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Not sure what I would prefer a tour or as Axl N' company have hinted at a new album for 2009...Don't get me wrong I am thouraghly enjoying CD, more tahn I expected.....I kept away the greedy thoughts of a new album until Axl stated possibly this time next year....
Curious what others prefer a tour or a new album.....

Tour

I am a selfish GNR fan so I'll say BOTH! :hihi:

If I had to choose, I'd take a new album over a tour seeing as they rarely come anywhere near me.

Both, of course.

But i think i would prefer a Tour (can't wait to listen to Sorry, Catcher and others Live)

Same here!

LOL. It defeats the purpose of the thread to say both. ha ha.

I say new album please.

ALBUM

Tour

Either

A tour because I want this band to play this music live with a few classics mixed in

An album because I want more new songs

Win-Win baby

Album

New record.

After the fifteen year gap between The Spaghetti Incident and Chinese Democracy, I'm still greedy for new material.

tour this year, a new album for christmas !

Knowing more music will b available, I choose tour first.  I know this sounds skepticle, but if Richard says possible tour to start in late March and to be on the road possibly 2 years,  another album next year ???  In 06 they canceled some of the shows at the end of the tour to resume work on CD. ;)

I think he said something like same time next year. Meaning a new album could be out as soon as at end of 2009.

I don't doubt that they could both tour and put out the album.


Like you might know, Chinese Democracy was held up due to many things. Things that weren't necessarily related to the record itself.


Once you've managed to get through that storm, it's a lot sunnier on the other side and the continued journey is a lot smoother....







/jarmo

2009.
May - warm up in US,
June, July, August - Europe
October, November, December - North America
...
end of November - CDII

2010.
February, March - South America
April, May - Australia, Japan, China... Asia, Africa
...
June, July, August - North America
October, November, December - Europe

 ;D

I think I'd rather see a tour.  I'm really curious to see how they're going to pull off all of these songs live, especially considering how difficult some of the vocals on the new songs would be to sing for Axl night after night (Shackler's, Scraped, etc).  I'm also curious to see who would pick up Robin's guitar parts, although I'm still hoping that Robin picks them up himself!.

well, both will be perfect, but if i had to choose, i'll say tour for summer. and, as axl said, we could expect a new album released at the end of the year. it will be perfect because, for me, a concert for the future with only songs released on chinese and other new albums  would be the best i could imagine.

album by far



does anyone else think they should name one of the next albums Use your illusions III?

I think I'd take a new album, but the memories built by going to a show is also invaluable.  IE/  That whole Monday on 5/15 from Mustang Harry's to getting on line at 3, to meeting all the people who traveled to come to NYC, then the show itself !

If it were totally up to me, I would like a US tour during the summer, and a new album by September.

warm up theatre tour march, april
free stadium shows to all cities affected by riots w/ extended set lists : ok:
summer tour in states, europe
early fall, release next album
tour, tour, and more touring thru 2010

New Years Eve 2010-release 3rd album - if it does exist

hopefully al the legal hurdles have been hurdled :D

probably a tour because I haven't seen the band in over 2 years.  :(

both would be even nicer  ;D

that would suck !  :rant:

what about Canada !?!? :hihi:

tour - absolutely!  we need to hear some of this new material live. 

I was thinking the same thing!!!!!!   : ok:

A tour with bunch of new (unheard) songs  :beer:

             I'd like to see a Tour at the start of the year , a break in the Fall/winter to release a new album of material , and another big tour into 2010. Be nice...

Tour, with Zakk Wylde fillin in for Finck. Or better yet, bring back Buckethead. Bumblefoot's great, but he can't replicate Buckethead's parts.

I could really dig a tour with Zakk  : ok:. I would love it if Robin was there but Zakk would do a great job. But only if they let everyone know that he is just filling in.

Im feeling a bit greedy and wanting a new record and tour. But I guess overall I would want the tour more. As much as I love CD nothing compares to a live GN'R show. Or several GN'R shows.


 :peace:

I say album they have toured the shit out of this album.

Album is the way to go and promote both with a tour in between down time in the studio.

I'll take the album... not that a tour wouldn't be nice. Saw them in 2002 and 2006 in Cleveland... but each of those shows were a mere 2 hours in length (both were amazing)... while an album is FOREVER. So definitely a new album!!!

