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Obese have right to two airline seats

OTTAWA (Reuters) ? Obese people have the right to two seats for the price of one on flights within Canada, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled on Thursday.

The high court declined to hear an appeal by Canadian airlines of a decision by the Canadian Transportation Agency that people who are "functionally disabled by obesity" deserve to have two seats for one fare.

The airlines had lost an appeal at the Federal Court of Appeal in May and had sought to launch a fresh appeal at the Supreme Court. The court's decision not to hear a new appeal means the one-person-one-fare policy stands.

The appeal had been launched by Air Canada, Air Canada Jazz and WestJet.

(Reporting by Randall Palmer)

Couldn't care less about this stuff normally...in the States we deal with this 'victim' bullshit all the time...businesses have to jump through all kinds of 'special' hoops...but this really caught my attention for one reason:

Are the armrests removable in Canada?  Because last time I flew, there was a really uncomfortable armrests between the seats...now if some 'obese' person wants to take up two seats, do they stick that armrest up their asscrack?  What if they can shoehorn their ass into one seat, but their rolls obstruct the adjacent two seats...do they pay for an extra seat then?  I use less fuel, and only use one seat - but pay the same as a guy who takes up two seats, and burns twice the fuel?  These questions will bother me all day now...

Not.   :hihi:

On a serious note, my butt to kneecap distance exceeds the allotted legroom when I go to hockey games, and I am forced to sit splayed into the legroom of the seats next to me (or jam my knees into the seat in front of me)...do you think Canada could up the legroom allottments for giant lumber-jacks like myself? 

It's shit like this that makes liberalism look bad.

Super lame.

Well, being refused to travel because of your weight is a bit on the edge too. Like the old arguments for refusing handicapped proper passage with "it costs too much!". Those fucking seats could have been a little bigger! For all of us! Why do we always have to feel like cattle when we travel (hint  :hihi:)?

Then again the normal customers will end up paying for this. I don't know, there are no satisfactory answers to it. Perhaps apart from having a society that produce these people.

Working on a new punch line, what do you think? "When money is God, people become fat".

Beasts.

Society is not at fault. It did not create these people. How asinine of a statement! A person has complete control over what they put into their bodies. It's insane to want to blame someone else or a society for the problem. This is the problem with this fucking world. No one wants to take responsibility for their own actions anymore. They want to blame someone else and want the government to take care of them and their problems. How fuckin' pathetic!  :rant:

"It's our right to do this and to do that and to have this or to have that!" Excuse me while I throw-up! What right do the obese have to two airline seats at the price of one? They should have to pay for both seats. I know there are a lot of people who suffer from obesity due to medical problems and thyroid problems. But this is getting out of hand.

you should post in the obesity thread

Society isn't at fault, but it clearly plays a role.  Among countries where there isn't widespread hunger, why do you think there are different rates of obesity?  It has something to do with culture/society, as a contributing cause, even if the final choice resides with the individual.   

Free but embarrassing.

i'm sorry but thats just stupid, if your ass is that fat then you should have to pay for two seats. That way it gives you a little bit more encouragement to loose some of that wieght and do a pull up than pull up to a Mcdonalds.

Of course society is at fault. You think millions of people in the last 20 years suddenly made a conscious choice to become fat? No, they made it because junk food started becoming easier, cheaper and more accessible than healthy food. They made it because their government check and daytime tv made it possible to just stay home and eat all day.

You can point fingers all you want, but a fat person is not going to become thin just because we pepper them with hurtful comments and hypocritical morals. Remember, fat people didn't make this law. Insecure, slim, suit wearing white dudes did that. If you want to complain, complain at them for making you pay more for an airline ticket.

...and millions of people are thin, despite of the junk food. Every individual has a chose, now if some people choose to fatten themselves with junk food, isn't it time to look into the mirror instead of blaming the society for junk food being so easy at hand? And why is it? For demand and income.

Are you going to point fingers on videogames, tv and internet next? After all, it does take time off the exercise.

They should walk.

The individual has a personal responsibility for making the necessary changes in life. I'm not saying a fat person or a stupid person should go complain to the government.

But when something becomes a trend, especially when that something is a negative, it brings up the question: Should we just let it continue in our gloating that it was their own choice? Or should we look at the bigger picture and find out what exactly coerces people into making these stupid decisions? What is happening that makes so many people with no relation to do this?

I mean, what do you want here? Are you just looking to slam fat people? 

Should everything be controlled by the goverment? To live in a police state with junk food coupons?

If it's there you don't have to take it daily. All junk food users aren't fat, and I hardly think the junk food alone is to blame.

Its a way of life where an individual eats more than consumes. A fat person is fat just 'cause of that. Sure you can blame the society, childhood, sickness, no one cares, no one helps etc.

But look at the facts; who's eating?

Like with alcohol and cigarettes, a ban on advertising is a place to start. Tax breaks for healthy food and increased taxes for unhealthy food. Better food in schools and workplaces. More gymnastics. Campaigns promoting a healthy lifestyle.

There's a lot of things you can do.

So because something becomes easy to access that throws out responsibility? Not in my opinion. In the end, people have a choice. It just so seems that many people take the easy way out and blame society and government when their wrong choice becomes a factor. People need to take self-control of themselves first. Say no, to being lazy and sitting around on the couch all day eating junk food and watching television. Don't let society control your thinking and actions and then want to turn around and blame society and government later in life.

Fat people aren't going to become thin either by giving in like this society and government seems to keep on doing. But your right, about the insecure white people wearing suits who brought this into law. But these are the same typical dipshit officials that put all the other government control laws into effect as well such as Affirmative Action and the Hate Crime law. Very pathetic!  :rant:

Send the fatties to the work camps...forced labor and nutritional indoctrination!   :hihi:

The only blame I remotely place on society is allowing the 'victim' mentality to take hold.  You are fat because you allow yourself to become so.  You are on welfare because you allow yourself to become so.  You take up two seats, pay for both.  Your favorite restaurant lets people smoke, and it ruins your meal...find another place to eat.  You know the 'guage' you put your carry on through?  They need one of those for passengers...I am tired of sitting cross legged with my hands in my lap because some obese, sweating, stink-bomb has the seat next to mine.

What we need is PERSONAL accountability.  Pay for the real eastate you are soiling fatty, and perhaps before you fly next you'll get your fat ass away from the table and take a walk or two...if you choose not to, then pay for the two damn seats.  If you need a book, a cop, or the government to tell you what is right and wrong, and prevent you from being stupid, perhaps it is time you take a walk into a giant bug zapper, and save the rest of us a lot of risk/hassle.

This concludes my rant.  The opinions expressed in this rant are those of the writer at this given moment and are subject to change if overtaken by facts. The writer respects the opinions of others, and encourages open discussion, including contrary points of view. :rant:

I agree to everything you say...accept for this one.
I'm handicapped (no not obesed :P)...did i allow myself to become handicapped? and therefor not be able to work so i get paid from some sort of welfare program.

** I am currently trying to get back to work again, but i will never be able to work 40 hours a week anymore...i think i might be lucky to be able to eventually work 40 hours a month, so i will always be depending on welfare programs in certain amounts.

As with all rants, you tend to get going downhill so fast, you miss some of the fine points - hence the disclaimer!  :peace:

If you paid into it (ala Social Security/taxes) it is not 'welfare' (thats a bad word to use for the abuse situations...perhaps 'freebie' is a better term), it is Gov't provided 'insurance'...I have family members that have never worked a day in their lives, have no reason they can't work, and are on 'welfare'...this makes me want to puke/causes rant...if you are involved in an accident at work, or an illness, and can't work - then we are forced to help in some way, and that is the right thing to do (people were doing that long before the gov't 'took over').  If you were born handicapped to the point where you cannot work, we can't toss you to the wolves either - which is why these programs were started - but as with all gov't programs they become abused 10 minutes after they are put in place, by sad sack 'victims' or outright criminals.  If you absolutely can't work, then go read stories to kids in the hospital, etc.  Be productive/beneficial in some way.  Uh-oh another rant is developing...I'll close here!

PS - I wish you all the best on recovery, and pray you are able to hear, so you have GnR CD to listen to!

..and i know ppl who "have" the same handicap as i do, and get financial support from the government for that and can also work 60 hours a week as a bonus....so it's bad everywhere at all levels of social securities...although luckily they (my government) are finally working on it to make it stop...or at least harder for ppl to get money for doing nothing.