Here Today... Gone To Hell!

how will it influence other artists?  how will it influence the industry?  if we're allowed to speculate and discuss something liek that, i think it's kind of interesting. 

I think it will udoubtedly be the last album of it's kind in this day and age the way the music industry is going.

It will be no different at all.

I don't think the actual material of the record, as good as it is will change anything but the way in which the record came to be is something that would not be allowed to ever happen again.

maybe nothing will change but perhaps it will make some people want to release uncompromising music. Music that they wrote for themselves rather than trying to write something catchy to sell..

However most of the people doing that are independent artists not attached to big labels, so you have to dig in order to find them

I hope it does well enough that maybe the record companies would think about looking at groups who push the envelope a bit.

I don't think that's going to happen though. Everything will stay the same.

Thing is though.

Music scenes are so radically different in different countries.

As me and Shadows7XXX discussed over PM.

thats for damn sure unless G'n'R issues another release within a year or so? and maybe that will be if CD does well and i mean VERY well.

we can only hope.....

It'll be interesting to see if Axl follows Trent Reznor's vision and finishes his contract with Universal/Geffen and goes out on his own. I'm not sure of the contract conditions or how many albums Axl/Guns N' Roses owes the record company, but it'll be interesting to see how this all works out of the next few years.

From listening to the album and reading a bit between the lines based on what I'm hearing, I think we're going to see a lot more experimental music coming from Guns in the next couple albums, which really excites me.

I also think bands like Hinder and Buckcherry will be challenged to come up with more quality material.

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It will suck less.  Also,  I think Klosterman was right in his review where he said that this would be (something along the lines of) the last Old Media album.

Yes, I think Axl might want to consider following up CD with a succession of EPs and non-album singles (as NIN used to, and as Coldplay and the Smashing Pumpkins are doing now).

Each one could stand on its own as an example of the different styles he has been working on. In my opinion, Chinese Democracy's main failing .... (HOLD YOUR FIRE, I like the album) is that in its attmpt to cover all of the styles that AXL has explored, and to accomodate all of the mmusicians that have contributed (and al of the old and new school fans), the end result is sometimes a bit scatterbrained and unfocussed. An EP could have 4 or 5 songs that are overtly rock, or songs that are with heavily orchestrated, or based on loops etc etc, which would be more palatable for most people, and help keep interest in the new band up if they are relaesed consistently.

Anyway, releasing a steady stream of songs seems to be the way forward for bands, commercially speaking.

The illusions were scattered and unfocused. Everything any of them wanted to do they did. Here, this is Axl's vision and there is a flow to the album. From the very beginning of Chinese Democracy, to the very end of Prostitute. So I don't agree. And the album is s fucking masterpiece. Believe it.

Chinese Democracy is definitely an end of an era.  Think about all the major music event that have happened in the past couple of years leading up to this...events that we all wished would happen...but never thought would ever happen.

Led Zeppelin reunited, Van Halen reunited, The Police reunited, Genesis reunited, RATM reunited, Pixies reunited, Smashing Pumpkins reunited, The Eagles released an album after 27 years, Q-Tip released his first solo album in almost 10 years, Zac de la Rocha released a mini-album, new Portishead album, a new AC/DC album.

With only Detox left as the big finale...

It's a symbollic end of the rock n roll era as we know it.

The future will follow the paths that Radiohead, NIN, and others are taking.  Physical music will likely cease to exist.

I doubt it will change, Axl Rose is the only musician right now that can wait 14 years and still not get dropped by his record label. Rock bands today come out with cds way to fast and the material is way too cheesy and poppy. Axl was definately not trying to fall into this new age rock category. Rock will still be dominated at times by stupid songs like saving abiel addicted, or hinder songs, stuff like that, oh and the great nickelback..cough cough

Chinese Democracy will have no effect on the music industry other than the fact that people can finally stop talking about it now.  I doubt any of the songs will become longtime radio hits, and 20 years from now it'll be remembered sort of like the Illusions are, good albums but pretty much just for Gn'R fans.. where as Appetite will remain a classic.