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What do you guys think of this idea?

I think that on the next tour they should change it up and do 2 sets with a break in between.

they could start one set with WTTJ and the other with Chinese Democracy!

I think that's a really stupid idea.  No offense.

Explain.

hey i'm just throwing out an idea...

i've seen many 2 set shows and they work pretty well
the break can be about 10 min

what he said

I like the idea.

Now that everybody knows the song "CD".... it has to be a show opener. It's just perfect.

But at the same time, the way they opened the shows the last few years with WTTJ is so fucking awesome.

This way we get both.  :smoking:

not to be negative just realistic

but two sets and that concert ends at fucking 5am.

isn't there a -karma for some one who insults a mod? :P

i think there should be an equal amount of songs that everyone knows as well as a few songs that are new and switch it up at each concert and do a different set of 5 or 6 song combination of the new cd and see what feels right





as well as bring back COMA :headbanger:

I wonder when we'll see a tour schedule? And will Robin be there?

I hope to see more new songs than old this next tour. Even an unexpected cover would be cool rather than do the greatest hits part 7 tour.

I think if the sets are divided thematically, it's a great idea. As long as it isn't just an arbitrary break.

Or possibly a "Chinese Democracy" section in the middle of the big set.

I think maybe now that the album is out and people know the songs, my personal choice would be maybe opening the show with Chinese Democracy, and moving Jungle to opening the encore.

I dunno.

No matter what happens, I just don't think Jungle should be moved from the opening song. It's so fucking perfect how they open each show and it gets people pumped the fuck up... NEW AND OLD Gn'R fans.

Yeah, it's just that two sets starting at midnight is a bad idea in my opinion.  Interesting to think about... In a perfect world YES!

Picture this.

Imagine if they play like these small clubs/theatres for all the diehards like us.

They start with CD and just blaze through the whole album!

And then play a few songs after a little break.

BUT, to answer Chief's question, I think it's a great idea, granted they mix up the songs between new and old in both sets.

Who said each set would be 20 songs?

I think if this album is a smash hit then they should consider Chinese Democracy as the first song of the set.  But only IF this thing takes off...

Stick with the proven strategy of Jungle for the first song.

Not me.

Motley Crue did 2 sets on their 2005 reunion tour....not a bad idea...I wouldnt mind an acoustic set in the middle of the show like they used to do back in 1993

Who said each set should be 20 minutes?

If each set lasted 20 minutes, the show would let out at 1 o'clock.  (By your estimation.)

A midnight start is a bad idea if they play 15-20 songs each set. (not in my world though!)

So yes, that is where I got those numbers.

Your attempts at humor and wit have ended in failure.

I was thinking more like 12-13 songs per set.

It's definitely doable, as we saw during the North American tour, Axl's voice just got stronger and stronger and setlists got longer.

I agree if they did two sets with an intermission maybe they could eliminate some of the guitar solos.  That would be a better pace for the show. 

I've been to shows with breaks like that, and frankly I think they completely ruin the flow.

It's awesome to have 2.5 solid hours of rock, not 1 and a half hours, 15 minutes off, then another hour.

That's a pretty long break!

The one's I have been to have been 5 minutes at most.  Just a little longer than your usual encore break.

I was just guessing to be honest, I just don't see the point.

Didn't Motley Crue do this on the Carnival of Sins tour?     I seem to recall they didn't have any openers and played an hour took a 15 min break and came back and played another hour.  

  I thought it worked out pretty good.

I prefer the almost 3 and a half hour set I saw at Madison Square Garden in the early 1990's.
I think it was 5 encores. There are your breaks.

Word, that shit only works for Roger Waters...

It works for Dream Theater too.

CD should be opener, and WTTJ first encore, that's it :)

You say that as if it would be a bad thing........  :smoking:

I thinks it's fuckin' cool with long guitar solos and drum solos and shit like that. It would also be cool if they did maybe a Tommy or Dizzy song without axl. There's alot of great material for the different members solo work.

How cool would it be if the whole band without axl did Tommys Motivation i.e.! :drool:

i can see both sides to the argument.....but my personal view is to keep 1 set and either use jungle or CD to open the show.
I think jungle is a fucking awesome opener, but i guess things move on and CD would make a kick ass replacement

Waters did it on his last tour, and it worked great!

One half a best of, the other Dark Side of the Moon... What more could you want !! It worked great.

But a 15 minute brak with nothing?.. I didn't think it worked very well...

I don't really care, I'll be a happy bunny if there is a tour with any kind of setlist  :love:

To the bar?

Every time !!

It worked well because Dark Side of the Moon is a thing of itself... It needs to be appreciated with its own beginning and end, it can't just be slotted in after Sheep!, that's insane. It is its own Animal...............

Great idea for some bands. I've seen Rush, Metallica, Motley Crue, The Black Crowes and Pink Floyd all do this.

I'm not sure it would work for GNR, but who knows.

Hear hear brother, i see your point!

But, there is a but.

When i saw that show at Roskilde festival it didn't really work for me. A break could work, but i think there should have been something going on in that break, just something that kind of prevents the crowd from falling asleep. 15 minutes is way too long imo, i think maybe waters even took a longer break like 20 minutes or something...

And to the bar you say? Imagine 70 000 people going to the bare in that break...  :hihi:

Aye, you're probably right... Though in all honesty I can't remember if there was anything during the break when I saw him... 70 000 (well, it was actually 20 000 when I saw him...) or not, I was making sure that I was at the front of that bar queue!
Though anything would have done. The video and music that was played before the first half was great! I assume that you got the same thing, with the radio, and the smoke, and the tuning and the what not.

Also, I should probably say that I wouldn't advocate a break at a Guns N' Roses concert... I was just trying to give Adz an example of when there is a point... And there can be!

But I'm with you on filling it with something. It doesn't have to a complete break from everything.

Yeah but you could just have some female dancers, and not that many would go to the bar, most people don't wanna move for fear of losing their spot...

....but I see your point, if you can't get a drink, don't smoke, you are kind of limited, still always chance for a bit of banter with some random Gunner next to you!  :D

Yeah, and thats why i never mind when Axl is off stage for a while. There's always something else going on that is really cool amd interesting .

In the waters break there were nothing, the stage was completely dark. That was a great gig over all, but like i said, i ended up sitting there without drinks and we didn't move because we had great spots. Luckily there was a fat one taking the round so the second half was awesome when it finally started.  :hihi: