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You can't vote for Axl cause that would be the obvious choice :no:. Give your reason as to why also. Make it interesting.

My vote is for Buckethead. His solo's on this record are amazing. His solo's are all so different and all so damn amazing in their own way. The solo in Sorry is beautiful.

standout's are on Sorry, Prostitute and TWAT. :drool:

Robin Finck   Why you ask ? Two reasons: Better, This I Love solo.

The new management team...

they did the impossible and that was to pave the way to release the damn album.

Dr. Pepper..........M-isevaluated V-ultures P-ittiful   :rofl:

Alright seriously it's really hard to center it down to a MVP because the whole cd offers so much from everyone its hard to narrow it down. Even the drummers and keyboard players added their golden touch to this album. Not to mentioned that the sound of this cd reminds me of the quality the engineers use to obtain from those 24-track reel to reel machines back in the days of the early 70's . (Prime example is Darkside of the Moon by P/F.) The engineers did a fantastic job on the recording. Did you noticed the difference from the Use your Illusions cds and C.D.? (Not to say Use Illusion was recorded poorly but I think the quality of this cd went one step furthur........: )

Marco Beltrami

Those arrangements can send shivers down Dick Cheney's spine.

God , for creating man...

first of all axl didn't do that, i've met people way older then axl, second we weren't allowed to nominate him because he would be the "obvious choice"

that's silly we all know there is no god

I was talking about George Carlin.  

Paul Tobias.

Without Paul, there would be no more Guns N' Roses. (Axl, 01.15.01 -  Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)

"God has all the powers in the world...he can do anything he wants...but for some reason he always needs your money"

hahahaha  Carlin was hilarious...(of course that blurb was not verbatim...only what I remember...which clearly isn't much haha)

Brain Mantia=MVP

Robin Finck. First guitarist I've heard since Slash that moves me when he plays. The rest are great guitar players, but his playing is leagues above them in feeling. I like Richard Fortus too, but it's hard to capture what he's playing on the album unless someone points it out to me.

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Axl for getting something great out of these musicians.

And yes I can vote for Axl. :peace:

Finck.

The drums make alot of the songs on the album.  :beer:

 ;D

True words.

Dizzy Reed. cause I like Dizzy.

Buckethead

Bucket.   Without a shadow of a doubt.

I always though I'd take or leave him, but he's done some stunning work.

agreed...  we all owe them a big thanks!

Actually Axl's 1st public thanks to Paul was 01/01/01 in Vegas...
B-Foot is my fav., but I'm not sure how much o' CD he played on..He did state that he dirtied the album up because it was to robotic, so co-MVP would go to the tandum of Fink N' B-Foot....But it appears Chris Pitmann co-wrote quite a bit......and those keyboard sound effects are monster..How can we 4get Dizzy N' the General Stinson...

Chris Pittman

pitman

I'd go with Finck. I never figured a (former?) Nine Inch Nails guitarist could make the adjustment to a more melodic band, but he fit in quite well.

Pitman. He adds a lot of  the depth to CD.

Axl.  Everyone else can be replaced, and someone trained to passably imitate them...find someone who sounds like Axl.  Writes like Axl?  Works a croud into a frenzy like Axl?  This in no way denigrates the achievements of the rest of the band.  The album is awesome because of 8-12 guys...but those 8-12 guys wouldnt be there if it were not for Axl.

Musicians who appear on the album?  Bucket (who largely defines the guitar sound of the album), followed by Pitman.

Anyone involved in the album?  Management, for making sure that I get to hold it in my hands right now.     :beer:

pitman without a doubt.

I didn't have time to elaborate in my earlier post because I was at work, but I'll say it again: Dizzy Fucking Reed. Co-wrote Street of Dreams, There Was A Time (IMO best song on the album) and I.R.s.

He stayed with Axl throughout the whole thing. Which I'm sure Axl greatly appreciated. He's just one hell of a musician too. Check out his new solo stuff on his site.

He played the Chinese Democracy release party at the Hard Rock here in Vegas. He mentioned how proud he was of the album, because the band poured their heart and soul into it.

All around great guy.

BTW: I'll post pictures from the show when I get them developed. I bought a disposable camera because I wasn't sure if I could bring one in. He also signed my copy of Chinese Democracy and told the crowd that that was the first one he's signed :) 

Dizzy and Chris were probably the biggest surprises when looking at the credits.   Honorable mention to Paul Tobias.

But I don't really think there is an MVP, every guy played his role and added something special to THE album of the 21st century.

Buckethead. His work on TWAT gave me chills.

Robin Finck. Before joining Axl N? Roses he was a decent player, but not very versatile. Now, he has shwn he can play more than Nine Inch Nailish guitar.

Buckethead hands down.

Buckethead,
his work on twat, and the whole album in general merits the title of guitar god..

The twat solo leaves me will chills every time I listen to it

Brain Mantia.

I believe he made this album so much fun to me with the work he did. But, there are a lot of stand-outs on this. I mean I love Tommy Stinson's work especially on Better.

Buckets best work and Brains best work
is on the song twat, good to see 2 old friends just playing with all they have on that song, it comes across really well. :peace:

 im goin with Mr. Finck, with Bach in a close second...... :hihi:

Buckethead. No question.

Some of the, if not the best guitar work ever heard within the confines of a GN'R album.

Caram Costanzo for seemingly placing his name in every possible location in the liner notes.

Robin Finck

Buckethead and Bumblefoot have some jaw-droppingly incredible solos- but it's Robin's soulful, heartfelt, emotion-filled playing that makes this a true Guns N' Roses album IMHO. He channels a "Slash" feel w/o being a blatant rip off- and he has his own modern sound too. Robin was the absolute right guitarist to match up with Axl at this point in Axl's career IMHO. I really pray Axl finds a way to get him on-board for the next tour.

ALL the guitarists have great moments on this album though. : ok:

Robin steals the show. His solos are so emotionally powerful, and his guitar is the equivalent to Axl's voice, they meld so well. Awesome guy, though everyone really shines throughout...

I don't know if I'd give him the "MVP"... but I was suprised to see "Tobias" under my 3 favourite songs on the album:  TWAT, Catcher in the Rye & Prostitute.

Dizzy Reed....for being the only one to stay loyal after all these years...

Hard to believe in just a couple years he'll be hitting his 20 year anniversary as a gunner.

from a songwriting standpoint: Paul Tobias

from a musical standpoint: Finck followed closely by Brain : ok:

Izzy.

If he hadn't gone to LA, none of this would ever have started and axl could have become a farmer who all we know.

The fans get my vote hands down!  ;D

Axl and Bucket.  Ron gets the "6th man" award, he came in during the fourth quarter and did some great things in the clutch  :hihi:

Buckethead, Paul and Pitman are the MVP's of CD *Axl is the given of course*


Ron is a cool guy but I do prefer Bucket's playing to all the other guys. when he shreds, u hear every note and it takes u places emotionally that most shredders dont. He also can knock out the amazing If The World style and the Sorry solo which is amazing.

I always thought Bucket was the one guy who could make people get over the top hatted icon that once held the post.

That being said, If the guys no longer chose to be in GNR, there is nothing Axl could do about it, so it definitely isn't his fault.
u can't make somebody stay if they dont want to.

Chris Pitman. The dude really knows how to use synths.

The main vote goes to Axl.  For sure..


I would have strong second place for Mr. BuckeHead.  He wrote some very strong music on this album.  GNR was lucky to have him.

Buckethead :headbanger:

I second that. : ok:



The Bucket owns.

Buckethead.  He really really impressed me on this album.  Bucket's work and the drumming made this a monumental album.  That's not taking into account the writing of the songs, just the performance :)

Axl, Bucket, Tobias and Pitman.

Gold. Silver. Bronze.

I went with Finck (above)... but some of you guys are right... Bumblefoot is definitely worthy of an "honorable mention". He really sleazed up a bunch of these tracks (in classic GN'R fashion) with some phenomenal rhythm work. Great solos on "Shackler's Revenge" and "Riad & The Bedoins" too...

I dunno. The original Rhiad solo was damn good before Thal did anything. Bucket should get as much credit as Bumble.

The Shackler's solo probably was a re-do of Bucket's work as well.

The Buckethead solo on "Riad" was definitely good already- BUT I actually prefer Bumblefoot's new solo though. : ok:

Ron & Bucket

Any Buckethead album will impress anyone.

Buckethead: although I don't consider this to be his best work... I actually prefer some of his solo albums (like Giant Robot) to Chinese Democracy.
I hope his stuff will still be used on the two upcoming albums.

Elephant Man's Alarm Clock. 'Nuff said.

Electric Tears is Buckethead's best solo album, hands down.

Finck/Buckethead co-MVPs

Tough call

For the album Id go with Axl for the gold, bucket and robin for the silver, and pitman for the bronze

The bands MVP is Tommy and Pitman. Tommy has held down the fort all of these years and has been loyal to the band even though he almost drifted.

How can Ron be an MVP over anyone accept Frank? He didnt write one note for the album!

Buckethead & Brain!
too close to call.

I dunno dude, that's a tough call, esp. with Colma.

But without a doubt, Bucket gets my MVP award.  He just fucking rips it in so many tracks (mainly Better and TWAT).

brain and chris.

Hands down - Buckethead

I can't believe I'm saying this, Buckethead for his "Sorry" solo.

prairieboy,

Great call! Not my absolute favourite, but the four part beast that is Lurker at the Threshold alone propels it pretty high. I'd currently rate it around my third or fourth favourite album of his.

As a massive fan of the Bucket, he has to get my vote. I couldn't believe my luck when I heard that so much of his stuff had been left on the album. I'd be almost as excited to see Bucket and Axl on stage together again as I would be to see Gilmour and Waters !!

... Well. That may be hyperbolic. But you get my point.

Completely agree.  I'd love it so much if he was a fucking special guest or something on the next tour, even if he just came out for Riad.

toss up. Finck or Brain.

because they have the most playing time on the record. Even though Brain got erased from track 1.

Buckethead, I don't like the Bucket on his head, but his guitar work speaks for itself. He gave CD it's edge.

Axl Rose....he's the one who gives this album its edge...

Without Axl this album wouldn't exist.


But since this is about the people other than Axl....

I can't say.

The way I see it, is that it's a team effort and without even one team member, it wouldn't be the same album.





/jarmo

picking a non-axl mvp from chinese democracy is like picking the best brick in a building.  sure, they all contribute to the big picture, but really it's about the architect's vision, passion and genius.  any brick can work perfectly fine as long as the architect knows how to be brilliant and amazing.

Sure its a team effort, but just like team sports, an MVP is named eventhough the entire team is involved. I gotta say Chris and the Bucket for co-mvp, with honor mention to robin (if not tri-mvp!)

it's funny/ironic how you disagree with the "team effort" MVP concept then proceed to pick a Tri-MVP.  :hihi:
If Axl wasn't a gimme, would you have picked a quadruple-MVP?  :rofl: 


MVP (IMO):  Pitman  : ok: