Here Today... Gone To Hell!

As a member of another forum, we wonder why jarmo ass licks all the time.   We are aware that Guns n' Roses were once a great band and even though we like chinese Cemocracy we feel that it is not up to par with previous albums.   However Jarmo appears to love everything that the Gunners have done and does not tollerate other saying anything different.   Discuss.

Rumba

How original!


Yes, I certainly love everything GN'R has done. It's my all time favorite band!

I'm a fan.

Imagine that.


I tolerate a lot of things, but I admit that after dealing with this kind of stupidity for a while, some days it can be tough to be friendly to the umpteenth moron who thinks he's original and funny.


Discuss.





/jarmo


PS Merry Christmas.

OMFGZ

HTGTH has been invaded. :P We shall fight them on the beaches etc.

You are worthless turd and so is your dog.

Discuss.

if you don't like something about the CD or G'n'R at the moment i think you can say so and state your opinion with out being an asshole about it or just not talk about it all together. for instance, Prostitute, not my favorite song, frankly i don't much care for it but instead of being a dick and saying to everyone who likes the song that i think it sucks wouldn't be very considerate.

so if you don't like something then go to another board and discuss it there : ok:

Yeah....

People like you are the reason a lot of us prefer to stay at HTGTH with the way jarmo runs it.  Keep all the tools out!

I disagree that CD is 'not up to par with previous albums'.   Perhaps some parts of the album aren't as mindblowing as expected (expect too much and expect to be disappointed!) but CD was not made by the old GN'R.  New people, new ideas, new sound.  Take it to another thread and talk with other fans instead of trolling for attention by insulting jarmo. 

Silly rumba, trying to start a fight. Have a happy Christmas and new year, all the same.

Last I checked I was allowed to post comments that did not praise GNR, and they did not get deleted.

Problem is when people insult others for praising the band or just post hateful stuff about the band.

i took a shit earlier.

It was relieving.

Discuss.

^ Any corn or peanuts?   :hihi: :rofl:

nah.

But i left a rosebud in there for ya  : ok:

I agree!!!

Yeah, the guy only has one post, that says it all. lol.

I think it's a waste of time to post and complain about the band you are a fan of. I don't quite understand it lol.

Merry christmas to all.

Wow, after all these years I finally found the BEST THREAD EVER!  :rofl:

But, This guy having only 1 post makes me suspicious. 
How can he know jarmo so well.  :nervous:
 

Wow, someone who created and maintained a GNR site for over 10 years loves everything GNR has ever done....thats fucking crazy!!! who would have thought?  You are a fucking tool.  My question is why would someone go through the trouble of creating a user name for a site he hates just to post this nonsense?  Why aren't you busy surfing all the other "superior" GNR sites?  I have been coming to this site for over 10 years, this is the best GNR site there is., hands down.

hay there are a few things  on all gnr ablums so far i do not like but i will not go on here or other places and bash them. in messangers i do not forums.

What the fuck is a "nob" ??

i dont know man. i think we should fix the title of this thread.

 :hihi: :hihi:..... :rofl: :rofl:

Wait!.....Let me catch my breath, here!

 :rofl: :rofl:

Greatest thread, ever! 

One post....banned!

WTF is a nob, anyway?!? 

LMMFAO!

The poster obviously needs to go back to school, knob is spelled with a k.

do u guys learn that in school? :hihi:

haha, yeah?
first thing that hit me when I read the thread title was "jarmo is a noob".
go back to school rambo, it sounds like fun! maybe you'll learn to spell boobb correctly as well.

It's interesting how every single person who doesn't like CD is completely fascinated with and question those who do like it, but not vice versa. As if you have to defend and explain yourself for liking something. And it usually goes a little something like this...

A: I like CD.

B: I don't.

A: Ok.

B: Why do you like it?

A: Why do you like anything? I just do.

B cannot fathom this concept and spontaneously combusts (or registers at a different forum than where they usually post just so that they can ask a completely  pointless qustion and probably get banned).

