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I had this question going for a while now in my head.

With the economic context of 2009, is it a good year for bands to go on tour in 2009?  I mean, with all the lost jobs, and people having less and less money, is it a good thing that bands  take the road in 2009?  Are the bands on tour will have less crowded places?

Juast a question.

What do you think about it?


I am sure a lot of people that lost their jobs don't have 100$ or 150$ to spend on a rock show no?

Then someone else who has the money will go. Easy as that.

i think they should wait a couple of years and see how the economy goes before heading out on tour :-X

Exactly!!!,  right on the money!!

Any year is a good year to tour for Guns N' Roses,  The name is legendary itself, people will go!!! :smoking:

or bands could try charge decent prices.

I hate bands who rip the fans off. Any band that charges more than ?35 to go to a gig is pushing it.

It's never a good year.....

Things can always be better.

I don't mean the economy. Just things that are related to touring.



Maybe it'll be harder for those big acts to justify their $300 tickets though...




I think a rock concert can be a way for people to escape the real life for a night.

You go out to see a concert and can forget about bills, your job and whatever for a few hours.





/jarmo

and get recharged again.  : ok:


maybe rock is rececssionproof.
I hear notable movements in rock sprung up during recession times.

This state of the economy doesn't really matter in my opinion.  Here in the UK anyway people are still attending gigs, sporting events etc in similar numbers to what they were before.  Demand for these sorts of events almost always massively outstrips supply so even if in the current economic climate demand does drop I doubt that it will drop to a level where it will be satisfied by supply.  Take for example the recent sale of AC/DC tickets for the UK tour, I was one of the lucky few to get a ticket for their gig at Hampden, a 60k+ seated stadium with standing room on the pitch, in June in the 8 MINUTES that it took for all the tickets to be gone.  It was a similar story for their other gigs at Wembley and the like and also a similar situation with other bands who are embarking on large scale tours this year.  Morale of the piece is that I really don't think a GnR tour will be any different, there will always be enough people willing to part with the cash to go to a gig even during a recession.  What's more if you look at the social demographic attending gigs then you'll see that groups such as students make up a large proportion of the attendees and students are skint anyway so they won't be put off from going.

Bingo - supply and demand.

i think if a band. Definately gives one kick ass fuckin show. And its brilliant. For defo.

Then those guys will succeed in these times because they will be worth the money.

Thats why i wont go see Oasis live cause they are boring live.

Are people not going to sporting events right now? Other concerts?

2009 is the year to tour if you just released an album...nuff said.

that's exactly why i go to live shows.  awesome point!

I completely agree with you there Jarmo. Things like concerts will be a release for people in the current climate!

Mike

The band could always tour in smaller venues, or at least at the beginning of the tour to see how things go. It would also be nice to get ticket prices a little lower.

Regardless of the economic situation right now, if people want to go see their favorite band in concert, they will find a way. If people stop spending money, that will do nothing but further hurt the economy (that topic is best saved for another time and another forum)... so yeah I think 2009 is as good a year for a tour as any. That was a good question though.

It is damn true that charging 150$ for a ticket is a total ripp-off.

Bands that do are:

Ac-Dc
Aerosmith
Metallica
so on


At least GnR was 75$ AND thay had 6 hours of non stop rock concert, and strippers.... :rofl:

Wich is WAY better than any other acts mentioned.

Britney Spears is charging 150$ too...

I can't beleive people are buying 150$ tickets to go see Britney SPears..... :hihi:

the bad economy probably makes people choosier than before, which i think isn't so bad for music and gnr.

Or Aerosmith...

I've paid that money to see Aerosmith. They're a great live act. I don't see them everytime they're around though and probably would if it was cheaper.
Concert tickets can be expensive, but to me it's worth the experience when compared to money spent at movies bars restaurants or whatever.

I read that the big acts are all doing well, because a lot of people will shell out whatever money to see the really big bands.  And small acts are doing well, since they're still nice and cheap so people will be prepared to pay a little bit for what could be a great night.  It's the middle sized acts that are suffereing from this recession.

