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Title: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: BodyCount on November 15, 2008, 01:07:14 PM
http://www.hmv.ca/hmvcaweb/en_CA/displayProductDetails.do?sku=1257433



Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate Merch Box : LTD by Guns & Roses
Price: CDN $120.99

Add to wish list
 

Date of release: 16/12/2008
Format: CD
Catalogue number: 1794459
Supplier: GEFFEN


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 15, 2008, 01:19:15 PM
Hmmmm.
CD - $12
LP - $20
T-Shirt - $25

What do you get for $64? What did a ticket cost for '07 shows?  Maybe AFD/Lies/UYI 1&2/TSI CD's for 'new' fans?



Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: jarmo on November 15, 2008, 01:36:31 PM
A pimp cup?

 ;)



/jarmo


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: falungong69 on November 15, 2008, 02:14:47 PM
why are they releasing this later than the regular album?  now i have to wait an extra month or pay more money.  i guess i will have to pay more money.  i hope that axl agrees to donate some portion of his profits to charity though. 


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: axl32rose on November 15, 2008, 02:20:33 PM
Hmmmm.
CD - $12
LP - $20
T-Shirt - $25

What do you get for $64? What did a ticket cost for '07 shows?  Maybe AFD/Lies/UYI 1&2/TSI CD's for 'new' fans?




Quite Possible!!!!!   That could be it,   makes sense too


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Jim Bob on November 15, 2008, 02:22:17 PM
why are they releasing this later than the regular album?  now i have to wait an extra month or pay more money.  i guess i will have to pay more money.  i hope that axl agrees to donate some portion of his profits to charity though. 

Whats it to you where the money goes?    This looks like its throwing a bone to us hardcore fans who've been dreaming of something like this for years.   :drool:

BTW for U.S. fans, $120 Canadian Dollars is about $97 USD.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 15, 2008, 04:23:33 PM
I certainly hope this doesn't stay a mystery like the AFD 'Limited Edition' on BB site...


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on November 15, 2008, 08:01:19 PM
is there anyway of finding out what this all has init?

i'm gonna say BS until somethings posted some where else, how many times has HMV said something with out a discribtion in accordance with Chinese Democracy?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: suicide on November 16, 2008, 05:27:05 AM
I hope it's something like the Metallica Death Magnetic Coffin Box which includes the CD, a CD with the demos (there already out there so why not release them in great quality), a making of DVD, a t-shirt, flag and pick-card, ...

Something like this could be worth $ 100 to me. But I hope they announce what's in this box before the album is released, otherwise a lot of fans will be disappointed with the copy they bought the 23rd.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: suicide on November 20, 2008, 11:00:55 AM
I guess we've got ourselves some pics now:

source: http://www.large-online.nl/bin/shop.php?prog=shop&mid=0&article=437931&funktion=PRODUCTINFO&bildrub=search&product=GUNS%20N'%20ROSES:%20Chinese%20democracy&tc=SEARCH (http://www.large-online.nl/bin/shop.php?prog=shop&mid=0&article=437931&funktion=PRODUCTINFO&bildrub=search&product=GUNS%20N'%20ROSES:%20Chinese%20democracy&tc=SEARCH)

(http://www.large-online.nl/pics/300_437931.jpg)

(http://www.large-online.nl/pics/300_437931a.jpg)

(http://www.large-online.nl/pics/300_437931b.jpg)

(http://www.large-online.nl/pics/300_437931c.jpg)

The shirt looks fuckin' great! No details 'bout what else is in the box though.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: suicide on November 20, 2008, 11:09:12 AM
More info but in German: http://www.emp.de/bin/shop.php?prog=shop&mid=0&article=437931&funktion=PRODUCTINFO&bildrub=search&product=GUNS%20N (http://www.emp.de/bin/shop.php?prog=shop&mid=0&article=437931&funktion=PRODUCTINFO&bildrub=search&product=GUNS%20N)

Feel free to translate: Dieses limitierte Sammlerboxset (Gr??e: ca. 30 x 30 x 5 cm) beinhaltet neben der CD inkl. 24seitigem Booklet, einem exklusiven Shirt (Gr??e L, 100% Baumwolle), einem Schl?sselanh?nger, G?rtelschnalle, Bandana, sowie Aufn?her/Patch.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: TomFriend on November 20, 2008, 11:09:59 AM
I guess we've got ourselves some pics now:

source: http://www.large-online.nl/bin/shop.php?prog=shop&mid=0&article=437931&funktion=PRODUCTINFO&bildrub=search&product=GUNS%20N'%20ROSES:%20Chinese%20democracy&tc=SEARCH (http://www.large-online.nl/bin/shop.php?prog=shop&mid=0&article=437931&funktion=PRODUCTINFO&bildrub=search&product=GUNS%20N'%20ROSES:%20Chinese%20democracy&tc=SEARCH)

