Here Today... Gone To Hell!

You son of a bitch! You are my new favorite drummer. No disrespect to that Bonham guy, but the way you hit that shit, especially the snare, resonates in the happy part(whatever that's called) of my gray matter. All that need be said, is wow! Thanks, man. :beer:

Brain's drumming is sick.  He's got a style all of his own and sounds insane on the tubs.  Can't wait to see him live in '09!!

Yep hes one of the best.

hahahahahahaha,

sorry, im night shift and that's some funny shit

I love Brain, he's a strong, solid drummer, love listening to him.

Unfortunately there's no word of Brain coming back for a future GNR tour at this time..

At this point, Brian is probably just as likey to be in the band next year as Robin is. Which is unfortunate in both cases.

well at least brain told me
that he wants to tour with GNR if they call him up

What do you think the best Brain moment on CD is?

I love his drumming on "Scraped" and "Shacklers", heavy with a solid groove. The end of "Sorry" is great too.

I'm looking at the drummer position as a win win situation since we'll get either Brain or Frank, I like them both.

I say Shackler's

well  IMO!!     BRAIN left for family reasons, so once he was out he doesnt get paid, which means he's not a member at the moment.......same situation with ROBIN, he's left to do NIN for a while.........im sure that once there officially back on the bill there names will be back on the line up list : ok: : ok:

look at the credits on the album for fucks sake :hihi:   everything wont be dealt with half arsed!!

when ROBIN finishes NIN....he's name will be back on the line up!! : ok: : ok:

im sure BRAIN will have his fare go too!!

I am confused about the Brain situation, moreso because of his relationship with Bucket. I personally would be beyond excited to see both B&B take the stage with Axl next year. Thal and Frank are fine but Bucket and Brain were going to be stars.

Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets filled first. Brains name wasn't on the band members list on Gunsnroses.com. Nothing against Frank but Brain is the only one who should be sitting in Stevie's chair.

listening more today- -- I really like the Rhiad drums... they sound spectacular!

Neither was Pitman.

And I agree. Brain rules.

Now you are grasping at straws. There is no question that Pitman is in the band. There is regarding Brain.

They posted a list of the band members and Pitman wasn't on it. If someone's going to refer to the list to say Brain's out, then the list also says Pitman is out. It's either relevant or it isn't.

Became a huge fan of Brain when I heard Primus' Brown album in 97, & loved his work with Bucket...

But his drums on Chinese is his best work ever!!! Brain is by far the most talented drummer GNR ever had.

Hope to see him on 09 tour!  :beer:

Yeah, Brain is a good drummer and the best GNR has had, but Frank is still highly preferable to Matt 'I look like a fat lesbian' Sorum or Steven 'I can't play anymore, but please let me back in the band, Axl' Adler.

The "Thank Yous" part of the booklet

Brain would like to thank: Christ, Viagra, and The Right To Chose

 :rofl: :rofl:

Pitman was never out. We have no indication that Brain is coming back at all. I know he played shows without him but I think Brain and Bucket are a package deal. Since GNR will need a third guitarist ,why not bring them both back?

welcome to the "Brain is te best and most underrated drummer in the world" fanclub!
Ive personally been in the club since Primus' Antipop.

I'm with you, he is my new god  : ok:

I just wish the drums were higher in the mix, at times they seem buried.

I really hope he comes back for the tour, I've never had a chance to see him play live with GNR. If him and Bucket came back for the tour I'd be delirious.

wow that was unnecessary.

But true. Matt Scrotum is a colossal douche, and unfortunately Popcorn will never kick the spaghetti habit... even after it's all but killed him.

Brain has stood out on this album - it's impossible to deny

His work on Prostitute alone is a fucking clinic

Nice job

The end of Catcher in The Rye is great too.

Brain is way better than Frank.

I really love Frank, but Brain is Brain!

I concur!!!   :beer:

I agree.

listinging to the album the first thing I noticed was the stunning drums.
Big love to Brain! :love:

Yeah, you son of a bitch, you just had to quit didn't you? Well hopefully you come back...