That's pretty much what I was going to say. I've saw them in both 2002 and 2006 and it was awesome, but I'd way rather have another cd that I can listen to every day instead of seeing a concert.

blame Canada  :hihi: ...

seriously, You didn't really expect me to remember Canada on New Years Day  :P after Old Years Night ... now seriosuly I am sorry and I edited the post  ;) ...


-velimir

Someone puts a gun to my head and asks me this question.

I say album.

Never even thought about that, but I like it ALOT!  : ok:

Why, so they can follow up an album that took over a decade to put out with a retread of one the old band made 18 years ago?

That would go down about as well as diarrhea in a spacesuit.

Tour tour tour!

albums last forever You can enjoy them at home even when you're too old to rock at a 2 hour gig.

zakk wylde is a douchebag.  i wouldnt mind seeing bumblefoot playing all robin's parts and then seeing buckethead return. 

now to answer the question, if i had choose, i would rather see a new album, but there is no reason why both cannot be done this year.

I would like both, but I  prefer a tour. I've never seen them live.

I think a new album in 2009 is unlikely--it would affect sales for CD. A tour is more likely, and I hope they do it so I can see some of the new songs performed live.

I'd like a Grammy's performance more than either at this point. I really think the album needs to get out there more. Imagine Sorry at the Grammy's. Who could possibly follow that? To answer the question, I would rather a tour to promote the album out already which is pure gold.

I would like to hear the music on Chinese Democracy performed live but I feel Axl should go the way of the Beatles and just perfect the music and take that as far as possible. I think there would be a high level of respect if Axl did this as well because really, nobody does this or is capable musically. It was a bold move by the Beatles and it would be for Axl as well.

I say a  new album once again just because, once they release another new album, they can THEN tour and we will get to hear even more new music. so that is a slam dunk.

Less Appetite, more CD and the next album.

So you can complain about them playing songs the audiences don't know?  :P

They could play all of Chinese Democracy on the next tour and you'd find something to complain about.

It's the way to be the "objective fan". Nothing is good enough.

You already know that, before a show has even been announced!






/jarmo

Is any part of what is posted here correct/accurate or is it just pure speculation?

Friday, January 2, 2009

A Likely Scenario

With the BEST BUY exclusive expiring this MAY just in time for the SUMMER FESTIVAL season, it's very likely that we'll see a re-issue of CHINESE DEMOCRACY at that time.

The re-issue will likely feature enhanced artwork, a new booklet, the two alternate covers and ONE ADDITIONAL TRACK.

At this point, ROBIN FINCK and Guns N' Roses will be poised to kick off their tour overseas before returning to the States in August where they may or may not headline LOLLAPALOOZA.

We can also expect Guns to at least schedule a LATE-FALL release for CHINESE DEMOCRACY II (or whatever Axl decides to title it), with an accompanying SHORT US ARENA RUN.

-Mack Arillo

http://chinese-democracy.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post.html

I think Axl mentioned most of those in his posts.





Correct. GN'R may or may not headline that thing.  :rofl:

Seriously! Are there other alternatives? You play or you don't play.






That's what Axl said.


Seems to me like most of this is just putting what Axl said together into one piece and adding some guesses to the mix...




/jarmo

Yes, but what he adds to them?

The Best Buy exclusive expiring in May (six months), US arena run and the additional track?  I may have some more reading to do.  :)

All of those can be guessed.


Six months seems like a reasonable guess for how long the exclusivity is for.

How often do artists re-release albums with bonus content?

A tour? Arenas? Like in 2006? Why not....




/jarmo

Thanks.  I wasn't sure if I had missed something...or if that was the speculation part.  :D

Like I said, to me it looks like he read what Axl posted and added some possible scenarios (guesses) to it.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to come up with the idea that the band might tour in 2009!




/jarmo

I was more interested in if I had missed the part about the BB exclusive and the additional track, but it looks like I did not.  Yes, he is just guessing.  Thanks.

To be honest its been so long since we had new music, I'd take the album. Just to be sure! Especially as Axl saw Chinese Democracy as being a double album, perhaps CD isn't complete yet?

