.  While he's obviously a major player I'm not sure Slash would want to go down that road either, especially with what Axl has said about him recently.  Really the only person we know for sure who'd be interested in a reunion is Steven.  The others seem quite content with what they're doing right now.

Enough reunion talk though.  I would be interested in hearing a Slash/Izzy song, but I wouldn't expect anything otherworldly.

In March this year appearantly there was a new Izzy album in the mixing stages.. hopefully it will be released soon

this may come as a surprise, but in the 3 pages of this thread, you, lyn1961, and Faldo are the only ones who mentioned the word reunion  :hihi: (Ctrl+F)

Maybe it wasn't said with the word reunion, but it certainly was alluded to tenfold.  4/5 GNR, real GNR, the real AFD/UYI sound.  If that's not along the lines of reunion talk, I don't know what is.

nobody is mentioning a reunion but the people against it

we just want to hear 4/5ths of the Appetite lineup record something cause we are a fan of that album and would love to hear what the 4 of them 20 years later sound like.


the anti-reunion police are so quick to strike.  Hell, this isn't Beetlejuice where if we say it enough it will happen.

I'd simply love to hear a song with these 4 on it together and I'd love to hear the album Slash,Izzy,Duff and Matt recorded.

nobody said "Real GNR" just it was 4/5 of the GNR afd/uyi lineup and if those 4 recorded a song it would be an AFD GNR reunion almost.

I think it is cool with just the 3 of them playing, or even just Slash/Izzy Slash/adler on a song each.  4 of them together would be cool, but it is still gonna be a lesser version of GNR without Axl on vocals.  I'm looking forward to it either way.  Plus, it is a Slash solo album, so he is probably trying to branch out more and play with other ppl.

I just think it would make sense if u were gonna have adler and izzy on the album to put them on the same track. That would be another good selling point.

first track from the appetite rhythm section in 20 years.

i agree

the facts are the facts :hihi:
not what was alluded to

I think it was YOU that brought up whether Slash would call Axl to sing on a track.  Is that not along the lines of reunion talk?  I certainly think so.  Sorry if I misinterpreted that.

it's cool ;D
but never insinuated or said that word!

definite misinterpretation of my intent w/ that statement/question you referenced.......but it's all good

my intent was just a one off, olive branch, type situation - you know, make peace, ease hard feelings, etc.  --- ever have a bad split w/ a friend where you don't speak to them in quite a long while and try to make ammends? anyone remember messier burying the hatchett w/ the rangers when he resigned? or do most people here like all-time, generation long bitter feuds like shakespeae used to write about?

Is Slash, Izzy Stradlin y Steven Adler on the record!!!. Most of Guns n' Roses music came from Slash and Izzy mind. Guns n' Roses it is much more than Chinese Democracy or "present". No matter band, song or record names, just matter the musicians, if I have Slash and Izzy working on a new song, I have the same feeling and essence of Appettite, Lies and Illusion I & II, in other word, Guns n' Roses.

Do not try to change my mind with your histerical GNR vision, I like current GNR, but I didn't know the band five years ago.

The Izzy-Slash chemistry is much-vaunted and yet by the time they mixed UYI it was generally forsaken, Slash overlaying rhythm guitar tracks over Izzy's.

Yeah.. Izzy's guitar is burried mostly.

I remember Izzy saying in an interview post AFD but pre UYI what he'd do differently on a next album, he said he'd use a half stack / go smaller this time around and would like to bring out a little more guitar sound difference compared to Slash. Which imo you can hear more on UYI, where he mostly used Carvin amps (which Mike Clink wasn't fond of).

I'm very curious to hear what the Izzy / Slash combo would sound like these days, especially the 2001 Izzy/Slash/Duff/Taz recordings 8) The thing with Izzy's albums is you always have a clear and upfront guitarsound going on, much more then on GN'R and VR albums.

Didn't Izzy not really show up for a lot of the sessions though which is why Slash had to do more guitars?

I don't know, Izzy's name appears in most song credits.

I actually reading an interview of Izzy round the time his first album was released and he was recalling listening to the Illusion album for the 1st and wondering : where the fuck is my guitar?

There are three things about this I've read in interviews, from both Axl's, Slash and Izzy's side:

AXL:
Izzy was around, did all the basic tracks. But what happened was that Izzy's a one take guy, he'd lay down his guitartrack and that was it. When Axl asked to re-record something he'd refuse saying he'd already layed it down and thought it was fine.

SLASH:
He was only around for basic tracks, sometimes he wanted Izzy to play more aggressive but Izzy wouldn't do that. That's why Slash plays all guitars on Locomotive for example and also Coma, but Coma Izzy couldn't play cause of it's structure. He kept forgetting all the parts cause it had a mathmatical structure / never the same. Izzy also confirmed this about Coma. Slash said they ended up using most of Izzy's scratch tracks and he removed Izzy's parts by his own where it wasn't to their standard.

IZZY:
Izzy said when they where recording he'd show up at 12 o' clock at the studio like they all agreed, waited for 4 hours but nobody was there so he simply left again. He said he was there but all the others were either late or didn't show up. And he said that with Axl he was always late, but refused to wait on him cause if he waited till he showed up then next time he'd show up even more late. Basic tracks for UYI only took two weeks and it took a year before the vocals were finished, so Izzy went back to Indiana and painted his house (no joke, he said this  ;D ).

 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: That is a fantastic story and so Izzy

I think its all Slash on Don't Cry as well.  I liked Izzy's "loose" feel.  Its how they got that Stonesey feel.  Maybe it got too sterile with Slash playing it so "perfect".  But you can say that about both albums.  That being said, I still love UYI, its just different that appetite.  Coma and Locomotive are two of the finest songs on those albums.  Along with Civil War, another song were Izzy isn't on the recording. 

Why was Mike Clink not fond of Carvin amps? Is the sound they generate a love it/hate it affair, or just really hard to mix?

Actually, I think Izzy's guitar is on Don't Cry and also on Civil War although the latter one says otherwise in the credits (just like Coma and Double Talkin' Jive which have incorrect credits aswell, Izzy doesn't play the solo or rhythm on Coma) :)

I don't have any way to prove it, but on Civil War for example you have those three notes played on Izzy's side during the verse, if you compare the playing of those notes to Civil War farm aid then to me it sounds similar in sound and style like on the album. I think Slash would sound a bit different on it. With Don't Cry, that one's Izzy's song musically and I think plays on it.

I like Izzy's loose feel aswell, songs like Don't Damn Me, it's like he's deliberatly trying to make the song less aggressive and more funky with his parts.

@ Axl'sMainMan, It was mentioned somewhere in a Mike Clink interview, he only mentioned how Izzy was messing around with Carvin amps which he wasn't a fan of. There are some adds out there with Izzy playing a Carvin amp, he used a Carvin XV-112EV Studio Tube Amp.

i use to have a Carvin stack and I wasn't a fan either

You may be right... I just remember reading Slash had to re-record some of Izzy's parts and clean them up.... I don't know...  Slash was MUCH more involved on the guitars on the Illusion albums.