Shut the fuck up you fucking nob.

a male sausage of love.

As members of THIS forum, we wonder why some (but not all) of the other forums allow juvenile pricks who are incapable of a logical point or of rationl discussion to post (witness the above example).  We are aware that those forums have some GREAT posters and mods, and even though we like those forums, we feel many of the posts there are not up to par with those here at HTGTH.  However, people like you appear to love everything about those forums and will not tolerate rational, less confrontational, interaction.

Discuss.

I'm thinking this banned guy won't be responding to these replies any time soon.

And "male sausage of love" is a somehwhat disturbing phrase. Discuss.

what is chinese Cemocracy and your 'we' like and who are the 'we'?  ???

jarmo is noble? ???

Having principles will never get you anywhere in life, Jarmo just realised that sooner than the rest of us and as a result got his name in the CD credits

somebody has too much time on their hands.

Cute.


My principles differ a lot from yours.

Whining about shit I have no control over doesn't make me a happier person.....


That's the main difference.



Also, I don't intend to let a bunch of cry babies decide how I should run my site.

Another principle I have......

I've yet to understand how a fan site is supposed to be a breeding ground for a bunch of people who love nothing other than to put down the band/artist they're "fans" of in order to make a name for themselves online.







/jarmo

Of course you would know that.  : ok:

you mean fan forums aren't supposed to consist of people bitching day after day about trival shit and they aren't supposed to include people who are no longer actual fans of the band??  :o

Jarmo, thank you for this forum.  I've been here 5 years and absolutely love it.  Keep up the great work. 
A "nob."  :rofl:  Intelligent guy.  :hihi:

a nob?

(http://architective.co.uk/images/wood%20door%20knob.jpg)

Jarmo gets touched by a lot of people.  :o

he's been used way too many times

Must be tough on someone to get twisted, turned and pulled on all the time by complete strangers.

Total nob ^

That knob needs to be cleaned with Windex.  : ok:

Noun: nob
Usage: Brit

1. An elegantly dressed man (often with affected manners)

what a stupid thread. everyone should take care of his shit before taking care of other's.

and jarmo is a man, i would have closed this thread and banned immediately the guy who opened, because if you start the board-life with a message of this kind, you wanna just break balls.

LOL. Yeah, stop breaking balls already.  :rofl:

Nothing to do with the subject of the thread, but I was wondering ... Jarmo, what do you do for a living ? What's your job ?

Jim Bob, we have argued a bout this for years it seems

my complaint is, Jarmo and u and some others think u have to 100 percent think everything Axl/GNR does is great,amazing out of  this world awesome in order to be a fan.

If I say I think CD was a bad first single and Im not a huge fan of "better" my shit gets deleted and I am painted like I am not a fan which is ridiculous.

I think you can be a fan and still be objective and still hold that band accountable.

Jarmo told me once how he wishes I supported GNR like I did Bon Jovi

well........ I have criticized Bon Jovi probably more than I have Guns N Roses over the years. I have criticized Jon's voice and the fact he smokes and doesn't take care of it therefore he can't hit the high notes anymore, I bitched about the country album, the ultra poppy B-Side song. I blew a gasket when they did American Idol.....


so my point is, you don't have to be a blind overzealous fan that worships and agrees with everything a band does.

Chinese Democracy is a great CD, It isn't the greatest musical masterpiece ever made like we are suppose to believe and I don't love every song on it, but hell, anymore, I don't even comment because of the "u gotta love everything" or u get deleted policy. Also, people will take that as "you are not a fan if you dare have any sort of negative opinion.

I can say how I love this solo and that solo, but if I say I think this solo over here isn't very good, all of a sudden I am not a fan or what have you.


Axl going on MyGNR and the other forum so much makes me think he really doesn't give a shit if someone doesn't like something, hell, he himself said he understood people liking certain other things etc.

Ohh it's a masterpiece all right.   I don't like certain things Axl has done over the years - but that doesn't take anything away from the album.
I was talking with with my cousin at a Christmas party and he said the album has symphonic guitar playing and I agree.  We both can't wait to hear this thing live!! :headbanger:
we want Axl to play the thing from start to finish.

read what I wrote, I said it isn't the greatest ever made.

Didn't say it wasn't awesome. : ok:

Your complaint is valid but unfortunately for you, it's uninformed and wrong.

You can call yourself a GN'R fan even if you don't like a single GN'R song. I couldn't care less.



Now, here's the deal, I wouldn't want a bunch of those fans on this board polluting it with their negativity.

By the way, in most cases their whining offers nothing in a way of a discussion.

How do I know this? Because I've seen it.


Talking shit about something they know nothing about, or just whining about something that's not even true to begin with, just doesn't interest me.




Yes, I agree, my definition of a fan is probably a bit different from many of you.

I don't sign up on fan sites to post shit about the artists I'm a fan of. It makes very little sense to me.

I don't look for faults in everything because I'm scared to be called a "fan boy" if it appears like I'm liking something "too much".

I'm not scared of not being "objective".

I don't care if it's laughable that I like everything GN'R has done or that I still get goose bumps when seeing them in concert.








Oooh, so that must mean it's ok to whine about the set list for every show you don't attend....







Yes, it was a little dig at you because it seems like you have a lot of complaints about GN'R while you're busy saying how awesome everything else is in Bad Obsession section.

 :-*




/jarmo

"hold them accountable?"

what are we, fans or their parents?  :P

I want some of what you're smokin D.   No one said you had to agree with everything or like every single song.

Apparently, if you think these whiny fans are wrong and they should just go post somewhere else, you think you're better than them.


It's kinda amusing (or sad, depending on how you see it) how they'll twist shit around.

If I say to one person "you're not a fan" because that person doesn't show any of the "signs" that makes a person a fan, then suddenly I've labeled a whole group of people and I'm evil!

It's the same with anybody who dares to speak out against them.

Band members, people who work for the band or fans. If you say something to one person, it'll get twisted around into meaning "they don't care about their fans".






/jarmo

It's another word for dick.English people tend to use it :hihi:

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Everybody gets a turn!

fo sho!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought it was an unerected penis :hihi:

Jarmo is just a _very_ enthusiastic fan to me, not sure what the problem to the OP is. :P

 

Not blonde enough to be noble!

That is your opinion. You don't speak for everyone.

i'm a long time member of another forum, i don't know jarmo, so i don't have a problem with the man personally, he gets a hard time from alot of people, which isn't cool.  the problem i once had with this forum was it wasn't a forum, people couldn't have opinions, well they could....if you agreed with the mods. forums are a place for discussion and opinions, good or bad, like it or not. now i also understand it's jarmos site, so he can do what he wants, but it just makes other forums look better in my opinion.

Distust!. 

Other sites do what they do, we do what we do.


We have a simple policy. We support and respect the band that this site is about.

It's not really a weird concept.


It's all about integrity at the end of the day.

I could not stand for a site that was a breeding ground for negativity and/or hate.

I'm just not interested to be "the guy who runs that site that's constantly bashing the band".

To be associated with that kind of shit does not interest me.



So I get made fun of, insulted, ridiculed, discredited and so on. Whatever.

At least I can say that I'm part of running a site that supports GN'R and is trying to bring something positive to the table instead of worrying about my personal online "image".





/jarmo

No, see that's YOUR idea of how a forum should be run.  Great.  There are plenty of "less modded" forums out there...and if there is a topic or opinion you'd like to share that doesn't meet the guildlines made clear by the mods HERE...you should by all means go to one of those forums to "vent" on that topic or opinion.

YOU are allowed to HAVE any opinion you want.  To discuss any topic you want.  Just maybe not HERE.  That doesn't make this forum "worse" or "better".  It makes it different.  I LIKE the way the forums here are modded.  It keeps things cleaner, more on topic, with a lot less extraneous "noise".  Are there verboten topics that I sometimes want to discuss?  Sure.  Do I bitch and moan at jarmo to change his site, or tell him he's a nob, or do any number of other completely unhelpful and non-constructive things?  No...I use the little bar that tops my browser, type in the address to another site, and go there.

I don't make a big deal of it.  I don't cry and moan and stomp my feet, or draw attention to myself when I do it.  I don't sit here and put links to those topics in my HTGTH posts.  I just go and do it.  I go "play" somewhere else for a little while.  I doubt jarmo is insulted by it.  :)

Again, that doesn't make that site "better", IMHO.  Because to discuss that topic, I usually have to wade through about 20 duplicate topics, 10 "the old band was better" discussions, and a bunch of extraneous information that I either don't care about, or aren't pertinent to the topic I'm really looking to discuss.  That's not my cup of tea, on a day to day basis.  Doesn't make that site worse, either...just different.  Some people really prefer that "freeform", no holds barred, style of discussion.  Bully for them.

I'm not sure why people have such a hard time with this.  At the end of the day..and I sound like a broken record on this...there is one simple fact:  Jarmo's yard, Jarmo's rules.  If you don't like them...don't bitch, don't moan, don't insult him, don't create a ruckus, or form a useless protest (which nobody cares about, FYI).   You're not fighting the good fight, or making a difference, or effecting change, or anything else useful or productive.  Just go do your business elsewhere, where you'll be much happier.  If enough people agreed with you...the place would become a ghost town, and there'd be no posts to bitch about, anyway.  It's happened to other GnR forums, over the years....as it's happened to THOUSANDS of other forums and message boards on the net.

Of course, the "counter" argument when I make that point is:  "But HTGTH has more posters than anywhere else, so that's where I like to post".  Which just makes my point for me, at the end of the day.  Seems jarmo's rules aren't nearly as heinous, horrible, or bothersome as some people would have you believe.

Heard about freedom of expression? Hm :yes:

Creating a forum-atmosphere like Jarmo does is considered that. A decision which is a lesser of some evils.

Well, you are kinda wrong. I saw a few posts being deleted because they weren?t exactly a new GNR praise. So i guess, freedom of opinion is not all that free.

There is no new GN'R.

This is a GN'R site. Pretty simple.



Looking at your avatar, personal text and signature, it's quite apparent this site is not suitable for you.

You got the freedom to fuck off if it bothers you that we live in the present.





/jarmo

Jarmo, that sounds an awful lot the makings of a pretty mean lyric...in the style of Get In The Ring perhaps?  I'm thinking "Gary Busey came to rehab, but he claims he aint a resident" for the next verse...for some reason it comes off Rage Aginst The Machine in my head though... :hihi:

Anyway, I got tired of seeing this topic pop up in 'unread posts' without having any idea what a NOB is...can someone help me out?  I am always willing to agree/disagree, but I am just confused in this instance.

fair enough, after all it's your site, and yeah it is positive, i'm sure gnr thank you for it.

the mods run around insulting people on this site all the time, i hope you warn yourself lol, looks like you guys love those online images?!, i could be wrong.

 
shazam!  :peace:

Freedom of speech (as in, the right granted to you in the constitution of the United States), opionion, etc have ZERO to do with a privately owned, privately operated forum on the internet.  Zero.

I'm not sure why people think it does.....

Not really, but I guess it could be seen as insulting when somebody comes here to start shit and I'm not welcoming that person with open arms.

I will also tell you when I think you're wrong. Some people can't handle that because they're always right....




/jarmo

All those are valid points on the other page I am too lazy to quote at the moment.

My definition of message forums are places for people to debate different things.

If everyone agreed or shared the exact same views, message forums would be ghost towns.

I do agree about people who post just for the sake of hating or being negative. Those people should get the fuck out, but there have been a whole lot of times though, where any constructive criticism  is either deleted or just attacked.

Jim Bob you talked about are we fans or parents, but the way you post in the VR section or how u attack anything non GNR related, makes me think you act more as a parent than a fan.

If I say I don't like something, I would love that to be respected and have a nice debate/conversation about why I don't like it instead of being labeled or treated like I am a troll or hater because I don't like a certain something.


I can say I think Robin does awesome on the Better and SOD solos, but if I say I hate his TIL solo, u or someone will think I am hating on him cause he isn't "Slash" or whatever when all I am doing is giving my honest opinion on something.



the bands in the Bad Obsession I praise more for different reasons. 

1. I make way more GNR  posts so there is a much better chance of something being negative

2. I don't hold NIN to the same standard as GNR for instance as I am a casual NIN fan, I buy the Cd's but I'm not emotionally invested in them. So if they release a single or don't do this or that, I really don't care because I don't consider myself an enormous fan and the same goes for most of the other bands I praise.

I don't get negative about Bon Jovi and other bands on here cause there is enough from other members, so I just try and show them where they are wrong. just like if a bunch of people were wrong and saying stuff about GNR that wasn't true, I'd be the first to correct them or try to show them where they are wrong.


I can assure u though, I posted on a Bon Jovi forum www.keepinthefaith.co.uk for a long time and I had more than my share of criticisms.

This thread doesnt really have a topic so. im going to ask.

Do the fans on the Bon Jovi forum boards have two sides, those that complain the newer material sucks cause it doesnt rock, n those that are all "move with the times mannn" n love the band still?

Probably

I don't post on any other band forum but GNR...... but I am sure all message forums are the same.

Hell, I saw two threads on Metallica's forum where people called Lars the worst drummer ever. :hihi:

I wonder what the thinking behind those threads are?

Seriously.

I could maybe understand it on a Megadeth board....





/jarmo

It is untelling, maybe the Napster thing still has people pissed.

I did post on a RHCP message forum some and that forum was more like this one where u didnt see a lot of negativity.

I think u also have to factor that Axl is a pretty polarizing figure also which also leads to a lot of the discussions etc.

Has their ever been a more polarizing rock star than Axl in music history?

im surprised people over at the RHCP forums dont complain about how soft the guys music has been for the last 15 years.

Oh yeah, nothing will ever top BSSM. That is just how people are. I personally like BTW and SA better but yeah, u hear some grumblings of the softer/mellowish stuff.

Why does this table tennis continue ??? ;)

because people are bored.

Not having been answered as to what exactly a 'Nob' is...I took it upon myself to Google it:

Nob is a village mentioned in the Book of Judges

Nob may also refer to:

Nob, Israel, a place in the vicinity of Jerusalem
Non-occluded baculovirus, a genus of virus
Newell's Old Boys, a popular football team from Rosario, Argentina
NOB, Nederlandse Onderwatersport Bond, (Dutch Underwater sports Union), a broadcast facility company in the Netherlands
NOB, a branch of the international diving organization CMAS in Holland.
Nobuo Yamada, a Japanese singer better known as NoB
Nob Yoshigahara, a Japanese puzzle-maker
NOB, Narodno-osvobodilna borba - Yugoslav people's national liberation struggle during World War II
National Liberation War of Macedonia, a regional offensive of the Yugoslav People's Liberation War
Nob: the glans (or "head") of the penis, commonly used in the United Kingdom. Sometimes used as a insult.

I can only assume that the writer is using the UK connotation 'sometimes used as an insult'...in the states we use the more descriptive "Dick-Head", so as to avoid any misunderstanding.  That being the most probably case, I must disagree with the premise of this thread.  Jarmo is not a 'Nob'.  Jarmo is the owner/administrator of one of the, if not the best, GnR boards...if you don't like it, post elsewhere...very simple.  If you want to excercise your right to free speech - start your own website, and spend hours a day doing battle with people who are just there to agitate.

Maybe if you bothered reading the previous posts in this thread....

(http://a6.vox.com/6a00bf76d09e10438300c2251debfe8e1d-500pi)

Who'd have thought that a thread calling the owner of the site a "nob" could last 4 pages??

it has a hook - a nob. 

Which one are you calling a nob because I don't like it either way! :rant: