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Title: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: adman2374 on November 20, 2008, 02:52:53 PM
1. This I Love
2. Prostitute
3. Sorry
4. Madagascar
5. TWAT
6. Catcher
7. The Blues
8. Riad
9. If the World
10. Shackler's
11. Chinese
12. Scraped
13. IRS
14. Better


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Cocaine__tongue on November 20, 2008, 03:03:50 PM
TIL
Prostitute
Street of Dreams
Catcher
TWAT
Madagascar
Better
Scrapped
Shackler's
Chinese
Sorry
If the world
Riad
IRS


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: widevu on November 20, 2008, 03:05:55 PM
catcher
twat
this i love
madagascar
street of dreams
IRS
if the world
chinese democracy
better
scraped
shacklers
prostitute
sorry
riad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: 123191 on November 20, 2008, 03:08:10 PM
1. This I Love
2. Prostitute
3. Sorry
4. Madagascar
5. TWAT
6. Catcher
7. The Blues
8. Riad
9. If the World
10. Shackler's
11. Chinese
12. Scraped
13. IRS
14. Better

Prostitute
This I Love
Better
Madagascar
TWAT
Catcher
Sorry
Riad
If The World
Shackler's
Chinese
Street of Dreams
Scraped
IRS


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: hooliganscomics on November 20, 2008, 03:11:23 PM
Catcher In The Rye
Better
Prostitute (man has this song grown on me)
Chinese Democracy
Shacklers Revenge
Sorry (solo is amazing)
Scraped
There Was A Time
Street Of Dreams
Madagascar
This I love
I.R.S
Riad N' The Bedouins
If The World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: benfolds4980 on November 20, 2008, 03:16:00 PM
There Was A Time
Prostitute
This I Love
Better
Sorry
If The World
Madagascar
I.R.S.
Chinese Democracy
Street of Dreams
Catcher in the Rye
Shackler's Revenge
Scraped
Riad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Better Gunner on November 20, 2008, 03:17:50 PM
Better
Sorry
Madagascar
I.R.S
Scraped
Catcher In The Rye
Prostitute
Street Of Dreams
This I love
There Was A Time
Chinese Democracy
Riad N' The Bedouins
Shackler's Revenge
If The World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: circusboy666 on November 20, 2008, 03:18:21 PM
1-prostitute
2-madagascar
3-riad and the bedouins
4-street of dreams
5-shacklers
6-chinese democracy
7-better
8-if the world
9-irs
10-twat
11-catcher in the rye
12-sorry
13-scraped
14-this i love

its awesome to see how everyone has comletely different favorites


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: GNR4L on November 20, 2008, 03:20:30 PM
1. Better
2. This I Love
3. If The World
4. Riad N' The Bodouins
5. Street Of Dreams
6. IRS
7. Catcher in the rye
8. Prositute
9. Sorry
10. Madagascar
11. Shacklers Revenge
12. Chinese Democracy
13. TWAT
14. Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: RickDunsford on November 20, 2008, 03:21:30 PM
1. This I love
2. There Was A Time
3. Prostitute
4. Street of Dreams
5. Sorry
6. Catcher In the Rye
7. Madagascar
8. Better
9. If The World
10. Riad and the bedouins
11. Chinese Democracy
12. IRS
13. Shacklers Revenge
14. Scraped



Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: big guns on November 20, 2008, 03:26:58 PM
1-Catcher In The Rye
2-Street of Dreams
3-Better
4-Prostitute
5-Shackler's Revenge
6-There Was A Time
7-Madagascar
8-If The World
9-Scraped
10-Chinese Democracy
11-Sorry
12-I.R.S.
13-Riad & The Bedouins
14-This I Love


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: RebelRose89 on November 20, 2008, 03:42:34 PM
1) Better
2) There Was A Time
3)  This I Love
4) Sorry
5) If The World
6) Chinese Democracy
7) Prostitute
8 ) Catcher In The Rye
9) Street of Dreams
10) Riad N' The Bedouins
11) Madagascar
12) Scraped
13) I.R.S.
14) Shackler's Revenge

  :o Wow - I never thought it'd be that difficult! Seriously took some heavy thought right there to break them down like that.
 All of that time just to get this order & it's likely to change within the hour! - What a great testament to these songs!


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Sober_times on November 20, 2008, 04:08:25 PM
1. Sorry
2. Street of Dreams
3. Better
4. Shackler's Revenge
5. Catcher In The Rye
6. Chinese Democracy
7. If The World
8. Madagascar
9. Rhiad N' The Bedouins
10. IRS
11. There Was A Time
12. This I Love
13. Protitute
14. Scraped

 : ok: :smoking:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Josh on November 20, 2008, 04:11:40 PM
1.  There Was A Time
2.  Sorry
3.  Street of Dreams
4.  Better
5.  Madagascar
6.  IRS
7.  This I Love
8.  Catcher In The Rye
9.  Prostitute
10. Chinese Democracy
11. Scraped
12. Shackler's Revenge
13. If The World
14. Riad N' The Bedouins


I swear this is ridiculous, 'cause #14 is still better than every other song I've heard in the last 5+ years with the exception of some of Metallica's newest.  Just looked back at my list and am like, "'Catcher' is 8th?  Jesus."  What an album.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: wadey on November 20, 2008, 04:37:26 PM
1-  street of dreams
2-  sorry
3-  chinese democracy
4-  better
5-  twat
6-  catcher
7-  shacklers
8-  scraped
9-  prostitute
10- madagascar
11- this i love
12- irs
13- if the world
14- rhiad

very tough call......i hate to put any of em near the bottom. the list will probably keep changing as often as i change my undies though :lmao:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: King Axl on November 20, 2008, 04:57:57 PM
This may change as I listen to the CD more, but right now...

1)Prostitute
2)Street Of Dreams
3)There Was A Time
4)Scraped
5)Riad N' The Bedouins
6)This I Love
7)Madagascar
8)Better
9)Sorry
10)I.R.S.
11)Chinese Democracy
12)Catcher In The Rye
13)If The World
14)Shackler's Revenge


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: acompleteunknown on November 21, 2008, 12:54:54 AM
1.  There Was a Time
2.  Better
3.  Riad and the Bedouins
4.  Chinese Democracy
5.  Prostitute
6.  Shackler's Revenge
7.  Madagascar
8.  Catcher in the Rye
9.  Scraped
10.  I.R.S.
11.  Sorry
12.  Street of Dreams
13.  This I Love
14.  If The World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Alfie Bones on November 21, 2008, 12:59:03 AM
1. Madagascar
2. Shackler's Revenge
3. Chinese Democracy
4. Sorry
5. Riad N' the Bedouins
6. This I Love
7. Better
8. Street of Dreams
9. There Was a Time
10. Prostitute
11. Catcher in the Rye
12. I.R.S.
13. If The World
14. Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: reed2009 on November 21, 2008, 01:06:21 AM
1. PROSTITUTE - been playing this song nonstop since i heard it in june
2. THIS I LOVE - took me one time and fell in love
3. BETTER - final version amazing
4. SORRY - pink floyd turned guns
5. CATCHER - the guitars in final are awesome
6. STREET OF DREAMS - been around for years
7. MADAGASCAR - also been around for years
8. SCRAPED - "dont you try to stop us now"
9. CHINESE - great rocker
10. THERE WAS A TIME - this song wore me out sort of, but still awesome
11. IRS - solid
12. SHACKLERS - this sounds like axl turned to modern day disturbed
13. IF THE WORLD - least favorite ballad, but still love it
14. RIAD - this song never grew on me personally


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Methanol on November 21, 2008, 01:09:07 AM
Chinese Democracy
Prostitute
Street Of Dreams
Riad N' The Bedouins
Sorry
Catcher In The Rye
There Was A Time
I.R.S
Better
Madagascar
Shackler's Revenge
Scraped
This I love
If The World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: riotact_vancity on November 21, 2008, 01:10:23 AM
in terms of what i like, as opposed to what i think is best

If the World
This I Love
Sorry
TWAT
Maddy
IRS
Better
Riad
Street f Dreams
Prostitute
Shacklers
Catcher
Scraped







Chinese Democracy...tho the very end of the track is cool


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on November 21, 2008, 01:12:37 AM
Oh man, I've posted this before elsewhere, I'm afraid it'll change with each listen, but

1. There Was A Time
2. Sorry
3. Better
4. Street of Dreams
5. Prostitute
6. This I Love
7. Scraped
8. IRS
9. If The World
10. Riad
11. Shackler's
12. Catcher
13. CD
14. Madagascar


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Wheres Izzy on November 21, 2008, 01:13:40 AM
1. There Was A Time
2. Catcher In The Rye
3. Street Of Dreams
4. This I Love
5. Better
6. IRS
7. Chinese Democracy
8. If The World
9. Scraped
10. Sorry
11. Riad N' The Bedouins
12. Prostitute
13. Shackler's Revenge
14. Madagascar


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Continental Drift on November 21, 2008, 01:16:50 AM
1. This I Love
2. Prostitute
3. Catcher In The Rye
4. Riad N' The Bedoins
5. Better
6. Street of Dreams
7. Sorry
8. If The World
9. Madagascar
10. Scraped
11. There Was A Time
12. Chinese Democracy
13. IRS
14. Shacker's Revenge

I know this is a GREAT album when:

A. My order could completely change by next week; and
B. I fucking love "Shackler's Revenge" and it's #14. :beer: :peace:

Finally- I'm blown away by Robin Finck on this album- his work on "This I Love", "Better", "Catcher In The Rye", "Street of Dreams", etc. just floors me... Buckethead and Bumblefoot take many of these songs to ridiculous levels of virtuosity- but Robin's style in combination with Axl's heartfelt vocals make for a particularly beautiful combination IMHO. Long live Axl N' rObIn!! Get his ass back over here! :peace:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: D on November 21, 2008, 01:35:47 AM
1.This I Love
2.If The World
3.Prostitute
4.Street of Dreams
5.Shackler's Revenge
6.Madagascar
7.Better
8.Catcher in the Rye
9.There Was A Time
10.Chinese Democracy
11. IRS
12. Sorry
13. Scraped
14.Rhiad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Bodhi on November 21, 2008, 02:33:08 AM
1.This I Love
2.Street of Dreams
3.Better
4.Shacklers Revenge
5.Catcher in the Rye
6.Madagascar
7.Riad and the Bedouins
8.Prostitute
9.Sorry
10.Chinese Democracy
11.There was a time
12. I.R.S
13.If the World
14.Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: fangbutt on November 21, 2008, 03:18:39 AM
1 Street Of Dreams
2 Madagascar
3 There Was A Time
4 If The World
5 Sorry
6 IRS
7 Catcher In The Rye
8 Prostitute
9 Riad and the Bedouins
10 This I Love
11 Scraped
12 Better
13 Shackler's Revenge
14 Chinese Democracy


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: axlroselegend on November 21, 2008, 04:24:21 AM
Sorry
This I love
street of dreams
Better
Prostitute
Catcher
There was a time
Madagascar
Rhiad
Chinese democracy
Shacklers Revenge
If the world
Irs
Scrapped

But its hard to grade as i like each for different aspects




Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 21, 2008, 04:31:11 AM
1.This I Love
2.Street of Dreams
3.Better
4.Chinese Democracy
5.Shacklers Revenge
6.Catcher in the Rye
7.There was a time
8.Madagascar
9.Riad and the Bedouins
10.Prostitute
11.Sorry
12.Scraped
13. I.R.S
14.If the World

Any math wizards know how many possible combinations there are? 



Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: badapple81 on November 21, 2008, 05:40:50 AM
1. Better
2. This I Love
3. Madagascar
4. Catcher In The Rye
5. Riad N' The Bedouins
6. Scraped
7. Chinese Democracy
8. I.R.S.
9. Street Of Dreams
10. Shackler's Revenge
11. There Was A Time
12. Prostitute
13. Sorry
14. If The World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: mikestone on November 21, 2008, 06:03:47 AM
1.sorry
2.better
3.shacklers
4.cd
5.catcher
6.twat
7.madagascar
8.prostitute
9.street of dreams
10.this i love
11.if the world
12.scraped
13.rhaid
14.irs (FILLER) = SHOULD HAVE BEEN "OH MY GOD" OR "SILKWORMS"


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: kuetastic on November 21, 2008, 06:16:25 AM
On the final mix and master things have changed a little.

1. This I Love 9/10
2. Sorry 9/10
3. Street Of Dreams 9/10
4. Madagascar 8/10
5. There Was A Time 8/10
6.Catcher In The Rye 8/10
7. If The World 7/10
8. Better 7/10
9.Prostitute 6.5/10
10. Riad And The Bedouins 6.5/10
11.Scraped 6/10
12. Shackler's Revenge 5/10
13. Chinese Democracy 5/10
14. IRS 4.5/10

Album. 8/10 Brilliant.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: SlashRock on November 21, 2008, 07:38:41 AM
1. Better 10/10
2. Sorry 10/10
3. This I Love 10/10
4. There Was A Time 10/10
5. Prostitute 9/10
6. Street of Dreams 8/10
7. Catcher 8/10
8. Scraped 8/10
9. IRS 8/10
10. If The World 8/10
11. Rhiad 7/10
12. Chinese Democracy 7/10
13. Madagascar 7/10
14. Shacklers 3/10

Album Overall: 9/10


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: AxlReznor on November 21, 2008, 08:26:41 AM
Sorry
This I Love
Prostitute
There Was A Time
Madagascar
Chinese Democracy
Better
Street Of Dreams
I.R.S.
Scraped
If The World
Catcher In The Rye
Riad N' The Bedouins
Shackler's Revenge


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: adman2374 on November 21, 2008, 10:04:53 AM
1.This I Love
2.Street of Dreams
3.Better
4.Chinese Democracy
5.Shacklers Revenge
6.Catcher in the Rye
7.There was a time
8.Madagascar
9.Riad and the Bedouins
10.Prostitute
11.Sorry
12.Scraped
13. I.R.S
14.If the World

Any math wizards know how many possible combinations there are? 



If you want to figure out the combinations, the answer is: 14!, which equals =14x13x12x11x10x9, etc....its a large number....


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: gonella on November 21, 2008, 10:11:45 AM
. This I Love
. Street of Dreams
. Scraped
. Catcher
. Madagascar
. Prostitute
. Sorry
. TWAT
. Better
. IRS
. Chinese
. If the World
. Shackler's
. Riad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: The Illusionist on November 21, 2008, 10:17:20 AM
This list really depends on my mood and which day it is...right now it's:

This I Love
Sorry
Better
Prostitute
If the World
Catcher
Shakler's
TWAT
Street of Dreams
Madagascar
Scraped
Riad
Chinese Democracy
IRS


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Anywaythewindblows on November 21, 2008, 10:18:42 AM
1. Prostitute
2. This I Love
3. There was a Time
4. Street of Dreams
5. Better
6. IRS
7. Madagascar
8. If the World
9. Sorry
10. Catcher in the Rye
11. Riad n' the Bedouins
12. Scraped
13. Shackler's Revenge
14. Chinese Democracy


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Mobenrad on November 21, 2008, 10:19:10 AM
All I can say is that my top 5 are "This I Love", "Catcher in the Rye", "If the World", "Street of Dreams", and "Better".


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: daviebuckethead on November 21, 2008, 10:21:05 AM
would it not be easier to create a poll, and have the votes for each song speak for themselves??


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Mobenrad on November 21, 2008, 10:22:03 AM
would it not be easier to create a poll, and have the votes for each song speak for themselves??

Yes, it certainly would. But that's not the case unfortunately...


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Pine Barrens on November 21, 2008, 10:23:58 AM
Today it looks at little something like this...

1.   Better
2.   Riad and the Beduoins
3.   Scraped
4.   Chinese Democracy
5.   TWAT
6.   Street of Dreams
7.   Prostitute
8.   Madagascar
9.   This I Love
10. If the World
11. Catcher in the Rye
12. Sorry
13. Shackler's Revenge
14. I.R.S.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Six Strings on November 21, 2008, 10:30:39 AM
1.   Better
2.   Riad and the Beduoins
3.   Scraped
4.   Chinese Democracy
5.   TWAT
6.   Street of Dreams
7.   Prostitute
8.   Madagascar
9.   This I Love
10. If the World
11. Catcher in the Rye
12. Sorry
13. Shackler's Revenge
14. I.R.S.


Aam...tough, tough...

1. If The World
2. Chinese Democracy
3. Better
4. Madagascar
5. Sorry
6. Street Of Dreams
7. There Was A Time
8. Shackler's Revenge
9. Catcher In The Rye
10. This I Love
11. Prostitute
12. IRS
13. Riad
14. Scraped


...or something like this.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 21, 2008, 11:15:49 AM
would it not be easier to create a poll, and have the votes for each song speak for themselves??

Yes, it certainly would. But that's not the case unfortunately...
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=54463.0


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: sandman on November 21, 2008, 04:12:22 PM
1.This I Love
2.Street of Dreams
3.Better
4.Chinese Democracy
5.Shacklers Revenge
6.Catcher in the Rye
7.There was a time
8.Madagascar
9.Riad and the Bedouins
10.Prostitute
11.Sorry
12.Scraped
13. I.R.S
14.If the World

Any math wizards know how many possible combinations there are? 



If you want to figure out the combinations, the answer is: 14!, which equals =14x13x12x11x10x9, etc....its a large number....

As a former Actuarial Science major, I can finally put this shit to an interesting use.  :hihi:

the formula above is correct, and there are over 87 billion possible combinations (or lists of favorite songs). to be exact, there are....

87,178,291,200.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: slashsbaconpit on November 21, 2008, 05:54:01 PM
1. Prostitute ? Intensely personal and beautiful. I can't not listen to this. Usually I like the rockers the best, but this is one slow song that is so intense ... instant classic!
2. TWAT ? Another classic in my mind.
3. Riad  ? awesome rocker in the vein of WTTJ.
4. Scraped ? another great rocker
5. Shackler's another great rocker
6. Chinese ? love it, new anthemr
7. This I Love ? Nice!
8. Sorry ? Love it.
9. IRS ? Wonderful defines the new sound of GNR for me.
10. Better ? Great song. Not one note out of place.
11. If the World ? not bad at all.
12. Catcher ? I just don't get it, but it's not bad
13. The Blues ? Feels like it doesn't belong on this album
14. Madagascar ? closest in excess to the UYI albums, but also the most disappointing track to me.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: D on November 21, 2008, 09:49:09 PM
Sorry is catapulting up my chart

first few listens it didnt really HIT ME

Now it knocks me the fuck out.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: jbuch on November 21, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
1.  This I Love
2.  IRS--I seem to like this song much more than most.
3.  Chinese Democracy
4.  Catcher In The Rye
5.  Better
6.  Prostitute
7.  TWAT
8.  Shackler's
9.  Riad
10.  Madagascar
11.  Street of Dreams
12.  Scraped
13.  If The World
14.  Sorry--I'm surprised so many people rank this song highly.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Lord Kayoss on November 21, 2008, 10:14:01 PM
01. Catcher N' The Rye
02. Better
03. Sorry
04. Shackler's Revenge
05. Prostitute
06. Scraped
07. The Blues
08. Chinese Democracy
09. TWAT
10. Riad N' The Bedouins
11. This I Love
12. Madagascar
13. If The World
14. I.R.S.


I notice the majority of these lists have IRS either at the bottom or near it.  I've never been a fan of this song and wish it hadn't made the album.  Just wasted space in my view.  A new version of Oh My God would've been stellar.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: lennonisgod on November 22, 2008, 12:20:08 AM
This list will probably change numerous times over the next few days, weeks, months and years. A lot of the songs I like pretty much equally with those above or below it, but I did my best.

1. Better
2. This I Love
3. Shackler's...
4. TWAT
5. Prostitute
6. Catcher
7. Sorry
8. Scraped
9. If the World
10. IRS
11. CD
12. Madagascar
13. Street of Dreams
14. Riad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: ThatGuy on November 22, 2008, 11:48:50 AM
 1.  Prostitute
 2.  There Was A Time
 3.  Catcher In The Rye
 4.  I.R.S.
 5.  Riad N The Bedouins
 6.  If The World
 7.  Madagascar
 8.  Better
 9.  Street Of Dreams
10. Shackler's Revenge
11. Chinese Democracy
12. Sorry
13. This I love
14. Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: MrMojoRa on November 22, 2008, 12:03:35 PM
I just can't decide on 1 through 12.

13 & 14 are a toss up between Street of Dreams and Madagascar.

Shackler's Revenge probably sits at 12 but I do like the song.

Scraped, This I Love, If the World, Prostitute, Sorry, & Catcher in the Rye probably make up my Top 6, but I have no idea what order.

I may never be able to do a list.  I still couldn't put my top 6 songs from AFD in order from 1 thru 6 out SCOM, WTTJ, Brownstone, ISE, Paradise, & Rocket.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: The Dog on November 22, 2008, 12:18:43 PM
I still can't believe i'm listening to a NEW gnr album.  fucking incredible. just awesome, awesome, awesome.   not ready to rank them yet, but TWAT sounds beyond great.

:beer:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Wheres Izzy on November 23, 2008, 01:01:19 AM
I originally had "Shackler's" at 13 but I find myself listining to it more and more and loving it


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: nateinthehon on November 23, 2008, 01:57:45 AM
Best
1.TWAT
2.Better
3.CD
4.Sorry
5.Maddy
6.If The World
7.Scraped
8.This I Love ^
9. Prostitute
10.SOD
11.IRS
12.CITR
13.Riad
14.Shacklers


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: thesloth on November 23, 2008, 03:19:14 AM
Part depends on my mood but for now it goes like this

1.  If the Wold
2. Riad N the Bedouins
3.  Shackler's Revenge
4. Chinese Democracy
5. Street of Dreams
6. Scraped
7. This I love
8. There was a time
9. IRS
10 Better
11 Sorry
12. Catcher in the Rye
13. Prostitute
14 Madagascar


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: gilee7 on November 23, 2008, 06:19:38 PM
1. TWAT
2. Madagascar
3. Better
4. Sorry
5. This I Love
6. Street of Dreams
7. CITR
8. Prostitute
9. Scraped
10. Chinese Democracy
11. Shackler's Revenge
12. If the World
13. I.R.S.
14. Riad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Axlative on November 23, 2008, 06:48:55 PM
1. Better
2. Sorry
3. Catcher
4. TWAT
5. Maddy
6. If the World
7. Prostitute
8. Street
9. CD
10. Riad
11. IRS
12. Scraped
13. Shackler's
14. This I Love


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: gnrfanxxx on November 23, 2008, 07:37:00 PM
1. Madagascar
2. Shacklers
3. Chinese Democracy
4. Better
5. Rye
6. TWAT
7. Scraped
8. I.R.S.
9. If the World
10. Street of Dreams
11. Sorry
12. Prostitute
13. This I love

But i like them all, really good album. : ok:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: bwhalen on November 23, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
I can't believe how much I like all the songs the whole cd is amazing. Not appetite but way better then the illusions.

My list changes daily!!!


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: ATmagnum on November 23, 2008, 08:34:53 PM
1.  Street of Dreams
2.  Better
3.  There Was A Time
4.  This I Love
5.  Shackler's Revenge
6.  Madagascar
7.  I.R.S.
8.  Sorry
9.  Chinese Democracy
10.  Catcher In The Rye
11.  Prostitute
12.  Riad N' The Bedouins
13.  If The World
14.  Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Nostradamus on November 23, 2008, 08:46:09 PM
Damn, this is hard to do when you actually sit down and do it.  It's not hard to list the top, but some of the songs that make the bottom are really good.

-TWAT
-This I Love
-Better
-Sorry
-Madagascar
-Street of Dreams
-CIR
-Scraped
-Prostitute
-CD
-Shacklers
-IRS
-If the World
-Riad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on November 23, 2008, 08:50:47 PM
1. This I Love
2. Sorry
3. Scraped
4. If The World
5. Better
6. Chinese Democracy
7. Shacklers Revenge
8. There Was A Time
9. Street Of Dreams
10. Madagascar
11. Prostitute
12. Riad N' The Bedoins
13. Catcher In The Rye
14. I.R.S


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: estebanf on November 23, 2008, 09:19:36 PM
I want to post in every single thread in this forum. I want to make a 200 line review, extremely detailed, song per song. I want to shoot a picture of me and the disc and I want to rank them from #1 to #14 like you all guys are doing.

But I have to wait until wednesday (if Holy Spirit helps me) to have the album in my hands. Fuckin' third world.

I haven't heard any of the final tracks. I feel like a bag of shit: i'm extremely nervous, anxious and sad.

But the wait will be worth  :beer:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: SpareHead3 on November 23, 2008, 09:36:12 PM
1. Prostitute
2 (tie). This I Love
2 (tie). Street of Dreams

13. Sorry
14. Catcher in the Rye (due to the vocals being mixed so far back...)

All others are 'tied' for 4


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: loosecannon3 on November 23, 2008, 10:15:06 PM
1. Better
2. This I Love
3. Prostitute
4. Catcher in the Rye
5. If the World
6. Street of Dreams
7. Madagascar
8. Sorry
9. TWAT
10. Shackler's
11. IRS
12. Riad
13. Chinese Democracy
14. Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: icpillusions on November 23, 2008, 10:33:15 PM
1. TWAT
2. This I Love
3. Sorry
4. Prostitute
5. Better
6. Street of Dreams
7. Madagascar
8. Chinese Democracy
9. Catcher in the Rye
10. IRS
11. Scraped
12. If the World
13. Riad
14. Shackler's


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: benchiefjr on November 23, 2008, 10:39:21 PM
Catcher in the Rye
This I Love
Street of Dreams
Better
Sorry
Prostitute
There Was A Time
Madagascar
Riad N' the Bedouins
Scraped
I.R.S.
If the World
Chinese Democracy
Shackler's Revenge





Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: kaasupoltin on November 24, 2008, 04:32:59 AM
1. There Was A Time - Amazing track, love those guitars.
2. Better - This has been one of my favourites since I first heard it in 2006.
3. Sorry - Hypnotic, catchy and melodic. Beautiful!
4. Scraped - The intro is weird, but I love the feeling on this one. And the melody is great.
5. Street Of Dreams - I thought it would be better though, but it's still great!
6. Madagascar - Loved it when I first heard it, but I've been listening to it so much during these years that it wasn't "a new song" anymore.
7. This I Love - Pure Axl, but the lyrics are a little too naive here and there. Amazing track anyways!
8. Chinese Democracy - The best opener on the album :D Basic rocker with a great attitude.
9. Riad N' The Bedouins - Better than I expected based on the 2001 version.
10. I.R.S - I think this song will become one of my facourites after a little..
11. Prostitute - Now this has been already growing on me, and I'm starting to really like it.
12. Catcher in the Rye - This song too, needs some time. I think it would be a great live-track.
13. Shackler's Revenge - I don't know why, but I don't get anything from this track. Maybe after a while I will.
14. If The World - The only song I don't like that much.. I like the solo though.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: variant on November 24, 2008, 06:56:36 AM
TWAT
Better
Street of Dreams
This I Love
Madagascar
IRS
Riad
Catcher in the Rye
Prostitute
Chinese Democracy
Shackler's
Scraped
Sorry
If the World

It's great that there is a lot of variety in these lists! I'm sure I won't be popular for putting Sorry and If The World at the bottom!


