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Title: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Sugartown on October 20, 2008, 01:47:20 PM
I'm betting CD debus at #1


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: jarmo on October 20, 2008, 01:48:22 PM
Just make sure you don't make a bet with D.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Sugartown on October 20, 2008, 01:49:15 PM
Is D the devil ;D


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Thorned Rose on October 20, 2008, 01:50:03 PM
Yeah, D is a betting fool.


I'm making a bet that it will debut #1 for sure

Give Rock music some respect and credibility.

I'm tired of hip hop dominating the charts... makes me sick.

Chinese Democracy - #1

and I bet it stays there 3 weeks straight.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Gritty on October 20, 2008, 01:50:21 PM
Wouldn't surprise me at all, but I'm broke.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: jarmo on October 20, 2008, 01:50:25 PM
Is D the devil ;D

I believe it's called a welch or welsh (http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=welch)...




/jarmo




Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Howard2k on October 20, 2008, 01:51:42 PM
I don't believe it will stay at #1 for more than 1 week.

Even if it debuts there (which I'm not 100% of), it'll drop down reasonably fast I imagine.

But time will tell.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: JuicySwoos on October 20, 2008, 01:53:51 PM
well I will do my part to make it number #1.   


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: BodyCount on October 20, 2008, 02:33:55 PM
It will be #1 in ALL countries that lack releases of REAL music....

So in that aspect i guess it will be #1 worldwide  :hihi:

Seriously, i truly am glad for GNR and specially glad for Axl, just imagine the burden of years and years of anticipation , frustration and dissapointment being lifted from their shoulders...


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: veritas55 on October 20, 2008, 02:37:38 PM
I think it will sell close to 1 million copies the first week -- it will be HUGE that first week because of Best Buy's past success in really moving units that first week (remember the Eagles sold over 700,000 units of a double CD through Wal-Mart, a similar Azoff arrangement).

How much more it sells will depend on reviews, radio, chart success, etc.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: estebanf on October 20, 2008, 02:38:39 PM
I'm betting ''Chinese Democracy'' will be the first single.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Pine Barrens on October 20, 2008, 03:08:47 PM
I am betting that someone over at Dr. Pepper's just got fired for being responsible for a substantial loss of profits.  ;)


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Neemo on October 20, 2008, 03:26:30 PM
a can of pop prolly costs about a quarter to make :hihi:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: vicente on October 20, 2008, 03:44:04 PM
I am betting that someone over at Dr. Pepper's just got fired for being responsible for a substantial loss of profits.  ;)

I bet he got promoted...

:: Vicente ::


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: divoz on October 20, 2008, 04:08:30 PM
I am betting on the next tour when i see them they play Locomotive and ask me to come and sing it with Axl, afterwards offering me a spot as back up singer for the band paying me a lump some that will set me for life.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: GNR4L on October 20, 2008, 04:16:29 PM
Hey D, I will bet ya a free can of Dr.Pepper that Better is the first single.  Anyone else wanna jump in ? im serious.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: erose on October 20, 2008, 05:09:32 PM
Where's the man with a million posts now?  :rofl:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Albert S Miller on October 20, 2008, 05:12:23 PM
Where's the man with a million posts now?  :rofl:
Probably jogging lol!! ;D


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: D on October 20, 2008, 07:16:39 PM
HAHAHA

what the heck did i ever Welsch or whatever the hell that word is on?

Ok, I didn't shave my head when the album didnt come out but have u seen my hair? It would be like a natural disaster or a crime against humanity to shave off these gorgeous locks! :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:



I don't jog, I run............. wanna see my medal to prove it? :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: GunnerOne 84 on October 20, 2008, 07:18:07 PM
I'd make a bet of some sort. I'm certain Kanye West will debut at number 1 that week. Although this is one bet I'd hope to lose.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: w.axl.rose on October 20, 2008, 07:20:12 PM

Ok, I didn't shave my head when the album didnt come out but have u seen my hair? I


or delete your account like you said you would if were to chuck liddell were to lose the match which he did  :hihi:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on October 20, 2008, 07:56:10 PM
Something tells me Axl will push for CD as the first single...personally, I'd be lobbying for Better.  But then again, we haven't heard the final tracks.  (nor do I want to with the album so close at hand)  It's GNR, who the hell knows what's gonna happen!  8)

btw, isn't "Welsh" when used in that manner a pejorative term?  Aren't there any folks from Wales here??   ;D


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: D on October 20, 2008, 08:30:11 PM
I didn't make a bet on "chuck Liddell" though

I did bet someone that I'd shave my head, but fuck that, seriously. I had a friend shave his head once and the shit never grew back.


The Chuck Liddell thing was Hyperbole, just showing what a monumental upset it would be for him to lose.

Deleting my account is as monumental of a statement I could make to show the unlikeliness.

I didn't bet with another poster and say, Ok if Chuck wins u delete yours, if Rashad wins I'll delete mine.

That is a bet. I just made an overexaggerated statement. big difference!


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on October 20, 2008, 08:37:04 PM
I didn't make a bet on "chuck Liddell" though

I did bet someone that I'd shave my head, but fuck that, seriously. I had a friend shave his head once and the shit never grew back.


The Chuck Liddell thing was Hyperbole, just showing what a monumental upset it would be for him to lose.

Deleting my account is as monumental of a statement I could make to show the unlikeliness.

I didn't bet with another poster and say, Ok if Chuck wins u delete yours, if Rashad wins I'll delete mine.

That is a bet. I just made an overexaggerated statement. big difference!
I bet shaving your head completely would be preferable to Finck's 'whatever' (obviously doesn't affect his guitar skills)...I have shaved completely several times, always grows back, don't get cute and try to NAIR it though...oh, and people look f'n wierd without eyebrows.   :hihi:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on October 20, 2008, 09:45:07 PM
Yeah, D is a betting fool.


I'm making a bet that it will debut #1 for sure

Give Rock music some respect and credibility.

I'm tired of hip hop dominating the charts... makes me sick.

Chinese Democracy - #1

and I bet it stays there 3 weeks straight.

i can't agree more

CHINESE DEMOCRACY #1 :headbanger:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Thorned Rose on October 20, 2008, 10:15:55 PM
Well thanks.

I'm glad someone agrees with me.

C.D. is going to gobble the charts!


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: PJ on October 20, 2008, 10:20:43 PM
CD will stay maximum one week in number 1
because even if we hate her.. britney is realasing her CD next week.. and it is her BIG comeback.. she has a HUGE fanbase and is already being promoted and raping the lists in the radio  :crying:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Eazy E on October 20, 2008, 11:47:09 PM
I'd make a bet of some sort. I'm certain Kanye West will debut at number 1 that week. Although this is one bet I'd hope to lose.

When Kanye & 50 Cent had their "1st week sales" battle last year:

Graduation's first week sales of 957,000 and Curtis' first week sales of 691,000 meant that the competition resulted in only the second time ever (since Nielsen SoundScan began collecting data in 1991) that two albums sold more than 600,000 in a week in the United States. The first occurrence of such an event was in 1991, when Guns N' Roses released Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II, selling 685,000 and 770,000 copies, respectively.


So... in order to debut at #1... GN'R would not only have to beat Kanye's first week, but most likely beat the first week totals of UYI 1 & 2.  Personally, I think the people calling for a million in the first week are out of their minds!  It should be fun to watch.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: GunnerOne 84 on October 20, 2008, 11:56:06 PM
I'd make a bet of some sort. I'm certain Kanye West will debut at number 1 that week. Although this is one bet I'd hope to lose.

When Kanye & 50 Cent had their "1st week sales" battle last year:

Graduation's first week sales of 957,000 and Curtis' first week sales of 691,000 meant that the competition resulted in only the second time ever (since Nielsen SoundScan began collecting data in 1991) that two albums sold more than 600,000 in a week in the United States. The first occurrence of such an event was in 1991, when Guns N' Roses released Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II, selling 685,000 and 770,000 copies, respectively.


So... in order to debut at #1... GN'R would not only have to beat Kanye's first week, but most likely beat the first week totals of UYI 1 & 2.  Personally, I think the people calling for a million in the first week are out of their minds!  It should be fun to watch.

