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SEBASTIAN BACH Says 'Chinese Democracy' Is 'The Definition Of Great Rock 'N' Roll' - Nov. 26, 2008

Former SKID ROW frontman Sebastian Bach, who spent much of 2006 and 2007 touring as the support act for GUNS N' ROSES, has issued the following update:

"Let's talk audio here. Just like you and the rest of the planet, since Sunday I have spent every waking moment I can listening to 'Chinese Democracy'. Recently I purchased a brand new turntable, partly because it has a USB cord on the back so you can make MP3s of your albums. Funny thing, I have not made one MP3 yet since I bought it. Fact is, any ear can hear that albums sound far richer, clearer and more natural by far than mp3's and even standard CDs. Once I started listening to my albums again, the only use I now have for MP3s is their portability. It's definitely cool to carry your whole collection around in your pocket, but as far as sound goes, analog whups digital's ass, hands down, no contest.

"Which leads me to 'Chinese Democracy'. Picked up the 180-gram vinyl double album and the CD as well for the car. This is the first brand new album I have bought in over 15 years, for sure, possibly 20 years. All I can say is, we as music fans have lost a lot with the so-called (premature? one can only hope) 'demise' of the LP. As soon as I ran my fingernail down the side, splitting the cellophane and opened the gatefold sleeve, I knew I was in for a full-on rock'n'roll 'experience' getting into this LP. I pulled out disc 1 and was immediately struck by how 'heavy' this vinyl was. It's like my dad's old original copy of 'Led Zeppelin 2'. Not flimsy, lightweight vinyl like records became in the late '80s. 'Chinese Democracy' is a heavy, thick 'platter' of a record. I couldn't wait to crank it.

"For your information, the Bach stereo system consists of : the 'Ion' turntable through a Pioneer VSX-52 Amplifier. I run this through an AudioControl C-101 equalizier, with Adcom poweramps. My speakers are JBL Control 10s with a Velodyne sub-woofer on a hardwood floor. Yes, I can make my whole house literally shake if I want, and yes, the lights actually dim for a second in my living room when I fire all the gear up. I dig it. In short, it kicks ass.

"As soon as I dropped the needle on 'Chinese Democracy', I was captivated by the sound of this record and the thought, talent, and care put into this piece of art from all involved. The power, clarity, separation and production of this music is nothing short of incredible. As loud as I want, I can still hear the vocals, guitars and everything else perfectly clear, with the bass rumbling my guts (and below) just like it should. When Axl rips into the line 'even with an iron fist' in the first song, the blood in my veins starts to boil and the intensity does not let up until the end of side four. What I hear on this record is unbelievable pathos, 100% of Axl's heart and soul on record for all of us to hear. When he sings a song such as 'Street Of Dreams', it's like Janis Joplin at her best, with Quincy Jones' quote of 'melody is king' operating in full effect. The melodies on this record rip my heart out. To hear them sung by the beautiful/deadly instrument that is Axl Rose's voice is something that is to me, truly special, not to mention really cool to own and be able to blast 'on stun' whenever I choose. Four times today so far, but who's counting.

"I cannot stop listening to this record. 'Scraped', 'Riad N' The Bedouins', 'Street Of Dreams', 'IRS', everytime I listen I have a new favorite. Brain, Bumblefoot, Robin Finck, everyone on the record played their asses off; the production is stellar; I haven't even got to the lyrics, still too blown away by the sheer sound to tackle the words.... yet! The album is, above all: Original. Heartfelt. Without Compromise. How many records can you honestly describe in that way today? This is like nothing I have ever heard. And I can't wait to hear it again. Which is, to me, the definition of great rock'n'roll."

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=109708

Way to go Baz, I agree

I couldn't have put it better than that.  : ok:

Fuck yeah Seb!

Makes me want to go out and buy a turntable!!

Does anybody else who bought both the album and the cd think that the album sounds better?

Baz is a good / great sing, but I would say he should be a legend. :no:

Very few singers have the pipes of Bach.

He is a funny, great guy with an awesome personality.

He might have been a dick back then, but the dude was a child. he seems cool now.

^^^^^^+1

I hate to say this, but when Baz and Axl perform My Michelle, Baz totally dominates Axl.

Same deal with the Angel Down tracks.

Baz rules. Angel Down kicks ass. I hope he opens again for GNR in 09 though I would prefer if he got back with Skid Row.

I was kinda wondering when Baz would come out and say something bout the album now that it's out.  He's the only one that's been talking about it the last two years, lol.   

I'm not sure, but I get the feeling Baz likes Chinese Democracy.

prairieboy,

Baz is awesome..  I love how supportive he has been since he rekindled his friendship with Axl in 2006.    He's a true friend and an amazing talent.  Love his backup vox on Sorry, and Angel Down is also a great album.

I like Baz's quote there, but no, during My Michelle, in no way shape or form did Baz "dominate" Axl.  Sorry, not even close.  It was great to see that live twice though.   :beer:
 :peace:

I wouldn't call it a "domination" either. More like a real run for his money. But it's sooooo much easier to just pop in for a single song than it is to sing for a whole gig the way Axl does. No one has the pipes for going all out for 2+ hours. That being said, Baz was great on My Michelle!

I really hope Axl and Baz continue to collaborate and tour together.

Indeed! I think him being friends with Axl again put his world upside down, he seems to worship the guy lol. Just kidding. He admires him, but don't we all? Baz rocks! :beer:

Baz is currently working on a country album.  The show he was on last summer was actual quite good.  He has one recorded country song title "Battle With The Bottle" on itunes and it's great.

On a side note, I'm not surprised he mentioned IRS.  At the Detroit show in 06, Baz was on the side of the stage with his wife most of the night and I remember him really rocking out when IRS was played.

I'm surprised he didn't mention Sorry. That's kinda, dare I say, humble of him.

Uhhh, Baz opened for Axl and he would play well over an hour.  His songs are no cakewalk either.

If you don't get up and jump and headbang every time the "I bet you think I'm doing this all for my health" part comes on you must be def, the adrenaline and energy is incredible!! ;D

Baz really looks like a great guy!! He also has an awesome voice, and very good taste in music  :hihi:

But not good TV. He was a cast member on Gilmore Girls.  : ok:

So what, not every rock star needs to be like Axl, they can do what they fucking want! ::) I happened to catch an episodere where he was there (by accident, I swear ;D) and he looked cool! :peace: Axl lent his voice out to GTA San Andreas too, and that was fucking awesome! Granted, that is way cooler than appearing on Gilmore Girls! ;D But to each his own! 8)

If someone wanted to pay me 5 or 6 figures to hang around those two gals, I doubt I'd say no.  :-X

Cool post from Baz...of course, none of us expected him to say anything different, but I sure wouldn't disagree with any of his comments.

There ya go. Great rock and roll.

Axl got to play a classic rock loser who hated on the station that played metal and hard rock songs (including GN'R). That was fantastic.

Baz singing Hollaback Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIaVFz0foWg) wasn't fantastic.

Gotta love Sabastian Bach.

I asked a question earlier in this thread, but it got buried.

To those who own both the vinyl and the cd:
Does the vinyl sound noticeably better than the compact disc as Baz said??

http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/indBACH ON 'CHINESE DEMOCRACY'

Let's talk audio here. Just like you, & the rest of the planet, since Sunday I have spent every waking moment I can listening to 'Chinese Democracy'. Recently I purchased a brand new turntable, partly because it has a USB cord on the back so you can make mp3's of your albums. Funny thing, I have not made one mp3 yet since I bought it. Fact is, any ear can hear that albums sound far richer, clearer, & more natural by far than mp3's, & even standard CD's. Once I started listening to my albums again, the only use I now have for mp3's is their portability. It's definatley cool to carry your whole collection around in your pocket, but as far as sound goes, analog whup's digital's ass, hands down, no contest.

Which leads me to 'Chinese Democracy'. Picked up the 180 Gram Vinyl Double Album, & the CD as well for the car. This is the first brand new album I have bought in over 15 years for sure, possibly 20 years. All I can say is, we as music fans have lost alot with the so-called (premature? one can only hope) 'demise' of the LP. As soon as I ran my fingernail down the side, splitting the cellophane, & opened the gatefold sleeve, I knew I was in for a full-on rock'n'roll 'experience' getting into this LP. I pulled out Disc 1 & was immediately struck by how 'heavy' this vinyl was. It's like my dad's old original copy of 'Led Zeppelin 2'. Not flimsy, lightweight vinyl like records became in the late '80's. 'Chinese Democracy' is a heavy, thick , 'platter' of a record. I couldn't wait to crank it.

FYI the Bach stereo system consists of : the 'Ion' turntable through a Pioneer VSX-52 Amplifier. I run this through an AudioControl C-101 Equalizier, with Adcom Poweramps. My speakers are JBL Control 10's with a Velodyne Sub-Woofer on a hardwood floor. Yes, I can make my whole house literally shake if I want, & yes, the lights actually dim for a second in my living room when I fire all the gear up. I dig it. In short, it kicks ass.

As soon as I dropped the needle on 'Chinese Democracy', I was captivated by the sound of this record, & the thought, talent, & care put into this piece of Art, from all involved. The power, clarity, separation, & production of this music is nothing short of incredible. As loud as I want, I can still hear the vocals, guitars & everything else perfectly clear, with the bass rumbling my guts (& below) just like it should. When Axl rips into the line "even with an iron fist" in the first song, the blood in my veins starts to boil & the intensity does not let up until the end of Side Four. What I hear on this record is unbelievable pathos, %100 of Axl's heart, & soul, on record for all of us to hear. When he sings a song such as 'Street Of Dreams' it's lke Janis Joplin at her best, with Quincy Jones' quote of 'Melody is King' operating in full effect. The melodies on this record rip my heart out. To hear them sung by the beautiful/deadly instrument that is Axl Rose's voice, is something that is to me, truly special, not to mention really cool to own & be able to blast 'on stun' whenever I choose. 4 times today so far, but who's counting.

I cannot stop listening to this record. 'Scraped', 'Rhiad & The Bedoins', 'Street Of Dreams', 'IRS', everytime I listen I have a new favorite. Brain, Bumblefoot, Robin Finck, everyone on the record played their asses off; the production is stellar; I haven't even got to the lyrics, still too blown away by the sheer sound to tackle the words.....yet! The album is, above all: Original. Heartfelt. Without Compromise. How many records can you honestly describe in that way today?

This is like nothing I have ever heard. And I can't wait to hear it again.

Which is, to me, the definition of great rock'n'roll.

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Bach is more articulate than a quarter of the professional reviewers who commented on Chinese Democracy.

this was posted a few days ago I think...
anyways Baz is awsome in his description props to him.