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: John Galt on November 24, 2008, 08:08:31 AM
Hmmm

Sorry
Prostitute
Better
This I Love
TWAT
Chinese Democracy
Street of Dreams
Madagascar
Catcher in the Rye
Riad n the Bedouins
Shacklers Revenge
IRS
Scraped
If the World



Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: sandman on November 24, 2008, 10:44:01 AM
1. TWAT
2. Sorry
3. Scraped
4. Chinese Democracy
5. IRS
6. This I Love
7. Shackler's Revenge
8. Better
9. Catcher
10. Street of Dreams
11. Prostitute
12. If The World
13. Madagascar
14. Riad

songs i ranked 1-3 are perfect 10's for me (and almost interchangeable on my list).

songs 4-12 are all about an 8 or 9 for me (and are definitely interchangeable - prostitute could easily be ranked up around 5 or 6 for me if you ask me a week from now  :hihi:).   

the last two songs i like, but i kinda gotta be in the mood for them.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: kaasupoltin on November 24, 2008, 10:46:34 AM
It's great that there is a lot of variety in these lists!

That is so true, I love how there are so many different opinions just within the fan base!


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: russtcb on November 24, 2008, 11:10:11 AM
Gun to my head, I rank 'em like this:

01 Better
02 Street Of Dreams
03 There Was A Time
04 If The World
05 This I Love
06 IRS
07 Madagascar
08 Sorry
09 Scraped
10 Chinese Democracy
11 Riad N' The Bedouins
12 Prostitute
13 Catcher In The Rye
14 Shackler's Revenge


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: LIGuns on November 24, 2008, 12:50:37 PM
1-Sorry
2-CD
3-Better
4-This I Love
5-Scraped
6-TWAT
7-Rhiad
8-If the World
9-Madagascar
10-Street of Dreams (the Blues)
11-Shacklers Revenge
12-Cathcer in the Rye
13-IRS
14-Prostitute
after a steady day of listening This I Love, Scraped, If the World and Shacklers Revenge really grew on me..As did IRS which has not been a fav. since the demps and live shows..


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: minto on November 24, 2008, 01:36:09 PM
TWAT
Better
IRS
Street od Dreams
Madagascar
Catcher in the Rye
Shacklers Revenge
Chinese Democracy
This I Love
Sorry
Prostitute
Scraped
If the World
Rhiad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: tom927 on November 24, 2008, 02:04:49 PM
Too soon to make those kinds of Decisions.  A month from now, everyone's list will be re arranged...but if I have to....

1.This I Love
2.Better
3.Sorry
4.If the World
5.Catcher in the Rye...glad the song made it on the album.
6.Prostitute
7.Chinese Democracy
8.Street of Dreams
9.There was a Time
10.Scraped
11.Shackler's Revenge
12.IRS
13.Rhiad
14. Madagascar

Ask us again in a MOnth


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Mal Brossard on November 24, 2008, 02:41:44 PM
Prostitute
There Was A Time
Street of Dreams
IRS
Sorry
If The World
Better
This I Love
Scraped
Chinese Democracy
Madagascar
Shackler's Revenge
Catcher In the Rye
Riad N' The Bedouins


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: zosobob6 on November 24, 2008, 02:49:34 PM
god this is so hard, cause all the songs are great.  ill give it a shot though,

1. Catcher In The Rye
2. Better
3. TWAT
4. Chinese Democracy
5. Scraped
6. Madagascar
7. IRS
8. Prostitute
9. Sorry
10. This I Love
11. Street Of Dreams
12. Riad
13. Shacklers
14. If The World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: bananasforaxl on November 24, 2008, 02:58:03 PM
This I Love
If the World
Better
Street of Dreams
There Was a Time
Sorry
Prostitute
Shacklers
Catcher
CD
Madagascar
Scraped
IRS
Riad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: DarrenLeves on November 24, 2008, 03:35:38 PM
this is hard!

This I Love
Sorry
Prostitute
Madagascar
Catcher In The Rye
There Was A Time
Scraped
Better
If The World
IRS
Riad
Street Of Dreams
Chinese Democracy
Shacklers Revenge


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: dragan0T3 on November 24, 2008, 03:50:45 PM
My first post in God knows how long...  but you gotta start somewhere right!

1. Prostitute [Amazing! So many emotional changes and I love the optimistic feel of the end instrumental section.]
2. There Was a Time [Equally amazing!  Love all the solos - kinda bring the song to another dimension similar to Slash's solos in Estranged]
3. Better [the hit!]
4. Sorry [mean but well deserved after all these years]
5. This I Love [Heartbreak Inc. - honestly, it takes a lot of courage to release this.  Finck's solo is good (not amazing) it's just that it was mixed way too loud imo - it feels separate from the rest of the instruments.]
6. Shackler's Revenge [love the disco beat drumming during the prechorus and the solo's crazy - I hope some DJs remix it and make a techno anthem]
7. Madagascar [I prefer Axl's vocals from the live shows - it sounds a little too raspy to me.]
8. Scraped [I don't think Axl's ever done these types of lyrics before; love the intro; it's the modern Out ta Get Me]
9. Street of Dreams [I really miss those synth flute things overlayed that they used in 2001 and 2002 shows - they started during "I don't know just what I should do...", but a great song nonetheless]
10. Chinese Democracy [Turned out way better than the earlier incarnations - thanks Bumblefoot!]
11. Riad n' the Bedouins [fusion of styles - really cool]
12. I.R.S. [rocks but a little repetitive]
13. If the World [very cool for GN'R - I just wish Buckethead's acoustic solos were louder in the mix - I'm glad I still have the leak]
14. Catcher in the Rye [It's okay but I really have to be in the mood to listen to it - I'll probably be skipping it sometimes...  It's a totally personal thing since I know a lot of people like this song a lot - just not my thing.  The same thing happened with Breakdown for me - I know it's good but I just don't feel like listening to it often.]

The above is subject to change!

P.S.  I was really really hoping that they would re-record Oh My God with the new guys (I really didn't like the production of the End of Days soundtrack version).  It's a great song imo and would probably rank somewhere in the middle.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: plasmabeam on November 24, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
Kinda hard to be fair, considering I've been listening to a few of these songs for 3+ years, but here's my current ranking.

1. There Was A Time
2. Riad N' The Bedouins
3. Prostitute
4. Shackler's Revenge
5. Chinese Democracy
6. Sorry
7. Street of Dreams
8. Scraped
9. This I Love
10. IRS
11. Catcher In The Rye
12. Madagascar
13. Better
14. If The World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: damnthehaters on November 24, 2008, 08:42:09 PM
1) Sorry
2) This I Love
3) Better
4) Shacklers Revenge

5) If The World
6) Prostitute
7) Scraped
8) There Was A Time
9) Chinese Democracy
10) I.R.S
11) Madagascar
12) Catcher In The Rye
13) Street of Dreams
14) Rhiad N' The Bedouins


First bold..songs I really like

Second bold...songs I don't like much at all


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: brad1217 on November 24, 2008, 10:03:31 PM
The only thing I can say for sure is that Better is my absolute favorite song on this album, but I find a different song popping into my head without even thinking about it so it's really impossible for me to begin to rank these songs.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Jim Bob on November 24, 2008, 10:22:18 PM
Prostitute
Shacklers' Revenge
This I Love
Sorry
If The World
Better
Catcher In The Rye
Street Of Dreams
Chinese Democracy
Riad N' The Bediouns
There Was A Time
Madagascar
Scraped
I.R.S.



Fuck that was hard, because I LOVE IRS (although its one of those songs that sounds better live maybe thats why i put it last)   No filler whatsoever.   Amazing.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: crayallica on November 24, 2008, 10:22:31 PM
1. TWAT
2. Better
3. Street of Dreams
4. Sorry
5. Chinese Democracy
6. Scraped
7. Catcher
8. IRS
9. This I Love
10. If The World
11. Prostitute
12. Madagascar
13. Shackler's
14. Riad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: variant on November 25, 2008, 04:06:27 AM
I don't get why IRS is not higher on more lists - I think its an amazing song. I really need to learn the words an holler along  8)


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: ben9785 on November 25, 2008, 04:33:38 AM
Honestly, I enjoy something out of every song.. its just a case that I'm more interested to listen to particular songs for different reasons, whether the lyrics or the mood or the energy of the song - so this is very difficult and I've already edited this list about 5 times before I even clicked the Post button the first time..

