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Title: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: ppbebe on January 09, 2009, 03:14:44 PM
carmiedisco's thread gave me the idea.  ;D

for instance dexter mentioned reggae on sorry. ( i am not sure how it's reggae :-\)


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Gargh! on January 09, 2009, 03:16:03 PM
I suppose Catcher in the Rye sounds a bit Beatles-esque in some respects.  And maybe a wee bit Queen.


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: *Timothy* on January 09, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
Buckethead.....


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: widevu on January 09, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
queen definitly
elton john
nine inch nails
marilyn manson
original gnr


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Bodhi on January 09, 2009, 03:47:44 PM
i hear a little NIN/Manson/Zombie on Shackler's, but it is not an industrial song like alot of people are saying..."Sorry" makes me think of Pink Floyd a little maybe a little AIC as well...those are just off the top of my head...It is hard to say, but these are just elements of songs...The songs themselves as a whole sound very original, the type of stuff I have never heard before


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: GNR4L on January 09, 2009, 04:02:41 PM
Arabic feel with If The World and Riad N The Bedouins.  Prositute and This I Love sound similar to Queen, Better, TWAT, Chinese Democracy, IRS, Scraped, sound like Modern GnR.  Probaly Better and IRS  sound more sleaze rock just a tad.


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: doooodickiebr on January 09, 2009, 04:59:50 PM
queen definitly
elton john
nine inch nails
marilyn manson
original gnr

this would also be my list


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: ppbebe on January 09, 2009, 05:02:19 PM
rhiad also has some sf feel as msaxl pointed out in another thread. Arabic  zep-ish gnr space opera?


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: fieldsy on January 09, 2009, 05:18:06 PM
Dunno if this was what Axl intended but I have always seen Cather in the Rye as a very Queen esque song.  Start of Sorry reminds me of Pink Floyd.


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: tippasaurus on January 09, 2009, 06:00:12 PM
Buckethead.....

Especially on "Sorry."  I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but musically that song sounds like it comes straight from Electric Tears. 


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: don_vercetti on January 09, 2009, 06:29:13 PM
Loads of Queen and Elton John, otherwise nothing else jumps out at me, personally.  Obviously there are genre influences (hip hop, grunge, etc). 


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Moonlight J on January 09, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
There's something about "Scraped" that reminds me of The Who's "My Generation".


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: ecwfan on January 09, 2009, 08:48:03 PM
I suppose Catcher in the Rye sounds a bit Beatles-esque in some respects.  And maybe a wee bit Queen.

The original demo had a really big Beatles influence. It faded out like "Hey Jude" in a way. Of the songs I wish Axl Rose had not touched up or changed it was "Catcher in the Rye". The demo ranks up higher to me than the Album version.


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Wooody on January 09, 2009, 09:53:07 PM
I heard half of Chidem in a bar today, and a friend of mine thought Chinese democracy (the song) was smashing pumpkins..


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Mighty Mouse on January 09, 2009, 10:27:29 PM
Chinese Democracy got this feel to it for me....Just listen to
Josh Freese's song on his Myspace page.....  called "I Don't Think That's OK"

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=54648841

I feel and think that Chinese Democracy (the song that is) has a Punk-Rock style to it...mostly the leaked version of the song. It sounds a lot more polished on the albums offical release version now though. Great GN'R song IMO  ;)


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Mighty Mouse on January 09, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
Sir. Elton John on "The Blues/Street Of Dreams". I remember thinking and feeling that way the first time I heard the song from the live leak that was most likely recoreded live from a sound board, cause I also remember it being a pretty good version of the song recorded live unoffically. I listened to that version a shit load of times. I do recall though on the first few listens of "The Blues/Street Of Dreams" that it did reminded me and other friends of mine that I played the song for also thought that it sounded like Sir. Elton John.  ;)
What another Great song from GN'R out of the 14 Amazing songs that were offically released on their Chinese Democracy album.  :)


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 09, 2009, 10:53:11 PM
I heard half of Chidem in a bar today, and a friend of mine thought Chinese democracy (the song) was smashing pumpkins..


Not sure I hear Pumpkins on the track CD, but Better definitely has Pumpkins elements

The guitar intro as well as the riff both sound like something Billy Corgan would do


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 09, 2009, 10:56:02 PM
Some influences that seem to be there

Shackler's:  NIN (not musically, but the arrangements especially during pre-chorus)
Better:  Pumpkins
SoD:  Elton John
If The World: Isaac Hayes
TWAT: ELO, Dream Theater
Catcher:  Queen, Beatles
Riad: Zeppelin
Sorry: Pink Floyd, Sabbath
This I Love: Freddie Mercury


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Is he struggling? on January 10, 2009, 04:27:06 AM
I detect a strong influence from the later Led Zeppelin abums (Houses of the Holy, Physical Graffiti, Presence, and In Through the Out Door). I think that Axl has on some level followed Zeppelin's lead in expanding his trademark hard rock sound into new and epic places.

Also, I can't help but be reminded of Michael Jackson's 1995 album HIStory. Seriously, there are quite a lot of similarities. Like MJ's album, there are a lot of different musical styles, plenty of studio wizadry and some quite touching and revealing lyrics about the artist's struggles. One song on HIStory (the title track), even samples Martin Luther King Jr.

