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Title: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: falungong69 on January 12, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
okay, i am not ashamed to admit it:  this album has totally made me cry!  sometimes i get a little teary eyes.  but every now and then i'll full on weep.  it's just so bursting with emotions and complexity.  sometimes i just get bowled over at how amazingly axl poured his soul into this music.  he just bares it all and it's geninuely touching.

so how many other people are willing to man up and admit that they cry at the album?  which parts get you the most?

i'll go first...

catcher in the rye....  from the 2:00-2:13 mark when the marching drums come in with the strings.  whoa.  i can totally imagine john lennon leading a march of decesaed souls into heaven.  truly visionary.

street of dreams... the lyric 'what i thought was beautiful don't live inside of you anymore!'  that one is very personal, but it reminds me of a girlfriend that i had once and a choice she made that i did not support and how it eventually drove us apart.  things were never the same after she ruined all that we had.

this i love... basically the entire song form start to finish.  but especially the guitar solo.  it's honestly one of the greatest guitar solos of all time and when i hear it, i can just imagine axl's heart breaking.  it's amazing how there is a symphony playing behind the guitar solo and they combine to make something even more powerful and special than regular classical music.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: SkeletorSerpent on January 12, 2009, 10:58:24 PM
I was just being a smart ass; I love the album and really don't give a shit about sales or commercial success.  What made me fall in love with Axl and Gnr in the first place was how they were so anti-commercial yet managed to be such a smash commercial success from 88 - 93. It was like the sleazy burn out kid who is a genius but hides out in his van at high school skipping class, nipping whiskey and listening to old Iron Maiden tapes and then somehow becomes the homecoming king and gets the spot light on him for a weekend. In the analogical metaphor, 87-92/93 was that era when Gnr owned the world.

Seriously, my wife gets mad at me because I go off into our car and listen to the cd almost every night (better speakers, solitude, and dark) and close my eyes and just process and digest the album. For example, tonight I just realized that during the chorus of There was a Time, Axl dubs in a deep harmony behind his lead vocals. I just keep finding more and more hidden treasures on this album.

1. I cry during all of Catcher in the Rye (the song made me feel like a 16 year old kid again, smoking pot and drinking whiskey in the back of a van at a party; it has a real nostalgic, old-school Gnr feel to it. It makes rock n roll seem fresh again, and I feel like a kid when I hear it)
2. I cry during the "I just can't let it die, her hearts just like mine" and " I searched the universe" parts of "This I Love"
3. All of Madagascar and Street of Dreams because they are so awesome and it feels good to hear a confident Axl
4. Better when it comes on the radio (it feels good to hear Axl back on mainstream rock radio)
5. "Use and confuse them, they're numb and naive" Sorry


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: estebanf on January 12, 2009, 11:10:19 PM
The following part of This I Love made me cry after several listenings:

''confessions to a crime, of passions that won't die... in my hea [extended ''a''] rt''

How can a human being write that kind of masterpiece on his own?

All I know is I can knock tyson out if I'm listening to Bumblefoot's solo ar Riad  :peace:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Buddha_Master on January 13, 2009, 02:04:48 AM
I guess the part when the clock hit 10:a.m. and Best Buy opened that amazing day, and definitely the part when I held the album, my precious, in my hands for the first time.




Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on January 13, 2009, 02:17:52 AM
I guess I haven't had many bad things happen to me in life that would aid a GN'R songs' efforts to bring me to my knees and weep uncontrollably.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Naltav on January 13, 2009, 02:21:33 AM
Haven't exactly cried yet.... But I came close on This I Love and Prostitute.

Axl wears his heart on his sleeve on those! Words aren't invented to sum it up... Pure genius!   : ok:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: SLCPUNK on January 13, 2009, 02:24:01 AM
I guess the part when the clock hit 10:a.m. and Best Buy opened that amazing day, and definitely the part when I held the album, my precious, in my hands for the first time.




Now that's some funny shit.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on January 13, 2009, 02:30:15 AM
I guess the part when the clock hit 10:a.m. and Best Buy opened that amazing day, and definitely the part when I held the album, my precious, in my hands for the first time.




Now that's some funny shit.

Ya, Best Buy opened at 9:00.

The murder trial is back on.  :o


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Chief on January 13, 2009, 02:44:46 AM
oh come on, I'm pretty sure you cried when you heard that intro part of Scraped!


I guess I haven't had many bad things happen to me in life that would aid a GN'R songs' efforts to bring me to my knees and weep uncontrollably.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: GNR4L on January 13, 2009, 04:10:21 AM
I haven't cried, but listening to This I Love and Prositute, Catcher in The rye have made been kinda of sad in a way.  Just songs that I can relate to in life, and girl's i've liked.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: willow on January 13, 2009, 05:46:37 AM
I don't consider an album great unless at least one track doesn't push me to tears! Maddie has made me cry sense the first time I heard it watching the Rock in Rio bootleg. Its very personal to me. And This I Love gets me going almost everytime.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Batuta on January 13, 2009, 07:33:33 AM
This i Love.

Shoked me on the first time i heard.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: falungong69 on January 13, 2009, 09:25:23 AM
maddy gets me teary eyed sometimes because i think it's amazing that with all the people who have tried to tear down axl's soul and ruin his life, he proves he's the bigger man by not stooping to their level.  instead, he asks god to forgive their souls.  any christians will recognize this as the same thing that jesus christ did when he was crucified.  'forgive them father, for they know not what they do,' is what he said.  axl says pretty much the same thing.  when you think about all the suffering that people endure to follow there life's journey, whether it's axl or jesus or anyone else, and STILL maintain there humility and selflessness,  it is really inspiring.   

so while this i love or the blues might make me cry because i'm sad, madagascar makes me cry in a different way.... because it gives me hope and optimism.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: XxWickeds10xX on January 13, 2009, 09:29:17 AM
Wow, you are some emotional people.

I havent even come close to crying from anything on the album, but then again I dont have much to cry about there days anyway :) Lighten up people!


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: LIGuns on January 13, 2009, 09:36:01 AM
I love this album, but I "Don't Cry"!!


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on January 13, 2009, 09:45:50 AM
Maybe I'm cynical (or emotionless) but no music has ever made me cry. It just doesn't have that effect with me.



Unless it's really bad I suppose.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: falungong69 on January 13, 2009, 09:52:58 AM
i'm sorry, but if you've never shed a single tear to this i love, then you have no heart!

why do people think it's so bad to cry?  it doesn't make you less of a man.  i've only cried a few times in my life, like when my dog and my grandmother died.  but this album does it consistantly.  in many ways axl has helped me to get in touch with my emotional side by showing me how he did it himself.  i only wish i was able to write a beautiful love song that expressed my feelings about things too.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: ppbebe on January 13, 2009, 05:54:01 PM
none. Cd has many electric moments where I wowed, smiled before i knew it, jumped and danced up and down, wore goose flesh and everything but tears.

not as a part of cd but IRS (before cd) did make me cry. I will ever be accompanied by this tune when working against time.




Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: duga on January 14, 2009, 04:32:13 AM
Almost cry when I hear the guitar in the right speaker in Prostitute at 1.41 - 1.43  :love:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: mcmurray on January 14, 2009, 04:52:46 AM
Sorry solo first time I heard it.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Aussie_Axe on January 14, 2009, 08:01:29 AM
okay, i am not ashamed to admit it:  this album has totally made me cry!  sometimes i get a little teary eyes.  but every now and then i'll full on weep.  it's just so bursting with emotions and complexity.  sometimes i just get bowled over at how amazingly axl poured his soul into this music.  he just bares it all and it's geninuely touching.

so how many other people are willing to man up and admit that they cry at the album?  which parts get you the most?

i'll go first...

catcher in the rye....  from the 2:00-2:13 mark when the marching drums come in with the strings.  whoa.  i can totally imagine john lennon leading a march of decesaed souls into heaven.  truly visionary.

street of dreams... the lyric 'what i thought was beautiful don't live inside of you anymore!'  that one is very personal, but it reminds me of a girlfriend that i had once and a choice she made that i did not support and how it eventually drove us apart.  things were never the same after she ruined all that we had.

this i love... basically the entire song form start to finish.  but especially the guitar solo.  it's honestly one of the greatest guitar solos of all time and when i hear it, i can just imagine axl's heart breaking.  it's amazing how there is a symphony playing behind the guitar solo and they combine to make something even more powerful and special than regular classical music.

i almost cried when i found out Prostitute wasn't about Prostitutes.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: -Rob- on January 14, 2009, 08:26:28 AM
great thread. it's amazing just how much of an emotional impact this album has had over so many folks. i made a post yesterday in the 'this i love' topic where i shared a personal experience my gf and i recently had while listening to the song.
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=54381.460 (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=54381.460)

that's the only song on the album that has really made me break down and cry. for safety reasons, i've learned to skip over this song while driving because of how emotional i become when i hear it. now, i only listen to it in the privacy of my apt or when i'm with Mona (my gf).

i have teared up at times while listening to the end of 'prostitute'. not nearly to the extreme of 'this i love', but it is one of the most emotional & beautiful climaxes to ever end an album. i could be way off, but for some reason the ending of that track makes me think it is axl's final offering to stephanie. he's trying to express, despite the anguish and betrayal i've felt with you, i'm now at peace & things are ok now. like i said, it's just my take on it and i could be way off. nonetheless, it is an amazingly beautiful song & and another one that i will always hold close to my heart.




Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Silverchair on January 14, 2009, 08:32:30 AM
The album's good... but not that good. Haven't shed a tear or lost sleep. It's just an album.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on January 14, 2009, 08:34:34 AM
The 1st time I heard the chorus to This I Love. I felt very gay.  :hihi:

Seriously, the song really got to me the 1st 6 or 7 times I heard it. It did bring a tear to my eye.


 :peace:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: twink on January 14, 2009, 08:36:19 AM
its just music man why cry about it fucking enjoy it


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: DuffRock on January 14, 2009, 08:39:34 AM
I've shed a tear listening to Street of Dreams, but that's because it really sums up the feelings I've felt after being dumped last month after 2.5 years of what I thought was a happy relationship.  These lines encapsulate the way that my ex just wasn't all I thought she was and, although I didn't end things, I can now see that I'm better off without her.

Though it's what you planned, this much is true
What I thought was beautiful, don't live inside of you anymore


In fact most of the ballads speak to me at this time and if CD had the songwriting ability of Slash and Izzy for the rockers then this album would be amazing as opposed to very good imo.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: twink on January 14, 2009, 08:42:03 AM
I've shed a tear listening to Street of Dreams, but that's because it really sums up the feelings I've felt after being dumped last month after 2.5 years of what I thought was a happy relationship.  These lines encapsulate the way that my ex just wasn't all I thought she was and, although I didn't end things, I can now see that I'm better off without her.

Though it's what you planned, this much is true
What I thought was beautiful, don't live inside of you anymore


In fact most of the ballads speak to me at this time and if CD had the songwriting ability of Slash and Izzy for the rockers then this album would be amazing as opposed to very good imo.



cant beat the chemistry those guys had eh? even some ballads patience springs to mind


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on January 14, 2009, 08:43:38 AM
its just music man why cry about it fucking enjoy it

Is it possible to enjoy something that much it makes you emotional?


 :peace:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: twink on January 14, 2009, 08:48:57 AM
its just music man why cry about it fucking enjoy it

Is it possible to enjoy something that much it makes you emotional?


 :peace:

not the emotional type unless someones dies and the kid that starteed this thread is borderline stalkerish so im more laughing than crying at this point  i think estranged is more emotional than anything on cd except this i love which comes close, would even surpass estranged if it was a really raw version just axl and the ivories


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 14, 2009, 09:00:34 AM
1.Street of Dreams
2.This I Love
3.Sorry

i mean each one of these are vary crazy good and it just got to me


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: duga on January 14, 2009, 09:03:00 AM
The album's good... but not that good. Haven't shed a tear or lost sleep. It's just an album.

Try listen through headphones. It's like a different record.  : ok:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: -Rob- on January 14, 2009, 09:05:41 AM

In fact most of the ballads speak to me at this time and if CD had the songwriting ability of Slash and Izzy for the rockers then this album would be amazing as opposed to very good imo.

 ::)
here we go. more negativity spread by those who refuse to accept this is 2009. chinese d is an absolutely amazing album! by far - above and beyond anything from the past catalogue. i can honestly say that it drastically exceeded any and all expectations that i had. and yes, that's without izzy and that ex-asshole in a tophat being present. shackler's revenge, rhiad, & better are rip your head off rockers. they will be remembered as anthems of a generation 20 yrs from now.

i cant believe the nerve some people have. the asshole in a tophat was never a major songwriter for the band. and he certainly couldnt have taken this band to the level axl has.  bbf, finck, and bucket were the perfect team to help axl follow through with his vision. i really wish people would stop with all this ridiculous hate and see this album for the masterpiece that it truly is.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 14, 2009, 09:06:27 AM
Yea if u havent heard it with headphones your not getting the full experence


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: DuffRock on January 14, 2009, 09:10:14 AM

In fact most of the ballads speak to me at this time and if CD had the songwriting ability of Slash and Izzy for the rockers then this album would be amazing as opposed to very good imo.

 ::)
here we go. more negativity spread by those who refuse to accept this is 2009. chinese d is an absolutely amazing album! by far - above and beyond anything from the past catalogue. i can honestly say that it drastically exceeded any and all expectations that i had. and yes, that's without izzy and that ex-asshole in a tophat being present. shackler's revenge, rhiad, & better are rip your head off rockers. they will be remembered as anthems of a generation 20 yrs from now.

i cant believe the nerve some people have. the asshole in a tophat was never a major songwriter for the band. and he certainly couldnt have taken this band to the level axl has.  bbf, finck, and bucket were the perfect team to help axl follow through with his vision. i really wish people would stop with all this ridiculous hate and see this album for the masterpiece that it truly is.

wtf?!  I said the album is very good!  I just don't like any of the rockers on it.  There's a difference between "refusing to accept this is 2009" and stating that Axl doesn't seem to have the ability to write balls-to-the-wall rock.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 14, 2009, 09:11:57 AM
DuffRock dose have a point u realy dont have to like the new gunners to love CD


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: DuffRock on January 14, 2009, 09:18:12 AM
DuffRock dose have a point u realy dont have to like the new gunners to love CD


Thing is I do like the new gunners, but I can't see anyone taking the lead when writing the kind of rock songs you need, imo, to complete a record like CD.  For example, Finck has his own vibe which obviously works extremely well on songs like Better, but he doesn't seem to be able to write heavy blues/punk infused rock and that's what I wanted to accompany the beautiful ballads on CD.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: twink on January 14, 2009, 09:25:14 AM

In fact most of the ballads speak to me at this time and if CD had the songwriting ability of Slash and Izzy for the rockers then this album would be amazing as opposed to very good imo.

 ::)
here we go. more negativity spread by those who refuse to accept this is 2009. chinese d is an absolutely amazing album! by far - above and beyond anything from the past catalogue. i can honestly say that it drastically exceeded any and all expectations that i had. and yes, that's without izzy and that ex-asshole in a tophat being present. shackler's revenge, rhiad, & better are rip your head off rockers. they will be remembered as anthems of a generation 20 yrs from now.





dear god another one listen to my i love guns n roses past present and future whats not to accept do you know slash or something?  were you there when the songs were written, its his riffs that are always up there in the gretest rock songs charts time will tell if cd songs have the same kind of impact crawl out your own ass man think you love the smell of your own shit a little too much

i cant believe the nerve some people have. the asshole in a tophat was never a major songwriter for the band. and he certainly couldnt have taken this band to the level axl has.  bbf, finck, and bucket were the perfect team to help axl follow through with his vision. i really wish people would stop with all this ridiculous hate and see this album for the masterpiece that it truly is.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Albert S Miller on January 14, 2009, 09:34:30 AM
I guess the part when the clock hit 10:a.m. and Best Buy opened that amazing day, and definitely the part when I held the album, my precious, in my hands for the first time.



My feelings exactly : ok:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Silverchair on January 14, 2009, 11:15:24 AM
my post was deleted because????

oh... I insulted someone!!! oh wait... i didn't.

or maybe I posted a link to a leak??? oh wait... i didn't.

is it me or is anyone sick of posts being deleted for no fucking reason.

i'm sorry I haven't cried... I was answering the question... as in NO PARTS have made me cry.

welcome to tyranny today, gone to hell.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: jarmo on January 14, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
my post was deleted because????

It was off topic.

If your idea of "on topic" posting is whining about how this place is run in every other thread in the GN'R section, you need to check your head.


Here's a quote from our posting guidelines:

Quote
Attention seekers don't bother posting here.
If you're only here to start fights and post negative posts about the current band, you will get banned sooner or later.
Please don't respond to trolls. Instead just report the post in question to a moderator and it will get dealt with as soon as possible.

Also, if you're only here to remind us all of how much this place sucks and have some kind of personal issue behind your opinion, please stay out. You won't feel welcome here with that kind of attitude.


 : ok:





/jarmo


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: gilld1 on January 14, 2009, 12:00:28 PM
This I Love made me cry like a school girl because I never thought Axl would put something out that was this bad.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: jarmo on January 14, 2009, 12:03:34 PM
This I Love made me cry like a school girl because I never thought Axl would put something out that was this bad.

I hope that didn't ruin your make up!





/jarmo


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: gilld1 on January 14, 2009, 12:20:59 PM
This I Love made me cry like a school girl because I never thought Axl would put something out that was this bad.

I hope that didn't ruin your make up!


It did run into my eyes a bit but I toughed it out.  I now where water proof guyliner so when I hear Axl's emo song I won't have the same issues again. :crying:



/jarmo


Dammit, your name was hiding from me!!


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: jarmo on January 14, 2009, 12:58:26 PM
Emo?

You gotta be trying to make a funny joke, but obviously failing....




/jarmo


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Limulus on January 14, 2009, 01:37:57 PM
the crappy booklet






nah......


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: chilly on January 14, 2009, 02:19:14 PM
A really good friend of mine died in 2006, motorcycle accident.

He wasn't really a gn'r fan, he was younger than me and oasis was his "first band" and he was a die hard fan, til the bitter end, anyhoot.... he came to download with us and was stunned by the gn'r performance, the walk offs the comeback, he really enjoyed the fuck you attitude axl had, after that all I got was play Better!!play better!!( the demo)
he died shortly after, everytime I hear the outro solo..I get close to tears and I wish the Lil' fucker could have heard the album.

Bittersweet as fuck.

Chilly.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: jarmo on January 14, 2009, 02:30:15 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss. :(




/jarmo


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: ppbebe on January 14, 2009, 02:31:33 PM
after that all I got was play Better!!play better!!( the demo) he died shortly after,

your post is making me cry :'(



Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: chilly on January 14, 2009, 03:27:05 PM

and the maddest thing is, that we made it on to the kerrang tv advert, he fell asleep after days on the booze and splendor and we started to cover him in grass, bit by bit, as time went on people started to join in and pretty soon, he was covered in grass and we had a crowd...a few people took photo's and a camera man filmed us, when we got home....we were on ch4.

I miss him, taddy r.i.p


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: gilld1 on January 14, 2009, 03:45:34 PM
Emo?

You gotta be trying to make a funny joke, but obviously failing....




/jarmo

I just can't listen to TIL.  Way too Broadway/emo for me.  I know it is not as emo as Fall Out Boy but it is as close as Axl has ever come to being a total pussy.

Why are you so harsh all the time?  Jaded?


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: DarkFairy on January 14, 2009, 04:19:48 PM
This I Love, repeatedly  :hihi:  :crying:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: jarmo on January 14, 2009, 04:24:44 PM
I just can't listen to TIL.  Way too Broadway/emo for me.  I know it is not as emo as Fall Out Boy but it is as close as Axl has ever come to being a total pussy.

Still don't get the emo connection.

So you say it's not as emo as an emo band, but it's still is.

It's like saying your post is insightful and then point out how it's really not.



Why are you so harsh all the time? 

First you call Axl a pussy and then you seem offended by my language. So who's the pussy?



I'm harsh? Yeah, if you're trolling threads in the GN'R section looking for attention, I might say something about it and it might offend you.




/jarmo


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Axlative on January 14, 2009, 04:35:58 PM
Back on topic...

For some strange reason the part that repeatedly makes me emotional is in Catcher when Axl sings "...and then the voices went away/For me..."

I don't know... Just a strange feeling of redemption... or somesuch. Like I just have witnessed some tormented soul smiling for the first time in ages. Being freed from his/her burden. Simply touching.

Anyway, real men don't cry....  ;)


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: gilld1 on January 14, 2009, 04:40:01 PM
I just can't listen to TIL.  Way too Broadway/emo for me.  I know it is not as emo as Fall Out Boy but it is as close as Axl has ever come to being a total pussy.

Still don't get the emo connection.

So you say it's not as emo as an emo band, but it's still is.

It's like saying your post is insightful and then point out how it's really not.



Why are you so harsh all the time? 

First you call Axl a pussy and then you seem offended by my language. So who's the pussy?



I'm harsh? Yeah, if you're trolling threads in the GN'R section looking for attention, I might say something about it and it might offend you.




/jarmo

I said he was close to being a total pussy.  I never said he was a full on pussy.

It's not bubblegum pop punk like emo but I get some of the same feel sorry for me stuff from it that emo has in it.

I never said I was offended.  I just asked a question.  I'm not looking for a fight but you seem to get pissy with everyone.

I am not trolling or seeking attention, just sharing my opinion.  Isn't that what this board is for?


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: jarmo on January 14, 2009, 04:47:31 PM
It's not bubblegum pop punk like emo but I get some of the same feel sorry for me stuff from it that emo has in it.

Would you say November Rain is emo?

Don't Cry?

How about something manly like Metallica. Nothing Else Matters, emo?



I'm not looking for a fight but you seem to get pissy with everyone.

Only the "special" people.



I am not trolling or seeking attention, just sharing my opinion.  Isn't that what this board is for?

Oh please.

Read your first post in this thread.

If you're not looking for attention, then what was that?



In addition, I don't know how singing about true feelings is considered "close to being a total pussy."

If anything, that takes more balls!

Putting something personal out there for the world to judge requires a lot more balls than to just pretend and write songs about nothing personal.


In contrast, hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet doesn't require balls at all...




/jarmo


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: y2marmar on January 14, 2009, 04:59:12 PM
I just love Catcher in the Rye, This I Love, If The World...it really doesn't take a lot to make me cry


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: volcano62 on January 14, 2009, 06:46:24 PM
i get teary eyed at random parts of Axl's signing. I think sometimes it's because i'm just so happy to hear his voice again.

it's amazing though, like someone else mentioned, each time you hear the album, new sounds are discovered.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Deb Rose on January 14, 2009, 06:54:08 PM
This I Love... all of it, but especially the guitar solo and the "I?ve searched the universe and found myself within her eyes"

Also Cather, when he sings "On an ordinary day/ not in an ordinary way..."  until the end  :-\
I really don't know why, but...

That's all... the rest just makes me happy to hear Axl's voice again ;D


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 14, 2009, 07:46:38 PM
Hey Axlative, I disagree...real men do cry.

My first tears shed upon hearing the album occurred on the drive home from Best Buy...Track 4.  God damn Street of Dreams just blew me away...the emotion of the tune got me right there.  Beautiful.

This I Love has hit me the most though.  The one fan-made vid for it had me friggin blubbering like a baby every damn time I watched it.  I couldn't even explain the theme of the movie the vid used to my bro-in-law without being stopped by the tears...

In the past, There Was a Time brought me to tears the 1st listen...fucking gorgeous.

CITR, Maddy, and Prostitute have done it at times as well.

All in all, six out of the 14 have brought me to tears...yes, I love the album.   :love:

Let me get something straight here...I don't cry with just any tune.  So Fine did nothing for me.  I dug Don't Cry, but it never brought me to tears though.   :peace:
 



Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: gilld1 on January 15, 2009, 08:27:25 AM
It's not bubblegum pop punk like emo but I get some of the same feel sorry for me stuff from it that emo has in it.

Would you say November Rain is emo?

Don't Cry?

How about something manly like Metallica. Nothing Else Matters, emo?



I'm not looking for a fight but you seem to get pissy with everyone.

Only the "special" people.



I am not trolling or seeking attention, just sharing my opinion.  Isn't that what this board is for?

Oh please.

Read your first post in this thread.

If you're not looking for attention, then what was that?



In addition, I don't know how singing about true feelings is considered "close to being a total pussy."

If anything, that takes more balls!

Putting something personal out there for the world to judge requires a lot more balls than to just pretend and write songs about nothing personal.


In contrast, hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet doesn't require balls at all...




/jarmo

OK, perhaps calling it emo was a bit harsh but the song does nothing for me.  I think it is by far the worst song Axl has ever written.  NR, DC and other GnR ballads had a different feel to them.  They still rocked in their own way. 

Thanks, I think you're special too!!

What's wrong with the first post?  I was answering the question at hand.  Just because I am a fan of the band doesn't mean I have to like every song they put out.

I have no problem with Axl singing about his true, albeit 15 years old, feelings.  I guess that is probably my biggest problem with the song.  He's spilling his heart out about a relationship that ender a decade and half ago.  That would be like me still being broken hearted about my high school love.  I just don't get it.  It's time to move on.

I am not hiding behind anything.  If you were here and we were having the same conversation I would tell you the exact same thing.  Something tells me you wouldn't have the same cocky attitude face to face.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on January 15, 2009, 08:43:02 AM
Emo?

You gotta be trying to make a funny joke, but obviously failing....




/jarmo

I just can't listen to TIL.  Way too Broadway/emo for me.  I know it is not as emo as Fall Out Boy but it is as close as Axl has ever come to being a total pussy.

Why are you so harsh all the time?  Jaded?

This I Love is far from emo. I do think you are insane for even thinking that.

How do you compare emo the Broardway?


 :peace:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Silverchair on January 15, 2009, 09:07:12 AM
Emo?

You gotta be trying to make a funny joke, but obviously failing....




/jarmo

I just can't listen to TIL.  Way too Broadway/emo for me.  I know it is not as emo as Fall Out Boy but it is as close as Axl has ever come to being a total pussy.

Why are you so harsh all the time?  Jaded?

This I Love is far from emo. I do think you are insane for even thinking that.

How do you compare emo the Broardway?


 :peace:

This I Love reminds me of the Vampire Rock Opera from "Forgetting Sarah Marshall"... kinda Broadway in a way.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: falungong69 on January 15, 2009, 09:14:16 AM
It's not bubblegum pop punk like emo but I get some of the same feel sorry for me stuff from it that emo has in it.

Would you say November Rain is emo?

Don't Cry?

How about something manly like Metallica. Nothing Else Matters, emo?



I'm not looking for a fight but you seem to get pissy with everyone.

Only the "special" people.



I am not trolling or seeking attention, just sharing my opinion.  Isn't that what this board is for?

Oh please.

Read your first post in this thread.

If you're not looking for attention, then what was that?



In addition, I don't know how singing about true feelings is considered "close to being a total pussy."

If anything, that takes more balls!

Putting something personal out there for the world to judge requires a lot more balls than to just pretend and write songs about nothing personal.


In contrast, hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet doesn't require balls at all...




/jarmo

OK, perhaps calling it emo was a bit harsh but the song does nothing for me.  I think it is by far the worst song Axl has ever written.  NR, DC and other GnR ballads had a different feel to them.  They still rocked in their own way. 

Thanks, I think you're special too!!

What's wrong with the first post?  I was answering the question at hand.  Just because I am a fan of the band doesn't mean I have to like every song they put out.

I have no problem with Axl singing about his true, albeit 15 years old, feelings.  I guess that is probably my biggest problem with the song.  He's spilling his heart out about a relationship that ender a decade and half ago.  That would be like me still being broken hearted about my high school love.  I just don't get it.  It's time to move on.

I am not hiding behind anything.  If you were here and we were having the same conversation I would tell you the exact same thing.  Something tells me you wouldn't have the same cocky attitude face to face.

1.  okay, you don't like the song.  but why waste your time posting about it over and over again in a GNR FAN FORUM where people want to support the band?  what's the point?

2.  how do you know the song is about stephanie seymour?  i thought that at first too, because in old interviews axl said he was making the new music to tell his side of the story in that releationship, especially for dylan.  since then jarmo has said that we don't officially know who these love songs are about, so what's the point in beating that dead horse again?  even axl/dexter said he wouldn't say who the songs were really about.

3.  you ARE hiding behind your computer screen.  you wouldn't dare insult these songs to axl's face and you know it.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on January 15, 2009, 09:16:24 AM
Emo?

You gotta be trying to make a funny joke, but obviously failing....




/jarmo

I just can't listen to TIL.  Way too Broadway/emo for me.  I know it is not as emo as Fall Out Boy but it is as close as Axl has ever come to being a total pussy.

Why are you so harsh all the time?  Jaded?

This I Love is far from emo. I do think you are insane for even thinking that.

How do you compare emo the Broardway?


 :peace:

This I Love reminds me of the Vampire Rock Opera from "Forgetting Sarah Marshall"... kinda Broadway in a way.

No argument there. The song is very theatrical. But I'm just wondering how one would make a comparison like emo and broardway.


 :peace:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Silverchair on January 15, 2009, 09:42:28 AM
Emo?

You gotta be trying to make a funny joke, but obviously failing....




/jarmo

I just can't listen to TIL.  Way too Broadway/emo for me.  I know it is not as emo as Fall Out Boy but it is as close as Axl has ever come to being a total pussy.

Why are you so harsh all the time?  Jaded?

This I Love is far from emo. I do think you are insane for even thinking that.

How do you compare emo the Broardway?


 :peace:

This I Love reminds me of the Vampire Rock Opera from "Forgetting Sarah Marshall"... kinda Broadway in a way.

No argument there. The song is very theatrical. But I'm just wondering how one would make a comparison like emo and broardway.


 :peace:

I totally get you.

This is my take...

Every song is emo. "Emo" just means emotional... any true artist pours their emotions into their art. Everyone from Johnny Cash to John Lennon is emo.

It's really stupid to categorize emo now because it's the "in thing" to do...


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: gilld1 on January 15, 2009, 10:23:26 AM
It's not bubblegum pop punk like emo but I get some of the same feel sorry for me stuff from it that emo has in it.

Would you say November Rain is emo?

Don't Cry?

How about something manly like Metallica. Nothing Else Matters, emo?



I'm not looking for a fight but you seem to get pissy with everyone.

Only the "special" people.



I am not trolling or seeking attention, just sharing my opinion.  Isn't that what this board is for?

Oh please.

Read your first post in this thread.

If you're not looking for attention, then what was that?



In addition, I don't know how singing about true feelings is considered "close to being a total pussy."

If anything, that takes more balls!

Putting something personal out there for the world to judge requires a lot more balls than to just pretend and write songs about nothing personal.


In contrast, hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet doesn't require balls at all...




/jarmo

OK, perhaps calling it emo was a bit harsh but the song does nothing for me.  I think it is by far the worst song Axl has ever written.  NR, DC and other GnR ballads had a different feel to them.  They still rocked in their own way. 

Thanks, I think you're special too!!

What's wrong with the first post?  I was answering the question at hand.  Just because I am a fan of the band doesn't mean I have to like every song they put out.

