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Title: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: BurningHills on October 29, 2008, 03:35:16 PM
#15 ACTIVE ROCK
MOST INCREASED PLAYS
MOST ADDED

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/Charts/AR_Chart.asp


#7 ROCK
MOST INCREASED PLAYS
MOST ADDED

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/Charts/Rock_Chart.asp


Congrats to the band!  : ok:


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: willow on October 29, 2008, 05:05:51 PM
Sweet! I am hearing it everyday here on a hard rock station and the classic rock station. The classic rock dj said its not getting as many votes as ACDC but it is generating tons of possitive email.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: mega_music on October 29, 2008, 05:21:35 PM
I have been following the charts everyday since the single release and after the first week of plays, I think Chinese is a success. If the momentum keeps going it will easily go #1. I was not expecting R&R's (Radio and Records) to be so high. Normally most published charts are about a week behind.

Just think of how well Street of Dreams, Better, and Prostitute will rank, hell the whole album has the potential to do very well on the music charts. 


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: cineater on October 29, 2008, 05:29:47 PM
"I feel good

I knew that I would"


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on October 29, 2008, 11:26:46 PM
Aw...I was hoping this would hit the #1 spot the first week with all the momentum it seems to have going for it. Maybe next week?


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: Thorned Rose on October 30, 2008, 12:15:09 AM
I already made a thread for this topic, and if I had made another thread like this person did, I would be shot down in flames.

Anyways.

You were hoping that it would debut at #1 on the rock chart?

That is asking too much, I think it will hit #1 on the rock chart eventually, these things have to build up.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: Thorned Rose on October 30, 2008, 12:21:13 AM
oh yes, and another thing.

Nothing is "official" unless it is on billboard, that is the main charting place for stats.

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but I thought Iwould say that.

I just checked billboard and I see no gn'r in the top 20 on either rock chart.

Next week they should be on there


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: axl2 on October 30, 2008, 12:22:11 AM
oh yes, and another thing.

Nothing is "official" unless it is on billboard, that is the main charting place for stats.

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but I thought Iwould say that.

I just checked billboard and I see no gn'r in the top 20 on either rock chart.

Next week they should be on there

They haven't updated yet.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: Eazy E on October 30, 2008, 12:23:24 AM
oh yes, and another thing.

Nothing is "official" unless it is on billboard, that is the main charting place for stats.

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but I thought Iwould say that.

I just checked billboard and I see no gn'r in the top 20 on either rock chart.

Next week they should be on there

The stats for the week show up tomorrow... hopefully we can spot GN'R with a "Hot Shot Debut" tag or something.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: BurningHills on October 30, 2008, 02:35:38 AM
oh yes, and another thing.

Nothing is "official" unless it is on billboard, that is the main charting place for stats.

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but I thought Iwould say that.

I just checked billboard and I see no gn'r in the top 20 on either rock chart.

Next week they should be on there

Radio and Records tracks airplay and adds. It's what pretty much every radio station in the country uses. That, or Mediabase 24/7.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: The Prez on October 30, 2008, 03:14:07 AM
Maybe some stupid question but is Chinese Democracy already released as an official single?
It has been aired, you can hear it on several sites but I do not think you can buy it anywhere...correct me if I'm wrong...

Anyhow, it's nice to have them back in the charts!

 :peace:


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: erose on October 30, 2008, 06:04:58 AM
Maybe some stupid question but is Chinese Democracy already released as an official single?
It has been aired, you can hear it on several sites but I do not think you can buy it anywhere...correct me if I'm wrong...

Anyhow, it's nice to have them back in the charts!

 :peace:


It's released to the radio stations as an official first single. It is not yet for sale in any form.

There is an actual pressed cd with the single Chinese Democracy on it, but it's a promotional disc without artwork etc.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: hideo on October 30, 2008, 08:27:05 AM
Billboard
Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks
#12

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?f=Hot+Mainstream+Rock+Tracks&pageNumber=Top+11-20&g=Singles


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: faldor on October 30, 2008, 09:03:53 AM
Billboard
Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks
#12

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?f=Hot+Mainstream+Rock+Tracks&pageNumber=Top+11-20&g=Singles
Just for comparison.  Death Magnetic was released on 9/12 and "The Day That Never Comes" to reached #1 on 9/27.  Not sure when the single was released and where it debuted on the chart.