And Guns N' Roses is still a big band, so I think they'd do well to tour this year. 

Blasphemy  >:(

sure it's a good time. when things are bad, people try to find ways to escape but for a few hours the reality of their situations. So, they may not have funds for a big trip, but a concert here and there or movie is appealing and cheap considering other oprions. plus, it's never a bad time to tour, the more tourong the better as far as i'm concerned.

Any year is a good year when your favorite band will tour ! economy doesn't matter, I don't make much but I would save and save to see GnR when they came to my town.

   
I completely agree with you bud!!
Every year I always spent a lot of money to see my favorite bands.
Usually when a band come to my country, they never play in my town, so I have often to take 8 hours of flight to Rio de Janeiro or S?o Paulo and I Still have expenses of hosting.
I never complain it is aways worth for me.

Yeah it is, as long as prices are relatively reasonable and they play in cities that they can sell tickets in.  Also, venue choice is key.. they probably won't sell out arenas in small cities.

Cheap bastards... :P

I paid only $35 to see Aerosmith. Front row tickets. That's probably because if you charge $150 here for a show, nobody's going to come to see you... You should settle down in a third world country ;). I agree that bands should tour this year, at the same time charge less for their tickets.

i agree with jarmo. guns keeps tix reasonable and these songs need to be incorporated into the live set. i can't see this record performed live not helping with sales!

To me it depends on the situation.  While some bands charge a significant amount usually up to $150 they tend to have a very expensive stage For the show GnR did it was under $100 for prime tickets I think if they did that again they would do fine.  However they would want to either go to large cities only in the U.S.   In Canada with exception of Ontario the country is doing not to bad so would probably once again sell better there. 

There was an article in the latest Rolling Stone about this very thing.  It sounds like bands are cutting back on costs and ticket prices.  Some are waiting until later in the year before even attempting to tour.

Many of the big bands will be touring through the year....

Some have already started, some are starting later.


It'll be interesting to see if the current situation will have any effect on ticket prices.






/jarmo

I go to many shows regardless of my economic situation.

For selfish reasons, I do hope that ticket prices will drop back to normal levels.  It would save me a ton of money....



For more shows!  ;D

I think is a good year for touring...and GNR just released CD

I paid 150$ to see VR and was a good show...but I paid 80$ for GNR both front rows

GNR was the best!.....Love VR but the Gunners are just the best.

AC/DC just did a concert here and was over 100$ and they got full house...so I dont think economy is stoping people to have some fun to forget about problems....

Of course us big time GNR fans will save our money and go no matter what. 

But here is why the economy DOES affect ticket sales.  The average fan,  or someone who knows the typical GNR hits, but aren't huge fans,  certainly might not pay the money to see them.  At any sold out show... there are thousands of these kind of people.     

Well, they can tour as much as they want to, but if GnR decides to come to Brazil without warning at least 4 months in advance, I'll be screwed, I'm broke  :'(

yeah man you should start saving now!

its always a good time for touring...the economy really has no impact if an artist is good...just saw Metallica 2 nights in row..not an empty seat in the place, and had to wait over 20 minutes on line just get a tshirt....If the economy is bad nobody has told AC/DC or Metallica about it...

Springstein (sp?) has just ripped into the promotors of his tour because of the ticketing policy, in most cases its them to blame for the price of tickets. If I'm not mistaken Gn'R were their own promotors last time out and as such were able to keep the costs down. This isn't a critisism but an opinion of mine, but the Guns have a "Trailer Trash" approach to the way they do things and is one of the things I like about them. Other acts seem to go the "Caviar" route, not having any say on anything and removing themselves from the whole deal.

My trailer trash tag has led the band to being at the wrong end of comments in the past, turning up late, no news etc. But if you get Gn'R, you'll get that its their way, its part of the charm, it's giving the finger to those who say it has to been done in a set way, follow convention if you like, Axl and co say "if you don't like it f*** off!"