1. Scraped (Came out of nowhere and gets me with every listen, the guitar riffs are killer)
2. This I Love (Another one that came out of nowhere and just.. woah)
3. Shackler's Revenge (I love it)
4. If The World (Cool acoustic lead, awesome groove, great vocals)
5. There Was A Time (Epic guitar solos)
6. Madagascar (Simple melody but an epic)
7. Sorry (I love the mood, and Buckethead's guitar is great here)
8. Riad N' The Bedouins (Long time favorite)
9. Catcher in The Rye (Nice melody and lyrics)
10. Chinese Democracy (The first new GNR song I got to after "Oh My God")
11. Better (Long time favorite. Disappointed that I had to rank it so low but goes to show there was better to come)
12. Prostitute (Another one I really enjoyed and disappointed but I'm more likely to repeat "This I Love" over this)
13. IRS (Great song but I don't go back to it much)
14. Street of Dreams (Another great song but I don't go back to it much)

Who knows this might change next week. But I'm going to just submit this and move on otherwise I'll be going over this list for another 10 minutes..




Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Wernie on November 25, 2008, 05:59:54 AM
Damn, this is hard...

1. This I Love (I just can't stop listen to it, those emotions are just...wow.)
2. Catcher In The Rye
3. Prostitute
4. Sorry
5. TWAT
6. Scraped
7. Madagascar
8. Better
9. Street Of Dreams
10. Shackler's Revenge
11. IRS
12. If The World
13. Chinese Democracy
14. Riad N' The Bedouins


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: badobsession_r21 on November 25, 2008, 06:44:31 AM
1.TWAT
2.Madagascar
3.Prostitute
4.Street of Dreams
5.Sorry
6.IRS
7.Better
8.Riad
9.CD
10.Scraped
11.Catcher in the rye
12.Shackler's revenge
13.This i love
14.If the world


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: The Prez on November 25, 2008, 07:06:27 AM
1. Sorry
2. This I Love
3. Better
4. If The World
5. Chinese Democracy
6. Madagascar
7. Shacklers' Revenge
8. Street Of Dreams
9. There Was A Time
10. Prostitute
11. Scraped
12. Catcher In The Rye
13. Riad N' The Bediouns
14. IRS


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: mesaboogie on November 25, 2008, 07:16:14 AM
1. There Was A Time
2. Prostitute
3. Scraped
4. Shackler's Revenge
5. Better
6. Sorry
7. Street of Dreams
8. Riad N' The Bedouins
9. This I Love
10. Madagascar
11. Catcher In The Rye (liked the Brain May version better & crazy piano tinkling before breakdown/outro outa place)
12. Chinese Democracy
13. IRS
14. If The World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: faldor on November 25, 2008, 09:43:34 AM
1. There Was A Time
2. I.R.S.
3. Scraped
4. Sorry
5. If The World
6. Street Of Dreams
7. Chinese Democracy
8. Shackler's Revenge
9. Catcher In The Rye
10. Better
11. Prostitute
12. This I Love
13. Madagascar
14. Riad N' The Bedouins


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: lostdream on November 25, 2008, 12:28:42 PM
1) This I love (!!!)
2) Scraped
3) I.R.S.
4) Better
5) Catcher in the Rye
6) Sorry
7) Prostitute
8 ) Street of Dreams
9) If the world
10) There was a time
11) Madagascar
12) Chinese Democracy
13) Riad n? the Bedouins
14) Shackler?s Revenge


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: spyder8739 on November 25, 2008, 12:39:18 PM
There Was A Time
Street Of Dreams
Better
Chinese Democracy
Catcher In The Rye
Shacklers Revenge
If The World
Madagascar
Scraped
Prostitute
IRS
Riad
This I Love
Sorry


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Alfie Bones on November 26, 2008, 01:40:17 AM
After reading most of these, I have to say Riad seems to be by a wide margin the least liked overall. I guess it's because the lyrics don't seem to go anywhere. *shrug*

It'd be higher on my list though.  :yes:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: mdttkk on November 26, 2008, 02:59:42 AM
1. TWAT
2. This I Love
3. Prostitute
4. Catcher
5. Riad
6. Sorry
7. If the World
8. Shackler's
9. Street of Dreams
10. Chinese Democracy
11. IRS
12. Better
13. Madagascar
14. Scraped

Hard to make this list!  I think Madagascar, Better and Chinese Democracy are lower for me because I already heard them.  and IRS is awesome but I think the other ones are better! 


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Grizzly on November 26, 2008, 03:13:25 AM
01 - Better
02 - Chinese Democracy
03 - Street of Dreams
04 - Madagascar
05 - Shackler's Revenge

06 - If The World, Catcher in the Rye, Prostitute, There Was a Time

10 - Riad, Scraped, IRS

13 - Sorry, This I Love


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: aribeth69 on November 27, 2008, 10:42:49 PM
1. Madagascar
2. This i love
3. Chinese democracy
4. street of dreams
5. better
6.Sorry
7.Shackler's Revenge
8.Catcher in the Rye
9.If The World
10.There Was a Time
11.Riad
12.Scraped
13.IRS
14.Prostitute


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: GNR4L on November 27, 2008, 10:51:05 PM
After 5 listens

1.Better
2.Riad N' The Bedouins
3. If The World
4. IRS
5. Shacklers Revenge
6. Street of Dreams
7. TWAT
8. Catcher In The Rye
9. Sorry
10. Madagascar
11. This I Love
12. Prostitute
13. Chinese Democracy
14. Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on November 27, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
1. Sorry
2. This i Love
3. Chinese Democracy
4. TWAT
5. Riad N' The Bedouins
6. Catcher in the Rye
7. Better
8. IRS
9. Streat of Dreams
10. Shacklers Revenge
11. Madagascar
12. If the World
13. scraped
14. prostitute


if i had the choice i'd have the last three songs shelfed or made better or replaced with new songs all together

:peace:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Drew on November 28, 2008, 07:50:24 AM
1. Better
2. Chinese Democracy
3. Shackler's Revenge
4. Sorry
5. Street Of Dreams
6. This I Love
7. There Was A Time
8. Scraped
9. Prostitute
10. Madagascar
11. If The World
12. I.R.S.
13. Catcher In The Rye
14. Riad N The Bedouins


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Mojo Vampire on November 28, 2008, 11:57:45 AM
Better
Prostitute
The Blues (Street of Dreams)
There Was A Time
Chinese Democracy
IRS
Catcher In the Rye
Madagascar
Riad & the Beduoins
Shackler's Revenge
This I Love
Scraped
If the World
Sorry


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Electric Sintar on November 30, 2008, 12:59:35 PM
After the first week...

1. Sorry
2. Better
3. TWAT
4. Shacklers Revenge
5. Scraped
6. Madagascar
7. Street of Dreams
8. Catcher in the Rye
9. This I Love
10. Chinese Democracy
11. I.R.S
12. If the World
13. Prostitute
14. Riad N' the Bedouins


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: western_chaos on November 30, 2008, 01:07:21 PM
After the first week as well:

1. Better
2. This I Love
3. If The World
4. Sorry
5. Chinese Democracy
6. Riad N' Bedouins
7. Street of Dreams
8. Catcher In The Rye
9. TWAT
10. Madagascar
11. Shacklers Revenge
12. Scraped
13. Prostitute
14. IRS

---

This list was hard cause IRS is really the only song I don't care for.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Wooody on November 30, 2008, 01:49:28 PM
all the lists are so different! it`s mind-blowing.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Drew on November 30, 2008, 01:53:54 PM
After the first week as well:

I guess I should have added this as well. Cause in the coming weeks months, and years, I could begin liking different songs more or less. But for now, my list still stands.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: western_chaos on November 30, 2008, 03:06:10 PM
all the lists are so different! it`s mind-blowing.

Yeah, we all have different opinions of the music. The styles on cd are numerous and we're well thought out...

A lot of people really like I.R.S. for example, but I've never been much of a fan of it.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Leonan on November 30, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
1. Scraped
2. This I Love
3. Better
4. Shacklers Revenge
5. IRS
6. Chinese Democracy
7. Prostitute
8. Sorry
9. TWAT
10. If The World
11. Riad N' Bedouins
12. Catcher In The Rye
13. Street of Dreams
14. Madagascar


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: nateinthehon on November 30, 2008, 04:57:53 PM
Best
1.TWAT
2.Better
3.CD
4.Sorry
5.Maddy
6.If The World
7.Scraped
8.This I Love ^
9. Prostitute
10.SOD
11.IRS
12.CITR
13.Riad
14.Shacklers

Now my list would go like this(after about 400 listens)

1. TWAT
2. Sorry
3. Better
4. I.R.S(the final mix really jams, should be a strong single cuz its catchy)
5. Chinese Democracy
6. Madagascar
7. If The World

8. This I Love
9. Scraped
10. Street Of Dreams
11. Prostitue
12. Riad N' The Beduins

13. Catcher
14. Shacklers

The first 7 I would consider 4.5-5 star songs(outta 5)
8-12 I would say are 3-3.5 star songs(outta 5)
13-14 I just really do not like 2 star songs


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: crow316 on November 30, 2008, 05:07:16 PM
1. Sorry
2. Everything else


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: StoneTempleRoses on November 30, 2008, 05:13:46 PM
This I Love
Catcher in the Rye
The Blues
Better
Scraped
Sorry
Maddy
If the world
TWAT
Chinese Democracy
Shacklers Revenge
IRS
Riad N' the Bedouins
Prostitute


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: hooliganscomics on November 30, 2008, 05:17:18 PM
Catcher In The Rye
Better
Prostitute (man has this song grown on me)
Chinese Democracy
Shacklers Revenge
Sorry (solo is amazing)
Scraped
There Was A Time
Street Of Dreams
Madagascar
This I love
I.R.S
Riad N' The Bedouins
If The World

Ok after week one and all day rotation here is my new rankings.

Prostitute - 1st song I put on wHen I wake up
Better
Shacklers
CD
CITR
TWAT

Madagascar
Sorry
Street Of Dreams
Scraped
IRS

Riad
This I Love
If The World

Top 6 I love
Middle 5 are really good
Really don't like the last 3 at all. Actually have skipped them often.  


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: crow316 on November 30, 2008, 05:19:16 PM
Quote
Actually have skipped them often
That might be the reason you dont like them...


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: hooliganscomics on November 30, 2008, 05:24:06 PM
Quote
Actually have skipped them often
That might be the reason you dont like them...

I've heard them enough times to know I don't like them.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Jimmy? on November 30, 2008, 05:28:33 PM
After 1st week.

1. There Was A Time
2. This I Love
3. Prostitute
4. IRS
5. Scraped
6. Better
7. Madagascar
8. Street Of Dreams
9. Catcher In The Rye
10. Chinese Democracy
11. Shacklers Revenge
12. Riad N' The Bedouins
13. If The World
14. Sorry


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Jecoma on December 01, 2008, 10:55:29 AM
1. Street Of Dreams
2. Prostitute
3. Better
4. This I Love
5. There Was A Time
6. Madagascar
7. Catcher In The Rye
8. Chinese Democracy
9. Shackler's Revenge
10. Sorry
11. Riad N' The Bedouins
12. If The World
13. Scraped
14. IRS

Even the songs I put at the bottom are still great in my opinion. Very hard to make this list when the album is full of fantastic songs.  : ok:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Howard2k on December 01, 2008, 11:21:44 AM
1- There Was a Time
2 - Prostitute
3 - Shackler's Revenge
4 - Better
5 - This I Love
6 - Sorry
7 - If The World
8 - Madagascar
9 - Riad
10 - Street of Dreams
11 - IRS
12 - Catcher In The Rye
13 - Chinese Democracy
14 - Scraped



Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Skeletor on December 01, 2008, 01:55:11 PM
Alright, I think I've now listened to the album enough to have a go:

1. Sorry
2. Catcher in the Rye
3. Prostitute
4. Street of Dreams
5. This I Love
6. There Was a Time
7. Better
8. Madagasgar
9. Chinese Democracy
10. Riad n' the Bedouins
11. If the World
12. Shackler's Revenge
13. I.R.S.
14. Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: duga on December 03, 2008, 10:16:27 AM
The best (in album order):
TWAT
Sorry
Madagascar
This I Love
Prostitute

Stands out:
Catcher in the rye

The rest (in album order):
Chinese Democracy
Schackler's Revenge
Better
Street of Dreams
Scraped
Riad
I.R.S.

The weakest (almost forgot it):
If the world


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: LaneSax on December 03, 2008, 11:26:41 PM
1. Better
2. Prostitute
3. This I Love
4.  Riad N' the Bedouins
5. There Was a Time
6. Shackler's Revenge
7. Street of Dreams
8. Scraped
9. I.R.S.
10. Catcher in the Rye
11. Chinese Democracy
12. If the World
13. Sorry
14. Madagascar


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: TempletonPeck on December 04, 2008, 02:55:48 AM
There Was A Time
This I Love
Better
Catcher In The Rye
Chinese Democracy
I.R.S.
Madagascar
Street Of Dreams
Prostitute
Shackler' Revenge
Rhiad
If The World
Sorry
Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Donner on December 04, 2008, 02:55:08 PM
Better
Rhiad
Street Of Dreams
Prostitute
This I Love
Catcher In The Rye
Sorry
Chinese Democracy
Madagascar
There Was A Time
If The World
I.R.S.
Scraped
Shackler' Revenge


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: GNR4L on December 04, 2008, 03:00:44 PM
After 20 listen's


1. Better
2. Rhiad N The Bedouin's
3. Shacklers Revenge
4. I.R.S
5. Catcher In The Rye
6. If The World
7. Madagascar
8. There Was A Time
9. Prostitute
10. Street Of Dreams
11. This I Love
12. Sorry
13. Chinese Democracy
14. Scraped


Top 3 favorite (final)

1. Better
2. Riad N' The Bedouins
3. There Was A Time


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: otgm on December 04, 2008, 03:49:54 PM
Strong songs:
1. Better
2. Catcher In The Rye
3. There Was A Time
4. Street of Dreams
5. Sorry

So so's:
6. Chinese Democracy
7. I.R.S.
8. Madagascar
9. If The World
10. Shackler's Revenge
11. This I Love

Stinkers:
12. Prostitute
13. Riad N' The Bedouins
14. Scraped




Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Pinball Wizard on December 04, 2008, 03:55:00 PM
Well, here's my rank, but I must wanr you: it might be a different rank tomorrow!  :P

1. If the World
2. Catcher in the Rye
3. There was a Time
4. Sorry
5. This I love
6. Madagascar
7. Better
8. Riad
9. The Bl...Street of Dreams  (:P)
10. Chinese
11. IRS
12. Scraped
13. Shackler's
14. Prostitute


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: bazgnr on December 04, 2008, 04:16:25 PM
1. Better
2. Scraped
3. Shackler's
4. If the World
5. Street of Dreams
6. Catcher
7. Sorry
8. Riad
9. Chinese Democracy
10. IRS
11. There Was a Time
12. Madagascar
13. Prostitute
14. This I Love

The first 9 I can listen to again, and again, and again.  Seriously, I can't stop.   10-12 I can handle one play every now and again.  "Prostitute" usually only when I want to hear the album as it was "meant" to end.  "This I Love" I skip religiously.   Too broadway, too over-the-top for me, and the one song that really stands out as not really fitting in.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: marknroses on December 04, 2008, 04:29:27 PM
My favorite, from best to worst
(1-13 are subject to change):

Excellent  :  ;D
1. Street of Dreams
2. TWAT
3. Madagascar
4. Shacklers Revenge
5. If The World

Great  :D
6. Sorry
6.5 (Oh My God)
7. Rhiad and Beds
8. Catcher in the Rye
9. Chinese Democracy
10. This I love
11. Prostitute
12. IRS
13. Better

Medicore :(
14. Scraped



Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: King Axl on December 04, 2008, 06:51:51 PM
My revised listing, after many listens:

1. This I Love
2. Scraped
3. Sorry
4. Prostitute
5. There Was A Time
6. Riad N' The Bedouins
7. Street Of Dreams
8. Madagascar
9. Better
10. I.R.S.
11. If The World
12. Chinese Democracy
13. Shackler's Revenge
14. Catcher In The Rye


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: demo23nz on December 18, 2008, 04:37:36 PM
The middle of this fluctuates, but the top 4 and bottom 4 stay the same...

1. Better
2. Sorry
3. Chinese Democracy
4. If The World
5. There Was A Time
6. Madagascar
7. Scraped
8. Shackler's
9. Riad
10. IRS
11. Catcher In the Rye
12. This I Love
13. Prostitute
14. Street Of Dreams


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on December 18, 2008, 06:15:17 PM
This I Love
If the World
Shackler's Revenge
Prostitute
I.R.S
Catcher in the Rye
Riad N' the Bedouins
Better
Sorry
Scraped
Chinese Democracy
There Was A Time
Madagascar
Street Of Dreams

I dont know how good I feel about this order. I don't feel right rating these songs because they are all great. Im sure if I were to do this again in a week the order would change.


 :peace:


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Wheres Izzy on December 18, 2008, 06:47:16 PM
Can't stop listening to "Scraped" lately. Definitely climbing up my list.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: brimatner on December 18, 2008, 06:58:26 PM
This I Love
Sorry
Better
Prostitute
Catcher in the Rye
Street of Dreams
I.R.S.
Riad N' the Bedouins
If the World
Scraped
There Was a Time
Chinese Democracy
Madagascar
Shackler's Revenge


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Wardy on December 18, 2008, 07:38:20 PM
1.   Better
2.   Scraped
3.   This I Love
4.   There Was A Time
5.   If The World
6.   Shacklers Revenge
7.   Chinese Democracy
8.   Sorry
9.   Madagascar
10.   IRS
11.   Street Of Dreams
12.   Prostitute
13.   Catcher In The Rye
14.   Riad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Trist805 on December 18, 2008, 10:04:32 PM
There Was A Time
Prostitute
Sorry
This I Love
I.R.S.
Scraped
If The World
Catcher In The Rye
Better
Madagascar
Riad N The Bedouins
Chinese Democracy
Street of Dreams
Shackler's Revenge


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: COG on December 19, 2008, 04:37:37 AM
There was a time
Sorry
Prostitute
Better
Catcher in the rye
Madagascar
this i love
Chinese Democracy
Rhiad n the bedouins
shackler's revenge
if the world
scraped
street of dreams
irs


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Jarrod on December 19, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
From my top pick (favourite) to my bottom pick:

1. Better
2. Catcher In The Rye
3. There Was A Time
4. Street Of Dreams
5. I.R.S
6. Sorry
7. This I Love
8. Riad N' The Bedouins
9. Shackler's Revenge
10. Madagascar
11. Scraped
12. If The World
13. Chinese Democracy
14. Prostitute


And Ill give an extra special mention to This I Love...While its not my favourite song off the album, it is still an amazing peice and is a song thats so emotional that it's power can actually be felt IMHO!!!


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: plasmabeam on December 19, 2008, 04:43:46 PM
Almost a month later...

1. Street of Dreams
2. There Was A Time
3. IRS
4. Prostitute
5. This I Love
6. Scraped
7. Catcher In The Rye
8. Shackler's Revenge
9. Sorry
10. Better
11. Chinese Democracy
12. Riad N' The Bedouins
13. Madagascar
14. If The World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: axl_rose_700 on December 19, 2008, 07:27:41 PM
Prostitute
This I Love
Sorry
Street of Dreams
Scraped
TWAT
Better
Riad
Shacklers Revenge
Chinese Democracy
IRS
Catcher in the Rye
Madagascar
If the World


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: AxlFink on December 19, 2008, 08:32:44 PM
This I Love
Prostitute
Madagascar
Better
Shacklers
cd
The Blues
if the world
Sorry
TWAT
Catcher
irs
Scraped
RIAD



Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: mojoeye on December 20, 2008, 11:31:36 PM
1. Prostitute
2. T.W.A.T. or Madagascar
3. Catcher in the Rye
4. Street of Dreams
5. Better
6. If the World
7. Riad
8. This I Love
9. I.R.S.
10. Sorry
11. Chinese Democracy
12. Shackler's
13. Scraped


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Mighty Mouse on December 21, 2008, 11:06:00 PM
1."Shackler's Revenge"
2."Prostitute"
3."Better"
4."If The World"
5."Chinese Democracy"
6."Scraped"
7."There Was A Time"
8."Madagascar"
9."Sorry"
10."Riad N' The Bedouins"
11."Street Of Dreams"
12."Catcher In The Rye"
13."I.R.S."
14."This I Love"


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: carmiedisco12 on December 22, 2008, 07:11:50 AM
1 Prostitute (only criticism is overly produced vocals otherwise awesome)
2 Better ( only criticism is the middle 'metal' section....just out of place....and really kinda shitty
3 If the world ( production is AWESOME) - production minimal....less is more Axl....a good balance here......very heartfelt....either u get it or u dont
4 IRS (fantastic song...like a great Zep song with GNR attitude.....some lyrics are cheesy and the production is muffled and far below If the world / CD production wise...sounds like a demo quality wise??? and a fe too many keyboards when guitar crunch was required)
5 This I love ( cheesy as hell but I love it still) again -production minimal....less is more Axl....a good balance here......very heartfelt....either u get it or u dont
6 Street of dreams (shoulda been number 1....they slowed it down...went from great pop song...to pretty good rock ballad....massive shame....The first minute or so sucks...Axls vocals are overboard for what was required and his vocals at one point are so obviously altered(where he says the bluueee..ohhh ohhh ohh uuues)...then the body of the song kicks in ( from i wander through my days onwards) and its still very good)
7 Chinese democracy (really a crap song....great opening riff....but after that...meh......The production is awesome and played sooo well, great guitars....takes a 5/10 song and makes it a 8/10 song)
8 Sorry....pretty good but meh
9 Scraped (amazing vocals....still the basis of the song isnt great again but great vocals.....the last minute or so drags it down)
10 Rhiad ( coulda been close to Jungle but 1...whats he on about??....2 The guitars...no dynamics....3...ohh my frustration part sucks....
11 Shacklers ( awesome disco beat...the rest sucks)
12 Catcher ( How to take a good simple songs and destroy it by overproduction....and then have a brilliant soslo and replace it by somehting MASSIVELY inferior......a crime against what should have been in the top 5 on the album
13 Madagascar ( a good song....overly long for what it has to offer....the vocals, my god the vocals......like seeing a fat old guy in a muscle shirt.....Sorry, the vaerage guy on the street can sing better, so wobbly )
14 TWAT ( like a song written by a commitee.....like they meshed 5 good bits of diff songs into one and it doesnt gel....the vocals are weak and hard to listen to....and suprisingly the production is very poor.....plus drags on and on

CD 7.7/10


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: AdZ on December 22, 2008, 07:26:15 AM
You seem very insistent on telling everyone how 'average' the album is.

Go troll somewhere else.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: carmiedisco12 on December 22, 2008, 07:33:48 AM
What are you on about???

Ive said its excellent in nearly every post

Constructive criticism is just that constructive criticism...perhaps i do it too much because it seems noone make any comments other than its awesome/ perfect......trolling my arse.
I have constructive criticisms about nearly every album i own.....im analytical by nature.

The only albums I have NO criticism of are AFD a few albums you prob have never heard of and OK computer...and perhaps a Nick Cave album

You seriously want me to rate it 10/10 if i honestly really enjoy it but rate it 7.75?? as ive sais earlier I rate CD equal to Illusion II....or isnt that high enough??? I will try and offer more positivity but christ when was honest opinion a crime??

If everyone on here just agrees and goes oh my god its awesome i cry every time i play it blah blah wouldnt it become a boring 'forum'????
Ive read this forum for years and rarely post as i enjoy reading opins that DIFFER from mine....i suggest you learn that quality.



Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Uzi76 on December 23, 2008, 11:25:56 AM
1- This I love
2- Better
3- Madagascar
4- Catcher in the Rye
5- Sorry
6- There was a Time
7- Street of Deams
8- If the World
9- IRS
10- Prostitute
11- Shackler's Revenge
12- Chinese Democracy
13- Scraped
14- Rhiad n' Bedoiuns

Numbers 4, 5 and 6 are very close to each other and will change positions as time goes by. Also Shackler is a song that still has to grow on me and I see it going up in the future.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: AdZ on December 23, 2008, 11:55:41 AM
What are you on about???

I'm on about the fact that you don't know what you're talking about:

1 Prostitute (only criticism is overly produced vocals otherwise awesome)

Overly produced? That means what exactly?

4 IRS (fantastic song...like a great Zep song with GNR attitude.....some lyrics are cheesy and the production is muffled and far below If the world / CD production wise...sounds like a demo quality wise??? and a fe too many keyboards when guitar crunch was required)

Muffled how? Maybe you should get some sort of decent listening equipment, everything's clear on this end.

8 Sorry....pretty good but meh

Define. Meh means nothing.

9 Scraped (amazing vocals....still the basis of the song isnt great again but great vocals.....the last minute or so drags it down)

Basis of the song, which part would that be exactly? The killer riff or the great drums or what?
I mean, you really haven't explained anything here.

10 Rhiad ( coulda been close to Jungle but 1...whats he on about??....2 The guitars...no dynamics....3...ohh my frustration part sucks....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

12 Catcher ( How to take a good simple songs and destroy it by overproduction....and then have a brilliant soslo and replace it by somehting MASSIVELY inferior......a crime against what should have been in the top 5 on the album

Overproduction? Again, what do you mean?

13 Madagascar ( a good song....overly long for what it has to offer....the vocals, my god the vocals......like seeing a fat old guy in a muscle shirt.....Sorry, the vaerage guy on the street can sing better, so wobbly )

You're an average guy on the street; sing better.

14 TWAT ( like a song written by a commitee.....like they meshed 5 good bits of diff songs into one and it doesnt gel....the vocals are weak and hard to listen to....and suprisingly the production is very poor.....plus drags on and on

Do you even know what production is?


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Voodoochild on December 23, 2008, 12:04:14 PM
^ Also, Riad's guitars are one of the most dynamic things on this album, with all sort of layers, progressions, tempo and tone. That was really a dumb statement.


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Stewie Griffin on December 23, 2008, 12:20:39 PM
1. Better
2. Sorry
3. Riad N' The Bedouins
4. Prostitute
5. TWAT
6. Scraped
7. Shackler's Revenge
8. Chinese Democracy
9. Madagascar
10. IRS
11. Street Of Dreams
12. If The World
13. Catcher In The Rye
14. This I Love


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Perfect Criminal on December 23, 2008, 02:53:06 PM
1. Sorry
2. IRS
3. Scraped
4. Better
5. Prostitute
6. If The World
7. This I Love
8. Street Of Dreams
9. Shackler's Revenge
10. TWAT
11. Chinese Democracy
12. Catcher In The Rye
13. Riad N' The Bedouins
14. Madagascar


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: GnRStL09 on December 24, 2008, 12:00:23 PM
1)  Better
2)  Shackler's Revenge
3)  Sorry
4)  Street of Dreams
5)  I.R.S.
6)  Catcher in the Rye
7)  Chinese Democracy
8 )  There was a Time
9)  Madagascar
10) Scraped
11) Riad N' the Bedouins
12)  This I Love
13)  If the World
14)  Prostitute


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: carmiedisco12 on December 25, 2008, 08:03:33 AM
What are you on about???

