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Title: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Sin Cut on January 14, 2009, 03:49:59 AM
I was on an another forum where a 30-year old woman went on about how she's seen and know life and gave and example, or pinnacle, about when she was 14 and got caught with a bunch of guys for spray painting.

I personally think she's somewhat retard, especially when she went on how she got six band and quit two of them, 'cos some band members wanted to be more than friends.

First, I'd stick with one band and do things right. And if she got six, well I find it hard to believe she does any real work and is a parasite to the system.


1. So boys and girs, how do you define life experience?
I tend to respect people who I know have had a rough time that they didn't bring on themselves and still carried off.

Also I don't think that people that's done a lot of bad shit have that much life experience, for an example drug users, sure they've prolly seen a lot but if they haven't learned from it it's gone to waste. Then again a drug addict, who stopped using drugs and got his/her life back on tracks sure can have some interesting things to say.

That is, if they don't boast about it all the time.

Let's sum it up, in my book life experience come to working for a goal and achieving it.

2. What about purpose of life? To enjoy life as much as you can or is it to have a family? Or is it something else?


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: polluxlm on January 14, 2009, 04:51:02 AM
The gods envy us, because we're mortal.

When you stop dreaming, it's time to die.

It can end any day, and that's the whole point. No risk, no reward. There is no diploma for death, so why not enjoy it while you can? Pleasure lies in the unknown.


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: norway on January 14, 2009, 08:12:37 AM
1. So boys and girs, how do you define life experience?

Depends on whats experienced :P

I always listened to what old people has to say, they got the experience...somewhat.


 
for an example drug users,

Lets not even waste time discussing drug users. :-X

2. What about purpose of life? To enjoy life as much as you can or is it to have a family? Or is it something else?

To improve the human race. :)

I believe in the nordic ideals + lots of the pagan values and ideas.
To make the people as blonde, fair, intelligent, moral, good, honorful, strong, healthy, fit, beautiful etc as possible.

Eventually, by Darwins theory, we can create a new superhuman, godlike race. :peace:

Apart from that, enjoy life and try live in harmony with nature, yourself and those around.
Don't get children unless you are superior. : ok:

And no, I don't belive in that 30's fascist ideology made for sheeplings :hihi:


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: polluxlm on January 14, 2009, 08:40:37 AM
Nordic ideals? I think a certain Austrian put a stop to that back in the 30's. Nowadays we're pretty much Americans with an accent. Potato chips, Svenska Gladiatorana and government handouts, we're lovin' it!

You're right about the superhuman race though, but unless your name is Bull-Thorne or Friele you're not going to be a part of it. The way we're stuffing ourselves with hormones, artificial fat and aluminum waste we're more likely to become a sub-race.


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: norway on January 14, 2009, 08:49:54 AM
I think a certain Austrian put a stop to that back in the 30's.

Now we'll see about that.
We're seing laws made to protect animals (which nazis did first in Europe) and smoke-laws so he shouldn't stop all that.

Be strong children of the winter! :peace:


Svenska Gladiatorana

Get your drift :hihi:

Some of the chicks could have been candidates as Freyja-priestesses tho. :-*


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 14, 2009, 08:57:30 AM
I honestly think God has a plan for each and everyone of us and the way i think he probobly trys to tell us is through our dreams but hell thats just what i think


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: axlrosegnr on January 14, 2009, 11:04:47 AM
I'll just answer the second one.

Just enjoy yourself. Enjoy the short time you have on this planet. Simple as that. Have fun.


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: y2marmar on January 14, 2009, 04:19:48 PM
I honestly think God has a plan for each and everyone of us and the way i think he probobly trys to tell us is through our dreams but hell thats just what i think

I second this. I might not be the most religious person here, but I am a firm believer in the power of dreams.


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 14, 2009, 07:51:55 PM
Be kind.  Find love.  Work hard.  Be happy realizing you won't always be.
 :peace:


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 14, 2009, 09:01:10 PM
I honestly think God has a plan for each and everyone of us and the way i think he probobly trys to tell us is through our dreams but hell thats just what i think

I second this. I might not be the most religious person here, but I am a firm believer in the power of dreams.
im not religious either but i do believe in god and im catholic somewhat


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: western_chaos on January 14, 2009, 11:22:02 PM
I try to define life in positive terms, as every experience should help you learn and it becomes a building block for your character.

The meaning of life, is basically up to us. And, it's different for every person. There is no set meaning of life.


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: JMack on January 14, 2009, 11:33:46 PM
Yeah and all that but don't hate women because you can't get the perfect 10 either!  Start at where you are and work up and see how your thinking changes!  Blah!


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: lynn1961 on January 15, 2009, 12:43:16 AM
Defining life experience:  When I've looked around me, it's the people who have been through hard times, whether it's financial, divorce, major illness, etc. who seem to be the most down-to-earth, wisest, nonjudgmental.  I've seen other people whose lives, for whatever reason, have gone exactly the way they've planned it.  They tend to put themselves above others, in a way.  They can be sort of shallow.  So, I think life experience is gained when you actually go through some major traumas in life and then grow and learn from them.  You become a better person for it, I think.  Builds character, you know?  Or I suppose you could become bitter.  That's not life experience.  It's going through shit, learning from it, and becoming a better person for it.   


Purpose of life.  That's an individual thing.  Everyone has their own purpose of and for life.  I guess, IMO,  the purpose of life would be to make this world a better place, whether it's in a huge way or in a small way.  I think everyone has a reason for being here and existing.  But, are you just going to live your life and solely make things better for yourself all the time?  Or are you going to contribute something of yourself to the world around you? 

That's my answer to your questions.  Good questions, BTW.   


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on January 15, 2009, 02:34:20 AM
Having an open mind.

People who are the same day in and day out are boring.  They are doing nothing to improve their lives.

We must change in order to grow.  As we grow as human beings, we have a better quality of life.  And most of the time, you can be a positive influence around other people.

That goes back to norway's line about improving the human race.  Don't even bother living unless you can help someone, or guide someone through life.  That's a selfish way of conducting business.



Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: cjmax02 on January 15, 2009, 09:22:46 PM


1. So boys and girls, how do you define life experience?

Having highs and lows in your life that you can appreciate for what they are and what you learned from it.

2. What about purpose of life? To enjoy life as much as you can or is it to have a family? Or is it something else?

To take in everything that you see and be thankful for it.  And make more bebehs!



Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Lisa on January 16, 2009, 04:52:44 PM
Defining life experience:  When I've looked around me, it's the people who have been through hard times, whether it's financial, divorce, major illness, etc. who seem to be the most down-to-earth, wisest, nonjudgmental.  I've seen other people whose lives, for whatever reason, have gone exactly the way they've planned it.  They tend to put themselves above others, in a way.  They can be sort of shallow.  So, I think life experience is gained when you actually go through some major traumas in life and then grow and learn from them.  You become a better person for it, I think.  Builds character, you know?  Or I suppose you could become bitter.  That's not life experience.  It's going through shit, learning from it, and becoming a better person for it.   


Purpose of life.  That's an individual thing.  Everyone has their own purpose of and for life.  I guess, IMO,  the purpose of life would be to make this world a better place, whether it's in a huge way or in a small way.  I think everyone has a reason for being here and existing.  But, are you just going to live your life and solely make things better for yourself all the time?  Or are you going to contribute something of yourself to the world around you? 

That's my answer to your questions.  Good questions, BTW.   
I couldn't have said it better. You are so wise Lynn :-*


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: y2marmar on January 16, 2009, 07:54:17 PM
Defining life experience:  When I've looked around me, it's the people who have been through hard times, whether it's financial, divorce, major illness, etc. who seem to be the most down-to-earth, wisest, nonjudgmental.  I've seen other people whose lives, for whatever reason, have gone exactly the way they've planned it.  They tend to put themselves above others, in a way.  They can be sort of shallow.  So, I think life experience is gained when you actually go through some major traumas in life and then grow and learn from them.  You become a better person for it, I think.  Builds character, you know?  Or I suppose you could become bitter.  That's not life experience.  It's going through shit, learning from it, and becoming a better person for it.   


Purpose of life.  That's an individual thing.  Everyone has their own purpose of and for life.  I guess, IMO,  the purpose of life would be to make this world a better place, whether it's in a huge way or in a small way.  I think everyone has a reason for being here and existing.  But, are you just going to live your life and solely make things better for yourself all the time?  Or are you going to contribute something of yourself to the world around you? 

That's my answer to your questions.  Good questions, BTW.   

I think thats a brilliant answer. It really makes a lot of sense.


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Jim on January 16, 2009, 08:02:58 PM
Defining life experience:  When I've looked around me, it's the people who have been through hard times, whether it's financial, divorce, major illness, etc. who seem to be the most down-to-earth, wisest, nonjudgmental.  I've seen other people whose lives, for whatever reason, have gone exactly the way they've planned it.  They tend to put themselves above others, in a way.  They can be sort of shallow.  So, I think life experience is gained when you actually go through some major traumas in life and then grow and learn from them.  You become a better person for it, I think.  Builds character, you know?  Or I suppose you could become bitter.  That's not life experience.  It's going through shit, learning from it, and becoming a better person for it.   