Okay, from wikipedia.

"The Day That Never Comes" was released to the radio and for digital download on Thursday August 21st, 2008 at 11 am PDT.

The song debuted on Billboard's Hot 100 at #31, giving the band their seventh top forty Hot 100 hit. It is also the band's highest charting single on the Hot 100 since 1997's "The Memory Remains", which peaked at #28. With less than four days of airplay, "The Day That Never Comes" debuted at #7 on Billboards Mainstream Rock Chart,


So it did debut 5 spots higher, but it did take a little over a month for it to reach #1.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: Eazy E on October 30, 2008, 09:24:19 AM
I'm not sure that's a fair comparison... I'm pretty sure Billboard takes both airplay AND digital sales into account, which means if Metallica put their song on iTunes, that would push them further up the charts.  This is why, for example, Kanye West can debut at #3 on the Hot 100 because fans are buying the single once it's available.  Chinese position is strictly radio spins!


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: faldor on October 30, 2008, 09:31:14 AM
I'm not sure that's a fair comparison... I'm pretty sure Billboard takes both airplay AND digital sales into account, which means if Metallica put their song on iTunes, that would push them further up the charts.  This is why, for example, Kanye West can debut at #3 on the Hot 100 because fans are buying the single once it's available.  Chinese position is strictly radio spins!
Yeah you're probably right.  I don't know how the charts work exactly, I'm actually surprised CD appeared on the Hot Mainstream Rock Chart.  I figured all the charts on Billboard dealt with "sales" unless there was a specific chart for radio play.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: axl2 on October 30, 2008, 10:09:32 AM
Having a video would help and a little more promotion for it, otherwise it'll fizzle out. But I don't expect that to happen, management will take care of promoting it.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: Thorned Rose on October 30, 2008, 11:50:24 AM
oh yes, and another thing.

Nothing is "official" unless it is on billboard, that is the main charting place for stats.

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but I thought Iwould say that.

I just checked billboard and I see no gn'r in the top 20 on either rock chart.

Next week they should be on there

The stats for the week show up tomorrow... hopefully we can spot GN'R with a "Hot Shot Debut" tag or something.

Yea, hopefully they'll update it as scheduled and you'll be right about them being on there...


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: Thorned Rose on October 30, 2008, 11:56:49 AM
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?f=Hot+Mainstream+Rock+Tracks&pageNumber=Top+11-20&g=Singles

as already posted above... yes it's #12 on the main rock chart, and #14 on the modern rock chart.

same charts basically, except the mainstream is what is more known I guess?

Not a bad debut, usually the top 3 songs or so hit the top 100 overall... I think Gn'R can do it. Impressive debut

also the gnr name doesn't link anywhere on the charts, every other band does. it is kinda like they expected them not to get a single charted

either that, or the gnr page that they have now has original members pictured... one of the two


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: grog mug on October 30, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
I can't wait to see what "Better" is going to do on the charts.....I guarantee it will be #1 for a while.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: mega_music on October 30, 2008, 02:05:15 PM
From allaccess.com Media Base 24/7
Rolling Chart (based on daily spins) for the week of Oct 23 - Oct 29  Last updated on: Oct 30, 2008 @ 4:06 AM (PT)

Active Rock
12         GUNS N' ROSES     Chinese Democracy

Mainstream Rock
5         GUNS N' ROSES     Chinese Democracy

That is impressive, not very many songs rank that well so early.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: Bitch Slap Rappin on October 30, 2008, 02:31:10 PM
That's my gang!!!!! And the cd hasn't been released yet!!!!

I see Metallica ranked at number 1.
And Ac-Dc ranked at I think 3.

Hats off to all three.........it's time to take over this one horse town!!!!!!  :rofl:


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: BurningHills on October 30, 2008, 04:02:53 PM
If it keeps up, it could/should be #1 in a few weeks.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: kollemann on October 30, 2008, 04:04:27 PM
Great. : ok: : ok:


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on October 30, 2008, 05:41:28 PM
I can't wait to see what "Better" is going to do on the charts.....I guarantee it will be #1 for a while.

Agreed.  This album is going to be a monster.  :beer:


Title: Re: OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"
Post by: axl2 on October 30, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Being played on my station with a cool commercial in front of it. Of course Canada doesn't count does it?