Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Thought it would be a good idea to have a thread on how CD is getting on over at www.metacritic.com

For anyone who isn't aware, it is a website that compiles and scores reviews (out of 100) from different sources (rollingstone, newspapers etc.) and gives an average for the album. It is a good way to fairly get a true idea on how the album is being received.

It also has links to the reviews from the different publications, so it's pretty cool to have them all in one place.

Chinese Democracy is currently at 67 out of 100 (based on 22 reviews) as of 2nd December 2008.

http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/gunsnroses/chinesedemocracy

All the main review sites have stated it is a great album.  No album could live up to the hype.  However I would say that it will depend on sales to see how succesful this album truly is.  GnR has never done well on the Radio except for AFD. 

Also I think world wide sales are what needs to be looked at.  The U.S. seems to be more about what is hot now and considering Highschool musical and Hanna Montanna are at the top really speaks volumes to what is driving the music industry right now and it has nothing to do with music.

Where I grew up, the first 5 UYI singles (as well as Patience) were all over the radio.

I agree that worldwide sales need to be looked at, but what to compare it to.  AC/DC has been number 1 for weeks, and Mettalica also was number 1 worldwide for a few weeks.  I don't see CD having the same type of staying power.

Since when have sales determined album quality? I honestly dont give a damn if it sells a trillion copies. It's all about the content.

An album is only as good as you "personally" think it is, technically other peoples opinions mean fuck all.

AC/DC and Metallica just sold by the name. The albums were actually huge letdowns.

If CD somehow sells less than Metallica, it doesnt mean its worse  >:(
 :beer: rant

The rating is quite low now, but there is only 8 reviews, so remember half of these reviews are "haters" who give 10-50 points. Lets see what the rating is at ~50 reviews.

All I ever care about is that any band I like sells enough copies of their current album for their label to consider it worth releasing their next album. Beyond that, I could care less what it sells or where it charts. It's no sure indicator of quality either way.

I don't think the rating is "quite low" if you go by the Metacritic standards.  I don't think that is accurate.  Plus, they included one review that wasn't even a review and many of the reviews haven't been added to that list.

Ali

I've seen probably 100 reviews for CD and most of them were very good - but they only have 8 posted? Where are the rest?
 ???

Same here.

They'll update soon i'd imagine!

Some of the best reviews haven't been posted yet like LA Times. Neither has NY Times. At metacritic anything about 75 is pretty good and over 80 is excellent. Not that any of this matters in any tangible way. Sales will be more important in allowing Axl to do a lot of interesting things.

It started out at 60, so it's creeping up. It's a shame they see fit to include that infamous Observer Music Monthly 'review'. That quote they've used from it is basically the entire review!

They also included a blog review from one of the publications (this isn't the final review).  Wonder if they will update it? :confused:

That OMM review was for the Single, not the Album, so it shouldn't be included on Metacritic.

This should be discarded and shouldn't even be talked about.

If u look at the reviews, 2 of the bad ones weren't even about the album. They were obviously personal vendettas for whatever reason by stupid fucking biased reviewers cause they didn't even mention the album.

If u take the REAL reviews, they'd be in the mid 70's at the lowest.


I can handle bad reviews as long as the reviewer , u can tell actually listened to the album and are basing it on that.

not the old band, the time, the money, the reputation or what have u.


The bad reviews here were written 10 years ago so they don't count.

So i just checked metacritic again and Guns are 68 out of 100 from 20 reviews. So not alot of movement.

Some reviewers will rate it low just because it's axl rose and there is no slash in the band, etc...

Reviewers are biased...

Yeah but they have included more reputable reviews aswell.

http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/beatles/love?q=Beatles

The Beatles 'Love' album from 2006 has an 83 average. Sure it's a remix album, but it's fucking mega.

Fuck all these retarded reviewers that honestly don't know shit about anything.

Point being, don't take this site to heart. CD is a great fucking album and we all know it.

Yeah i understand, it just gives a good idea of how the "reviewers" rate this album.

Please Note: i used the term reviewers loosely in the sentence above.

Metacritic is only relevant for modern bands.

The average fan who has rated the album on metacritic gives it an 8.2 out of 10. That is more important to me than what the reviewers say.

That's funny ! so if Slash was in the band and Axl wasn't.  Nobody would say anything ?

I rated  for msyelf. i gave it a 10 :)

Checked today and GNR are on 67/100 with 22 reviews.

I'm surprised it's getting such low scores. It's really a fantastic album.

It's funny though...

If you look at the reviews, the publications I'd consider more reputable are all giving it good scores...70's, 80's, and 90's.

The publications I've either never heard of (no rip cord? tiny mix tapes? prefix magazine?), or ones I'd consider rags at best (Slant), are the ones giving the album low scores.  They really seem to be pulling down the number.  If I look at the sources I'd consider reputable, the average is closer to 80, it looks like.

CD is certainly going to suffer from the "over-reviewed" syndrome that you sometimes find on metacritic.  It's so mythical in stature that everyone and their grandmother is going to want to review it.  I half expect to see a review in the next EGM, and maybe even the next Rachel Ray mag (it's my WIFE'S!! I swear!!).

I'm not. Considering the delight some critics have taken in ripping it to shreds, the Metacritic score isn't all that bad. It's still in the green.