If you are going universalize it like that, do you mean that (relative to the extent in which you are universalizing it) the latter group are not entirely responsible for their actions, or rather, how it is that they live their life? Circumstance becomes everything!, and you must surely see what I mean because, well, if trauma creates a better person then it ain't the fault of the untraumatized for the life in which they find themselves living.

I'm not being critical of the view point. There is much more substance to it than a lot of the crap that you would normally find in threads like this. But I am curious as to whether or not that is what you meant?


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: lynn1961 on January 17, 2009, 02:07:30 AM
Defining life experience:  When I've looked around me, it's the people who have been through hard times, whether it's financial, divorce, major illness, etc. who seem to be the most down-to-earth, wisest, nonjudgmental.  I've seen other people whose lives, for whatever reason, have gone exactly the way they've planned it.  They tend to put themselves above others, in a way.  They can be sort of shallow.  So, I think life experience is gained when you actually go through some major traumas in life and then grow and learn from them.  You become a better person for it, I think.  Builds character, you know?  Or I suppose you could become bitter.  That's not life experience.  It's going through shit, learning from it, and becoming a better person for it.   

If you are going universalize it like that, do you mean that (relative to the extent in which you are universalizing it) the latter group are not entirely responsible for their actions, or rather, how it is that they live their life? Circumstance becomes everything!, and you must surely see what I mean because, well, if trauma creates a better person then it ain't the fault of the untraumatized for the life in which they find themselves living.

I'm not being critical of the view point. There is much more substance to it than a lot of the crap that you would normally find in threads like this. But I am curious as to whether or not that is what you meant?

I guess, all I'm saying is that I have known people in my life who have, kind of, planned their lives out....and everything falls into place pretty much exactly as they planned.   I'm talking about people who are in their 40's by now.  I'm not saying that people don't struggle to get where they are in life, in some way, and that they don't have their own personal struggles in their own personal life that no one knows about.  Maybe I'm trivializing it, but it seems like some people I know just... you know....boom, boom, boom... everything just falls into place exactly like they planned it.  I don't know why that happens.   I'm just saying that when I see people like that, they really do tend to come across as thinking they are "better" than others.  It takes human struggles to make one understand where others are coming from.

Of course, that latter group is responsible for their own actions. We all are.  No, it's not their fault if they don't go through some of the shit that others do.  Shit happens to people and I don't know why - sometimes shit just happens and other times one creates their own shithole. 

I think I understand what you are saying though....that if "trauma creates a better person then it ain't the fault of the untraumatized fo0r the life in which they find themselves living".  True. Very good point. 

I guess I'm just saying that it's easier, for some,  to judge others when one hasn't been through certain things.  I'm sure there are people out there who have great character who are able to just put themselves in another person's shoes.   But it's so easy to judge other people for something when you haven't been through it yourself.  I've been there and done that.  I think it's karma.   For me anyway.  I used to be kind of "prissy".   I admit.  Whatever I have been that way about has come back to bite me in the ass, big time.   Had to turn around and think again and realize what I was thinking was wrong.  I'm thankful for that, though.

Anyway, enough.....     


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 23, 2009, 01:48:10 PM
Defining life experience:  When I've looked around me, it's the people who have been through hard times, whether it's financial, divorce, major illness, etc. who seem to be the most down-to-earth, wisest, nonjudgmental.  I've seen other people whose lives, for whatever reason, have gone exactly the way they've planned it.  They tend to put themselves above others, in a way.  They can be sort of shallow.  So, I think life experience is gained when you actually go through some major traumas in life and then grow and learn from them.  You become a better person for it, I think.  Builds character, you know?  Or I suppose you could become bitter.  That's not life experience.  It's going through shit, learning from it, and becoming a better person for it.   

If you are going universalize it like that, do you mean that (relative to the extent in which you are universalizing it) the latter group are not entirely responsible for their actions, or rather, how it is that they live their life? Circumstance becomes everything!, and you must surely see what I mean because, well, if trauma creates a better person then it ain't the fault of the untraumatized for the life in which they find themselves living.

I'm not being critical of the view point. There is much more substance to it than a lot of the crap that you would normally find in threads like this. But I am curious as to whether or not that is what you meant?

I guess, all I'm saying is that I have known people in my life who have, kind of, planned their lives out....and everything falls into place pretty much exactly as they planned.   I'm talking about people who are in their 40's by now.  I'm not saying that people don't struggle to get where they are in life, in some way, and that they don't have their own personal struggles in their own personal life that no one knows about.  Maybe I'm trivializing it, but it seems like some people I know just... you know....boom, boom, boom... everything just falls into place exactly like they planned it.  I don't know why that happens.   I'm just saying that when I see people like that, they really do tend to come across as thinking they are "better" than others.  It takes human struggles to make one understand where others are coming from.

Of course, that latter group is responsible for their own actions. We all are.  No, it's not their fault if they don't go through some of the shit that others do.  Shit happens to people and I don't know why - sometimes shit just happens and other times one creates their own shithole. 

I think I understand what you are saying though....that if "trauma creates a better person then it ain't the fault of the untraumatized fo0r the life in which they find themselves living".  True. Very good point. 

I guess I'm just saying that it's easier, for some,  to judge others when one hasn't been through certain things.  I'm sure there are people out there who have great character who are able to just put themselves in another person's shoes.   But it's so easy to judge other people for something when you haven't been through it yourself.  I've been there and done that.  I think it's karma.   For me anyway.  I used to be kind of "prissy".   I admit.  Whatever I have been that way about has come back to bite me in the ass, big time.   Had to turn around and think again and realize what I was thinking was wrong.  I'm thankful for that, though.

Anyway, enough.....     
same kind of shit always happened to me to when i was younger i guess its just life's way of tellin us that hay your gona pay big for that fuck up


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Jim on January 23, 2009, 02:27:28 PM
I think I understand what you are saying though....that if "trauma creates a better person then it ain't the fault of the untraumatized for the life in which they find themselves living".  True. Very good point. 

It is. But I shouldn't claim it as my own. Because it's not.

Anyway, enough.....     

Never!

Maybe I'm trivializing it, but it seems like some people I know just... you know....boom, boom, boom... everything just falls into place exactly like they planned it.  I don't know why that happens.   I'm just saying that when I see people like that, they really do tend to come across as thinking they are "better" than others. 

You're not trivializing it. At least not with regards to yourself. That is all that you see so, of course, that is all that you have to go on. A question that I struggle with when condeming those sorts of people (the bastards!), which I do frequently, is how I would act were I in their position, with no prior knowledge of the position that I am in now... Firstly, we won't ever know, but secondly I'm not all too sure that I want to... In doing that, in our own way, we are creating for ourselves the moral high ground. Which we can't say is all that much better...

Of course, that latter group is responsible for their own actions. We all are.  No, it's not their fault if they don't go through some of the shit that others do.  Shit happens to people and I don't know why - sometimes shit just happens and other times one creates their own shithole. 

Oh, we are. Responsible, that is. No doubt. But not as much as general thinking would have you believe. Not as far as I can see, anyway. That isn't to say that we should not hold people accountable regardless... Because we will. It's in our nature, and damn me if I haven't tried to get past it!, but I can't. Hate the action, not the person and all that. But what are we if not a summation of our actions? What we are and what we do are different things, but the former is irrelevant. We are and will forever be the latter until we appreciate just how damn similar we are, all be it on different paths, and, hey, that's not going to happen in our life times.

I guess I'm just saying that it's easier, for some,  to judge others when one hasn't been through certain things.  I'm sure there are people out there who have great character who are able to just put themselves in another person's shoes.   But it's so easy to judge other people for something when you haven't been through it yourself.

Well, there you go. For the most part they can't, and won't, understand. So. Back to the point before. Can we blame them?

Well, even if we can't, that doesn't mean that we let them off. The bastards! It's the ideal that we hate, whether we realise it or not, and since that manifests itself through that smug cunt, don't you worry, I hate him as much as you do !!

same kind of shit always happened to me to when i was younger i guess its just life's way of tellin us that hay your gona pay big for that fuck up

Nope. It's just lifes way of telling you that it's a bastard!


Title: Re: Life experience and the purpose of life
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 23, 2009, 03:59:06 PM
Yeah i didnt say this lynn1961 said it

I guess I'm just saying that it's easier, for some,  to judge others when one hasn't been through certain things.  I'm sure there are people out there who have great character who are able to just put themselves in another person's shoes.   But it's so easy to judge other people for something when you haven't been through it yourself.


I said this though


same kind of shit always happened to me to when i was younger i guess its just life's way of tellin us that hay your gona pay big for that fuck up