I have no problem with Axl singing about his true, albeit 15 years old, feelings.  I guess that is probably my biggest problem with the song.  He's spilling his heart out about a relationship that ender a decade and half ago.  That would be like me still being broken hearted about my high school love.  I just don't get it.  It's time to move on.

I am not hiding behind anything.  If you were here and we were having the same conversation I would tell you the exact same thing.  Something tells me you wouldn't have the same cocky attitude face to face.

1.  okay, you don't like the song.  but why waste your time posting about it over and over again in a GNR FAN FORUM where people want to support the band?  what's the point?

2.  how do you know the song is about stephanie seymour?  i thought that at first too, because in old interviews axl said he was making the new music to tell his side of the story in that releationship, especially for dylan.  since then jarmo has said that we don't officially know who these love songs are about, so what's the point in beating that dead horse again?  even axl/dexter said he wouldn't say who the songs were really about.

3.  you ARE hiding behind your computer screen.  you wouldn't dare insult these songs to axl's face and you know it.

1.  I am responding to comments about my comments.  I do support the band, just not blindly.

2.  From what we know the song is about Seymour or Everly.  Unless there has been some woman in recent years unknown to us.  But I think the song was written some time ago, correct?  Either way if it is about those 2 then he has been hung up on a woman for 15-20 years.  Move on.

3.  Why wouldn't I be honest with him if he asked?  Would I go up to him and ambush him and say TIL sucks?  No, but if it came up in a natural flow of conversation then I'd be honest.  I was talking more in the context of a conversation btween Jarmo and I but why pull any punches?


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: italysfinest1985 on January 15, 2009, 10:30:36 AM
Emo?

You gotta be trying to make a funny joke, but obviously failing....




/jarmo

I just can't listen to TIL.  Way too Broadway/emo for me.  I know it is not as emo as Fall Out Boy but it is as close as Axl has ever come to being a total pussy.

Why are you so harsh all the time?  Jaded?

This I Love is far from emo. I do think you are insane for even thinking that.

How do you compare emo the Broardway?


 :peace:

This I Love reminds me of the Vampire Rock Opera from "Forgetting Sarah Marshall"... kinda Broadway in a way.

No argument there. The song is very theatrical. But I'm just wondering how one would make a comparison like emo and broardway.


 :peace:

I totally get you.

This is my take...

Every song is emo. "Emo" just means emotional... any true artist pours their emotions into their art. Everyone from Johnny Cash to John Lennon is emo.

It's really stupid to categorize emo now because it's the "in thing" to do...


There is no doubt the song is emotionally charged.

But does that categorize it into the music genre of "emo"?

No. Was John Waite's "Missing You" dubbed as "emo" in the 1980s? How about "Don't Wanna Miss a Thing" by Aerosmith? Does Good Charlotte release piano ballads including minutes of guitar solos?

"Emo" is a genre of music that originated from hardcore punk and later adopted pop punk influences when it became mainstream in the United States. "This I Love" has no relevance here.

Just my two cents.



Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: jarmo on January 15, 2009, 10:34:32 AM
OK, perhaps calling it emo was a bit harsh but the song does nothing for me.  I think it is by far the worst song Axl has ever written.  NR, DC and other GnR ballads had a different feel to them.  They still rocked in their own way. 

That's your opinion.

The way you presented it (in the wrong thread too) was what caught my attention.




What's wrong with the first post?  I was answering the question at hand.

I saw a desperate attempt to score some "humor points".


  Just because I am a fan of the band doesn't mean I have to like every song they put out.


No, you don't.

But as I said, there's a place for everything. Wrong time, wrong thread.


I have no problem with Axl singing about his true, albeit 15 years old, feelings.  I guess that is probably my biggest problem with the song.  He's spilling his heart out about a relationship that ender a decade and half ago.  That would be like me still being broken hearted about my high school love.  I just don't get it.  It's time to move on.

Did you know November Rain wasn't written in 1991 when it was released?

Same with Don't Cry.


I got a newsflash for you, songs aren't always meant to be newscasts of what's going on right now....

Kid Rock had a hit singing about 1989.... Almost twenty years ago! Does that bother you? Do you hate the song based on that?



Besides, it's quite common for artists to write songs that don't get used right away.




Something tells me you wouldn't have the same cocky attitude face to face.

Why is that?




Every song is emo. "Emo" just means emotional... any true artist pours their emotions into their art. Everyone from Johnny Cash to John Lennon is emo.

It's really stupid to categorize emo now because it's the "in thing" to do...


If everything about feelings is emo, then a majority of music is "emo".

I guess that's the mother of all genres then!  :hihi:




/jarmo


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: italysfinest1985 on January 15, 2009, 10:40:59 AM
OK, perhaps calling it emo was a bit harsh but the song does nothing for me.  I think it is by far the worst song Axl has ever written.  NR, DC and other GnR ballads had a different feel to them.  They still rocked in their own way. 

That's your opinion.

The way you presented it (in the wrong thread too) was what caught my attention.




What's wrong with the first post?  I was answering the question at hand.

I saw a desperate attempt to score some "humor points".


  Just because I am a fan of the band doesn't mean I have to like every song they put out.


No, you don't.

But as I said, there's a place for everything. Wrong time, wrong thread.


I have no problem with Axl singing about his true, albeit 15 years old, feelings.  I guess that is probably my biggest problem with the song.  He's spilling his heart out about a relationship that ender a decade and half ago.  That would be like me still being broken hearted about my high school love.  I just don't get it.  It's time to move on.

Did you know November Rain wasn't written in 1991 when it was released?

Same with Don't Cry.


I got a newsflash for you, songs aren't always meant to be newscasts of what's going on right now....

Kid Rock had a hit singing about 1989.... Almost twenty years ago! Does that bother you? Do you hate the song based on that?



Besides, it's quite common for artists to write songs that don't get used right away.




Something tells me you wouldn't have the same cocky attitude face to face.

Why is that?




Every song is emo. "Emo" just means emotional... any true artist pours their emotions into their art. Everyone from Johnny Cash to John Lennon is emo.

It's really stupid to categorize emo now because it's the "in thing" to do...


If everything about feelings is emo, then a majority of music is "emo".

I guess that's the mother of all genres then!  :hihi:




/jarmo


Jarmo is right on the button.

A lot of men ("tough guys") aren't comfortable with trying to identify with slow-paced ballad songs pertaining to heartbreak and love. Why that is, I'll never know, nor do I mind their opinions.

How could someone honestly characterize a rock love ballad into a genre filled with depressed teenagers singing in a contrived voice purposely being used to make themselves sound 14 years old? Just because this song, like many rock songs, display genuine human emotion that doesn't identically match the "Night Train" or "Paradise City" formula, people seem to be scrambling for a way to negatively "categorize" the song.

It's a good thing the great 19th century poets and the musicians of the last century didn't have this mindset. Imagine all the legendary love songs and beautiful literature our world would have missed out on?


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: slashsbaconpit on January 15, 2009, 10:50:33 AM
Here's the deal I don't understand.
Those who trash this album do so for two things, primarily.

First, they say it's not the old GNR! It doesn't sound like Appetite! It doesn't have Slash! Why can't they go back to the old days? It's all Axl's fault, whaaa, whaaa, whaaa!

Second, they say that the album's music is dated and doesn't sound modern, and it doesn't have a consistent sound. It's all Axl's fault, whaaa, whaaa, whaaa!

Let me just say, the first, WTF would Axl and the new band try to go into the past? Axl singing about heroin and sleeping with strippers today would have about the same amount of impact as Bon Jovi singing about how he's hanging on by a tread because they shut a steel mill down (the same crap he still puts out). That type of song may have made him popular, but it's no longer relevant to who he is, there is no true feelings in it. I prefer how GNR has moved forward.

Second, the album sounds like GNR. It has modern production techniques, and a lot of different types of songs, but in the end it sounds like GNR. GNR hasn't been around for a while, so maybe it does sound dated. Is that a bad thing? Also, how dated can it be with the modern sounds that have been integrated.

Ah, they're all full of it.

Chinese Democracy rules. The part that made me tear up was the point when I had listened to the entire album and I knew that this was the real deal ... this wasn't some crappy thing cobbled together, this was a true piece of art. That made me go a little ... well ... "emo."


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: gilld1 on January 15, 2009, 10:59:43 AM
OK, I retract the emo comments.  I just detect some feel sorry for my broken heart in the song.  We can agree to disagree.  Perhaps, if my life in general or love life was shit right now I would appreciate it more, but at this time I can't relate.

I know music is not CNN and is not broadcasting current events.  At least Kid Rock is remembering something fondly.

Sure, all music has emotion.  I prefer anger or joy over disappointment and loss.  Music without emotion would be....techno.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: italysfinest1985 on January 15, 2009, 11:09:05 AM
OK, I retract the emo comments.  I just detect some feel sorry for my broken heart in the song.  We can agree to disagree.  Perhaps, if my life in general or love life was shit right now I would appreciate it more, but at this time I can't relate.

I know music is not CNN and is not broadcasting current events.  At least Kid Rock is remembering something fondly.

Sure, all music has emotion.  I prefer anger or joy over disappointment and loss.  Music without emotion would be....techno.


I knew you'd see it my way. You'll thank me tommorrow. : ok:

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Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Axlspants on January 15, 2009, 11:20:47 AM
Parts of Street of Dreams get me going, I've always loved the lyrics to that song, I think they're some of the best on the album. As for TIL I really like it, the guitar solo is amazing and although I agree that the lyrics are a little bit depressing, it is a good song. 


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: ppbebe on January 15, 2009, 11:43:33 AM
hey axlspants so tell us in what parts you cried?  ;D


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 23, 2009, 01:51:49 PM
Putting something personal out there for the world to judge requires a lot more balls than to just pretend and write songs about nothing personal.


In contrast, hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet doesn't require balls at all...




/jarmo


dam right Jarmo if u cant do that then if your a musicion then just call it quits now before you fuck yourself over


but Street of Dreams, This I Love, and some parts of Better got to me


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Annie on January 25, 2009, 09:57:33 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss. :(




/jarmo
Me too. That was a very touching story. Thankyou for sharing.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Classic Case on January 25, 2009, 10:19:40 PM
TIL made me cry.  :crying:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: AdZ on January 25, 2009, 10:44:10 PM
Something tells me you wouldn't have the same cocky attitude face to face.



You know, some people just tell it like it is.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Jarrod on January 26, 2009, 02:45:28 AM
This I Love had me shedding a tear or two, or three or four, or maybe even more. Why? Well, when I was a teenager I fell in love with this girl. Now, back then I wasnt popular with the girls. I had long black hair and was extremely shy... And this girl came into my life and showed interest in me. We ended up holding each other and kissing each other during the nights and holding hands during the day (in secret because our parents were friends and she would often spend the night at our place and we were afraid she wouldnt be allowed to do this if our parents knew that we had feelings for each other). Anyway, she was only here visiting for five weeks over the Australian Christmas holidays and she eventually had to go home with her parents. Man, I cried like Id never cried before when she left, and even though we wrote to each other, we never ended up getting back together even though we tried to save money to travel and see each other. We ended up losing touch and she fell pregnant and married someone else...

Well, after such a long-ish story, the reason why TIL effects me so much is because its exactly how I felt back in the weeks after she left, and how I felt from time to time since.




As for GnR and emo... I think some of GnR's tunes could be seen as emo, considering that emo is simply songs that bring those deep emotions out in people. Estranged is definately emo and so Dead Horse. Not a bad thing though. However TIL is definately NOT emo, its more Broadway IMHO.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: carmiedisco12 on January 26, 2009, 04:46:19 AM
Cant say I understand all the people that often say that these songs make them cry....Id suggest stopping drinking and hardening up a little :)
I have certain songs by Leonard Cohen and so on that can make me sad or even weepy as they remind me of someone I love deeply and lost in death....but crying purely from the emotion of the song itself, then no.

Im in 2 minds about TIL, i do find it hits me emotionally and i can really relate to the song . Theres been a few nights when ive been up at 4am tinkering on piano working on music by my late brother and in an emotionally contemplative/thoughtful/sad state and a songs like SOD, TIL,Prostitute have really spoken to me.

Ive been a little critical of CD at times ( probably as a bit of a frustrated reaction to some of the bordering on disturbed fanboys)...but despite my few criticisms of the album its a truly excellent CD, and deeply heartfelt, which I find admirable and brave......Axl is definately up there with the top tier of artists.

I do however miss a little bit of the old Axl swagger and sense of fun.....the emotionally drained, sad broken aspect of some of the Illusions and to a greater extent CD can be a bit tiresome.
Im hoping that an album of Silkworms style songs comes out as itd be an awesome driving CD (albeit silkworms isnt quite there yet), but the idea is great.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: The Prez on January 26, 2009, 05:04:49 AM
Pussies!  ;D

I didn't cry by listening to chinese democracy, but I do like TIL and it's a very emotional song...but crying is for me way too much.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 26, 2009, 08:40:06 AM
This I Love had me shedding a tear or two, or three or four, or maybe even more. Why? Well, when I was a teenager I fell in love with this girl. Now, back then I wasnt popular with the girls. I had long black hair and was extremely shy... And this girl came into my life and showed interest in me. We ended up holding each other and kissing each other during the nights and holding hands during the day (in secret because our parents were friends and she would often spend the night at our place and we were afraid she wouldnt be allowed to do this if our parents knew that we had feelings for each other). Anyway, she was only here visiting for five weeks over the Australian Christmas holidays and she eventually had to go home with her parents. Man, I cried like Id never cried before when she left, and even though we wrote to each other, we never ended up getting back together even though we tried to save money to travel and see each other. We ended up losing touch and she fell pregnant and married someone else...

Well, after such a long-ish story, the reason why TIL effects me so much is because its exactly how I felt back in the weeks after she left, and how I felt from time to time since.




As for GnR and emo... I think some of GnR's tunes could be seen as emo, considering that emo is simply songs that bring those deep emotions out in people. Estranged is definately emo and so Dead Horse. Not a bad thing though. However TIL is definately NOT emo, its more Broadway IMHO.
thats a great story man sorry bout the girl but for your sake please stop callin GNR songs emo k


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Uzi76 on January 26, 2009, 10:35:22 AM
The last two verses of 'The Blues' are very touchy (the 'has cost more than it should for me' part and 'what I thought was beautiful is all in memories' part) and whole of 'This I Love' of course. TIL is the most emotional GnR song ever.
'Sorry' made me cry too, but that was out of happiness. 'To hell with the pressure, I am not caving in' and 'I kicked your ass like I said that I would, biatch'. It's a personal thing  :hihi:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: ppbebe on January 26, 2009, 11:44:00 AM
thats a great story man sorry bout the girl but for your sake please stop callin GNR songs emo k

easy.  like 'metal' or 'glam' people got different definitions of emo and as jarrod said he considers emo as songs that bring deep emotions out in people. he didn't mean anything negative.  :)


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: bodine on January 26, 2009, 02:20:16 PM
This album has made me do nothing but smile 

Is everyone really crying (like actual tears) as they listen to it, or are we talking more in the figurative sense?

Chinese Democracy =  ;D ...  Not  :'(


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: GIMH on January 26, 2009, 03:59:05 PM
This I Love got to me a bit, going through a serious break-up at the time (still am, tttt), "I hoped she'd never leave me, dear God you must believe me", I was like - yeah, and it made me sad  :'(


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Annie on January 26, 2009, 07:49:26 PM
This I Love had me shedding a tear or two, or three or four, or maybe even more. Why? Well, when I was a teenager I fell in love with this girl. Now, back then I wasnt popular with the girls. I had long black hair and was extremely shy... And this girl came into my life and showed interest in me. We ended up holding each other and kissing each other during the nights and holding hands during the day (in secret because our parents were friends and she would often spend the night at our place and we were afraid she wouldnt be allowed to do this if our parents knew that we had feelings for each other). Anyway, she was only here visiting for five weeks over the Australian Christmas holidays and she eventually had to go home with her parents. Man, I cried like Id never cried before when she left, and even though we wrote to each other, we never ended up getting back together even though we tried to save money to travel and see each other. We ended up losing touch and she fell pregnant and married someone else...