(http://www.large-online.nl/pics/300_437931.jpg)

(http://www.large-online.nl/pics/300_437931a.jpg)

(http://www.large-online.nl/pics/300_437931b.jpg)

(http://www.large-online.nl/pics/300_437931c.jpg)

The shirt looks fuckin' great! No details 'bout what else is in the box though.

Oh fuck yes.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 20, 2008, 12:32:49 PM
More info but in German: http://www.emp.de/bin/shop.php?prog=shop&mid=0&article=437931&funktion=PRODUCTINFO&bildrub=search&product=GUNS%20N (http://www.emp.de/bin/shop.php?prog=shop&mid=0&article=437931&funktion=PRODUCTINFO&bildrub=search&product=GUNS%20N)

Feel free to translate: Dieses limitierte Sammlerboxset (Gr??e: ca. 30 x 30 x 5 cm) beinhaltet neben der CD inkl. 24seitigem Booklet, einem exklusiven Shirt (Gr??e L, 100% Baumwolle), einem Schl?sselanh?nger, G?rtelschnalle, Bandana, sowie Aufn?her/Patch.
This limited Edition Box Set (size: ca.  30 xs 30 xs 5 cm) includes - next to the CD:  24 Page Booklet, an exclusive Shirt (size L, 100% cotton), a key follower, belt buckle, Bandana, as well as Sew-on Patch. 


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: BodyCount on November 20, 2008, 01:34:28 PM
Crap...

This is going to be the most expencive December EVER!  :hihi:

I feel so greedy, i want all of what's coming out...  :crying:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Dont Try Me on November 20, 2008, 01:39:18 PM
Crap...

This is going to be the most expencive December EVER!  :hihi:

I feel so greedy, i want all of what's coming out...  :crying:

 :hihi: not everything...but allot yes  :P

off topic: tomorrow morning I'm gonna get my copy!  ;D






Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: jacob_uno on November 20, 2008, 02:01:05 PM
Can anybody see what the shipping rates for Europe is at EMP.de???


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Tynia on November 20, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
Can anybody see what the shipping rates for Europe is at EMP.de???

I guess, it should be avaliable everywhere in Europe  :) Got info on Monday from Universal Music Poland that they'll have it here in December :) (but back then didn't know how it's gonna look like and what it'll contain - they just informed me about "some"  :hihi: collector's box  : ok:)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: twatty on November 21, 2008, 06:40:31 PM
This is available in Australia

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/Product/395980/CHINESE-DEMOCRACY-(DELUXE-EDITION)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Jimmy? on November 21, 2008, 06:42:22 PM
WOW, nice find!!! Hope to get these in the UK soon! : ok:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: badapple81 on November 21, 2008, 06:44:11 PM
I saw these when I got my copy. Ridiculous price! No way I would buy it... probably.. maybe.. possibly..


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: TomFriend on November 21, 2008, 08:19:24 PM
Also available here: http://www.large-online.nl/bin/shop.php?prog=shop&mid=0&article=437931&funktion=PRODUCTINFO&bildrub=search&product=GUNS%20N%27%20ROSES:%20Chinese%20democracy&tc=SEARCH

Looks like we've all got more to enjoy mid-December  :)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Xtap on November 21, 2008, 08:24:38 PM
I want to buy it, but that price is ridiculous.

$110 for a shirt, bandana, keyring, patch and buckle. No thanks.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: TomFriend on November 21, 2008, 08:29:47 PM
Think how much all that would cost you at the merch stand at a gig...that's how I'm justifying it to myself anyway.  :-X


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on November 21, 2008, 10:32:54 PM
Is this available in the United States of America?

This may not be a popular opinion with everyone here on the board, but I think the t-shirt is...bad.

It's like the shirts all these people wear nowadays, the ones that have too much going on.

See:  Affliction, Ed Hardy, Tap Out etc....


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: wadey on November 28, 2008, 03:43:09 PM
Now available at HMV uk for ?38.99 with free postage...........just ordered mine  8)

http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1;-1&sku=912615 (http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1;-1&sku=912615)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: thesloth on November 28, 2008, 03:49:07 PM
Ya not something I will buy just way to much cash


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Grizzly on December 08, 2008, 04:07:32 AM
Limited Deluxe Box Set at play.com. Due for release on 15/12/2008

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/8241264/Chinese-Democracy/Product.html# (http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/8241264/Chinese-Democracy/Product.html#)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: mrarkadin on December 08, 2008, 09:20:05 AM
I want to buy it, but that price is ridiculous.

$110 for a shirt, bandana, keyring, patch and buckle. No thanks.

Is this the sort of boxset that other bands put out? (I don't know, I don't collect anything other than music). I can't compare it to anything else. For over 100 dollars though I'd think there'd be DVDs or extra CDs or something. This almost seems like it isn't band related.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: suicide on December 08, 2008, 10:41:51 AM
It's not over 100 dollars.
To be honest, other bands often put out better boxsets than this one (judging by the description and pics). If you compare it to the Metallica boxset this "Limited Deluxe Box Set" is a piece of shit. As a GN'R collector I ordered it anyways and I hope I'll have it by friday.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: jarmo on December 09, 2008, 05:02:34 PM
What place has the best price on this item?

The European boxset I mean....

Play.com:
Chinese Democracy (Limited Deluxe Box Set)
EUR 55.99 Free Delivery
?39.99 Free Delivery

amazon.co.uk:
?38.19 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery.

amazon.de
EUR 48,97

hmv.com
?38.99 Free Delivery


I haven't seen it available here in Sweden yet.





/jarmo


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: gunns1 on December 09, 2008, 05:10:30 PM
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/Product/395980/CHINESE-DEMOCRACY-(DELUXE-EDITION)


(http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/images/assetimages/cat_gnr-contents.gif)


$129.00 in Australia.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: TomFriend on December 09, 2008, 06:51:33 PM
What place has the best price on this item?

The European boxset I mean....

Play.com:
Chinese Democracy (Limited Deluxe Box Set)
EUR 55.99 Free Delivery
?39.99 Free Delivery

amazon.co.uk:
?38.19 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery.

amazon.de
EUR 48,97

hmv.com
?38.99 Free Delivery


I haven't seen it available here in Sweden yet.





/jarmo

Play.com, definitely - they used to do free shipping all throughout Europe. If they still do, that's a great deal, since domestically in the Netherlands its 59 euros at the very least, not including postage.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: LordRazZ on December 09, 2008, 09:18:41 PM
If that's the ultimate CD set? It's a load of shit.

Honestly. No DVD? No interviews? Not a god damn thing but a bunch of cheap shill.

Sorry, Axl...that shit ain't cool.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: jarmo on December 09, 2008, 09:41:46 PM
If that's the ultimate CD set?

No, more like a special collector's box.

The album plus some merchandise....





/jarmo


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: italysfinest1985 on December 10, 2008, 10:11:16 AM
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/Product/395980/CHINESE-DEMOCRACY-(DELUXE-EDITION)


(http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/images/assetimages/cat_gnr-contents.gif)


$129.00 in Australia.

Anyway to obtain that shirt outside of the Limited Edition packages???


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: keithos27 on December 10, 2008, 04:46:28 PM
i'll pass...


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: wadey on December 11, 2008, 08:51:52 AM
HMV just emailed me to say my Box Set is now on its way to me  : ok: : ok: : ok:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: AC on December 11, 2008, 10:00:35 AM
Other than the shirt and the CD, is any of it actually usable unless you're about 10 years old? And I don't know a 10 year old with that kind of cash, unless he/she is dealing.

a.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: wadey on December 11, 2008, 02:03:58 PM
Other than the shirt and the CD, is any of it actually usable unless you're about 10 years old? And I don't know a 10 year old with that kind of cash, unless he/she is dealing.

a.

usable?.............why would you want to use a collectable piece?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on December 11, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
The reason I do not have this box-set is because of the shirt.

I'll leave it at that.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: duga on December 12, 2008, 07:09:20 AM
I want the shirt, nothing else.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: TomFriend on December 13, 2008, 11:16:01 AM
I got my copy of the fan pack today.

The shirt's pretty cool. Good quality, decent size, Fruit Of The Loom. The paint/blood dripping kinda logo on the front, blank on the back.

The bandanna would double as a pretty good flag.

The keyring and belt buckle are both neat, solid metal. Again, good quality. The patch is as you'd expect, a fabric sew-on, rectangular, standard sort of size.

The box itself is really nice and sturdy. Too bad its not a couple of inches bigger - you could have used it to keep the vinyl in.

As for the CD, its exactly the same as the one you've all already got, no difference whatsoever, same mistakes in the booklet.

I'm happy with it. Some decent merch, only cost 59euros which I believe works out considerably cheaper than the inflated price in the U.S.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: axleire on December 14, 2008, 08:15:45 AM
Can you get the fan packs in Ireland?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: TomFriend on December 14, 2008, 08:37:06 PM
HMV should have it from Monday as far as I know.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: wadey on December 15, 2008, 08:43:13 AM
heres my box set............not gonna crack it open though !!  : ok:

(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/wadey9/P151208_1327.jpg)
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/wadey9/P151208_1328.jpg)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: suicide on December 15, 2008, 09:00:29 AM
Still waiting on mine, should arrive any day now... I will open it but I will never use it. And if anyone's interested I'll post some pics.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: wadey on December 15, 2008, 09:03:37 AM
Still waiting on mine, should arrive any day now... I will open it but I will never use it. And if anyone's interested I'll post some pics.

i would love to see the pics...... i will open mine eventually but not just yet ;)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: georgie_beans on December 18, 2008, 10:01:32 AM
I got mine today and I have to say im pretty pleased with it. At ?38.99 the price isnt that bad when you consider that you are getting CD, a t-shirt that you would probably pay ?20 for at a live show, and all the other stuff. Its a lot cheaper here than in the US though.

Its funny that China has banned the record, but the key ring and belt buckle were both made there! It seems that they allow their companies to take money from the GnR camp to manufacture these things, but wont allow anyone to return the favour to GnR through sales of the record.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: ppbebe on December 18, 2008, 10:22:37 AM
I hear hmv in china sells the album. their limited first edition was with a t shirt.

Still waiting on mine, should arrive any day now... I will open it but I will never use it. And if anyone's interested I'll post some pics.

i would love to see the pics...... i will open mine eventually but not just yet ;)

so you 2 are not wearing the t, bandana, patch and the buckle?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: martyngnr on December 18, 2008, 10:32:33 AM
Anybody able to tell me what size the shirt is please?  :peace:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: anythinggoes II on December 18, 2008, 10:37:05 AM
Its Large

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j121/anythinggoes_album/2008_1215blackstonecherry0292.jpg)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: martyngnr on December 18, 2008, 10:50:51 AM
Its Large

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j121/anythinggoes_album/2008_1215blackstonecherry0292.jpg)

And it's AWESOME! I'm going to buy it right now!  : ok:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: suicide on December 19, 2008, 03:00:44 AM
I hear hmv in china sells the album. their limited first edition was with a t shirt.

Still waiting on mine, should arrive any day now... I will open it but I will never use it. And if anyone's interested I'll post some pics.

i would love to see the pics...... i will open mine eventually but not just yet ;)

so you 2 are not wearing the t, bandana, patch and the buckle?
No, I won't. I've got plenty of GN'R shirts that I do wear, just want to keep the box (which by the way still hasn't arrived  :-\) and everything in it in the best condition possible.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Jarrod on December 19, 2008, 05:18:39 AM
This fucking rocks...But damn people, Ill be opening mine and using all the merch, as I did with the UYI gold limited edition CDs and T-shirt, The Dead Horse CD single pack and all the other merch Ive bought over the years. All my old GnR T-shirts are faded and pretty much falling apart, so a new GnR T will come in handy. Ill not use the patch, but will use the belt buckle...Still have the belt buckle I bought way back in the late 80's, and the one I bought in the early 90's.

Also, Im thinking that, for those in the USA and Britain, it would be cheaper to import it from Australia, especially for you Brits because the Aussie dollar is at a really bad point right now and isnt worth much, so for $129 Australian Im thinking you'd be in for a good deal even with postage...Just a thought though.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: TomFriend on December 19, 2008, 11:26:51 AM
I'm with you - I don't see the point of shelling out for something just for the sake of saying you have it while it sits on a shelf gathering dust.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: ppbebe on December 19, 2008, 11:41:01 AM
we can have a HTGTH best dresser competition using these goods.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy/ Ultimate + Special + Limited (other versions discussion)
Post by: Dayle1066 on December 25, 2008, 07:37:04 AM
I wasnt sure if merchandise was even available yet, but I was given a CD box set which my mum found in the back of a HMV here in the UK, its got the logo on the front, about vinyl size it includes a t-shirt, belt buckle, key ring, bandana, patch and a copy of CD. Anyone else seen anything like this? ill try n get sum pics up tomorrow if noones heard of this