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Just curious what everyone prefers areanas or stadiums. Please none of the "I don't care, as long as they tour" comments. To me stadiums are too big, the bands seem to get lost on the stage and a good portion of the crowd lose the live experiance because they are better off watching it on the jumbo- trons.
Clubs are not an option, this is GN'R not VR.....

Neither... Go with places like Hammerstein, we know GNR can do that  : ok:

It's not really an option is it? If you look at the subject line.....


Playing a stadium isn't that different from playing a festival.

I don't mind it.




/jarmo

i don't care as far as I can see them at the front row!...that's unlikely whether it's an arena or a stadium.

so i guess the bigger the better.

I like the bigger places for the stage show, I love the huge spectacle of it. But, then again, i love the smaller palces for the intamacy. So either way, I'm happy.

i don't mind either one. I usually get good enought ickets were i'm happy. But if i had to choose i'd pick staidums.

They tie, hows that??

I'd like to see them play at Madison Square Garden. It will be the only concert I'll buy a ticket to see for this year since no one else has put out anything that is worth while to go see.
Nice summer night. We're seated at the Garden. First song: You could be mine!!!!!!! : )

Up close and personal gigs are so intimate!  I love the old GNR shows at the RITZ,on the UYI tour the stage was like a mile wide and therefore the band had less chemistry.

Interesting to see how this pan's out though.  :)

I'm not big on Stadium shows BUT I've always wanted to see GNR outdoors in the summertime. For some reason they always come through Detroit in the butt-ass cold and play the Palace. So to be honest I'd take a stadium show in the summer just for something different.

Festivals are kind of irrelevant. If you look at the subject line...

jarmo isn't saying he prefers festivals to stadiums and arenas is he?

You shouldn't try to be a smart ass if you're gonna suck at it.


I said playing a stadium isn't that different size-wise to playing a festival, so since I don't mind festivals I don't mind stadiums. See, on fucking topic!

It's not that hard.



/jarmo

Sounds good, I'll just make a new thread : ok:

So if this topic doesn't include comparing clubs, why did you delete my topic that did? Doesn't really quite make sense to me. ???

It's in Dead Horse because we don't need this section full of "venue vs venue" threads. :)



/jarmo

I've yet to see GN'R, so i'm happy wherever they play!

A nice indoor arena i think i would prefer IMO
I remember seeing Iron Maiden at Twicenham stadium last year, altough it was a superb show and the crowd was great,the sond can get blown around, and it gets cold come night fall! (Not to mention GN gigs tend to start later than planned, so it's an even longer wait)

I like a more intimate setting to be honest, but I have no problem rocking out in a Stadium with thousands of GnR fans !

Either one is cool with me.

well one thing about staidums is sometimes you gotta worry about bad weather.

didn't their 4-5 shows at the Hammerstein in 2006 get rave reviews, sell out in minutes, and generate huge amounts of positive publicity

So what are they considering stadiums vs Arenas.  If comparing to 2006 GnR was not selling out 10-20 000 seat Arenas so they are now going to try and sell out 50-80 000 seat Stadiums? 

As a spectator, small venues are by far the best.  More intimate, better crowd energy, better acoustics, everything.  To me it gets progressively worse the bigger the venue gets unless it's one of those venues like MSG where there's just something special about it, but then you have the ticket prices

You can get lower end tickets to a stadium show for $30-40 whereas if it's an arena you're paying $60-70 for the cheapest seats and if it's a theater you might well be paying upwards of $100

The stadium idea is great if they put together a strong touring lineup that includes 4-5 quality, bigger name bands (including Guns of course) and you can get in a 6-7 hour show for $40 bucks or so, that's a great deal and it's an event so a it's kind of cool to see the huge crowd

the problem with festivals and stadiums is that you have many people not really being interested in the last band, being too drunk and tired from all the other bands and beer and stuff. so i'd rather see a headliner tour with 2 cool but smaller support acts and many dates within a country than only a very few big stadium shows with many or big bands within 1 country....i'd pick the smaller venues in general.
as long as they dont shorten their show under 2h because of so many other bands i dont mind too much though, but as they did very good in that at the 2006 festivals this probably isnt an issue.

Everybody wants GN'R to play in their living room, backyard, bar or whatever. ;)

But you have to look around you.

Maybe it's not a viable option to play lots of gigs in small venues?

So you're "stuck" with arenas, amphitheaters, festivals, stadiums and other bigger capacity venues.

Which ironically enough is a luxury for many bands....





/jarmo

Stadiums will be definitelly better if they can sold out. I've watched Metallica at the National Stadium here (Bulgaria) 65.000 and it was fantastic. In my opinion they should do both. 

I'd prefer smaller venues like arenas and theaters but if they want to do stadiums, i think they only will do a select few.

I thought it was really cool when the Stones came to town and played a 2,000 seater, 20,000 seater and 50,000 seater back-to-back-to-back... obviously GN'R aren't popular enough right now to do this, but even throwing in one or two club gigs in the really big markets the night before the big stadium show would be awesome.

There is something to be said about seeing a show outdoors......so I am all for it.

Arena for me - I saw Metallica at Wembley stadium 2 years ago, the experience is lost, and they did not sell out (so I don;t think Guns would either) - I would rather they play the O2 in London - great acoustics and a packed 20,000 would make a great atmosphere

(Plus at Stadiums, lots of bands (Metallica, Chilli Peppers) do gold circle tickets, which cost a bomb, get the best position, but they are not usually filled up due to the cost and the crowd loses a lot of energy becuase many of the fans won;t stump up the ?100 or whatever for those tickets) - so please arena for me  : ok:

MSG is so over-rated.I prefer the Nassau Col. on Long Island...or even the outdoor venue at Jones Beach..Just stay away from GIANT Stadium....

When I caught GNR/Metallica in 92... I needed binoculars and really couldn't hear shit. I don't like stadium tours. I don't like festivals either. I like arenas better. I was like 7 feet from Axl and the boys... there's nothing better than that. Unless I could be backstage and partake of the drunken mechanical bullriding too.

In short arena < stadium. IMO.

(Out of topic) But I would've given my left nut to be at Rosario Dawson's B-Day bash when they did the acoustic performance. That would own all. Come to think of it, if GNR would do VH1's Storytellers or MTV Unplugged it would be ridiculously awesome.

I prefer smaller venues, for my viewing pleasure, but just like Jarmo pointed out, we all want GN'R playing our backyard!  :beer:

I loved watching them in El Ejido, Spain in 2006 because there were like 10.000 people there tops. I also loved watching them here in Portugal in Rock In Rio. That was a kickass gig!

So as far as I'm concerned, we should all be happy that GN'R are considering touring.  ;D

That's the best news this year.

What is the difference between a stadium and an arena? Where would they play in Chicago?

Where the Cubs play I would imagine... that's like over 50,000 people. You need a lot of faith to sell that out.

 


It would be All State Arena vs Soldier Field.  I saw the Dead at SF and it was a good show, sound was OK.  I don't see the Cubs or the Sox letting a concert take place in their respective stadiums during the season. My money would be on SF.

For the band, its better play in Stadiums.

To general public, arenas looks to fit better, because we  felt the great energy.

Thus, I will be with the public...


'Morley

I hate Soldier field. Would the United Center be considerd a stadium?

The United center is an arena, albeit a large one.  I think a general rule of thumb would be that if a hockey or basketball team play in it, it is an arena.  If a baseball or football team play in it, it is a stadium.  Of course there are some exceptions.

Thankyou so much. I hope they pick United Center. I saw the Rolling Stones at SF and UC and UC was so much better! Besides they call the current SF stadium Godzilla's toilet.

I prefer arenas, for the most part.  You don't have to worry about weather or a whole shitload of other factors.  And, on a purely selfish note, we don't have a good stadium in CT, really.  I suppose you could play Renchsler field, but.....eh...not my first choice for a concert venue.

That being said, there IS something almost "magical" about a stadium show when everything goes right.

As for "how could they fill it"....there are lots of things they could do (assuming we're talking about the US...they have NO problems outside the US).  First and foremost would be to put together a good cadre of bands to go with them.  There are CERTAINLY combinations of bands they could put together to play the "undercard" that would help put butts in seats.  They could also do something with ticket prices, special guests, etc.  There's ways to do it.

On second thoughts
if a stadium tour means more other bands and fewer shows in the area within my reach, I definitely prefer to see more GNR shows at arenas.

overrated?? stay away??  :confused:
oh wait ... I get it ... you're trying to make a joke, right?
overrated ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA   :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:
stay away ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi:


Oh please.  ::)  To the rest of the world (outside Long Island), the Garden is a legendary venue that most artists would kill for to play and as for Giants Stadium ?.. it?s GIANTS STADIUM!!!  8)

Absolutely. MSG is definitely legendary. All bands dream of selling it out. It's a major accomplishment to do it. There may be prettier, nicer and newer arenas but everyone from Led Zepplin to Pearl Jam have immortalized that triumph with a live concert film.

Giants stadium??? To say the least it's one of the largest venues in the US and it also houses the BIGGEST names in music like The Boss. Only a handful of artists can fill it.

Cool if they did some theater shows along with the arenas and stadiums.

Personally I don't think there is a difference. They are both the same to me. Stadiums  and arenas mostly remind me of football and it depends on how the band sets up the stage as to whether or not you get a good show. Personally I like outdoor venues especially in the summer but generally smaller venues than a stadium. If the stage is in the middle of the stadium with nothing blocking any side of the stage, which I think would probably be impossible to do, it would be a great setup because you could see from anywhere and the band could play to the whole audience. But I've been to see concerts at stadiums and generally the band looks like ants and I have to watch the jumbo-tron to see the show. I've never ponied up for front row tickets and in this economy I doubt I'll be able to afford to do that for this tour. But I will get a ticket and watch the jumbo-tron. 

Definitely arenas becoz ull see better and sounds better and much greater atmosphere

+1

I have zero complaints about the 06 tour other than they didn't play "estranged"... lol.

Loved the sound quality, how close I was to the band. Nothing beats looking at Axl dead on in the face singing back the lyrics of CD, having him look at me, point at me and have Richard nod his head at me. It's a memory that will live with me forever... and I know I would never have that at a Stadium.

