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Just heard the news headlines on irish radio and they mention Guns N' Roses and Chinese Democracy. They mentioned how its caused outrage amongst some chinese on-liners. The pro-Communist Global Times said the record, entitled Chinese Democracy, had sparked outrage among Chinese internet users.
It claimed they called it part of a plot by some in the West to "grasp and control the world using democracy as a pawn". Sky News story here: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Guns-N-Roses-Return-With-Chinese-Democracy---Controversial-Album-That-Sparks-Anger-In-China/Article/200811415160296

Nothing new to Axl, he's been rubbing people up the wrong way for years! Now he's got the communists on his back!  :peace:

It just wouldn't be a Guns N' Roses album if it didn't stir up controversy.

This is the good stuff :beer:

I like how they seemed to be shocked that this was going to be the title of the album.

Screw those commie  bastards!  :smoking:

Not to mention that there has already been several album titled "Chinese Democracy."  ;D

It's been the title for only 15 years! ::)

If China didn't have a corrupt regime in it's past, they wouldn't have anything to worry about. Mao Tse Tung is a fucking joke. Anyone who is narrowminded enough to willingly follow his theory is fucked up even more so.

Leon Trotsky was the only true communist. He was the only one who knew what was up, and how to go about achieving true economic equality.

Good promotion for the band !

^ No doubt - should only help.

Source: http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Article/Detail.aspx?articleID=DMF24112008_056

Dutch article in a Belgian newspaper (Het Nieuwsblad) saying that according to the 'Global Times', China believes the GN'R album is a 'Western conspiracy against China'

It is not clear yet that Chinese authorities blocked the songs online...

Isn't that some great promotion??  ???

GREAT!  ;)  ;D  : ok:  :peace:

It just shows you how fucking retarded a governments propaganda can be.

They are probably a little slow on the info stream, I'd imagine they just found out about Elvis passing last week.

Man, China knew about this when the title was first announced but like most of the world didn't think it would ever see the light of day so it didn't matter. Now that this is out they have to act. But China is creating a serious problem for our government in terms of hacking into pentagon computers. There was a crazy report on CNN last week about Chinese hackers employed by the government. Remember the U.S.A. owes China in the Trillions and now China is a bigger player in Space then NASA. Read up on the Mining preparations for the moon going down in 2020. China is not to be fucked with and you are either with them, or they will chew you up. And there is zero tolerance to anything anti-Chinese government. Even if that is peaceful like monks.

F China.

It claimed they called it part of a plot by some in the West to "grasp and control the world using democracy as a pawn"
Really? Are people really this stupid?

Could is be any other way?  ;D

Did they ever get in the ring?

Axl is waiting I heard... :hihi:

talk about Controversy this is good for guns n' roses

and plus i think they forgot that guns n' roses is well known for making Controversy :hihi:

MSN has an article about this as well.  Sounds like the censorship in China is ridiculous. 

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=341017&GT1=28102

Maybe China should do something about the way they run their country.

GUNS N' ROSES' 'Democracy' Banned In China: Video Report Available - Nov. 24, 2008

New Tang Dynasty Television has posted a one-and-a-half-minute video report on the alleged ban of the new GUNS N' ROSES album, "Chinese Democracy", in China. Watch the clip below.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=109542

I wonder if Yao Ming likes Guns N' Roses?

Well said  8)

That news ia all over the place, for instance I found it today at various subway stations infoscreens in Warsaw  : ok:

http://www.4shared.com/file/72993653/14f9df5f/P1010155.html
 ^ My photobucket doesn't work proprely, that's why I can't post the pic itself, just the link to 4shared : ok:
The title says: Guns atackted China  ;D

Lil' controversy for sure will help this time G N'R  ;D

Awesome!  :hihi:

well cd will be number 1 on the charts in no time :hihi:

GN'R wouldn't be GN'R without some controversy.  Just more publicity for the album.

I bet Axl is eatin' this up.

Gotta love when simple things get blown to hell out of proportion. Good to see that Chinese can't grasp the concept of a metaphor.  :hihi:

This really is a 'monumental' campaign...Axl used to just piss off our parents, maybe the St. Louis/Montreal PD...now he is going after entire countries!   :hihi:

All publicity is good publicity :smoking:

Why do some of the cds have the Parental Advisory and some now?

SPOT ON!

You know what corrupt, human rights violating, standing on the backs of the people, oppressing Chinese government? It is a conspiracy, because no matter how bad we have it here, you're people have it worse.


 Axl is gonna kick your fucking ass. 

Can I also say "Yippie!" Free advertisement for my favorite album of the past couple of years!

Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy 'banned' in China (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/3511767/Guns-N-Roses-Chinese-Democracy-banned-in-China.html)

Guns N' Roses' new album "Chinese Democracy" has apparently been banned by Beijing censors because of its name.
 
By Malcolm Moore in Shanghai
Last Updated: 2:19PM GMT 24 Nov 2008

In an article Monday headlined "American band releases album venomously attacking China," the Global Times said unidentified Chinese Internet users had described the album as part of a plot by the West to "grasp and control the world using democracy as a pawn."

The album "turns its spear point on China," the article said.

Reports suggested that the China National Publications Import and Export Group, the state-owned monopoly responsible for importing all music, has told record shops not to bother trying to order the long-awaited album, which took the band 17 years to produce.

In addition, the album's official website, chinesedemocracy.com, has been blocked automatically by internet censors, while Baidu, the Chinese version of Google, is self-censoring any searches for the album.

Chinesedemocracy.com has responded with a poll asking visitors if they thought the Chinese should be allowed to access it and about 70 per cent of respondents said yes.

So far, the only way Chinese fans of the rock group have been able to listen to the album is on the band's Myspace page.

Guns N' Roses became hugely popular in China in the late 1980s, when its music was associated with the rebellious student movements that flowered before the massacre in Tiananmen Square.

The album reportedly cost over ?9 million to make and may have helped speed the demise of Axl Rose's record company, Sanctuary, and its subsequent buyout by Universal Music Group. Its 14 tracks, which spread across 77 minutes, have been described by the New York Times as "the work of a fading rock star with far too much money and time on his hands, and no one around who could tell him: 'No'."

Axl Rose, the 46-year-old lead singer of Guns N' Roses, is the only original member of the band left. Chinese Democracy has been gestating since 1991, meaning that Rose recorded an average of 4.5 minutes of music a year.

In the title track, Rose sings about "missionaries", "visionaries" and "sitting in a Chinese stew".

It also contains the provocative lines: "Blame it on the Falun Gong, they've seen the end and you can't hold on now". The Chinese government has outlawed the spiritual movement as an "illegal cult" and there have been repeated accusations of the cruel treatment of Falun Gong members.

Chen Zhuo, a Beijing-based visual artist, declined an offer from Guns N' Roses when the band wanted to use his image of Tiananmen Square rendered as an amusement park for the cover of the record. Instead, the album cover features a picture of a bicycle and three red Communist stars.

However, the Ministry of Culture said it did not know whether the album was banned or not. "This is the first time we've heard about it," said a spokesman, adding that the ban "might just be a rumour".

On Chinese blog sites, a common platform for teenagers to vent their anger, few people were upset by the album's lyrics. "How can they know about China if they have never been. This explains why Americans are always clowns," said one anonymous blogger.

However, another blogger commented: "Helpless Chinese under the iron fist is a good song. Where can I buy the album? I'll get angry if I can't buy the album."

This pisses me off...

Reuters have started syndicating the following article, which is being picked up by major news outlets. However, they've made a huge mistake by stating that "The album is currently 34th in the Billboard Hot 100, according to the music chart website (www.billboard.com)." However, everyone (other than Reuters) knows that the Billboard Hot 100 is a Singles chart and the song "Chinese Democracy" is in 34 position, not the album. What annoys me the most is that they seem to use that (false) Chart position to try to back up what the Chinese are saying about the popularity of the band. 

I've already sent a correction message to the editors politely alerting them to their mistake, I encourage others to do the same, so that it gets noticed and corrected ASAP... http://reuters-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/reuters_en.cfg/php/enduser/ps_correct_and_suggest.php   

Anyway, have a read below...
 
Beijing brushes off "Chinese Democracy"
http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE4AO2TR20081125

BEIJING (Reuters) - China gave short shrift to rockers Guns N' Roses' controversial new album "Chinese Democracy" on Tuesday, saying the music was bad and that they were not that popular anyway.

The band's first album in 17 years was released on Sunday and its Geffen Records label has already said it thinks it unlikely to be approved for release in China.

"As far as I know, many people don't like this kind of music," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang told a news briefing. "It's too noisy and clamorous."

Formed in California in 1985, the band has sold over 100 million albums worldwide and won many international music awards. Their 1987 hit single "Sweet Child o' Mine" is frequently voted one of the great rock tracks of all time.

But their new album has drawn a furious response from some Chinese Internet users, who accused the band of trying to stir up ill will against China. Others were more balanced.

"Forgive them, they haven't been on top of the world for hundreds of years. It's tough to avoid becoming outdated," said one post on popular Chinese web portal Mop.com (www.mop.com).

The album is currently 34th in the Billboard Hot 100, according to the music chart website (www.billboard.com).

In one song, singer Axl Rose refers to members of the spiritual group Falun Gong, banned in China as an evil cult.

The artwork includes Beijing artist Shi Lifeng's 2008 oil painting "Red Star," which depicts the powerlessness of Chinese people in a state ruled by an iron fist. Photos of the Chinese military and the Hong Kong skyline also appear.

But the album is devoid of bad language or sexual references. That was not the case with the band's last release, which did slip through the net in China.

The two "Use Your Illusion" albums from 1991 were rife with violent sexual imagery, vicious insults, cursing and homicidal thoughts. They were distributed by Beijing-based Dunhuang.

Still, China's notorious copyright pirates may mean the last laugh could be on the Chinese government.

Beijing frequently bans films, books and songs, but they usually end up on street corners and in shops in pirated form.

Too noisy and clamorous!  :rofl:

Thats brilliant - they should include it on the billboard ads!

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gO0XrOFina3OYZK7Mm9GIabjUIrw

Me too. I researched the falungong movement on wikipedia. It's actually quite interesting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7747815.stm

haha..."If your great wall rocks, blame yourself..." priceless.

Even with an iron fist... all that you got to rule the nation, when all we got is precious time.

I love this quote:

"As far as I know, many people don't like this kind of music," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang told a news briefing. "It's too noisy and clamorous."

Noisy and Clamorous? It sounds like my Grandma works for the Chinese Forgeign Ministry!

I missed the part about CFM Spokesman...I thought I was reading a Mick Wall review of CD.   :hihi:

Noisy music is bad  :hihi:

Go Axl :beer:

Not anymore....