I'll agree with pretty much everyone else here. Frank is a great guy, and a great drummer, but Brain is for sure the best drummer GNR's ever had in the band.

and mine  :D

Sincerely I don't like Mantia that much.

I don't know...I never liked him. The 'Paycheck' incident, the "their disc" in a magazine (reffering to "Chinese Democracy" as "their disc"), the stupid thanks on "Chinese Democracy"...I don't know. I hope Frank Ferrer would be the drummer in the forthcoming tour.

geez, I wouldn't wanna pull your chain..

oh please

that is why he played drum parts written by someone else.

he is very able.  :yes:
 and whether the 'someone else' can play the drum parts written by Brain is quite doubtful.

it wasn't his choice, Axl liked the drumparts the way they were.
that he can make someone elses parts sound so good says a lot. besides, not everything was written by Freese. Brain did his stuff on several of the songs as well, and he added stuff to songs already done by Freese. check the song credits dude.
I'm sure on the rumored 2 following albums, there will be no more of Freese's stuff left, and I don't think Axl will want Frank on every track either, since Brain is a much better and versatile drummer.
he's even credited as a song writer on 2 tracks on the album. that's never happened in GN'R before (outside of CD and Freese).
I think Axl is very excited to have such an amazing drummer playing in his band. (Frank is not bad either, don't get me wrong people!)

i have a mixed opinion.  on one hand, his drumming is great.  but on the other hand, he bailed on axl and the band for selfish reasons.  i understand he wants to be around his newborn kid, but come on... how long did he need?  to me, it looks like just used his kid as an excuse because he could have come back for more shows later.  he could put out a statement like 'i love working with axl and gnr.  i need X days to spend with my child, then i'm back 100% behind the greatest rock band and the greatest front man ever.'

instead... silence. 

and frank even re-recorded some drums!  i mean come on, if he really was as passionate about this music as he should be he would have put his foot down and been like 'no way, these songs are my lifeblood.  if axl wants more drumming done, i'll get off my duff and do it myself!"  but he didn't.  he just shrugged.  its like he doesn't even really care that much anymore to me.

You are trying to tell me Josh Freese couldn't play Brain's parts?

U gotta be kidding me.


The drumming on CD is great, don't get me wrong, but I haven't heard anything that any decent drummer couldn't pull off.

u gotta listen harder Donnie.
imo, Brain is abolutely a better drummer than Freese.

Brain is brain.
Do you know exactly what bits are written by freese?


 ???
Care to elaborate on the selfish reasons for his not having come back after x days?

Im not trying to doubt what you say

maybe he is better, but that doesn't mean Freese would be unable to play his parts. Maybe it wouldn't have the same 'feel' etc. but Im sure he could play the parts.

There are gonna be cover/tribute people all around the world playing those parts, So I highly doubt a guy as talented as Freese would be unable to play anything written by anyone.

the way i see it, chosing to spend time laying around the house with your family is a selfish choice.  if he put the music and axl above his own needs, he would have finished the tour.  there woul dhave never been a chance for a harder worker to come in and rerecord some of his stuff.

My thing is, this is the 21st century, u got mega tour busses, private jets.

Bringing your family on the road for a couple of months wouldn't have been that hard. Hell, there are plenty who do that.

It is his choice though. I mean I miss Bucket and everyone else also but i will support who ever does the gigs.

LOL. Yeah, work is more important in my eyes.

But, it's not really up to us, it's up to Brain.

It came down to putting his child a priority over GNR. I'd make the same choice as he did. I can't judge Brain since it is a pretty personal decision. However, if he goes on a long tour away from his family with another band, then I'd question his judgment and motives.

so support brain when he does the gigs, will you.
BTW I believe freese never did a GNR gig.

exactly.  i see his kid as an excuse, pure and simple.  if brain still believed in the band and the music, he would have found a way to make it work.  plus, when he got off the tour with gnr he played with bucket's projects and i think even recorded stuff.  wtf?  "sorry axl, i'm too busy to make music with you... but i got plenty of time for my pal bucket!" 

look, i love the guy's skills.  he's awesome.  i just question his commitment and loyalty.  but whatever.  he made his bed, and now he's gotta sleep in it.  when the tour starts, frank will end up getting all the acclaim and fans. 

Its not like GNR went on a year long tour or something. It was just a few months right?

He acting like it was the UYI 3 year tour or something.


I support Brain if he is the drummer. If its Frank, then I support Frank.

however you've stated....

???

Staying home and helping your partner with a newborn baby is about as unselfish as it gets. Good for him. : ok:

Totally agree with you, I really admire Brain for that, and I would have done the exact same thing.

IMO Brain is the best drummer GN'R have ever had. :peace:

I would certainly disagree but  I don't want to go where that argument would lead.

He had been in Guns N' Roses for a long time - maybe he decided he wanted to do something new? Bear in mind he wasn't given that much creative freedom with guns, as he was mostly playing parts written by Adler, Sorum and Freese. Playing with Buckethead gives him a better chance to come up with his with his own stuff, which is much more interesting for most musicians. He obviously did get to write stuff with Guns (Sorry and Shacklers) but he still didn't have as much freedom as he may have liked. Thats ok for a short period, but he had been in the band for a long time (5/6 years?).

Thats not a criticism of Axl or anything, but what is required of being in this band, doesn't suit every musician.

His playing on CD is great though!

I wasn't the one who said Freese won't be able to play Brain's parts. Im quite sure he could, but Im also quite sure I wouldn't like them as much.

I completely understand him taking time off when his baby is newborn and staying home for a while.
as far as I understand it, he wasn't interested in touring again after that till the album came out.
Im sure he would love to get a call from Axl saying he's welcome to join them on tour now that the album is out, and Im sure he would join them too.
but with the situation being the way it is, I wouldn't be surprised if Frank is the only one getting that call.
I think Brain will still be satisfied with the work he's done with GN'R, then and move on with his countless other projects.

I dont see how anyone can blame Brain for staying at home. Its obvious that Frank was doing a good job on the tour, so the band didnt need him at that time, so his leave of absence was extended. Theres nothing selfish about it on either side.

Brain is a terrific drummer... but Josh is considered one of the best drummers of all time. Why? Because he is sought out by everyone. Look at his resume... enough said.

Steve Vai is more famous than Shawn Lane, but he couldn't handle a candle to Lane. Still, he's more famous and everyone praises him... several people consider him one of the best of all time.

There's also no specific detail of the parts of the song Brain did when he shares the track with Frank, and vice versa. Even though Frank only does one song solo, the title track, its the songs the two drummers split that you can't really distingush what part is by which drummer.

I can mostly hear what's Brain and what's Frank. but I don't have the time to sit down, listen through th songs and write it up here who plays when.

The fact is he didn't write the drum parts for the album, so this remark means nothing in regard to GNR.

not even the ones where he's even listed as a songwriter?
come on. from hearing leaks, he's clearly made new editions to Freese songs.
and I would guess about 5 of the songs on the album are songs Freese had never anything to do with, so...all Brain.

Sorry, but Stevie sold his chair for crank. Brain would be filling MATT's chair...

Matt took his chair with him to Stone Temple Revolver. I guess that makes it Freese's chair?

Let's all say that the chair belongs to both Frank and Brain. 

Matt is a drummer for hire, Freese is a better drummer for hire, and has anyone seen Celebrity Rehab? 

I know he had a drug-related stroke, but Adler doesn't belong anywhere near a GnR drumkit anymore.  (Sad, b/c his work on Appetite definitely has "swing.")  Leave him alone.

and why?
brain has said he'll be coming back.

off topic sry.

He never said that. He said that HE HOPE to hit the road with GN'R.

a link please?
he said he would. I wouldn't say when I couldn't provide a source.

I wasn't aware of any of this. Maybe because it didn't happen? If he said any of this, you gotta get a link. I'd like to know for sure of his status.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=50692.0

this is not exactly what i was reffering to but handy

this is what he said to me like a month ago

i think as rite now GNR doesnt have a tour line up
they have not decided who is gonna play and who doesnt
maybe brain will do a tour and frank other

like i said I wouldn't quote what i couldn't give a source.
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=46258.0