It probably wasn't a direct influence (and there is nothing on C.D. that is nearly as heinous as 'Earth Song' :-X), but there are definitely paralells. 


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: ppbebe on January 10, 2009, 11:58:42 AM
the irs voice, which I like the best, is partly Jackson five ish. :yes:


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Chief on January 10, 2009, 12:49:36 PM
all I hear is NIN, techno, hip hop and rap!


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: ppbebe on January 10, 2009, 01:31:25 PM
all I hear is NIN, techno, hip hop and rap!

and no jazz, funk, flamenco, arabico, reggae, tuonela, dizney, sf/horror zep, beatles, Pink Floyd, elton etc...or even sade?  :o

the outro of cd sounds pretty chinese.


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Chief on January 10, 2009, 02:37:29 PM
hehe, i was just joking around :D


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: 5150 on January 11, 2009, 01:59:17 PM
If you listen closely I think there's a lot of blues on the cd. On some places jazz, too.

Someone said better was a bit like smashing pumpkins... interesting!


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Nytunz on January 11, 2009, 02:11:23 PM
Great Tread

Sorry - Reminds me a bit about A Perfect Circle and Pink Floyed .. like a mix of the two..
This I Love - Queen, and Freddie as someone already mentioned
IRS and Riad.. - i get some kind of Zeppelin vibe..



Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: ppbebe on January 11, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
This I Love - Queen, and Freddie as someone already mentioned
and spinal tap :P and classical music. i still think IRS includes stairway in a modern way.  :yes:

For me sorry is the most mysterious and unusual above all.  Avant garde and primitive at the same time.

what songs of smashing pumpkins, A Perfect Circle and Pink Floyed should I check?


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Nytunz on January 11, 2009, 04:10:44 PM
Check out the song Gravity.. there is something about the instruments.. and when they hit the "Lost again.. Broken... "
Somehow i think of that song when i Listen to sorry..:P


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: gilld1 on January 12, 2009, 10:42:49 AM
With the sprinkling of electronics I hear a Pop era U2 sound.

Something about the rythm of Rhiad reminds me of Badmotorfnger era Soundgarden.

This I love sounds like it is from Mama Mia!!


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: ppbebe on January 12, 2009, 12:15:57 PM
With the sprinkling of electronics I hear a Pop era U2 sound.

Something about the rythm of Rhiad reminds me of Badmotorfnger era Soundgarden.

This I love sounds like it is from Mama Mia!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k7rCQ1LMJvc&feature=related ???
well I thought of sibelius. both are from scandinavia.
I hear a sprinkle of U2 too on prostitute. :yes:

Check out the song Gravity.. there is something about the instruments.. and when they hit the "Lost again.. Broken... "
Somehow i think of that song when i Listen to sorry..:P

 i like the song and I can seee why you associate this song with sorry.  :yes:
plus it has josh and Howerdel altho they left the cd project before sorry.

I still think there're more factors causing the outstanding wickdness/meanness to sorry .


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Bitch Slap Rappin on January 12, 2009, 01:22:18 PM
To my ears I hear something totally new. They might be small bits and pieces that might remind you of someone but I think they produced this cd so that it's only identified by it's own particular sound. Just when you think it might sound like so and so there is a curve ball that denys that comparison.


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: GNR4L on January 12, 2009, 01:38:41 PM
I like the production of Caram and Axl, they brought a new sound to GnR and Rock music today. Instead of your same old, same old, they brought something fresh, new, and exciting.  Along with the band their amazing !


I can hear new influences on

- Street Of Dreams
- Shacklers Revenge
- If The World
- Riad N The Bedouins
- Prositute

and the list goes on...  This is truly a Guns N' Roses record of today's era.


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: Reinaldo on January 12, 2009, 03:14:12 PM
Does anyone agree the "naaa-na" "naaa-na" vocals on Better is a tottally 90's Aerosmith-ian / Tyler-ish influence??


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: jarmo on January 14, 2009, 12:10:02 PM
Talking of influences.


Isn't it ironic that people tend to focus on the fact that it's not your typical rock album? Meaning, they focus on the fact that there's drum beats, effects, samples etc.


It's probably one of the most guitar oriented albums of recent times!

There's a lot of guitars on the album and it's not like they're in the background either. From my point of view, that's been kinda overlooked....





/jarmo


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: AxlsMainMan on January 14, 2009, 01:43:41 PM
Maybe some Barry White on If The World ;D


Title: Re: what influence you spot on cd?
Post by: acompleteunknown on January 16, 2009, 01:48:22 AM
After hearing Dexter say that's he's been listening to a lot of musical scores...I've started to really get that feeling from the album.  It's not your typical rock album.  it doesn't set one mood from beginning to end.  It goes through a lot of hills and valleys, which is much like that of a musical score.  Just listening to the intro of TWAT sounds like it could be the opening song to a James Bond movie.  Instead of finding rock influences on the album...I've started hearing cinematic influences...shackler's sounds like it could have fit flawlessly in with the Matrix.

The one pop influence I hear...that no one else has mentioned is Radiohead.  I definitely hear a lot of Bends, OK Computer and Kid A.