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The track order or listing is

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Shackler's Revenge
3. Better
4. Street of Dreams
5. If the World
6. There Was a Time
7. Catcher in the Rye
8. Scraped
9. Riad n' the Bedouins
10. Sorry
11. I.R.S.
12. Madagascar
13. This I Love
14. Prostitute

I'm wondering if you had been given this track order before the album was out and asked to give your opinion on it, what would it have been ? I myself think that shacklers doesn't seem right as the second track on the album. It's a bit like the batting order in cricket.

No changes should be made, except one. Put I.R.S. before Sorry, not after it.

Four heavy hitters -

Sorry
Madagascar
This I love
Prostitute

When I first saw the tracklisting I was a bit confused, but not hearing it over a few times, the music and the lyrics make perfect sense the way it's set out. Love it! It does a great job of keeping me waiting for the next song, and the way Prostitute ends makes me want the next album SO bad!

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Love the whole thing and how it is tracklisted but would do one thing.....would have left Shackler off the album. Fine for a video game, but I think the track is the weakest on the album and would rather have CD going straight in to Better. Oh well, just a petty grievance.  :peace:

I really like the flow--it's just right.

Only problem with Shackler's is that it's associated with a video game. It's grown on me pretty fast. The tracklist is obviously perfect, as it's arranged by the artist and fits the overall vision : ok:.

It is more than perfect, but where is disc 2? :hihi:

When I first got it and played it with my friends we thought street of dreams, if the world, twat and catcher shouldn't have been near the start, but now after a weekend of listening I think it works.

I still keep thinking after This I Love ends the album is going to end, I think that would have been the perfect end to the album, not Prost, I'd change the order of those 2.

Perfect-let it be.

15+ years later, I'm pretty sure it's the way it should be.    :beer:

It's perfect!

I don't think "Street of Dreams," "If the World," "TWAT," and "CITR" should have come one after another. They're all great songs and they're all very different from one another, but when listening to the album straight through, I think they kill the momentum that the first three tracks have built. Those are four songs that are very deep, that you need to hear several times to fully digest, and I think they end up detracting from one another. It would have been nice if a solid, rocking track like "Scraped" or "Rhiad" had been placed in the middle of them, just to bring the mood back up.

I would not change one thing.

Kinda like asking Dali to do a few different brush strokes.on a painting.

Totally agree.

Oh My God  ::) aint we getting sad ?

hmm great name for a song "aint we getting sad"

anyway come'on "change the track order" ??????????????????????????????????????????

what more do u want ?

"lets put some money together for an advert in the paper so axl can read it and recall C.D and change the tracklist, then complain on an online forum ? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

nah.

IF i had the power to change it, yes i agree with you and think it would be cool to have This I Love end the album.  I would also move TWAT to after Shacklers as i think it would be a better transition into The Blues.   With how hard Shacklers is and how soft The Blues beginning is, im finding it hard to really get into that part.

By the way... no way leave Shacklers off the album.  one of the best in my opinion.

It is near enough what I have would have chosen.

I would have had 'If the World' as a bonus track at the end, and replaced it with something different up-tempo.

I would also have Riad and Scraped round the other way.

Personally I don't like the track order... I don't think the first 4 songs flow very well, it gets better from there on... and really picks up at the end, but I can't get by the first 4 songs and how they just don't flow.

I like it, would change it at all.

I think "This I Love" should have closed the album, but that's just me.

nah, I half to disagree.  Prostitute has the outro synth that is perfect for the ending of a album.

i think the album ends perfectly with this i love going into prostitute great way to end a great fucking album :beer:

Madagascar -> This I Love -> Prostitute is the perfect sequence to close the album.

The themes and ideas flow so perfectly. Prostitute being anywhere else but last wouldn't make sense, and would lessen its impact.

It's perfect.


Maybe as This I Love ends, you think that the album should end there, but then when you hear Prostitute and it makes sense to close the album with it.....




/jarmo

Track listing is fine with me.

I don't really worry about how the 14 songs are listed on the record, what really makes me happy is having 14 NEW GUNS N' ROSES SONGS.

The track order is perfect.

I thought This I Love would make a good ending,
how the last lyric, Axl says "Goodbye"

but The synth outro in pro, is nice.

The ending is perfect, it leaves me with a strong desire to replay it from the top.

The only minor change I made in my itunes playlist was to move Riad up to follow Shacker's.  So I get my industrial fix and then move on to explore all the other styles on the record.

The album sequence is perfect for me. They have a nice flow of songs. Prostitute is a nice little outro/burnout song at the end.

The album keeps your interest all the way to the end, perfect. Love it!

I think the track order works as it is now just fine.