To be fair, Kanye and 50 Cent split the same demographic. Axl and Kanye will not have that problem. That being said, neither is going to sell 1 million first week, and I still say Kanye sells more.

Chinese Democracy will be no flop though. I'd bet that over the long haul CD does very well. I'd love to be wrong here, that's just how I see it.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: The Dog on October 21, 2008, 01:21:30 AM
I'll chop off my balls if CD doesn't debut at #1


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: tat2d1 on October 21, 2008, 01:56:24 AM
it'll debut at #1. Where it goes from there is anyone's guess.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Sober_times on October 21, 2008, 01:57:27 AM
it'll debut at #1. Where it goes from there is anyone's guess.

Its going to be tough for it too debut number 1 but i think it will as well. And your right, who knows where it will go from there. Its definetly going to be interesting.  :smoking:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: tat2d1 on October 21, 2008, 01:59:04 AM
What else comes out the week of 11-25? If CD comes out on 11-23 it gets a 2 day jumpstart on the rest.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: GunnerOne 84 on October 21, 2008, 02:12:50 AM
I believe Kanye West, The Killers, Chris Cornell, and Scott Weiland have releases that day.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: tat2d1 on October 21, 2008, 02:18:10 AM
The only one of those I see giving GnR any real competition is Kayne. Even then, worst case scenario, CD debuts at #2. Again though, if it's released on the 23rd, then those extra 2 days may be enough to land it at #1.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: jazjme on October 21, 2008, 03:22:18 AM
I think Kenye will be buying CD!


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Lord Kayoss on October 21, 2008, 04:21:55 AM
I can definitely see a #1 debut.  But with such a mid-tempo tracklist and not enough head-banging rocker tunes I believe it will quickly run out of steam.  Of course us Axl cultists are gonna eat the album up and preach it's musical brilliance, but aside from a few tracks we haven't heard yet there's not gonna be enough there to keep the casual fan entertained.

Most people who aren't crazy about sappy ballads will tolerate them as long as there's plenty of hard rockers kicking their asses in between, like UYI.  Seems like CD is top-heavy in the sap department.  Very slow-tempo, melodic tunes and not enough hard rocking punch.

But, we'll see.

I'm just happy CITR is gonna be on there.  Personally, I would've been very disappointed with CD if it hadn't made the cut.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Splash on October 21, 2008, 05:52:32 PM
I didn't make a bet on "chuck Liddell" though

I did bet someone that I'd shave my head, but fuck that, seriously. I had a friend shave his head once and the shit never grew back.


The Chuck Liddell thing was Hyperbole, just showing what a monumental upset it would be for him to lose.

Deleting my account is as monumental of a statement I could make to show the unlikeliness.

I didn't bet with another poster and say, Ok if Chuck wins u delete yours, if Rashad wins I'll delete mine.

That is a bet. I just made an overexaggerated statement. big difference!

at the start of the year i bet i'd shave my head if CD came out in 2008.. starting to regret that now.. this hair took ages to grow :(


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on October 21, 2008, 06:01:32 PM
I didn't make a bet on "chuck Liddell" though

I did bet someone that I'd shave my head, but fuck that, seriously. I had a friend shave his head once and the shit never grew back.


The Chuck Liddell thing was Hyperbole, just showing what a monumental upset it would be for him to lose.

Deleting my account is as monumental of a statement I could make to show the unlikeliness.

I didn't bet with another poster and say, Ok if Chuck wins u delete yours, if Rashad wins I'll delete mine.

That is a bet. I just made an overexaggerated statement. big difference!

at the start of the year i bet i'd shave my head if CD came out in 2008.. starting to regret that now.. this hair took ages to grow :(
Legally speaking, did you specify which head?  Hate to play the technicalities, but sometimes that all you've got... :rofl:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Splash on October 21, 2008, 06:07:15 PM
LOL! No i didn't :P But i'm pretty sure which head i'd rather take a razor to...


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Ignatius on October 21, 2008, 06:10:42 PM

Regardless having tough competition there, Guns will debut at #1. There isn't any other way.

This is probably the biggest album - prior to its release - ever in the history of music. There's just too much hype around CD. I can't really tell how many copies will sell, but if I have to make a guess, it'll probably be around 600,000 - 700,000 first week sales.

Music industry has changed and although there are some artist who still can pull up big numbers just like Guns or Pearl Jam with Vs in 93, a huge album today sales 2 million copies where 15 years ago we would be talking 8 million. Having said that, I still believe GUNS will outsell Kayne and everyone else.



Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Splash on October 21, 2008, 06:13:04 PM
I think it'll debut at #1 here in the UK.. and for the love of God, i really hope it knocks the travesty to music that is hip hop from its spot as the main music genre on the radio


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: michaelvincent on October 21, 2008, 08:37:51 PM

Regardless having tough competition there, Guns will debut at #1. There isn't any other way.

This is probably the biggest album - prior to its release - ever in the history of music. There's just too much hype around CD. I can't really tell how many copies will sell, but if I have to make a guess, it'll probably be around 600,000 - 700,000 first week sales.

Music industry has changed and although there are some artist who still can pull up big numbers just like Guns or Pearl Jam with Vs in 93, a huge album today sales 2 million copies where 15 years ago we would be talking 8 million. Having said that, I still believe GUNS will outsell Kayne and everyone else.



I dunno man, I think you are grossly overestimating the taste level of the overall record buying public. Topping Kanye is going to be a tough one. But who knows...with enough money behind it CD might surprise a lot of people.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Eazy E on October 21, 2008, 10:18:38 PM
You know, I wouldn't really care that much if they debuted at #1 in a dead week... but if GN'R has enough momentum for their first week to be a "sales battle" for number 1 with Kanye?  You can't really ask for anything better... 

Obviously it's not the same as last year with 50 cent because they were both in the same genre, but there was a lot of promotion / press surrounding the albums as a result.  That would only help Chinese Democracy.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on October 21, 2008, 10:25:37 PM
Something tells me Axl will push for CD as the first single...personally, I'd be lobbying for Better.  But then again, we haven't heard the final tracks.  (nor do I want to with the album so close at hand)  It's GNR, who the hell knows what's gonna happen!  8)

btw, isn't "Welsh" when used in that manner a pejorative term?  Aren't there any folks from Wales here??   ;D

Boy, that Axl4Prez is a freaking Nostradamus!   :hihi:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on October 22, 2008, 03:58:26 PM
I bet we will have at least 2 more singles prior to 11/23, and a steady stream of 'gifts' (new info/merch/song/vid) every 2-3 days, like a video for CD on 'new' homepage...etc.  Azoff and Gould are going to hold Chinese Democracy under EVERYONES noses until 11/23 whether they like it or not!

I also bet most of us will completely wear off the paint on our F5 keys before 11/23...(pretty safe - hedge bet).   : ok:


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: deep pocketz on October 23, 2008, 10:40:32 PM
I am betting that someone over at Dr. Pepper's just got fired for being responsible for a substantial loss of profits.  ;)

It's all about publicity - good or bad. He was promoted.


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: Nightrain 87 on October 24, 2008, 12:12:09 AM
It'll be tough but I think it'll debut at #1


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: erose on October 24, 2008, 07:30:41 AM
AC/DC sold 800 000 the first week so thats the number that has to be beat. The sold 200 something the first day...

Can it be done?

I believe.

Plus this is the best year ever. I now know what to buy everyone i know for christmas. WHAT A FUCKIN' RELIEFE!!!! And it's not even december 23 yet, which is the day i usually shop christmas presents and that is if the stores are closed on the 24th...


Title: Re: Who wants to make a bet?
Post by: bodine on October 24, 2008, 09:37:02 AM
btw, isn't "Welsh" when used in that manner a pejorative term?  Aren't there any folks from Wales here??   ;D

yeah, according to dictionary.com you may be right  :hihi: :

welch 

1857, racing slang, "to refuse or avoid payment of money laid as a bet," probably a disparaging use of the national name Welsh.