Well, after such a long-ish story, the reason why TIL effects me so much is because its exactly how I felt back in the weeks after she left, and how I felt from time to time since.




As for GnR and emo... I think some of GnR's tunes could be seen as emo, considering that emo is simply songs that bring those deep emotions out in people. Estranged is definately emo and so Dead Horse. Not a bad thing though. However TIL is definately NOT emo, its more Broadway IMHO.
Beautiful story man. TIL does not make me cry because it makes me think of Edward Cullen in the TWILIGHT saga.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Wooody on January 26, 2009, 11:24:47 PM
This I Love had me shedding a tear or two, or three or four, or maybe even more. Why? Well, when I was a teenager I fell in love with this girl. Now, back then I wasnt popular with the girls. I had long black hair and was extremely shy... And this girl came into my life and showed interest in me. We ended up holding each other and kissing each other during the nights and holding hands during the day (in secret because our parents were friends and she would often spend the night at our place and we were afraid she wouldnt be allowed to do this if our parents knew that we had feelings for each other). Anyway, she was only here visiting for five weeks over the Australian Christmas holidays and she eventually had to go home with her parents. Man, I cried like Id never cried before when she left, and even though we wrote to each other, we never ended up getting back together even though we tried to save money to travel and see each other. We ended up losing touch and she fell pregnant and married someone else...

Well, after such a long-ish story, the reason why TIL effects me so much is because its exactly how I felt back in the weeks after she left, and how I felt from time to time since.




As for GnR and emo... I think some of GnR's tunes could be seen as emo, considering that emo is simply songs that bring those deep emotions out in people. Estranged is definately emo and so Dead Horse. Not a bad thing though. However TIL is definately NOT emo, its more Broadway IMHO.
Beautiful story man. TIL does not make me cry because it makes me think of Edward Cullen in the TWILIGHT saga.

enough with the twilight - this I love bullshit.
Good fuckin god.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Chief on January 27, 2009, 01:43:57 AM
most of the long screams make me cry.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Annie on January 27, 2009, 10:51:21 AM
This I Love had me shedding a tear or two, or three or four, or maybe even more. Why? Well, when I was a teenager I fell in love with this girl. Now, back then I wasnt popular with the girls. I had long black hair and was extremely shy... And this girl came into my life and showed interest in me. We ended up holding each other and kissing each other during the nights and holding hands during the day (in secret because our parents were friends and she would often spend the night at our place and we were afraid she wouldnt be allowed to do this if our parents knew that we had feelings for each other). Anyway, she was only here visiting for five weeks over the Australian Christmas holidays and she eventually had to go home with her parents. Man, I cried like Id never cried before when she left, and even though we wrote to each other, we never ended up getting back together even though we tried to save money to travel and see each other. We ended up losing touch and she fell pregnant and married someone else...

Well, after such a long-ish story, the reason why TIL effects me so much is because its exactly how I felt back in the weeks after she left, and how I felt from time to time since.




As for GnR and emo... I think some of GnR's tunes could be seen as emo, considering that emo is simply songs that bring those deep emotions out in people. Estranged is definately emo and so Dead Horse. Not a bad thing though. However TIL is definately NOT emo, its more Broadway IMHO.
Beautiful story man. TIL does not make me cry because it makes me think of Edward Cullen in the TWILIGHT saga.

enough with the twilight - this I love bullshit.
Good fuckin god.
BITE ME!!!!!!(But only if you are as hot as Robert Pattinson! :hihi:)


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: falungong69 on January 27, 2009, 11:10:11 AM
IRS actually got me a little teary eyed the other day.  i just kept thinking about how angry and hurt axl must be to want to call the irs and the fbi on someone.  whoever wronged him must have been a real asshole for him to want to unleash the dogs that way.  when teh song got to the kinda quiet part that's short, i imagined axl taking a deep breath and trying to calm himself down, but then launching right back into the fury!  i just thought wow, it must be so exhausting to be that mad at somebody, even if they deserved it by being a disloyal liar who tried to ruin axl. 


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: bodine on January 27, 2009, 11:28:51 AM
IRS actually got me a little teary eyed the other day.  i just kept thinking about how angry and hurt axl must be to want to call the irs and the fbi on someone.  whoever wronged him must have been a real asshole for him to want to unleash the dogs that way.  when teh song got to the kinda quiet part that's short, i imagined axl taking a deep breath and trying to calm himself down, but then launching right back into the fury!  i just thought wow, it must be so exhausting to be that mad at somebody, even if they deserved it by being a disloyal liar who tried to ruin axl. 

haha is there a song on CD you have not cried to???  You get very deep into your music!!!   :'(


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Annie on January 27, 2009, 11:29:57 AM
This album has made me do nothing but smile 

Is everyone really crying (like actual tears) as they listen to it, or are we talking more in the figurative sense?

Chinese Democracy =  ;D ...  Not  :'(
I am with you on this one. CHINESE DEMOCRACY makes me very happy!


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Dot on January 27, 2009, 12:10:36 PM
Basically all of This I Love, especially the last part and especially when he says "I?ll never say goodbyyyyyyyyyeeeeee"...man, It really made me cry, not a lot of songs make me cry but this one did. Unbelievable, Axl is just unbelievable! The lyrics and music are just too beautiful, plus I might be in a very confusing situation, so that helps.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on January 27, 2009, 08:32:21 PM
I have to go fall in love, have my heart broken, and listen to this record again.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Rage in the Cage on January 28, 2009, 10:54:23 AM
This I Love hasn't made me cry, but I'll admit it really tugs at me. It was supposed to be on the soundtrack for What Dreams May Come, and watching the video for it up on youtube brings back alot of sorrow.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on January 28, 2009, 11:08:47 AM
I have to go fall in love, have my heart broken, and listen to this record again.

Same. Probably with someone else though.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: ppbebe on January 28, 2009, 11:12:20 AM
But if the girl/boy won't leave you?

You really don't have to be in tears to appreciate this album, do you?


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: falungong69 on January 28, 2009, 11:21:18 AM
This I Love hasn't made me cry, but I'll admit it really tugs at me. It was supposed to be on the soundtrack for What Dreams May Come, and watching the video for it up on youtube brings back alot of sorrow.

the producers of that movie are fucking idiots if they didn't want 'this i love' in there stupid crappy movie. 

i wonder if axl would have delivered the album sooner if the song got picked up for that movie.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Annie on January 28, 2009, 01:14:24 PM
This I Love hasn't made me cry, but I'll admit it really tugs at me. It was supposed to be on the soundtrack for What Dreams May Come, and watching the video for it up on youtube brings back alot of sorrow.

the producers of that movie are fucking idiots if they didn't want 'this i love' in there stupid crappy movie. 

i wonder if axl would have delivered the album sooner if the song got picked up for that movie.
That movie was kind of weird.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Uber-Tech on January 29, 2009, 12:27:57 PM
Honest answer?

When I brought Chinese Democracy and took it back to my car.  Sitting in my car, in a town center care park, I cried.  Just a little.  Then I really cried after the first listen.  I felt so happy that I finally had the one thing I'd spent so long waiting for, and I was so happy that it was so good.



Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: ppbebe on January 29, 2009, 12:53:51 PM
tears of joy.
yep we also cry when we're too happy. aren't we complicated?


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Uber-Tech on January 29, 2009, 01:12:30 PM
Hell yes.  Joy abounding.

However, also cry (with anger) at all the people putting Chinese Democracy down simply because of who is / isn't in the band.  It makes me so mad when people refer to Guns N' Roses in the past tense.  People who claim to be Guns N Roses 'fans' but refuse to accept the old lineup.  Surely if someone doesn't like the line-up, then they're no longer a fan.  It is, in fact the fan who is in the past tense, not the band.

Then I read somewhere (think it was on another forum), that Prostitute was basically Axl's goodbye and that we'll never hear from him again.  No more albums, no tour etc.....

So then I cried for a different reason.

btw, I also cry at TIL, Prostitute, and Street of Dreams sometimes makes me cry too.

My life is an emotional rollercoaster  :)


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: ppbebe on January 29, 2009, 01:43:40 PM
Then I read somewhere (think it was on another forum), that Prostitute was basically Axl's goodbye and that we'll never hear from him again.  No more albums, no tour etc.....

So then I cried for a different reason.

hey don't get maudlin for such stupid lies.
for the record we heard from dexter.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Annie on January 29, 2009, 01:52:58 PM
It really makes me want to cry sometimes that more people do not realize what a masterpiece this CD truly :'( is.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Padmasana on January 29, 2009, 04:32:54 PM
I haven't cried... but I had a guitargasm when I heard the Finck/Bucket interplay throughout the album. Quite astonishing at times. I am now working my way through slowly learning all the solos and riffs that my primitive blues-rock guitar style can handle!  ;D


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Brundle25 on January 29, 2009, 04:47:22 PM
a bit off topic, but does anyone know if there was a metallica thread, on a forum, that was like 'what part of death magnetic made you cry'
just throwing that out there as i really dont think that would exist


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Uber-Tech on January 29, 2009, 04:55:27 PM
It really makes me want to cry sometimes that more people do not realize what a masterpiece this CD truly :'( is.

I know. I've had several conversations with people who said that Chinese Democracy is crap without the ex-members.  It then turns out they haven't even heard any of the album.  I can feel  the hot tears of anger at the thought of those conversations.  >:(


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Uber-Tech on January 29, 2009, 05:07:05 PM
Then I read somewhere (think it was on another forum), that Prostitute was basically Axl's goodbye.

hey don't get maudlin for such stupid lies.
for the record we heard from dexter.

I know, but at the time I'd endured a fair bit of Chi Dem bashing, and even my solid beliefs were beginning to take a bit of a battering.  

However, have since moved away from said forum and am hoping I have now joined a forum that truly appreciates and believes in Guns N' Roses. Refuse to cry over unsubstansiated lies anymore.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Jdog0830 on January 30, 2009, 10:20:57 PM
Then I read somewhere (think it was on another forum), that Prostitute was basically Axl's goodbye.

hey don't get maudlin for such stupid lies.
for the record we heard from dexter.

I know, but at the time I'd endured a fair bit of Chi Dem bashing, and even my solid beliefs were beginning to take a bit of a battering.  

However, have since moved away from said forum and am hoping I have now joined a forum that truly appreciates and believes in Guns N' Roses. Refuse to cry over unsubstansiated lies anymore.
O trust me u wont have to deal with that bullshit here


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: falungong69 on January 30, 2009, 10:47:34 PM
It really makes me want to cry sometimes that more people do not realize what a masterpiece this CD truly :'( is.

I know. I've had several conversations with people who said that Chinese Democracy is crap without the ex-members.  It then turns out they haven't even heard any of the album.  I can feel  the hot tears of anger at the thought of those conversations.  >:(

i could see the making me cry too.  but i actually went so far as to play the music for my FORMER friends and they still trashed it and said it sucked.  okay, being ignorant - that's one thing.  but to outright lie to my face.  yeah, some friends.  but ultimately you just have to let it roll off your back because some people just like to be dicks and try to tear others down.  they live in a sad and narrow world and i feel sorry for them.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: russkwtx on January 31, 2009, 01:56:42 PM
I did not cry, but I was embarrassed when listening to This I Love because it is so raw and open in its emotion. It takes tremendous courage to put yourself out there  and expose yourself to the world like that.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: y2marmar on January 31, 2009, 07:48:21 PM
I didn't cry at all. But I did feel really emotional when listening to THis I Love


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: ppbebe on February 01, 2009, 02:18:33 PM
I didn't cry at all. But I did feel really emotional when listening to THis I Love

but you said

I just love Catcher in the Rye, This I Love, If The World...it really doesn't take a lot to make me cry


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Padmasana on February 01, 2009, 03:22:27 PM
In other news, I let out a 'lol' when I heard 'gonna call the President' in I.R.S. just now... there were 3 US Presidents in office, 2 of which were elected to 2 terms, in the time between UYI and CD... So who was Axl gonna call?  :hihi:


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: ppbebe on February 01, 2009, 05:01:09 PM
In other news, I let out a 'lol' when I heard 'gonna call the President' in I.R.S. just now... there were 3 US Presidents in office, 2 of which were elected to 2 terms, in the time between UYI and CD... So who was Axl gonna call?  :hihi:

mr bush mr clinton and who?


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Gargh! on February 01, 2009, 05:39:51 PM
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Wow, you are some emotional people.

I havent even come close to crying from anything on the album, but then again I dont have much to cry about there days anyway  Lighten up people!

Same here : ok:  I don't think any music has ever made me cry - not even when I was 15 and records were the most important thing in the world and were a blueprint for how to live your life...

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but i actually went so far as to play the music for my FORMER friends and they still trashed it and said it sucked.  okay, being ignorant - that's one thing.  but to outright lie to my face.  yeah, some friends.

You know, people are allowed to just not like it.  Wouldn't life suck if everyone had the same opinions?

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they live in a sad and narrow world and i feel sorry for them.

Ho hum.

You are on the wind up, yeah?


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: Padmasana on February 01, 2009, 07:00:35 PM
In other news, I let out a 'lol' when I heard 'gonna call the President' in I.R.S. just now... there were 3 US Presidents in office, 2 of which were elected to 2 terms, in the time between UYI and CD... So who was Axl gonna call?  :hihi:

mr bush mr clinton and who?

Bush Snr, Clinton, Bush Jnr.


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: iloozion on February 03, 2009, 10:11:38 AM
The most emotional bits for me are:
the solo section from CITR - just cos it's so awesome and sounds classic, really reminds me why I love GN'R so much
the strings ending to Prostitute, cos it's just beautiful and it really sums up the end of something so immense as 'CD' - like it's just a release of all those years of work


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: spacebrain5000 on February 05, 2009, 03:13:49 PM
I'm glad that you people feel the same way about chinese democracy as I do. I haven't posed here probably in years. I once spent a significant amount of time refreshing this website repeatedly waiting waiting waiting....... and then I stopped waiting and started living my life and while I never forgot about GNR or chinese democracy I was no longer waiting. and one day, I heard that chinese democracy was coming out. I couldn't believe it, and got it at first opportunity. At first listen my plan was to study and listen to it at the same time. but I simply couldnt, it completely overwhelmed me..... all the nostalgia... all the waiting.. all the imagining, all the anticipation, and I couldn't even imagine a greater finished product. To me it's an accumulation of things..... but upon listening to it I was completely transfixed and nothing else might as well have existed. To this day I think the best way to listen to it is with my eyes closed. It's very overpowering, overwhelming... all these years, have accumulated to this..... And I felt like it filled me with something that I hadn't felt in years... it's cathartic. Street of Dreams makes me cry... mostly the vocal acrobatics that are just filled with years worth of emotions, of honesty... its says more to be than words ever could, expresses things words could not adequately express. There was a time. This I love. The end of prostitute  as well.... "Where would you go if I told you I loved you and then walked away?" certainly the wait was worth it, even though I stopped waiting I never forgot......... sometimes one waits in vain, or waits for something that does not live up to the expectations one has in one's mind. but this, it was almost a reminder that some things that seem impossibility,  sometimes you can have everything you've hoped for if only you are patient. i'm glad i participated in the GNR story, followed the legacy, watched it unfold and it was everything i was hoping for.
and sometimes things you don't expect to ever happen, sometimes they do. and thank you GNR for reminding me of that because it's very inspirational. 


Title: Re: which parts of chinese democracy have made you cry?
Post by: waxlrick on February 07, 2009, 08:19:14 AM
None. Not even close.