But I 'm also really excited for another tour. Especially if they could play Reading Festival next year. That would be awesome!

As for re-releasing....well naturally anything new gets me excited, but to re-release with new covers and a booklet MIGHT make me feel a little short changed, as if the original wasn't what was intended to go out?

Need need NEED a tour in the UK soon. saw them in 2006 in my home town which was amazing! :peace:
Sod that, I'd even travel to the states to see them :hihi:

That seems to be what Axl was saying - that the release we got was with work-in-progress artwork, unapproved by Axl. Of course, when I suggested this as a possibility a couple of months back, I was shouted down for being 'negative'.

Having already bought the CD, Vinyl, iTunes version (since the mp3 version was inexplicably excluded from the European vinyl) and the overpriced fan pack, I certainly won't be emptying my wallet again just to get the artwork that the disc should have been released with in the first place - I.E. The artwork Axl wanted.

On topic, so long as the songs are of a good quality, I'd always pick a new album of new songs over a tour.

I know what you mean, but we'd love to know if they'll really tour in 2009. The problem is: the band MIGHT tour, but we can't be sure. :(
I'd love to believe in that guy - he said that Robin will tour with Guns - but we're still in the dark. I'm happy, the album's out, but a tour and a video would make the album sell even more... and we'll see the band we love playing live! Well, it'll be a dream. I've never seen Guns live. :(

Yahoo has a story with Fortus clearing up some stuff.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/1/20090105/ten-guns-n-roses-deny-two-year-tour-repo-c60bd6d.html

why the eh? pic? :hihi:

I'm sure Best Buy will be thrilled to hear that the band will begin promoting the album once their exclusive runs out.

Tour!!! Toronto always hears Axl at his best... He loves this city... IMO

Will There Be Another Guns N Roses Album This Year

by Music-News.com - January 6 2009
photo by Ros O'Gorman

There may be another Guns N Roses album this year if you read between the lines in the recent Axl Rose web chats.

Rose has alluded that a follow up to "Chinese Democracy" could soon see the light of day after finally breaking his silence over the long awaited album.

Speaking to various fan forums and message boards, the singer said there was a wealth of material left over which could be released in the near future. "For now we'll concentrate and keep our focus on this album but I will say I've always thought of it as a double," he said.

http://www.undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=7302

Hey they used my question damn it! :rant:

I would just like as much new music as possible.

Tours are cool and all but a tour would be really awesome after another album

Then u could go half new with half old.

The Los Angeles Times has an idea...

Jan 6 2009

After a great deal of thought, I think I have the solution to draw people back here.  We need headliners of an entirely different league who could draw people to Vegas. That is a small and expensive list: Madonna, Guns 'N Roses, Bruce Springsteen or U2. These are just some examples of the sort of acts who could be more profitable doing 10 weeks in Vegas than Criss Angel will be doing 10 years.

http://vegasblog.latimes.com/vegas/2009/01/what-makes-vega.html

10 weeks in Vegas  :o  Jim Bob, how would you like that idea?

Tour damn it,

listened to Riad just now and damn i wanna hear that crusher live! sorry now, and fuck yeah i need to experience that shit :drool:

We've had plenty of tours, I want another album.

haven't had a tour in a year and a half, and that was asia and australia, we had an album not even 2 months ago

I want a tour. I want to see my favorite band play to a rocking crowd outdoors somewhere in my vacinity.

Side question: Is Guns (current lineup) a big enough band in the US to pack a huge  Amphitheatre like Red Rocks in CO or The Gorge in WA? It usually requires touring to these areas during the summer months, but is well worth it due to the venue.

Is managment scared they wont fill it up? They seem to play these types of venues around the world, but stick to areas here in the US. I'm really only referencing tours from 2002 to present, but it seems that way to me.

Why is that?

I would so go broke seeing GnR every single day  :drool:   but what a way to go bankrupt.

I think gigs are set up by booking people.

Promoters and booking agents.

Promoters want to make money on the shows, otherwise they wouldn't book artist X in venue Y.






/jarmo

That would ruin my life! I'd quit my job and spend all my savings...... it'd be awesome  :drool:

Pretty cool idea, but not much use for promoting an album.

A world tour creates a stir (and record sales) everywhere you go. A Vegas residency would only really create a stir in Vegas, I guess.

Similar but different question:

Would you rather the band did a world tour, so you could go see a gig or 3, or stay at home with one special concert that they put out as a proshot DVD?

I would prefer a world tour.

Not only do I get to go see my favorite band, I get to travel and see different parts of my country/world even.

As for the DVD.....I could care less which city it is shot in.  We still get Guns N' Roses performing Guns N' Roses songs.

Sorry, I guess I don't follow.
Gigs are set up by booking agents and promoters, I get that.
Promoters want to make money or else they wouldn't book artist x in venue y, I get that too (I think)

So why has Guns pretty much stuck to indoor arenas etc within the US? Are you saying it just so happens that it's promoters of these types of venues that are pursuing GNR?

Is that what you mean?

I'm assuming promoters book the artist in venues they think will make them the most cash...



I guess it's also about seasons. Last GN'R tours in North America were late in the year.





/jarmo

I'd love to see GNR in the summer in an outdoor venue. The last time I can ever remember them being here (Detroit) in the summer was the GNR/Metallica/Faith No More tour. Ever since then they've always played here outside of summer but always at The Palace.

I would really love to see them in an outdoor summer setting as well. I would travel to catch multiple shows especially if they booked venues like Red Rocks or The Gorge at George. I'm sure there are others, as well.

I think in the grand scheme, the North American leg of a current GNR World Tour would kind of be small potatoes though. I think they draw bigger crowds throughout Europe so summer festivals there are kind of a higher priority. But I can hope though right? 

I think you're right and that totally bums me out. I can totally see many reasons why GNR would rather play overseas first and more often then the US.

I think I'd rather get a new album.

same here i whould like a new album but also i want see them tour aswell

yea but Vegas is like everyone else's second home.  GnR would be a smash in Vegas.

something needs to change in this town because the economy here is going down the shitter faster than most places in the country.

GN'R outdoors or indoors, doesn't matter to me....But I would like to see/hear them tear up Jones Beach...The place goes absolutley nuts when they play WTTJ over the PA....The real thing would be wild..

rather have the follow up myself

I think I can wait until 2010 for a new album but defenetly I wanna see the guys on stage these year!  That would be just great!   ;D

As a new fan, I have to ask... is it really realistic to expect a new album so soon after CD? I mean, that took how many years to come out???

Is it true that this is part of a trilogy? Has Axl himself actually said that?

In the Q&A's on the forums Axl said that he always thought of Chinese Democracy as a double album and that he could envision releasing another album next year around the same time (Nov 09).  Of course in his most recent Q&A with Billboard he said that they weren't really thinking about another album at this time, they were concentrating on Chinese.  So take what you will out of that.  I'd say the material is definitely there, but it was there for many years before CD came out so....

not to nitpick but do you know when ish did 'his most recent Q&A' with Billboard take place? 

I don't think it was ever specified for certain.  I'd assume it was fairly recently.  I don't think Billboard would sit on that for too long.

New Album Please!!!  : ok:

I'm loving Chinese Democracy, but just like when AFD came out Lies came out just over a year later and I remember listening to both of those albums a ton back in the day. Also the UYI albums where released together on the same day as we all know...and again I was aloud to indulge in a shit load of GN'R songs...So in keeping with GN'R lore, I think that Axl should follow the same style as the first time around (AFD/Lies) and put out another album a year after the release of CD. I think it would be awesome to have a band that releases what would seem like a double album everytime they release a record.  :beer:

New album, i prefer listening to new studio stuff (assuming it's good, but hey this is GNR so of course it will be!) rather than live gigs

no it wasn't. (and I find it rather odd)
but seeing as how the rockband thing was still slated for feb 28 then and I was thinking maybe it wasn't that recent and that 's why the date wasn't specified.

It's hard to decide for only one option. The last time I saw Axl Rose it was in 1992, so I have been waiting for a long time; despite today is a almost new line-up, I would love to see Axl Rose live, singing those awesome songs. On the other hand I am looking forward to listening new material, but a new record released this year, would harm Chinese Democracy sales, so I don't think Axl lunch the new record this year. So I guess I would rather the tour, world tour.