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People on various boards say there is a skip at 1:19 of "Scraped." Has anyone else had a problem?

UPDATE: A few others have stated that their discs DO NOT skip. It seems this may be an isolated defect (thank God).

Wow absolutely not! Unless its a defect on the actual discs which would be surprising. Replayed it a few times just to see if I could here it and at 1:19 its like fucking kick ass butter. Smooth no skips.

 :drool:

 :beer:

I hope they learned their lesson with the whole Live Era fiasco.

You know, I bought it the day it came out and I never had a single one of those crazy problems.

What problems? I didn't know there was an issue with Live Era.

Does anybody know if the CD is copy-protected?

It probably will be, yes.  If you want to rip it, disable autorun.

Do you think it'll be something damaging like the big Sony rootkit scam or just make it a little harder to rip it?

Some of the first shipments of Live Era had a skip towards the end of Paradise City.  It was corrected shortly thereafter.  

I sure hope there are no skips on Chinese Democracy.   :-\  

I sure hope there is... Talk about a collectors item  : ok:

It doesn't skip at 1.19, the two different vocals are just badly pasted together and it sounds like Axl squeaks for a nanosecond.

You can also hear where they cut and pasted Axl's vocal at the end of Don't Cry to make it sound like he was holding the note for longer than he actually did in the studio : ok:

I noticed this too. Is it supposed to be like this?  ??? It's a nanoflaw imo...


I never noticed what you're talking about in don't cry tho. I was thinking that if i can hold that line for so long, so can Axl...

I can definitely hear what you're saying at 1:19. If that's a cut and paste of vocals someone did a very poor job as I can do better with the very little experience I have.

So no one else is thinking this is an error? Interesting....

a.

Apparently it skipped as Axl was shouting "Las Vegas" so it just repeated Las Vegas over and over. Also, apparently the dsics were backwards, disc 1 was marked as disc 2 and vice versa.

I say apparently because I never had that problem and am just remembering the complaints from 1999 or whenever Live Era came out.

Mine worked with windows media player, but it cudnt get album info, I had to do it myself

same here

I got Live Era a few days early from the Mom and Pop record store and the my discs are labeled wrong and it skips at the Las Vegas part in PC.  It gives it character, but I was a bit confused that day when I had actually listened to disc 2 first.

i just got done listening to scraped and had no problems with it so i guess it was just the luck of the draw

It's interesting to note that the skip is in the copy of Scraped streaming from MySpace

Those who DO NOT have the skip, could you take a listen and see if you notice a difference in yours and the one on MySpace? So then maybe we can see if its just something that you guys don't view as a skip, but is still there

no skip here

I am having trouble ripping to itunes....how would I disable autorun on itunes?

Yeah, Im having a problem with Windows media player. Can't get the album info

mine has a skip at 1:19

same here. i have to edit it myself.

There is a skip, but I think it's due to poor production in Pro Tools rather than a physical defect on the discs.

Yep, mine has the bug at 1:19.  No physical defect from the disc, though.  Something in the recording. 

Sucks I guess, but no biggie.

I guess instead of "Scraped" you can just nick-name the track "Skipped".

 ;)

That name is reserved for 'This I Love'

maybe it's not a defect or anything . Could be the way they wanted the thing to be.

No way.. It's a flaw in production for sure.  The song would need to be remixed / remastered to fix it.  I didn't even notice it after listening to the song about 15 times before I saw this thread, so it is MINOR.  But now I'll hear it everytime dammit!  Thanks alot!

After listening to Scraped on the Myspace page, I can confirm the bug is indeed there, but at 2:12 instead of 1:19.  The Myspace track is slightly different than the one on the CD.  Lyrically though it occurs at the same spot.  1st line of the 2nd verse.

"Sometimes I feel like my life's a catastrophe."

It happens on the word "my".

Doesn't seem intentional to me, but only one man knows for sure.

There is definitely a "defect" at 1:19.

Axl's voice kinda takes a few millisecond reverse there. It doesn't seem like an auto-tuning problem, more like problem with the vocal track layering?

I guess thats what you get for rushing things  ;D

Im undr the impression that its supposed to be there.  They are playing with vocals, cut and paste type stuff, all over this song.  Its not a flaw.

Nope! No Skip!

There is a flaw at 1:19.

On the CD, Vinyl, and iTunes versions. I heard all versions today.

My CD seemed okay.

darn it... i just noticed it on the itunes download because i read this thread.  hehe, oh well...

I don't hear any flaw at all

It doesnt sound like a skip, more like a hiccup or record scratch on the word "MY" which I still feel was intended.

My vinyl has some skipping issues right out of the package.  I may take it back for a new copy.

Bought the CD in Toronto, Canada, and I can definitely hear this at 1:19 of 'Scraped'. As others have mentioned, it's barely noticeable unless you're looking for it, but it happens during the line above. Almost like the words "Sometimes I feel like my" and "life's a catastrophe" were pasted together, and you can hear the jump cut.

Per Axl:

The song sounds like it should sound.

The skip you hear is intentional. It's not a defect.




/jarmo

Thats what I thought.

Thanks for clearing it up. :beer:

Great to hear. Topic closed.  :peace:

Thanks, Jarmo! I haven't even noticed it on my copy, though.  : ok:

Tell Axl that I said hi!  :beer:

Thank you for the final word!

Hello McFly...jeez...is it not that obvious...LOL...I love it though :hihi:

Not to sound like an ass... But if there IS indeed an error, do you think they'd own up to it so soon after the release of an album that has had so much controversy?  I mean I understand that errors occur, but I think the expectations for an album this long in the making are unreal and any bad press like this would be bad for GNR/the labels/etc.  I know if I worked on this album for so long I wouldn't be so quick to admit to error.  Just saying...

PS.  I'm really pissed that there are errors with the lyrics on the CD booklet.  How hard is that stuff to get right?  Come on guys...

Welcome to vinyl.

Good point! I think it's soooo easy!!!

I've noticed it as well.  Sounds like a pro-tools cut and paste issue.

I didnt know there would be people thinking its an error...

It's axl playing with the vocals, jumping from one track to another. I think it sounds awesome and very original.

If you don't believe Axl, there's an easy way to get a definitive 'defect or intentional' reply from the other person in the band who is considered an "expert" on these 'sounds' things.  Next time you see Chris in a club, go up to him ... strike up a conversation ... and then non-chalantly throw out how you heard that Axl said that this sound was intentional.

If Chris' favorite beverage comes shooting out of his nostrils because he's trying to stifle a laugh, then you know it's a defect.  If not and he just looks at you like you're an ass for even questioning what Axl said, then it's an intentional part of the song.  :hihi:

Inserted the CD, ripped.  No issue on iTunes here.

Sorry skips slightly on the " I don't want to dooooo it " part on my disc - but It could be intentional...or maybe not :confused:

If there is any errors on the record it is:

This I Love 0:39-0:40, right before "She holds her pain inside". Sounds like a copy and paste error.


The one in Scraped? Doesn't sound like a error to me.

maybe some of you dudes need to take some can air and clean your shit.

What you guys are calling a skip in Scraped sounds more like he's just hitting a high note.

dumb thread

Does anyone else feel as though the volume of the vocals decreases at an awkward spot right after the beginning chorus, like, right in the middle of a word?

During the line: "Sometimes I feel like the world is on top of me"

It sounds to me at least, that the vocals get quieter over "I feel like", instead of just making them quieter at the beginning of the verse

 :hihi:  Now that made me laugh.  I grew some damn grey hairs waiting for this!

I think this is a studio affect done on his voice on purpose, nothing more. It's sounds very similar to something they'd do on hip hop/r+b albums.   

sounds like someone had the hiccups and they threw it in there for shits n giggles

What the fuck, am I listening to the same album or what? I didn't notice one goddamn thing that made me think it's a skip, how can people not be more open to the fact that the track is supposed to be that way? The thought of a skip in the cd didn't even cross my mind

sounds like a bad copy n paste to me, but if Axl did it intentionally then fair enough.

On UYI1 theres that nasty scratching sound at the start of 'Dead Horse' (56secs in) that i used to think was a CD error.

Even from the first time that I heard it, I never noticed anything about it that made me think that it was an error in any way, shape, or form. I hardly even noticed anything out of the ordinary from reading this thread. It's obviously intentional.

Just kick back, relax, and enjoy.  :peace:

...and thank God CD wasn't mastered/mixed by the Death Magnetic guys!  :hihi:

Really....deep breaths everybody, deep breaths.

Enjoy yourself.

That too!  :hihi:

Completely off topic but...

....the engineer at Sterling Sound who was responsible for the mastering has completely distanced himself from the final product that is "Death Magnetic".  That's almost unheard of. The guy responsible for the mastering...Ted Jensen...said that Rubin brick walled the mixes he was given.  In other words, that's what the source material, for the ALBUM (notice it sounds fine in Guitar Hero) sounded like...because Rubin wanted it to sound that way.

With regards to my previous post concerning the similar cut & paste job on Don't Cry, I hear the join at 4:29 in the song. It's harder to make out and miles away from what is heard on Scraped. Maybe Axl did intend it that way on Scraped but that doesn't stop it sounding like an error. It's as if someone went crazy with Auto-Tune  : ok:

Continued OT.. sorry...  :-[

Yeah, I knew it really wasn't the guys who'd normally be responsible. And I have the GH3 version which is the one I listen to. Sometimes it's great to have a perfectionist running the show. Especially when his vision matches mine/the audience.  : ok:

Definetly a skip at 1.19

Would never have noticed if it wasnt for u guys :rant:

Love the fact Axl would claim its deliberate

'oh yeah, eh, we deliberately put an error in a song we'd recorded and re-recorded for a decade, ya know for....er....why the hell did we do that again?'

Still a great song, error or not

that....was a nutcracker,
courtesy of mike clink ( in the liner notes)

It's not a skip, dude. It sounds perfectly fine on my copy.

Didn't Axl just confirm there is something "intentional" at 1:19?  The whole audio doesn't skip, just the vocals.

Heard the skip today, it is a skip in the vocals, not a big deal or anything, and I really don't mind, but it is noticeable.

1:19 there's a one second glitch in the beat/vocal line... i noticed it, then saw this thread

And operantly didn't read it before posting in it.

I did think it was a skip initially.

It's so brief its not a big deal.  I have two copies and it's on both at the 1:19 mark of Scraped.

But IT IS NOT A SKIP to anyone still wondering.

Axl said it was not a defect.  Good enough for me.

Whatever it is that happens at1:19 is a bit annoying but I'm glad I can only pick it out once in the song.

My take on this is that it's definitely a spliced vocal that wasn't edited properly. I'll take Axl's word that it was intentional, but I don't think he meant that they did it on purpose, simply that they knew it was there and decided to leave it in the song (therefore, it is not a manufacturing defect). Bands leave mistakes in songs all the time. Sure it's possible they did this on purpose, but I can't imagine why.

Doesn't matter, I'm digging that song (Scraped) more and more every day.

you people are stupid, its not a skip, this little ''copypaste sound" is all over the song. It sounds cool and it is intentional.

Maybe it's a code that Axl is trying to tell us.
1:19
Maybe when sales of C.D. hits 1,190,00.00 he's going to do an interview on one of the late shows.  ;D

Or 1:19 is really 9-11....... ::)

Or one nineteen means Axl is one and it took 19 other people to help him with Chinese Democracy......... :rofl:

19? that all?

I've got a defect... 1:19 into scraped... nice... made in china I guess: ok:

yea, i have this skip on the vinyl, too

One more time, with feeling........

You know, after listening to the song a few times I don't think it's a defect either, despite what others might think. If you listen to the song, you'll hear the same elements of this "skip" at different parts of the song, but I think it's just more noticeable at that one spot. For example, in the first "don't try to stop us now" there's a bit of this influence right before "now." Also the 37 second mark, and many other parts as well.

I agree that it sounds unintentional.  It's easier to say it was purposely done after the fact without giving an explanation than it is to admit such a goofy error went unnoticed in amidst of so many years of fine-toothed combing.

Either way though, it doesn't affect the song in any way for me.

i do think it sounds better that way, fits with the personality of the song itself, as if axl is interupting himself

It's kind of like that NIN song "Discipline". Where Trent actually disciplines himself in the song (i.e., he starts too early on a couple of the versus and holds himself back after realizing he's made a mistake).

I think Axl should come on out and do a little chat on the album, what the songs mean, why there's things in like this in there, etc. Would be pretty cool to hear his take on it and the meaning behind some of the songs, the production, people involved, stories, etc.

a.

oh, you guys thought that was a defect, he sang it that way for effect ;)

It's an effect.  It happens on the word "life's".  The line is "Sometimes I feel like my life life's a catastrophe".  Don't you get it. :confused:  Life's a catastrophe.  The skip effect is put in to emphasize the fact that the singer goes though periods where nothing seems to work out for him.  That's the first thing I thought when hearing it for the fist time.  Not a defect.  ::)

If such small "glitch" like that is intentional then I dont know what went wrong with the whole "booklet' dilemma,
but im glad for it in a way so I can hear the different overdubs that I wouldn't hear with just a normal listen.  :peace:

Skip or not...it sounds bad!  :-\
IMO is a skip!! Too strange...and waaaay noticeable...how come there are people who don`t notice It??
How come there are people who dont listen to Baz on sorry??? Are you deaf or something??? :rant:

What part of this don't you understand?

I tend to walk with a skip and love the skip.
and every hop, skip and jump on cd. the throb of it. :love:

That was mildly erotic.

Or rather heavily heavenly.
imo those jumps skips  and hops are making this album distinctive from other masterpieces.
this album gives you wings. listening to it you can fly. and sink.

mine came scrached, had to buy one more.

A skip on 1:19?  I know what you're talking about but I've always liked that part since the first time I heard the song. I just thought it was the way he sang it. I think it fits the rest of the song.