I'm on about the fact that you don't know what you're talking about:

Well thats an opinion not fact......Im allowed to have MY opinion,its not something you can argue factually......What exactly dont i know??? That its perfect and anyone with a different point of view must just be ignorant?

1 Prostitute (only criticism is overly produced vocals otherwise awesome)

Overly produced? That means what exactly?

You dont understand the concept of overproduction???  Ok, sometimes when you add too much synthetic effects or too digitally alter vocals or organic instruments it can take the organic nature away a little too much....its a subjective thing...and in my OPINION...and just my opinion there are ELEMENTS that I personally prefer a little less 'cooked'. Id generally would prefer Joy Division to Def Leppard say (an extreme example)

4 IRS (fantastic song...like a great Zep song with GNR attitude.....some lyrics are cheesy and the production is muffled and far below If the world / CD production wise...sounds like a demo quality wise??? and a fe too many keyboards when guitar crunch was required)

Muffled how? Maybe you should get some sort of decent listening equipment, everything's clear on this end.

Well my brother records his music in my basement, we have about $50,000 worth of recording equipment including headphones worth $500 a piece....Im just saying that elements of the track have less clarity and defenition compared to some other tracks.....Ive had a few musician friends independantly mention this.....Im not being nasty ....just an observation. It may just be that the song is recorded at a different time /studio??? Id have to check the booklet. But the production seems inconsistent over the album (yes im being picky)

8 Sorry....pretty good but meh

Define. Meh means nothing.

A little like ho hum....like hmmm doesnt really hit me........a lot of my fave songs I didnt click with initially.....I may adore sorry in a year....just my initial reaction was Meh.

9 Scraped (amazing vocals....still the basis of the song isnt great again but great vocals.....the last minute or so drags it down)

Basis of the song, which part would that be exactly? The killer riff or the great drums or what?
I mean, you really haven't explained anything here.

Just my opinion....The drums are fantastic...the vocals are great....I cant explain that....The SONG just doesnt really grab me despite the excellent elements....not that I should have to justify personal musical taste. The performance is great, the song itself doesnt do that much for me .

10 Rhiad ( coulda been close to Jungle but 1...whats he on about??....2 The guitars...no dynamics....3...ohh my frustration part sucks....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

Christ....I know what a metaphor is......doesnt clarify the meaning for me though....All I meant by that comment is if the listener cant relate on an emotional /intellectual level because the emotion or message is difficult to grasp then its a little harder to relate to.

12 Catcher ( How to take a good simple songs and destroy it by overproduction....and then have a brilliant soslo and replace it by somehting MASSIVELY inferior......a crime against what should have been in the top 5 on the album

I mean that IMO.....there are some songs that cry out for a more simple recording....I personally adore the acoustic version of your crazy....lets say you add 3 more layers of vocals, strings, synth a section with looping kazoo done with seriously heavy reverb. Record this 1000 times live taking the best 3 seconds of each recording...then pasting those 'best bits' together in Pro Tools.........THAT would be overproduction and I guarantee nowhere near as magical as the more simple version.
I just personally feel that the brilliance of the song became a little hidden with so many layers.
A personal choice...I think November rain would be a better song if recorder just with piano, 3 violins a cello and the band. Almost like a Skin N Bones version recorded live in a Theatre.

13 Madagascar ( a good song....overly long for what it has to offer....the vocals, my god the vocals......like seeing a fat old guy in a muscle shirt.....Sorry, the vaerage guy on the street can sing better, so wobbly )

You're an average guy on the street; sing better.


I couldnt hit those notes but , drop by I'll grab you a beer , we can go down to my cellar and see how i go :) Again I just find that song very difficult to listen to due to the strained vocals. Its my story and Im sticking to it :) Apologies for the blasphemy :)
Axl just sounds like he's seriously struggling on this one and IMO would have been better if he used a voice he finds easier to use.

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14 TWAT ( like a song written by a commitee.....like they meshed 5 good bits of diff songs into one and it doesnt gel....the vocals are weak and hard to listen to....and suprisingly the production is very poor.....plus drags on and on

Do you even know what production is?

Do you?? Perhaps I should patronise you back by pasting a wikipedia link :)






Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: ecwfan on December 25, 2008, 08:32:05 PM
                My list

1)   There was a Time

2)  Catcher in the Rye
3)  I.R.S.
4) This I Love
5)  Chinese Democracy
6)  Better
7)  Madagascar
 8 ) Street of Dreams
 9)   Scraped
10) Riad N' the Bedouins
11) Prostitute
12) Shackler's Revenge
13) If the World
14)  Sorry


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: tippasaurus on December 27, 2008, 04:11:58 PM
After listening to this album for a month, I still can't completely come to a conclusion, but here's my list right now:

1.  If The World
2.  This I Love
3.  Sorry
4.  Shackler's Revenge
5.  Better
6.  Prostitute
7.  Madagascar
8.  Street of Dreams
9.  Catcher in the Rye
10. There Was A Time
11. Chinese Democracy
12. Scraped
13. Rhiad
14. IRS


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: Skunk on December 27, 2008, 06:45:22 PM
14 TWAT ( like a song written by a commitee.....like they meshed 5 good bits of diff songs into one and it doesnt gel....the vocals are weak and hard to listen to....and suprisingly the production is very poor.....plus drags on and on

CD 7.7/10


I'm all for disagreeing and recognizing different tastes, for example i happen to like the solo in Catcher, but i've heard others like you who disagree.... but what i can't believe you said is that the vocals on TWAT are weak and hard to listen to!  :o
The vocals at the end of the song are sick! Even Axl said they're some of his favorite on the album.

I also think you were way too harsh on the Madagascar vocals. I like them and think they suit the song, but even if you don't, you can't really think Axl was "straining" can you? I'm pretty sure in studio, with all the time in the world, he got the vocals he wanted on the song and could have done different if he wanted. Maybe you preferred a live version or something, but let's not pretend Axl released a studio recording with strained vocals, as if he would have done better if he could have.



Anyway, how i rank the songs on CD changes almost everyday, but today it's something like this:

1. Better
2. Prostitute
3. Street of Dreams
4. This I Love
5. I.R.S
6. There Was a Time
7. Madagascar
8. Sorry
9. Chinese Democracy
10. Catcher in the Rye
11. Scraped
12. Shackler's Revenge
13. If the World
14. Rhiad


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: circusboy666 on December 28, 2008, 01:06:15 AM

first listen                                 one month later
1-prostitute                             1-prostitute(E)
2-madagascar                         2-sorry(+10)
3-riad and the bedouins          3-shacklers(+2)
4-street of dreams                  4-scraped(+9)
5-shacklers                              5-chinese democracy(+1)
6-chinese democracy               6-irs(+3)
7-better                                   7-madagascar(-5)
8-if the world                           8-street of dreams   (-4)           
9-irs                                         9-better(-2)
10-twat                                   10-riad and the bedouins(-7)
11-catcher in the rye               11-twat(-1)
12-sorry                                   12-this i love(+2)
13-scraped                              13-if the world(-5)
14-this i love                            14-catcher in the rye(-3)


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: demo23nz on December 30, 2008, 08:56:48 AM
What are you on about???

I'm on about the fact that you don't know what you're talking about:

1 Prostitute (only criticism is overly produced vocals otherwise awesome)

Overly produced? That means what exactly?

4 IRS (fantastic song...like a great Zep song with GNR attitude.....some lyrics are cheesy and the production is muffled and far below If the world / CD production wise...sounds like a demo quality wise??? and a fe too many keyboards when guitar crunch was required)

Muffled how? Maybe you should get some sort of decent listening equipment, everything's clear on this end.

8 Sorry....pretty good but meh

Define. Meh means nothing.

9 Scraped (amazing vocals....still the basis of the song isnt great again but great vocals.....the last minute or so drags it down)

Basis of the song, which part would that be exactly? The killer riff or the great drums or what?
I mean, you really haven't explained anything here.

10 Rhiad ( coulda been close to Jungle but 1...whats he on about??....2 The guitars...no dynamics....3...ohh my frustration part sucks....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

12 Catcher ( How to take a good simple songs and destroy it by overproduction....and then have a brilliant soslo and replace it by somehting MASSIVELY inferior......a crime against what should have been in the top 5 on the album

Overproduction? Again, what do you mean?

13 Madagascar ( a good song....overly long for what it has to offer....the vocals, my god the vocals......like seeing a fat old guy in a muscle shirt.....Sorry, the vaerage guy on the street can sing better, so wobbly )

You're an average guy on the street; sing better.

14 TWAT ( like a song written by a commitee.....like they meshed 5 good bits of diff songs into one and it doesnt gel....the vocals are weak and hard to listen to....and suprisingly the production is very poor.....plus drags on and on

Do you even know what production is?


Wow. That's a lot of complaining about someone's honest opinion of the album.
And you don't know what 'overly produced' means?!


Title: Re: Rank "Chinese" from top to bottom....best to least liked...
Post by: AdZ on December 30, 2008, 05:14:00 PM
Do you even know what production is?

Yes thanks, doing a degree in it certainly helps.


I do know what over-produced means, I just happen to believe slathering that label on this album as some people enjoy doing is completely wrong.

The production on the album is simply extremely polished, there's a difference.