No no no no no no no..what would that do to album sales ? Besides..I can not wait that long..  ;) I hope Axl won't listen to your advice on this.  ::)

I don't care if I lose my job tomorrow... i WILL be at the next tour.

now this topic question from fans regarding to a band Axl is involved?? come on, we've had sooooo many silent years that even considering to wait for better economy years is totally out of line. "get on tour or f*ck off"  :hihi:

metallica sold out a show in philly in less than an hour. tix were NOT overpriced. GA Floor was $82. the entire first level was $62. they had a center stage set up and my buddy was in the 4th row. he still cannot believe he saw a show that close for about $75 (with the BS fees).

Bruce just sold out 2 nights in philly in an hour. tix were basically $98 (about $112 with the fees) for most seats in the place.

Billy Joel sold out 6 (six!) shows here in Ft Laudardale tickets between 150-300 $

economy is bad but people wont stop doing what they really like

I wany my GNR back! TOUR TOUR TOUR!!!!  :rant:

I'd love to see Gn'R do a small venue tour.  Like Hammerstein, HoB-AC along those lines.

2009 is a great year for a tour!

Im not suggesting GNR to not tour.  They will still make money and we will still enjoy the show.

However, some of you guys need to stop comparing GNR to bands like metallica or bruce springsteene or billy joel...lol 

I love GNR but i also understand that as of right now.. they are definately not as big as these other bands and not as big as they once were. 

People need to get to know this new band for that to change.  Yeah, It could happen... but right now, you would only see a few more people at the shows than you did back in 2002.  They didn't sell out shows in the US then and they won't now.  Until they promote themselves that is.     

To answer the question, its probably not a good year to tour in this economic climate.

Although, the entertainment industry will be hoping people will be looking to escape their woes through movies, music and the like.

In any case its a good question.

the economic climate is so bad that they shouldnt tour the next years! and if the economy still sucks by then they still shouldnt tour.

bah, its not that only 100 people could afford to buy tickets+
we've had so many silent years that its a much more cool move fanwise to get what we can.
and much likely there wont be another album out in 2009/2010. we have one album, there is interest to tour.....so cd will be toured.

---case closed---

I'm thinking any time is a great time for touring, especially now, how much more is this show going to mean to you, knowing you had to work and save that much more to scrape up funds for your ticket.  I have always enjoyed something twice as much, when it was something I worked extra hard to earn, my own self satisfaction maybe?

I'm thinking that at 7.30 tonight (UK time) we'll get a good idea about whether we'll see GnR tour this year. The download festival line-up is announced then and if Guns aren't on it, I think its unlikely we'll see them in Europe this summer at least. I have been expecting/hoping to see them play at Rock Am Ring, Novarock and Download amongst others but so far nothing (although RAR and Novarock seem to have strange gaps in their line ups).

The Download Festival is the only reason a band like GN'R would tour in Europe?

So if they're not playing there, they can't play anywhere else in Europe?





/jarmo

No, but Download is by far the most likely UK festival, Rock Am Ring is the most likely German one and NovaRock is the most likely Austrian one and...well you get the idea.

Guns weren't announced for Download last night but it seems by looking at the homepage that only one proper headliner was (Slipknot) so it's still possible that Guns could be there...

Normally when you get big festival announcements you get all 3 headliners and a few other bands. That doesn't seem to be happening this year. I'm not saying its definitely because everyone is trying to book GnR and plans are still being finalised, I just think it might be that.

There are a lot of other high profile bands that are likely to play Download - Def Leppard, Whitesnake even Limp Bizkit. Guns aren't even rumoured

They have however been linked to the Sonisphere festival in Knebworth

Now is a good time for them to tour in my opinion, better than in prior years They have just released an album and what better time to promote it and have some fun in the meantime

Don't think Whitesnake or Limp Bizkit would be headliners. In fact I'd be surprised if Fred Durst turned up at all as he would be bombarded with bottles of piss for sure.

And the Sonisphere festival in Knebworth is two days - Metallica headlining one and Linkin Park on the other. Where are Guns gonna fit in?

Just because a band isn't rumoured for a festival doesn't mean they are not going to be there.

The didn't do Download in 2002, but I swear I saw them in Leeds...

If they are gonna do one festival in 2009, let it be The Isle of Wight  :peace:

I'm talking about this year! Reading/Leeds headliners are most likely to be Kings Of Leon, Radiohead and Arctic Monkeys. AC/DC and Bruce Springsteen are Hard Rock Calling.

Isle Of Wight is not a bad sugestion though.

Agreed

Checkout efestivals.com if you haven't already - gives you a breakdown of who is likely to play

As for Knebworth (Sonisphere) I thought the same, but apparently the organisers are looking for a festival full of big names and GNR was mentioned so I guess there is a chance. In reality the most likely option is they won't play any though!

^^

Metallica to headline UK leg of new Europe-wide rock tour

February 10th, 2009

Other bands confirmed to be feature in the ?broad church? of rock music on a single stage included Linkin Park, Guns N?Roses, Iron Maiden, Foo Fighters, and Muse.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/metallica-to-headline-uk-leg-of-new-europe-wide-rock-tour_100153388.html

Metallica, Linkin Park Set For Sonisphere Festival

02.09.2009

Sonisphere is hoping to host mostly top-name acts for the show. Other groups believed to be in talks to perform include Guns N' Roses, Iron Maiden, Foo Fighters, Muse and the Stereophonics.

http://www.411mania.com/music/news/96481/Metallica,-Linkin-Park-Set-For-Sonisphere-Festival.htm

yesterday it was in talks and now confirmed?  ??? somehow the " between N and R doesn't appeal to me.

I suspect they're just referring to this article:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article5689268.ece





/jarmo

Yeah, one of the articles said "confirmed" and the other said "believed to be in talks"(rumored).  That's why I posted them both.  I'm going with the latter.

god damn if they went with sonisphere, i'm already thinking about getting tickets to the Swedish festival, GNR would set that shit in stone :hihi:

 ::) you know axl often complains that the press talk shit? this is the kind of thing he's talking about. 'Confirmed' my ass.

Well I've bought a ticket for the weekend, should be good for the other bands even if GNR don't turn up.

Kind of frustrates me though how you have to second guess which festivals bands might turn up to before you buy tickets. Demand for concerts like Reading is so high you don't have much choice but to get your order in early

Metallica was $75. for great seats, ticketbastard fees included.

This is largely due to the toutscum that buy loads of tickets purely to sell them for profit on ebay.  :rant:

I paid $200 a seat for front row tickets to see Bucket on New Years Eve and about mid show everyone rushed to the front and blocked my view, what are the chances of that? Definately ticked me off :rant:

I'm heading overseas to Belgium & Graspop festival, doubt GNR will be there but it would be nice  :beer:

Think download is a no-no, Motley are there though  : ok:

Maiden and GnR at the same show - now that would be something.  They won't have played together since Donnington 88 (could a better festival line-up be imagined?) - in fact I remember seeing an interview with Axl from that festival when he said he wasn't keen on Maiden because he thought they were using their music to push a political message; anyone know what that's about?

The other bands rumoured don't do much for me, but Maiden and Guns.... wow.

I remember seeing an interview where he said something along the lines of he hoped Guns didn't become like Maiden... but he did not elaborate much, don't recall any political sub text though.  IF (big if) they did a show together, wonder who would headline. If it was UK Guns would probably have to defer to Maiden so I can't see it happening myself -

Saw Maiden last year - Bruce Dickinson - " this song is called Revelations" Crowd - "Motherfuckers!!"  :rofl:

I've been kinda tempted by this too, have a few mates already going.  A guns confirmation would definitely tip me over the edge  : ok: