Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Plain and simple...you know the songs now and have a better idea as to where they would fit in nicely during a live show...so, go to it...what does GN'R setlist look like in 2009?

Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the Jungle
Shackler's Revenge
You Could Be Mine
Mr. Brownstone*
Don't Cry
Sorry
Scraped*
Civil War
Dead Horse
There Was a Time
Sweet Child O'Mine
Catcher in the Rye*
Estranged*
Prostitute
Better*
Patience
Nightrain
Rocket Queen

ENCORE:
This I Love
Paradise City


*(rotating in & out in order: It's So Easy, Riad N' the Bedouins, Street of Dreams, November Rain, I.R.S.)

Welcome to the Jungle
I.R.S.
Chinese Democracy
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
If the World
Better
My Michelle
Prostitute
Scraped
Sorry
This I Love

1- Chinese Democracy
2- It's So Easy
3- Shackler's Revenge
4- Better
5- Welcome To The Jungle
6- Scraped
7- Robin Guitar Solo / Sweet Child O' Mine
8- Oh My God
9- Prostitute
10- November Rain
11- Madagascar
12- Street Of Dreams
13- This I Love
14- There Was A Time
15- Sorry
[Encore]
16- Riad N' The Bedouins
17- Chinese Democracy
18- Nightrain
19- I.R.S
20- Paradise City

I'd like it to be like in the 90s when we didn't have to put up with the same rigid setlist throughout the entire tour.

Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone (every show should start with these three... it's a perfect opening trio)
Better
Sweet Child O' Mine
Prostitute
You Could Be Mine
Scraped or Riad & The Bedouins
Street Of Dreams or Catcher In The Rye
November Rain
This I Love
Estranged or Coma
Sorry
Breakdown or Locomotive
Used To Love Her or Patience
I.R.S. or Oh My God
Down On The Farm or Human Being
Don't Cry or Pretty Tied Up
There Was A Time
Civil War or Bad Obsession
Nightrain or Rocket Queen

ENCORE:
Chinese Democracy
Madagascar or If The World
Paradise City

They could really mix it up with a setlist like that, I think.

My dream set list:

1- Welcome to the jungle
2- It's so easy
3- Don't damm me
4- Scrapped
5- Shacker's revenge
6- Knockin' on heavens door
7- Patience
8- Catcher in the rye
9- Prostitute
10- Coma
11- Sweet child o' mine
12- You could be mine
13- Better
14- Don't cry
15- Twat
16- Breakdown
17- Nightrain
18- Rocket queen
19-Estranged
20- November rain
21- This I love
22- Paradise city

Quite a long show........3 hrs

1.Chinese democracy
2.welcome to the jungle
3.madagascar
4.your'e crazy
5.since i dont have you
6.prostitute
7.twat
8.back off bitch
9.sorry
10.estranged
11.coma
12.paradise city

Don't know the order but 8 new songs .and 12 old would work

This.

Ideally, about half the set would stay pretty rigid (the obvious classics and singles/band's favourites from Chi-Dem), but now they've got more material to play with I would hope to see the sort of setlists where there would be a few changes from night to night.

1)Welcome to the jungle
2)Its So Easy
3)Mr Brownstone
4)Better
5)Live and Let Die
6)Shacklers Revenge
7)Sweet Child O'Mine
8)Move To The City
9)November Rain
10)The Blues
11)Catcher In The Rye
12)Madagascar
13)Night Train
15)Patience
16)I Used To love Her
17)Sorry
18)Locomotive

Encore:
19_Chinese Democracy
21)Estranged
22)Dont Cry
23) Paradise City

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Mr. Brownstone
3. Live and Let Die
4. Better
5. Street of Dreams
6. Guitar Solo/Sweet Child O' Mine
7. Welcome to the Jungle
8. Riad N' the Bedouins (rotate in an unheard 'new' track or OMG)
9. November Rain
10. Rocket Queen
11. TWAT
12. Guitar Solo/Don't Cry
13. Madagascar
14. Scraped or. Shacklers Revenge
15. Patience
16. Prostitute
Encore
17. CITR (would love for Estranged to get mixed in)
18.Paradise City


 

1.  Chinese Democracy
2.  Shackler's Revenge
3.  I.R.S.
4.  Mr. Brownstone
5.  Knockin' On Heaven's Door
6.  Patience
7.  Madagascar
8.  Catcher in the Rye
9.  Sweet Child O Mine
10.  You Could Be Mine
11.  Riad & da Bedoiuns
12.  Breakdown
13.  Scraped
14.  Nightrain
15.  Street of Dreams
16.  If The World
17.  November Rain
18.  Welcome to the Jungle
19.  Better
20.  Paradise City

Not sure bout my ultimate setlist but I am convinced that This I Love (up to just where the guitar comes in) should be the introduction to Novemeber Rain - imagine how good that would be!!!!

Just said Gnr tour is  coming to town  soon..Stayed tuned for updates...

i think they should do an iron maiden and play the entire album in order then add a few older songs (in rotation) on the end just for a first (smallish) tour then back to old ways mixing everything up for a much bigger tour

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Its So Easy
3. Better
4. Live In Let Die
5. If The World
6. Knockin On Heavens Door
5. Sweet Child O' Mine
6 Perfect Crime
7. Riad N' The Bedouins
8. Shacklers Revenge
9. Nightrain
10. You Could Be mine
11. Street Of Dreams
12. Patience
13. Scraped
14. Madagascar
15. November Rain
16. Welcome To The Jungle
17. IRS

Encore
Rocket Queen
Catcher In The Rye
Paradise City

shit, just play chinese democracy all the way through.  then play it again for the encore.  by the time this baby hits the airwaves, people will be dying to hear it live.  more so than a bunch of 20 year old songs about drugs and partying i think.

Couldn't agree more.

Though I think This I Love segueing into November Rain would be amazing.

fuck yeah! like Dust In The Wind intro in 93, that would be mindblowing...

the MUST play every new song in the record in every show + jungle, SCOM, civil war/estranged and paradise city

lol

1) You're fooling yourself. No matter how much people like the new stuff, the classics are still the classics, and the crowd wills till eat them up... just like for any big band.
2) It's not like all the old songs were about drugs and partying.
3) What the hell is wrong with songs about drugs and partying?

I totally agree! I love every song on this record!

I personally think Axl is going to totally revamp the setlist.

This is the true break from the old, and in with the new GNR.  Of course there will be some "standards", but I think you will be suprised at the amount of CD that is on the next tour.

I say that most, if not all the album is played.  Maybe even CD all the way through, followed by a modified classics set.  Or the classics mixed..

Timbo

WTTJ
Chinese Democracy
Its So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
14 Years
Bad Obsession
Better
Scraped
Nightrain
Civil War
Madagascar
Riad N The Bedouins
November  Rain
Rocket Queen
SCOM
Yesterdays
Sorry or TWAT (switches every other night)
Down On The Farm
Used To Love Her
YCBM
Paradise City

same setlist only drop  Out Ta Get Me, Think About You, My Michelle, Live and Let Die and KOHD


add 5 new songs to Better, CD, Maddy, SOD, IRS,

those 5 should be:
Rhiad, Scraped, Sorry, This I Love and Prostitute.

maybe even drop SOD and IRS and add Shacklers and TWAT

WTTJ
Chinese Democracy
It's So Easy
*rotated new song*
Live and Let Die
Sweet Child O' Mine
Sorry
Better
*rotated Old Song*
Street Of Dreams
Don't Cry
Used To Love Her
November Rain
My Michelle
There Was A Time
You Could Be Mine
Patience
Nightrain

Encores
Mr. Brownstone(I like the drum intro for encore purposes, good encore song)
*rotated new song*
Paradise City

for rotated new songs - I'd pick between: Madagascar, If The World, Prostitute, This I Love, and IRS. I agree that This I Love would be ok too as an encore, with just Axl out playing the piano then the band kicking in...then do brownstone and PC

for rotated old songs: Id like to hear Rocket Queen, KOHD(maybe no longer a staple to me), Civil War, Out Ta Get Me, and maybe a cool cover they did in the day like Whole Lotta Rosie, or Dead Flowers...jsut to keep the set list movin night to night

I've decided to make one. It's Sunday! No space for Patience or It's So Easy  :nervous:

01. Chinese Democracy
02. Shackler?s Revenge
03. Mr Brownstone
04. There Was a Time
05. Better
06. Sweet Child O? Mine
07. Scraped
08. Out Ta Get Me
09. Double Talkin? Jive
10. If The World
11. Civil War
12. Catcher in the Rye
13. You Could Be Mine
14. Coma
15. Prostitute
16. Nightrain
Encore
17. Welcome to the Jungle
18. This I Love
19. November Rain
20. Paradise City

This is only if they tour in the very near future to promote the album. No point in promoting the album with another round of the Appetite For Nostalgia tour, but the classics can't be left out altogether...

Chinese Democracy
Cival War
Better
If the World
Knockin On Heaven's Door
There Was a Time
Mr. Brownstone
Scrapped
My Michelle
It's So Easy
Street of Dreams

I know many people will hate me for this but
-Band Jam/Drum Solo/2 guitar solos

Welcome to the Jungle
I.R.S.
Nightrain
Madagascar
Sweet Child of Mine
November Rain
This I love
Used to Love her
Estranged
Pradise City

Encore
Shackler's Revenge
Sorry
Prostitue

01. Chinese Democracy
02. It's So Easy
03. Better
04. Street Of Dreams
05. Civil War
06. There Was A Time
07. I.R.S. or Rhiad N' The Bedouins
08. Sorry
09. Catcher In The Rye
10. Scraped
11. November Rain
12. Estranged
13. This I Love
14. Nightrain
-----------------------
15. Welcome To The Jungle
16. Don't Cry
17. Madagascar
18. Prostitute
19. Paradise City

November Rain - Estranged - This I Love trilogy is what i would love to see, its now my biggest dreams of new setlist.

Then i would only put 3 or 4 AFD songs there, 4 seems like suitable to me.

I added 11 new songs there, + 4 AFD songs and 4 UYI songs, that seems like my dream setlist.

Once again, my wishes:

- 3 or 4 AFD songs
- Couple rare UYI tracks like Estranged or Civil War + November Rain and Don't Cry.
- There has to be over 10 songs from chinese democracy, that's for sure.
- More changes to setlist like back in UYI tour. So no just same setlist and songs trough whole tour.

Chinese Democracy
CD, SR, Better, TWAT, ITW, Sorry, TIL, Prostitute, Riad

Appetite For Destruction
WTTJ, ISE, SCOM, PC, Nightrain, Rocket Queen

Use Your Illusion
NR, KOHD, Civil War, YCBM, Bad Obsession, Don't Cry (Original/Alternate)

Gn'R Lies
Patiences, UTLH

and Oh, My God.

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Better
3. It's So Easy
4. Mr. Brownstone
5. 14 Years (with Axl rant about the past 14 years, declares that CD has begun, and bring's out a guest.....)
6. Shackler's Revenge (with Buckethead)
7. I.R.S (with Buckethead)
*. Buckethead solo
8. Madagascar
*. Bumblefoot solo
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. Think About You
11. Catcher in the Rye
*. This I Love (Piano instrumental started by Dizzy, Axl takes over)
12. November Rain
13. Scraped

------------------------------
Encore

14. Welcome to the Jungle
15. Riad N' The Bedouins
16. Oh My God
17. You Could Be Mine (Bumblefoot on vocals)
*. Guitar solo
18. Prostitute

------------------------------
Second Encore

19. Dust N' Bones (with Izzy Stradlin)
20. Paradise City (with Izzy Stradlin)
 

Ok...here's my take


Chinese Democracy (replete with flashing video screens-CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!)
Better
Easy
YCBM
Sorry
Rocket Queen
Prostitute
I.R.S
If The World
Knockin
Jungle
Scraped
Nightrain
November Rain
Brownstone
Rhiad

Encore
This I Love
Sweet Child of Mine
Paradise City

Good idea! : ok:

I'd say definitely open the show with Chinese Democracy and come back from a break with Jungle... In between, I say mix it UP.  None of this:  "Drop Song A and replace it with Song B"... play Think About You one night and play Shackler's Revenge the next.

THIS IS THE BEST SOOOO FAR, lovin the "encore" YEAH

1_Welcome To The Jungle
2_It's So Easy
3_You Could Be Mine
4_ Better
5_Mr. Brownstone
6_Scraped
7_Coma
8_Live and Let Die
----------------------- Dizzy/Chris Solo (Set Change)
9_Don't Cry
10_Street of Dreams
11_This I Love
12_November Rain
----------------------- Fortus/Bumblefoot Solo (Set Change)
13_Sweet Child 'O Mine
14_Catcher In The Rye
15_Double Talkin' Jive
16_Civil War
17_Madagascar
18_Night Train
19_ My Michelle
----------------------- Encore
20_Chinese Democracy
21_There Was A Time
22_Used To Love Her
23_Paradise City

...its a pretty even mix of all the records. The UYI records have gotten no love from the new lineup which is kind of sad, I really want to hear them play some of these tracks live on the next tour.

AFD - 7
Lies - 1
UYI I & II - 6
CD - 8

CHINESE DEMOCRACY
SHACKLERS
MR BROWNSTONE
SORRY
SWEET CHILD
BETTER
STREET OF DREAMS
YCBM
CATCHER
NOVEMBER RAIN
I.R.S
pATIENCE
NIGHTREAIN
THERE WAS A TIME
ISE
IF THE WORLD

ENCORE
jUNGLE
MADAGASCAR
PARADISE

Old Staples: WTTJ, November Rain, Paradise City.  Have to play those 3.

rotate old songs, try incorporating some UYI stuff

play all of CD.

If I was asked to create a reasonable setlist for the next tour (and yes, I think I should be hired for this job), it would look something like this:

1 - Welcome to the Jungle
2 - Better
3 - Chinese Democracy
4 - It's So Easy
5 - Mr. Brownstone
6 - Street of Dreams
7 - Catcher in the Rye (stripped down version)
8 - Estranged
9 - You Could Be Mine
10 - Shackler's Revenge
11 - Madagascar
12 - Sweet Child o' Mine
13 - November Rain (with This I Love lead-in)
14 - Sorry
15 - Breakdown
16 - Patience
17 - Nightrain
18 - Rocket Queen
19 - There Was a Time

ENCORE

20 - Prostitute
21 - Civil War
22 - The Song Remains the Same (any cool cover will do, but I'll go with Led Zep)

SECOND ENCORE

23 - Paradise City


Edit: Forgot about Nightrain! Sorry boys, I couldn't take anything out, so the show will need to be about 4 minutes longer!!

I saw a couple people mention taking out some of the older songs/standards. If their "standards" that means they are standard to the setlist so they're not going anywhere. But I think it's kind of obvious which of the older songs will go (My Michelle, Outta Get Me) just to name a few. My only wish is that they have one less opening act next tour. I'm not EVEN implying that I think they should/could/ or would start their shows before Axl is ready but just have someone with a decent catalog play for about 90 minutes then set change, that puts you at around 9:30-10 for GNR to take their time to get on stage fashionably late and still play for 2.5+ hours. I also don't see them expanding the setlist to include more older songs but ya never know...............

Chinese Democracy
It's So Easy
Shackler's
Brownstone
Street of Dreams
IRS
TWAT
Patience
SCOM
Madagascar
This I Love
November Rain
You Could Be Mine
WTTJ
Estranged (Absolutely needs to start playing this one)

Better
If the World
Paradise City

I don't care otherwise but I NEED to hear This I Love live  :love:

I'd like to hear Scraped! That's all I ask : ok:

I'd love to see the whole album get in there, and just a few of the old hits..

1-Chinese Democracy
2-Shackler's Revenge
3-Scraped
4-It's So Easy
5-Mr Brownstone
6-Better
7-The Blues
8-If The World
9-Welcome to the Jungle
10-Riad N' The Bedouins
11-You Could Be Mine
12-Sorry
13-I.R.S
14-November Rain
15-Catcher in the Rye
16-Sweet Child of Mine
17-Madagascar
18-Prostitute

ENCORE
19-Paradise City
20-This I Love
21-There Was A Time

This is not my wish-list, but I can see this kind of setlist:

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Welcome To The Jungle
3. It's So Easy
4. Mr. Brownstone
5. You Could Be Mine
6. Street Of Dreams
7. Sweet Child O' Mine
8. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
9. Better
10. Sorry
11. November Rain
12. If The World
13. Patience
14. Out Ta Get Me
15. Scraped
16. This I Love
17. I.R.S.
18. Nightrain

Encores:

1. Madagascar
2. Rocket Queen
3. Paradise City

1 Chinese Democracy
2 It?s so Easy
3 Live and Let Die
4 Riad N? The Bedouins
5 Civil War
6 Sorry
7 Patience
8 Street of Dreams
9 There Was a Time
10 This I Love
11 Welcome to the Jungle
12 Shacklers Revenge
13 Better
14 Rocket Queen
15 Coma
16 Nightrain
17 Catcher in the Rye
18 Sweet Child O?Mine
19 You Could Be Mine
20 Paradise City

Tentative Setlist:
1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. It's So Easy                                           or Shackler's Revenge
3. Mr. Brownstone
4. Better
5. Scraped
6. This I Love
7. November Rain
8. Patience
9. Street of Dreams
10. Catcher in the Rye                               or There Was a Time
11. Knockin' on Heavens Door
12. Live and Let Die
13. Estranged                                            or Coma or A SPOT FOR A NEW SONG... haha
14. Sorry
15. Prostitute                                             or Madagascar
16. Human Being                                        or Down on the Farm
17. Perfect Crime                                        or Double Talkin' Jive
18. You Could Be Mine
19. Nightrain

Encore:
20. Chinese Democracy
21. Riad N' the Bedouins
22. Paradise City

1-Welcome to the Jungle (Gotta stick with it..Get both old and new gnr fans rockin right off the bat.)
2-Shackler's Revenge
3-You Could be mine or Mr.Brownstone
4-Better
5-Street of Dreams
6-If The World
7-There Was a Time
8-Sweet Child O Mine
9-Sorry
10-November Rain
11-Right Next Door To Hell  or Aint it Fun
12-It's So Easy or Rhiad and The Bedouins
13-Nightrain
14-This I Love
15-Prostitute
16-Estranged
17-Paradise City

Encore 1:
18-Chinese Democracy
19-Oh my god or I.R.S
20-Rocket Queen

Encore 2:
Coma

Would really love too see the band play the entire album in order.   

Setlist:
1 - Welcome to the jungle
2 - Its so easy
3 - Shacklers Revenge
4- Better
5 - SCOM
6 - Street of dreams
7 - YCBM
8 - IRS
9 - November rain
10 - Heavens door
11 - Catcher
12 - Rocket queen
13 - Sorry
14 - Scraped
15 - Patience
16- Prostitute
17 - Night train

- encore -
18 - Chinese
19 - This i love
20 - Madagascar

 - encore 2 -
21 - Twat
22 - Paradise city

Chinese Democracy
Shacklers
Mr  Brownatone
Sweet Child
Better
If the World
IRS
Sorry
November Rain
Twat
You could be mine
Scraped
Madagascar
Night train
catcher

encore
Welcome to the jungle
This I love
Paradiese city

Hmmm, a rough list would be:

-Welcome To The Jungle
-It's So Easy
-Shacklers Revenge
-Nightrain
-Better
-Madagascar
-You Could Be Mine
-Sorry
-Patience
-Don't Cry
-November Rain
-Rocket Queen
-Sweet Child O' Mine
-Estranged
-TWAT
-Prostitute


Encore:
-Chinese Democracy
-This I Love
-Paradise City


Something like that, anyway, hard to come up with a decent running order, but those are more or les the songs i would like to see

Check it.

Chinese Democracy
It's So Easy
You Could Be Mine
Better
The Blues (you heard me)
Sorry
November Rain
Welcome To The Jungle
Scraped
Shackler's Revenge
Sweet Child O' Mine
Civil War
Down On The Farm
Prostitute
Catcher In The Rye
This I Love
Patience
Nightrain

Encore
Riad N' The Bedouins
Paradise City




I would like to see variation in the sets though.  A different show each night.  :smoking:

i wish gnr played the whole chinese democracy live. 14 new songs + 5/6 old.

Not put to much time into this but here goes:

Cd to start seems fine.
The next three, I think a couple of old songs (nightrain, easy, maybe brownstone and then better as the 4th...)

would like to see oh my god but it probably won't happen... oh and estranged is always wanted.
think probably all new songs can be played, during a long tour...

to finish I think This I Love, PC and prostitute would fit nice

Chris Cornell recently played a few shows where he performed his new album in its entirety with no stops or deviations. I wouldn't mind seeing Guns do something similar with CD, only for a few dates.

Chinese
Jungle
Easy
Shackler
Brownstone
Live
YCBM
Sorry
KOHD
Horse
SCOM
Think
Catcher
November
Street
Rocket
I.R.S
Better
Perfect
Nightrain

Love
Prostitute

Paradice


Its a big one, I know, but It would be awesome.


 :peace:

Shit, i should have thought of that

In that case, the whole of CD and also:

-Jungle
-You Could Be Mine
-Sweet Child O' Mine
-Paradise City
-Estranged (Please, please, please, please, PLEASE!)
-

1-WTTJ
2-Brownstone
3-Better
4-YCBM
4-TIL
5-Hair of the Dog
6-SCOM
7-Scraped
8-CITR
9-It's So Easy
10-Nov. Rain
11-My Michelle
12-Patience
13-Live and Let Die
14-Don't Cry
15-TWAT
16-If the World
encore:
1-CD
2-Sorry
3-PC

Chinese Democracy
Its So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Shacklers Revenge
Think About You
Scraped
Sorry
Sweet Child O' Mine
TWAT
Civil War
Better
Catcher In The Rye
Patience
Street of dreams
November Rain
Madagascar
Don't Cry
Prostitute
Estranged

--Encore--
WTTJ
Nightrain
This I Love
Paradise City

Open with Civil War and save Jungle for the Encore

Stop closing with Paradise City - NR would be an incredible ending - especially with the fireworks they throw out there

Play most of CD.........please

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Shacklers Revenge
3. Perfect Crime
4. Mr Brownstone
5. Live and Let Die
6. Street Of Dreams
7. Knockin On Heavens Door
8. You Could Be Mine
9. TWAT
10. Better
11. Sweet Child O' Mine
12. If The World
13. November Rain
14. Riad N The Bedouins
15. Scraped
16. Nightrain

Encore
Welcome To The Jungle
Madagascar
This I love
Paradise City


alternate with Catcher In The Rye, Sorry some nights.

cd->sr->better

guitar solo/jam

sod->if the world->there was a time->citr
 
band jam/drum solo

scraped->riad->sorry>irs

band jam/estranged/piano solo

Madagascar->this i love->prostitute

encore

wttj->scom->pc



now that the album is out ;D

1) Don't Damn Me
2) Better
3) Mr. Brownstone
4) There Was A Time
5) Sorry
6) Street of Dreams
7) Patience
8) Axl Piano Solo
9) This I Love
10) Welcome to the Jungle
11) Knockin on Heaven's Door ('88-'93 version)
12) Don't Cry
13) Rocket Queen
14) Drum/Guitar Solo
15) Sweet Child O'Mine
16) If the World
17) IRS
18) Madagascar
19) Chinese Democracy
20) Prostitute

--Encore--
21) You're Crazy (Lies version)
22) Civil War
23) Paradise City

2nd & Final Encore
24) Estranged ("thank you... good fucking night!")

1. Chinese Democracy
2. It's So Easy
3. Better
4. I.R.S.
5. Mr. Brownstone
6. Dead Horse
7. Civil War
8. Sweet Child
9. November Rain
10. There Was a Time
Solo/Drums leading to a black out
11. Welcome to the Jungle
12. Night Train
13. Knockin on Heavin's Door
14. Madagascar
15. Street of Dreams
16. Sorry OR Catcher
17. This I Love
18. Estranged
Solo
Encore
18. Rocket Queen
20. Scraped
21. Prostitute
22. Yesterday
2nd Encore
23. Paradise City

1.Chinese Democracy
2.Shacklers Revenge
3.It's so Easy
4. Mr Brownstone
5.Live and Let Die
6.Better
7. Sweet Child O mine
8. You could Be Mine
9.Piano Solo, This I love
10.November Rain
11.Double Talkin Jive!!!
12. Civil war
13.Dont Cry
14.Welcome to the Jungle
15.Riad and the Bedouins
16.Rocket Queen
17.Patience
18.Knockin on Heavens Door(old school heavy version with crowd sing along)

Encore

19.Street of Dreams
20.Maddy or Catcher
21.Yesterdays
22. Paradise City

I'm so bored of the Appetite stuff, they should only play 2 or 3 songs of that in the encore. Rest of the setlist should be a nice balance of CD and Illusions.


Back to back like that....you want Axl to have a mental breakdown on stage?  :hihi:

But those 2 songs, above any, should be in the setlist, agreed.

Axl pretty much confirmed Estranged, and TIL is a no brainer.  : ok:

Chinese Democracy
It's So Easy
Mr Brownstone
You Could Be Mine
Shacklers Revenge
Better
Live & Let Die
Knockin' On Heavens Door
There Was A Time
Rhiad
Scraped
IRS
-solo-
This I Love
Street of Dreams
November Rain
Estranged
If The World
Madagascar
Prostitute
Don't Cry
Sweet Child O' Mine
Nighttrain

Welcome To The Jungle
Paradise City

Would love to hear them back to back.  :drool: 

as far as new songs.

Sorry
Scraped
TIL

Coma
Night Train
Don't Damn Me
Sorry
Out Ta Get Me
Prostitute
Brownstone
Scraped
Anything Goes
There Was A Time
KOHD / If The World (like in the old days when they'd start the reggae jam just trans into if the world)
Sweet Child Of Mine
Killer Queen (cover)
You Could Be Mine
Better
Don't Cry (dedicated to Shannon)
November Rain
Estranged
This I Love

Encore
Paradise City

1) Jungle
2)Its So Easy
3) Scrapped
4) Better
5) Knocking on Heavens Door
6) Sorry
7) Rocket Queen
8) Riad n The  Bedouins
9) Shackler's Revenge
10) OH my God
11) Your Crazy (Lies)
12)Patience
13) Sweet Child O Mine ( with Elton John's "The One" intro)
14) You Could be Mine
15) Nightrain
16)Dust N Bones featuring Izzy
17)There Was A Time
18)Catcher In The Rye
Encore 1
19)Chinese Democracy
20)If The World
21)Madagascar
22)Estranged
Encore 2
23) This I love
24) November Rain
25) Paradise City

Good Fucking Night...... Long ass show but i dont fucking care  :rofl:

Here is a kick ass one i was thinkin. And could happen give or take 2 or 3 songs & where afew of the songs are played in the set.


Chinese Democracy
Jungle
Shackler's Revenge
Oh My God (newer Verson*)
It's So Easy
Brownstone
Better
LALD
TWAT
Street Of Dreams
My Michelle
Catcher In The Rye
If The World
You Could Be Mine
Riad N' The Bedouins
Scraped
Sorry
Civil War
Madagascar
I.R.S.
Don't Cry
November Rain
Estranged
This I Love
Prostitute
Out Ta Get Me
Rocket Queen
Sweet Child
Patience
KOHD
Nightrain
P-City

Running time 2.8 hours  :beer:

haha would be great but no chance GnR have never played more than 18-20 songs. Pearl Jam are the only band ive seen who played 30

I made a totally crazy and long setlist that I won't even share with you...

All I ask is that they bring back:
Estranged
Don't Cry
Yesterdays
Pretty Tied Up.... and, maybe, perfect crime

And from ChiDem they add:
This I Love
If The World
CITR
Scraped

and of course keep the clasiscs ( and the ChiDem ones) they already play every single show... just mix up the order a little bit... :P

Jungle
ISE
Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Civil War
Rocket Queen
Better
You Could Be Mine
Estranged
I.R.S.
Don't Cry
My Michelle (This could rotate with Shackler's Revenge or Prostitute)
You're Crazy
This I Love (intro) --> November Rain
Nice Boys
Reckless Life
Patience
SCOM
Street Of Dreams
Nightrain

-------------------
E  N  C  O  R  E
-------------------
Perfect Crime
Catcher In The Rye (Could rotate with Madagascar)
Knockin' On Heaven's Door (this could rotate with Yesterdays)
Paradise City

I'd like to see a bit of a change....

1.    Reckless Life
2.    Shackler's Revenge
3.    It's So Easy
4.    Better
5.    Nighttrain
6.    You Could Be Mine
7.    Double Talkin Jive
8.    Scraped
9.    Catcher in the Rye
10.  Patience
11.  November Rain
12.  Prostitute
13.  Civil War
14.  Welcome to the Jungle
15.  Paradise City

encore:

16.  Chinese Democracy
17.  This I Love
18.  Rocket Queen

That would be awesome to totally fuck with people with PC. They'll think its all over then, smack out they come again. It would only work for maybe the 1st 3 or 4 shows before everyone got wise to it unless Guns done that every so often no as a regular thing.


 :peace:

In no particular order, but songs that I would want to hear:

Chinese Democracy
CD, SR, Better, ITW, TWAT, Sorry, TIL, Prostitute, IRS, Madagascar

Appetite For Desctruction
WTTJ, Nightrain, SCOM, PC, ISE, OTGM

Use Your Illusion 1/2
KOHD, NR, Civil War, Bad Obsession

Other Songs: Oh, My God

just imagine shacklers revenge live :drool:

and sorry scraped riad itw...unreal :drool:

The new song im most looking forward to hearing is Sorry, should be immense. Also i was at Wembley when they played Sailing it was amazing Axl has never sounded so good i would like that to become a constant cover in the set like KOHD

I'd love to hear TIL, but I have a feeling that it might be one of those songs that we only get to hear once or twice, if ever...

The singer of the band might pull a GITR/SB/DDM/MW and say that whatever I had to say, I said on the record and never perform it.

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Shackler's Revenge
3. Welcome To The Jungle
4. Its So Easy
5. Mr Brownstone
6. Street Of Dreams
7. Perfect Crime
8. Double Jive Talkin'
9. Scraped
9. Better
10. Riad
11. Civil War
12. Sweet Child O' Mine
13. November Rain
14. If The World
15. I.R.S.
16. Sorry
17. You Could Be Mine
18. Prostitute

ENCORE

19. Madagascar
20. This I Love
21. Paradise City

What a stunning setlist. My choice exactly.  :yes:

Something like:

-Welcome To The Jungle
-It's So Easy
-You Could Be Mine
-Better
-Sweet Child O' Mine
-There Was A Time
-Rocket Queen
-Patience
-Don't Cry
-November Rain
-Sorry
-Madagascar
-This I Love
-Nightain
-Prostitute
Encore:
-Chinese Democracy
-Estranged
-Paradise City


Also throw in I.R.S., If The World, Street Of Dreams one or two others at gigs

But i would be just as happy if they did what they did with the UYI tour and just do different sets each night, with just a handful of regular songs, which imo should be:

-Jungle
-Sweet Child
-Paradise City
-This I Love
-Prostitute
-You Could Be Mine

Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the Jungle
Shackler's Revenge
You Could Be Mine
Mr. Brownstone
Don't Cry
Sorry
Scraped
Civil War
Dead Horse
There Was a Time
Sweet Child O'Mine
Street of Dreams
November Rain
Prostitute
Patience
Nightrain
Rocket Queen

ENCORE:
Estranged
This I Love
Paradise City

my dream set list is one that changes every night like back in the day. the unexpected is what made them great. and made each show special. id love to hear something completly out of left field like: "yesterdays" or "14 years"

I'd really like to hear This I love live.

In this Order:

WTTJ
Scraped
CD
Sorry
Catcher
If The World
TWAT
IRS
Shacklers
Its So Easy
Nighttrain
Out Ta Get Me
SCOM
You're Crazy (lies/live era)
You Could Be Mine
Back of Bitch
Paradise City
Mr Brownstone
Madagascar
Don't Cry

ENCORE:
Street of Dreams
November Rain
Rocket Queen

All i have to say in this thread is that it is more than likley we will here Don't Cry, Prostitute and Estranged in the upcoming shows..  Don't cry is a given as he sang the song in the last few shows of the 2007 tour.  Prostitute because Axl gave us all a teaser as the intro to November Rain during the 2006/07 tour and we never even knew it was actually part of a song to be released on CD and Estranged as the man even said himself he would like to have it back..

All other songs,  ill take any setlist no matter what songs they play, All i want is to see these guys play live again  :peace:

my 2 cents..

- Jungle
- Brownstone
- Easy
- Live and let Die
- Scraped
- Rhiad
- Civil War
- Think about You
- Catcher
- Used to Lover her
- Patience
- Reckles Life
- Street of Dreams
- Move to the City
- Scom
- Rocket Queen
- You Could be Mine
- IRS
- Nightrain

Encore

- Don't Cry
- Prostitute
- Sorry
- Coma
- Paradise City

I think you're a bit confused.

Jungle
Shackler's
If The World
Sweet Child
Sorry
Catcher
Perfect Crime
My Michelle
The Blues
Rocket Queen
Civil War
Scraped
Out Ta Get Me
November Rain
You Could Be Mine
Nightrain
Prostitute

Encore:
Chinese Democracy
IRS
Patience
Paradise City

i wouldn't mind a few of the classics being played, but for the most part, i'd much rather them showcase the new, future classics. regardless of what axl and the gunners decide, i'm sure it will be amazing.

Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge

Encore:
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge
Shackler's Revenge

i agree

Very good, I like this

Honestly if all GNR did was perform Chinese Democracy sequentially, I would fucking love that. Wouldn't even care the  show wouldn't be very long because of it. I want to hear each and every one of these songs live. Each and every last one of them.

Wow, you guys went to every show on the previou tour? I'd like to have that kind of money. I mean, wow, you went to so many shows you got bored of the setlist? Tell me, just how many shows did you go to?  ::)

I agree and disagree, I think they should open with WTTJ as that's what they've been doing for years but after welcome, play about 7-10 songs from democracy, then close with a mix of AFD, Lies, UYI, and Democracy.  Something like:
WTTJ
Scraped (because it's a bit of a unkown rocker; that really breaks GnR down as towhat their all about)
CD (1st singlr - makes sense)
Sorry (because of the survivor results how well it placed)
Catcher (great segwui into more intricate compostions)
If The World (great follow up into more intricate compositions)
TWAT (additional great follow up into more intricate compositions)
IRS (getting back to what gnR did so well)
Shacklers - a little different, in the veign of it's so easy - 
Its So Easy - one of their best rockers
Nighttrain - one of their best rockers
Out Ta Get Me - one of their best rockers (ISE, Nightrain, and OTGM are so difficult to separate-all 3 go together)
SCOM - great riff, lead, solo, and vocals
You're Crazy (lies/live era) - great groove, vocals

You Could Be Mine - AFD era (coulda replaced My Michelle or Thank About You)
Back of Bitch - AFD era (coulda replaced My Michelle or Thank About You)
Paradise City -  A+ rocker
Mr Brownstone -  A+ rocker
Madagascar - great song
Don't Cry - didn't fit AFD

ENCORE:
Street of Dreams
November Rain
Rocket Queen

Openign with jungle, than playing a steady stream of democracy songs, followed by a mix of AFD and UYI is probably the best way to handle their lineup changes

no one's stopping you now stopping you now  :D

Nightrain
You Could Be Mine
Mr. Brownstone
I.R.S.
Better
Paradise City
Street Of Dreams
Catcher In The Rye
Sweet Child O' Mine
There Was A Time
Welcome To The Jungle
November Rain
Patience
Knocking On Heaven's Door
Chinese Democracy
It's So Easy
Down On The Farm
Sorry
Madagascar
This I Love
Estranged

Robin being in or out shouldn't make that big a difference as far as how they decide the setlist.  If he's in, great, nothing line-up wise changes.  If he's out then I'm sure whomever they get to replace him will do a more-than-adequate job with both the old and new material.  As far as how/if Brain and Frank will be alternating the drumming duties, whichever one is onstage at any given show still doesn't constitute it as a "line-up change" so I don't see any problem with that neither.

IMO, the setlist (including encore) should start and end with something from CD and include ALL the songs off the album mixed with some of the AFD and UYI songs ... but each 'segment' should start and end with a CD song.  :yes:

I would like to see Paradise end the first run and either Nightrain or Rocket end the show.


 :peace:

Well everybody's picks so far are very interesting. Here's my Wish Setlist for a New GN'R live show....Well this is really a list of songs that I believe that would make sence to play to the general population and also because most of these songs that I picked are very well known to most people (most were either singles, videos, played in movies or played on radio a ton of times)....I'd say at lease 95% of people would recognize all or almost all of these songs. If I were to pick a setlist for GN'R to play just for me I know that I'd pick a few songs that are not so common, but I think this Setlist that I made up is one that would make for an Awesome show for any type of GN'R fan, casual or die-hard. Anyway here's what I think would make for a great live show now adays from the Gunners.  ;)

Chinese Democracy
Shackler's Revenge
Mr. Brownstone
It's So Easy
Live & Let Die
If The World
Street Of Dreams
Welcome To The Jungle
You Could Be Mine
Sweet Child O' Mine
Rocket Queen
Better
Don't Cry
November Rain
Patience
Use To Love Her
Nightrain
Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Encore #1
Yesterdays
I.R.S.

Encore #2
Madagascar
Paradise City

welcome to the jungle
it's so easy
chinese democracy
mr browstone
better
the blues
knockin on heavens door
prostitute
my michelle
you could be mine
sorry
november rain
this i love
nighttrain
irs
civil war
madagascar
sweet child of mine
paradise city

Guns N' Roses? Moving Forward ? To Infinity and Beyond Tour 2009

Setlist:
Chinese Democracy
Shackler?s Revenge
Better
Shine On You Crazy Diamond (cover)
Richard?s Solo then duet w/Tommy going into
Tommy?s ?Village Gorilla Head? Songs Mix Solo
Street Of Dreams
If The World
There Was A Time
Chris? ?Sextapes? Songs Mix Solo with special guests Sextapes (band)
Catcher In The Rye
Scraped
Riad N? The Bedouins
Ron?s ?Abnormal? Songs Mix Solo
House Of The Rising Sun (cover)
Sorry
I.R.S.

Encores:
Madagascar
This I Love
Prostitute

What? No Tom Jones covers?

 :hihi:




/jarmo

"Its not unusual"  ::)

No but I bet Axl would do a killer job covering Tiny Tim's cover of Livin' in the Sunlight, Lovin' in the Moonlight!!! :headbanger:



::)  No shit.
He was there when they did that so kindly keep your rolling eyes out of other peoples jokes.

My dreamlist:

1. Night Train
2. Shacklers Revenge
3. Chinese Democracy
4. Welcome To The Jungle
5. Locomotive
6. Pretty Tied Up
7. Double Talking Jive
8. Civil War
9. Sorry
10. Scraped
11. Madagascar
12. This I Love
13. November Rain

14. Knocking On Heavens Door (illusions style)
15. Sweet Child O'Mine
[edit] 16.  Move to the city
[edit] 17. Patience
18. Paradise City

setlist can be whatever songs they want to play :)   Particuarly anxious to hear anything old or new that they haven't played yet. 

They should take the best songs from A.T.D; Lies; Use ILL I & II and C.D. Put each song in a huge hat and have each band member pick a song out until there are none left. As each member picks out the song that is the one they play. This way each concert will have all the best songs but played in a different order for each concert. (They can do this while they are backstage before the show.) I know this sounds radical but G&R are a radical band.

Would you guys prefer a setlist for the upcoming tour that is dominated by Chinese Democracy, meaning playing the album in its entirety or practically in entirety, or would you prefer a setlist more similar to what we have been used to in recent years, with a few more CD songs mixed in here and there? I'm ok with both, but would love to see Chinese Democracy being played live in its entirety. That idea really excites me, as I'm dying to hear every song live.

Both, like the majority of the bands...

A classic band need to mix the set between classic tunes n' new ones (just as many of the bands with more than 20 years)
And also, with a new album in the street the set needs to be dominate (more than usual) by the last album...

I agree to a certain extent, though I feel that the emphasis should be on the present rather than the ugly past of this band. I think Axl would prefer it that way too.

Anyway, I don't know about you guys, but looking at these setlists that people in this thread set up, doesn't it feel fucking amazing to see new, released material next to the classic GN'R catalogue? ;D The first thought that strikes me when seeing them is that they truly belong up there and do the old material justice! :beer: Here's to a bright, new chapter in GN'R's history! We're finally here! :beer:

1) Welcome to the Jungle
2) Shackler's Revenge
3) It's So Easy
4) Riad N' The Bedouins
5) You Could Be Mine - with a crazy drum fill in the beginning - not a full blown solo i.e. sorum, but just a mini 1-2 min fill.
6) Better
Ashba Solo Spot
7) Sweet Child O' Mine
8] If The World - with band jam intro
9) Mr. Brownstone
10) Rocket Queen / Knockin' On Heaven's Door - rotation
11) There Was A Time / Madagascar - rotation
Dizzy & Pitman Keyboard Jam / Synth solo spot - with a moving the piano jam intro
12) Street of Dreams / Catcher in the Rye - rotation
13) This I Love
Band Introduction & Axl Piano Solo / The Asshole Song  :hihi:
14) November Rain
Fortus Solo Spot
15) Prostitute - moving back the piano occurs during the end instrumental of the song so no need 4 a jam
16) My Michelle / Live N Let Die / I.R.S. - rotation
17) Sorry
18) Don't Cry
19) Patience
20) Scraped / Down On The Farm / Out Ta Get Me - rotation
BBF's solo spot
21) Nightrain
Encore:
22) Chinese Democracy
23) Paradise City

:drool: that would be my dream show!
i think it's pretty realistic to what they would do; it flows & makes sense... breaks 2 catch breathers, rotations so it doesnt get stale 4 the band, etc.
all we can do is wait and see 8)

01. Get In The Ring
02. It's So Easy
03. Shackler's Revenge
04. Nightrain
05. Better
06. Sorry
07. It's Alright / November Rain
08. Shotgun Blues
09. Breakdown
10. Mama Kin
11. Riad N' The Bedouins
12. I.R.S.
13. Sweet Child O' Mine
14. Rocket Queen
15. Estranged
16. Scraped
17. Don't Damn Me
18. Street Of Dreams
19. Sailing / There Was A Time
20. Welcome To The Jungle

ENCORE
21. This I Love
22. Coma
23. Catcher In The Rye
24. Paradise City

The new tour would have to start with Chinese Democracy. Ain't no other way....

Ideally, they should mix it up a bit. My ideal setlist would have 8 songs from Democracy, 4 from AFD, 5 from the illusions, 1 from Lies, and a cover (Sailing gets my vote)

Chinese Democracy
Shackler's
It's so Easy
Live and Let Die
Better
TWAT
YCBM
Civil War
This I love
NR
Welcome to the Jungle
Sweet Child
Madagascar
Patience
Sailing
Knocking on Heavens Door
Catcher in the Rye

--

Street of Dreams
Nightrain
Paradise City

Chinese Democracy
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Live and Let Die
If The World
Better
My Michelle
You Could Be Mine
Rhiad & The Bedouins
Rocket Queen
November Rain
Patience
Sweet Child O' Mine
There Was A Time
Knocking On Heavens Door (Full Band UYI like Version)

(Encore)

Welcome To The Jungle
Nightrain
Street Of Dreams

(Encore)

Prostitute
This I Love
Paradise City

Ok, not that I claim that I think like Axl Rose or anything, but I honestly think that this setlist is as close to possible to what we may be seeing and hearing in the future. Staying true to how the other sets have been in 2002, 2006, 2007 but also highlighting the album properly would most likely be Axl's number one agenda. Being as most of us are seeing that Chinese Democracy would be a killer opener for the show, it only makes sense to put Welcome To The Jungle as an encore opener. Whether Axl would agree or not, not one can say for sure. The band may also decide to rotate songs of course because let's face it they're not going to perform 30 songs a night, my guesses for rotation are the following.

-Think About You
-Used To Love Her
-I.R.S.
-Sorry
-Catcher In The Rye
-Nice Boys
-Down On The Farm

Below are other songs I actually considered, but don't really seem to be too realistic at this point, at least to me and also reading Dexter's homework as to where he wants the future of GNR to go.

Estranged
Coma
Civil War
Get In The Ring
Double Talkin' Jive (Never again since it was written to spite Izzy, they're cool with each other again)

-As much as I'd like to see these performed again, I think were S.O.L. for the most part as Axl clearly stated that he's really concentrating more on Chinese than going out his way to perform oddities. Don't Cry would be the only exception that he may pull out again being as this was performed instrumental throughout the last tour and once in it's entirety in Japan.

I agree. Great song to begin with. I heard it Live in 2006 it's really a powerfull song.

glad to see most of us can agree on this.
me being so diehard of cd, my dream set would be the 14 songs from cd plus omg, silkworm and some old songs and new songs or whatever they like in between or for encores.

I disagree.  I would start with Scraped.  Perfect opening song for this band...

Not exactly what I'd like to see, but what I expect...

AFD = WTTJ, It's So Easy, Brownstone, Paradise City, SCOM, Rocket Queen
Lies = Patience
UYI = YCBM, L&LD, November Rain, KOHD
CD = Chinese Democracy, Shackler's Revenge, Better, Street of Dreams, This I Love, If The World, Sorry

 i`d like him to sing prostitute at some point in the set and at the piano out-ro at the end i think he should pick someone out of the crowd and dance with them kind of like how bono does it !

Welcome to the Jungle
It's so Easy
Shackler's Revenge
Better
DJ Ashba solo
Axl Rant n?1
If the World
Catcher in the Rye
Scraped
Coma
Richard solo
Axl Rant n?2
Rocket Queen
Sorry
Sweet Child O'Mine
Band Jam
This I Love
November Rain
Don't Cry
Axl Rant n?3
Bumblefoot solo
Breakdown
There Was a time
Nightrain

Encore:

Prostitute
Estranged
Paradise City

And after that, I think I wouldn't know what to do with my life...  :drool:

WTTJ
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Perfect Crime
Catcher In the Rye
Out Ta Get Me
Breakdown
Patience
Used To Love Her
You're Crazy
Rocket Queen
Yesterdays
Double Talkin Jive

November Rain
Live and Let Die
Knockin On Heaven's Door
Nightrain
Think About You
Sweet Child
Locomotive
Whole Lotta Rosie
There Was A Time
Civil War
Nice Boys
Estranged
Paradise City

With the number of new songs in your setlist, I hope you saw the Use Your Illusion tour (or keep watching those DVDs).  :P



Edit: I have a feeling that this is the reason you got banned in the past. Why do you keep coming back?