The band sounded amazing... Axl fucking destroyed the stage.... he was flawless. One of the best shows I have ever seen... bar none.

wasnt PC video from Giants stadium?

I Preefered ARENAS

HBK *

I'd prefer Gn'R to do some arenas... they're smaller and if i'm being honest, I really don't see them selling out a lot of stadiums, so really this whole idea of a "stadium" tour kind of confuses me.

yes it was and i was there. it was also shot at donnington.

MSG is the greatest, most legendary arena in the world.  And by far the best arena to see a concert at

You are just pissed because despite their 4-peat dynasty in the 80's the Islanders have to play in the Nassau dump while the much less admirable Rangers get MSG  :hihi:

One of my favorite Elvis albums was recorded at MSG. I always wanted to go to a show there just because of that.

i'm goin to see ac dc in a stadium in a couple of months, that should be interesting,


and i did see Guns in Rock in Rio 06, which was mostly a guns gig, because the only other international act was Darkness, and well, they're just an opening act, and there were 70.000 people over there. it was great. drinking beer in the grass before the gig, it was just like a big party and gn'r pulled it off  : ok:


arenas are ok, but stadiums offer more fun for a lot more time


i remember the guns tour with FNM and Soundgarden and people were entering the stadium at 3 o'clock, that's like a hole full day of drinking before guns start.

yeah i knew all the black and white footage was donny, just wanted to clarify the Giants footage...
that gig looked awesome and the band looked in fine form

I prefer arenas, but it's GNR and i'll be super excited. I've seen them at MSG and at Hammerstein, so even though i prefer arenas, in this instance i'm glad they're doing stadiums as i'll be looking forward to yet another experience and a totally different memory.

Smallest venue I've ever seen them in was Hammerstein as well. Incredible show, first night. The more I think about it, the more I'm excited about a summer stadium show though.

I saw them play an outdoor festival to 65,000 people.  Right outside Los Angeles.

If done right, this stadium tour can be a massive success.

I go for the arenas, stadiums are so big, and I was planing to follow GNR to the cities near me and see them more than one time, but if they play stadiums I will just see them once  >:(

But seeing u2 is going on their stadium tour with peas and such, I say stadiums. Go GNR!

No it's not.  It is maybe in the U.S. but I would say that Wembly has a bigger all over name then MSG

My own view is that a stadium concert for the viewer because 90% of the seats are shit.
I much prefer an arena, or smaller.

The arena?

Or the completely demolished and rebuilt stadium?

wembley arena wouldn't be that famous.

earls court on the other hand...

and as for stadiums wembley (old) was the most legendary and for some reason people think the new one should automaticly be put on the same level.

I prefer smaller, so arena out of the two as a preference (for view and sound generally).  am quite small so stadium gigs can be difficult to see when you're down in the pit!  Saw U2 when I was 16 at a stadium and only saw the top of the stage set for the first few songs!  after getting thrown from one side of the pitch to the other by the glasgow massive fora  few more songs, I retreated right back so I could see from a distance.  Rolling Stones I saw at Twickenham - that was cool with big screens and they had an extending mini stage which crossed the entire length of the pitch for a few songs which was really good for us opposite the stage and far away.
but for GnR - I'll see them anywhere - any size venue. and I will suffer in heels - coz I will be heading down the front  :beer:    Would love to see them at MSG, heard so much about many legendary gigs there.

I was looking forward to a small venue tour. I would go to PNC Arts Center or Prudential Center, but there isn't a single band in the world that would get me in a stadium again. If GNR can get LED LEP to tour with them we can talk stadium.

I don't care if it's a high school auditorium, an abandoned warehouse, an empty coal mine...it's Guns N' Fuckin' Roses!
See ya'll there.  :peace:

 but I read the opening post.

My bad.  I guess I'm not allowed to post here because both options sound equally amazing!  Plus, an empty coal mine would be scary...Axl hitting some piercing high notes might cause a collapse.  Not cool. 

Oh the media would be all over Axl for that one!

They'd probably try him for murder:
"Your honor, the defendant was clearly heard telling his audience "You're gonna DIIIIIIIIE!!!!!"

every type of concert locations have its on charm..

The biggest crowd i have been in, was around 150 000 in Oslo sentrum. There was lots of artists playing.. Turbonegro, and other Norwegian artists.. I have never been to a stadium concert, but i saw Black Sabbath in Roskilde som years ago. i think there were about 70 000 people. I also saw GNR at Roskilde in 2006, and i belive there was about 70 000 people there also.

GnR in Oslo spectrum is the best concert i have ever seen! Sold Out, with about 8500 people! But i look very much forward to see GnR on a stadium!  :beer:

"another legend is made."

Arena's.  I typically avoid stadium concerts and haven't been to one since Pink Floyd or  the Guns N' Roses and Metallica tour.  I think the sound quality sucks and it feels like you are sitting a million miles away. 

-Larry

Arenas all the way. Better set-up, better sound, better atmosphere, still a big crowd.

I'd rather never see a stadium gig, although I'll go if that's the only way to see a band.