/jarmo

Chinese Democracy
Its So Easy
Mr Brownstone
Sweet Child O Mine
Better
Street Of Dreams
Scraped
You Could Be Mine
Out To get me
Prosititute
Civil War
Don't Cry
Catcher N The Rye
Patience
Used To Love Her
November Rain
Since I don't Have you

Encore
WTTJ
Shacklers Revenge
Madagascar

I caught a couple of shows during the '92 Illusion tour. Without a doubt, the best live shows I have ever seen. Those stadiums were crazy packed. Pure magic.

Like Sorum said years back, that kind of magic will never happen again. Luckily, I do have those dvds. Which reminds me, I really do need to break those out sometime soon.  :)

Sorry, friend. I think you got the wrong guy. 

I've never been banned from here.   ???

You should stick to the Dead Horse section from now on.  : ok:

Just a friendly suggestion before it's too late.


Several people who "prefer the old band" have made the mistake of "posting their honest opinion" in the wrong threads in the wrong section over and over and over again....

FYI: I have no problems kicking people out for that kind of trolling. I don't care if you prefer the old band. There's a place for everything and often your kind of people don't get that. They think the place for old band discussions are in threads dedicated to the current band, the album, the new songs or anything else relating to stuff that has happened within the last 10+ years.



/jarmo

What if I like both versions of the band? Are you saying that I can't post in a certain section if I prefer one to the other?

Besides, who's talking about the "old band"? I'm in a thread that asked the question, "what my setlist wishes" would be, and I answered accordingly. I never brought up any ex-members, and I never dissed anything that the new band is doing.  ???

Just trying to get where you're coming from. Is this because I didn't personally "wish" for more new songs than I did? If the thread had asked, what new songs I wanted to hear, I would have listed only the new songs.

To insinuate that's trolling, and threatening to kick me out because of that seems kind of extreme. Not to mention, the clumping me into a category called "my kind". I guess since they have extreme sports, why not have extreme moderating?  :hihi:

If you read my post, it's quite clear what I said.

If your idea of posting here consists of trolling this section by posting about the old band in threads that have nothing to do with that era, then stay out.

Can it be more clear?



So let me get this straight, while the majority of fans who have heard the new album wants to hear those songs performed live, you want a full two (2) of them to be performed.

That's less new songs than in 2002, 2006 and 2007. Tours that happened before the album was out.

This thread isn't about your all time dream setlist. It's about what songs from the album you think would fit where in the set.

It also seems like most people except you got that, since they actually include a reasonable amount of new songs in their own setlists.

So either you're taking the piss, you don't like the new songs and/or you think two new songs is a reasonable amount.



And if you don't like the songs, you could still play along and guess where some of the new songs that you dislike would fit in a setlist.



Extreme trolls require extreme measures.

There's no need to play nice with people like that.





/jarmo

It's perfectly clear. I just really don't see why it is that you are telling me this. Hell, I would have never guessed that me not posting more new songs in "my setlist wishes" would have been construed as me "trolling about the old band". Aside from a political forum, this is the only forum I post at. To be honest, it seems a little more political here than the one that I go to that actually discusses politics. But whatever ... your forum (I'm assuming) ... your right.

Keep in mind ... I simply posted my setlist wishes. You were the one who brought up the UYI tour and dvds.


Umm ... yeah. I guess that is what I was saying. But I can't say that I said it to derail the thread, start controversy, or to piss you off. Those 2 songs that I mentioned are my favorite from the album. By only mentioning those 2, I wasn't implying that I hate the new album, Axl's bandmembers, or that I am "one of those kind" that are praying for Slash to come back.

There are just other songs that I would prefer to hear from the back catalogue that I find more appealing; especially in a live setting.


Well, the thread's title is sure misleading then.

"Setlist Wishes: Now That We've Heard the Album" to me, suggests that now that we know offically what Chinese Democray's tracklist consists of, what would I like the setlist to be on the next tour?

That's how I interpreted the thread's question, and I answered it honestly. If there was a minimum amount of new songs that you required to be used in my setlist wishes, a disclaimer should have been added stating such.


The answer is the latter of the two. I thought that it was a reasonable amount based on what my setlist wishes are, and the songs that are available to choose from.


What songs do I dislike? I simply stated the songs that would be "my setlist wishes".

Seriously, I assure you ... you are reading entirely too much into this.    :hihi:




If that's the case, great. Go and find yourself a guy/girl who is here to "troll" and harass that person. Judging by your inability to accept an opinion other than your own, it shouldn't be too difficult to find an individual who pisses you off.

CD
scraped
RATB
Better
mr brownstone
CITR
Shacklers revenge
SOD
November rain
madagascar
patience
IRS
sorry
YCBM
Nightrain

encore

prostitute
this i love
paradise city

With me in front row

And then my life would be complete!

I happened to notice that you only listed 12 of the 14 songs on 'CD'.

By doing so, I hope there was no ill intent on your part.  :hihi:

Kidding.

^^no fella, just badly wantin a tour! :beer:

You're not helping yourself at all...


Like I told you not too long ago, you got my attention.

Don't think this is the first time I've seen you do something "funny"......




Pisses me off? Get a fucking clue.

I just don't like smart asses that come here thinking they can start shit and when I say something about it I'll run away afraid of being accused of harassing some poor innocent poster.



I even pointed out to you that your opinion doesn't fucking matter and that there's a place for everything.

So it's kinda like I already acknowledged that people have different opinion didn't I?

So put that thought somewhere safe and keep it there. The usual crying about "you don't respect my opinions because it differs from yours".

The same excuse all attention seekers use because I have no interest in talking about the old band in threads that have nothing to do with them.

I don't give a fuck if you think 1987 was the highlight of mankind. Fine, that's your opinion, but not every thread is about 1987!




I've explained this to you and you just don't get it.

No disclaimer is needed because it seems like most others have common sense.


Edited to add: The explanation is in the FIRST sentence of the first post:


So obviously it's not just about what you want to hear as I pointed out.





/jarmo

I'd be lying if I were to say I wasn't flattered, but I think I should tell you that I'm happily engaged.

I think it was my sense of humor that originally caught her attention too.   ;)



I don't blame you for not liking smart asses that are here to stir shit. If I was moderating a forum, I'd probably have a similar stance on that type of nonsense.

My argument is, I'm not sure why it is that I'm getting this lecture?

All because I only chose (2) songs as my setlist wish? Really? That warrants this undeserved scrutiny and name-calling?


Yeah, you did say that. But your actions, namecalling, and threatening me, all because I only listed (2) songs in my setlish wish doesn't seem to suggest that you really feel that way.



Umm ... ok. Again, just so I can try to keep up ... where exactly did I talk about the old band in this thread and where did I ever mention the year 1987?

I simply (with no agenda attached) gave my setlist wish. Immediately, you followed up that response with, "I hope you saw a UYI show and / or own the videos". So, I followed that back up with "YES, I have seen UYI shows, and YES I do own the videos, and they were great".

Just as a reminder, Axl was the frontman of that era, and I said the shows were the best I have ever seen. Why you think me enjoying that period suggests that I wish the year was 1987 again is really beyond me?




You're right, Jarmo. The title "Setlist Wishes: Now That We've Heard the Album" clearly indicates that there is a minimum number of new songs REQUIRED to be posted. I honestly have no clue what I was thinking.


Well, I'll admit to fault here. I guess I overlooked that post. Next time I'll be sure to re-review the thread several times to avoid being cyber bullied for no real reason.

Peace.
 

Apology accepted.

Yeah, maybe next time read before starting smart ass arguments.....  : ok:

And I was making general statements regarding attention seekers coming here to post about the old band in every other thread.

It's not about not understanding that people have different opinions, it's about not wanting to hear those opinions in threads that have nothing to do with them!




/jarmo

The more I listen to the album the more I think the only song I really don't care to hear live is Shacklers Revenge. And I wouldn't be "upset" if they did play it, I'd just rather hear something else.

And I hope to God that CD is the set opener every night.

This a great set list!

great setlist, except this:


5 power ballads in a row?
shijeeeeet...even the most hardcore fan would hit the beer tent at this stage to get some rest...

break that up with a fast rocker....at least one...

Jungle
Easy
Brownstone
Better
Think about you
You could be mine
Madagascar
Prostitute
November rain
Sweet Child O'mine
Civil War
Nightrain
(Encore)
Chinese Democracy
Your Crazy
Paradise City

Awesome! Here's a person who must've been extremely happy with the setlists in 2006-7! Nice to see as a contrast to all those who stayed at home whining about them.  :P

All of the songs with the exception of two were played during those tours.





/jarmo

i hope they chinese democracy in it's entirety.  twice maybe.  i'd be perfectly happy with no songs from the old 'band.'  why dwell on the past? 

Thanks Jarmo,

I actually left TWAT off by mistake. Saw them play it at Hammerstein and I believe thats the only time they ever played it live. I thought that was the highlight of the night for me.

Im sure Axl wouldnt want to ignore material that he is proud of and worked hard on. The old material is what made Guns 'n'Roses who they are. But your entitled to your opinion.

I'd like to hear more songs from UYI like DTJ, "Coma," and "Yesterdays." I'd also like to hear several songs from CD.

come on. when played by this band in this century they weren't half bad.  

I wish you 2 knew how to quote. :-\

2006-07 setlists were very very good, new and old songs very well mixed, when I saw Guns in Madrid I was very happy with the setlist, very good job by the band  : ok:

The first three tracks of the album should be the opener. It flows perfectly to me - as good as WTTJ, ISE and Mr. Browstone.

Chinese Democracy
Shackler's Revenge
Better
Live And Let Die
Street Of Dreams
You Could Be Mine
Sweet Child O' Mine
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
If The World
November Rain
IRS
Used To Love Her
Patience
Nightrain
Prostitute

Jungle/Rhiad
This I Love/Madagascar
Paradise City

 :P

Since guns are touring again and we've all seen the setlists I have to say there are some gems on the illusions that need to see the light of day.
Since 02 guns have always played a very heavy appetite setlist. Now in my opinion guns should never do a gig without nightrain, 'easy', jungle or sweet child but they always play 'brownstone', out ta get me n my michelle, songs which need a rest I think.
Stuff like double talkin jive, pretty tied up n perfect crime really need to be played again.

Im just sayin those songs would be deadly live and id be willing to sacrifice a few appetite songs to hear em live.

anybody agree or does anybody wana tell me to stop hating? ha

Same here, some great Illusions songs have been left out in the past...

Double Talking Jive
Dust n' bones
you ain't the first
Bad Obsession ♥
Back of bitch
14 years
pretty tied up ♥

mostly because I'd be curious to hear those particular songs from Axl now that his voice has grown the way it has.
I think it's in top shape.

I like the stuff they keep playing from Appetite, I've always missed some Spaghetti in the setlist (human being, hair of the dog, buick mackane ♥ would be ideal for live shows)

As for CD, I love the whole album (except Scraped) so I'd be happy with anything, but I think it would be wiser to promote the most commercial songs, such as CD, Shackler, Better, TWAT, IRS, This I Love).


Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the jungle
Shackler
Nightrain
Mr. Brownstone
hair of the dog
you ain't the first
14 years
IRS
Don't cry
Sorry
pretty tied up
Back of bitch
human being
Double Talking Jive
buick mackane
This I Love
November rain
Dust n' bones
TWAT
Street of dreams
Sweet child of mine

ENCORE:
Bad Obsession
Mama kin
Better
Paradise city

How long of a show is this? ;D

01. Chinese Democracy

02. Welcome To The Jungle

03. It's So Easy

04. Mr Brownstone

05. Catcher In The Rye

06. Sorry

07. Perfect Crime

08. Richard Solo

09. Live And Let Die

10. Dizzy Solo (Ziggy)

11. Street of Dreams

12. You Could Be Mine

13. Yesterdays

14. My Michele

15. DJ Solo

16. Sweet Child O' Mine

17. Shackler's Revenge

18. Madagascar

19. Axl Piano Solo

20. November Rain

21. Whole Lotta Rosie

22. Estranged

23. Scraped

24. Prostitute

25. This I Love

26. Frank Solo

27. Right Next Door To Hell

28. Bumblefoot Solo (Pink Panther) / Don't Cry

29. Nightrain

ENCORE

30. Civil War

31. There Was A Time

32. Tommy Solo - My Generation

33. Better

34. Patience

35. Nice Boys

36. Paradise City

It's tough to top what GNR has recently done with their setlist, but I deleted some I could do without hearing and
added Civil War, Perfect Crime, Right Next Door To Hell, Estranged, and Yesterdays.

i think NOBODY can whine about setlists anymore. Anybody trying to do so will look as a clown no matter what.

BUT, if GNR decides to swap songs, I would erase Patience and include Oh My God, and erase KOHD to include Riad.

GNR just did a show including TWAT, NovRain, Catcher, TIL, Prostitute and Dont Cry.

This is living history guys. We will remember these days for the rest of our lives  :beer:

I think the setlist is great as it is (how could it not be  ;D), but if I can make a personal wish, I would like to see the following songs added:

- Breakdown
- Estranged
- Double talkin' Jive
- Coma
- Shadow of your Love (wouldn't that be great??)

Some songs of Appetite may take a rest.
But again, no complaining here. The setlists in Osaka and Tokyo were amazing!!!!!!!

I love Oh My God. Always have, always will. One of my fave GN'R songs. I think the RIR3 version of Oh My God kicked ass. The chorus was just pounding and heavy as fuck. Would love for it to make a return live.

yes  :peace: Oh my God is one of my favorite 'new' songs too (and Riad). Wonder why they didn't play it for a while now

I'm thinking with the way Axl's voice is at the moment, he could really kick the shit out of 'Yesterdays'.

Anything Goes,Breakdown,Coma,Locomotive,Garden of Eden,My World,Civil War,Sympathy for the Devil,Aint it fun,One in a Million...

ALong with whatever they like.

..and i d like Crash Diet to be performed live  :drool: but that's just me...  :hihi:

Songs like "Locomotive", "Coma", "Pretty tied up" , these are like "Slash's babies" in the Illusions, so i dont expect to hear them ever again live by UncleAxl  :hihi: :hihi:

No complains or wishes at all. Cannot complain after Osaka and Tokyo

1. Dead Horse
2. Bad obsession
3. Right next door
4. Jungle
5. Paradise City
6. Prostitute
7. Rocket Queen
8. DTJ
9. Perfect Crime
10. Don't Cry
11. Scraped
12. Better
13. Pretty Tied up
14. YCBM
15. You're Crazy
16. Shadow of your love
17. Sorry
18. Locomotive
19. Ain't it fun
20. Out to get me

Encore:

Its so easy
Only Women Bleed

Pretty tied up is credited solely to Izzy. This wouldn't be the case if Slash had a large hand in the composition.

Estranged.. then I'm happy  :)

Osaka and Tokyo are the best setlists ever! If they keep that up I'll be bumping up and down of pure joy the whole year 2010 ;D

Yup, my favorite GNR-song, i dont believe they are going to play that but they played Don't Cry too so..  :peace:

I would like to hear live from the UYI albums: Civil War, Estranged, Double Talkin Jive, Dont Damn Me, Dead Horse and Yesterdays. Oh My God would be nice too, the RiR3 version was a million times better than the end of days soundtrack.

Cant wait for the 25th of March!!  :peace:

I think the reason that lots of the Illusion eras arent making it are because of Izzy. I doubt Axl is going to sing 14 years of DN'B. Also, although Axl and Slash and have their differences (understatement of the year), it seems like Axl is paying respect to songs like Estranged (in the linear notes of UYI2, he thanks him fro the killer melodies).

However, if I was at a live show and heard Estranged, Id probably cry haha. Its the song that made me who I am today musically. It got me into piano and guitar, and helped me through some tough times. Simply one of the best songs ever written, and Im sure as hell Axl and Bumblefoot could nail it.

And with CD selections, my god, we coudnt ask for anything more. Almost the whole album in one night, plus other classics? These guys are on fire, and theyve only done like four shows!