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Title: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: D on September 26, 2008, 04:12:38 PM
The album of course is what we all want, but I have been waiting over a decade just to really hear Axl speak and as Del James said, "Set a lot of shit straight"

I am thinking of the enormous Rolling Stone issue or whatever magazine he gives the first one to *I wish he'd do an interview DVD and include it with CD" that would be awesome. But anyway, Getting to hear what he's been doing, how he feels about events that have happened. His side of the split, What he thinks of the music industry today.

So many awesome things I can't wait to get Axl's perspective on and to just really find out all the little behind the scenes details etc.



Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: GNR4L on September 26, 2008, 04:17:12 PM
All I can say is when Axl does speak it will be the TRUTH ! no more listening to old band members reliving their past and not being able to put it behind them.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: slash666 on September 26, 2008, 05:03:43 PM
All I can say is when Axl does speak it will be the TRUTH ! no more listening to old band members reliving their past and not being able to put it behind them.

You say that but how do you know it is infact the truth? Some issues will be true & some will possibly be false. An interview is one persons conceptions of events not a solid fact


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: whiny on September 26, 2008, 05:26:42 PM
All I can say is when Axl does speak it will be the TRUTH ! no more listening to old band members reliving their past and not being able to put it behind them.

You say that but how do you know it is infact the truth? Some issues will be true & some will possibly be false. An interview is one persons conceptions of events not a solid fact

it wont' be the truth, just HIS perspective on things. but it's the one i'm most looking forward to. hope he shares something soon.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Olorin on September 26, 2008, 06:21:11 PM
I remember Roger Waters talking about the fact that  it is only human nature, that over the course of passing years, one's personal recollections are unconsciously skewed by internal emotions and feelings. This is how one persons memories of distant shared experiences are often different to anothers, and each of them will remember their own personal role in it differently to how the other person saw it.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Jim on September 26, 2008, 06:25:39 PM
Aye... And that's why Gilmour has got such a problem.

Boom boom!


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Olorin on September 26, 2008, 06:42:38 PM
Exactly, but Water's has equally got a problem with Gilmour.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Jim on September 26, 2008, 06:50:29 PM
Oh, no doubt. I was joking. Although...

... Waters was really keen on a reunion, very much so, and it was Gilmour that was the problem. He wasn't interested at all. Sadly now, it doesn't matter.

A tip though. Were Waters truly as keen as he had been saying of late, it probably wasn't best advised to mention in the program for his last tour that he thought that his live band played Dark Side of the Moon better than his fellow Pink Floyd members did !!

... Wait. Hang on. Chinese Democracy is coming out this year !! I'll put the Floyd thoughts on hold.

I forgot that we actually have something relevant and interesting to talk about with regard to the Roses now. My bad!


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Olorin on September 26, 2008, 06:59:04 PM
lol, yeah old habits die hard, and hopefully we have heard the last of Axl's bloody shoes till at least the next tour :beer:


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on September 26, 2008, 07:28:08 PM
The first Axl interview.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: willow on September 26, 2008, 07:30:51 PM
I have to admit having already heard a lot of the cd. The Axl interview. Bring it on Axl. We all are patiently waiting to hear what you have to say!
This has been such a long time coming. I am so glad that Axl and company will finally get rewarded for all thier hard work!


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Wheres Izzy on September 26, 2008, 07:54:21 PM
I'd rather have CD by a long shot. As much as I would like to hear Axl's perspective on a lot of stuff that went down, overall the music is what matters. Plus you have to factor in whoever the interviewer is and all the stupid questions they'll probably go through before any good ones.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Lord Kayoss on September 27, 2008, 04:23:40 PM
I've always been intrigued by the thought of Axl doing a big interview.  Wouldn't be surprised to see it when the album drops.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Silverchair on September 27, 2008, 04:36:59 PM
I wouldn't do an interview... I would just do a statement or a book if I was Axl.

I know what questions a stupid-ass reporter is going to ask.

1) Why did CD take so long?
2) Why did GN'R split up?
3) Are there chances of a reunion?
4) Do you talk to Slash?
5) So... GN'R are getting back together?
6) What have you been upto the last 15 years?

I wouldn't want to sit there and listen to some ignorant reporter.

The only person I see interviewing Axl is Kurt Loder. Axl apperantly likes him.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Allman on September 27, 2008, 05:28:29 PM
It'll be interesting to hear (for me that is) why Merck couldn't get it done and Azoff/Gould could possibly get it done this year. They already achieved more than any previous management with Shacklers and If The World.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: horsey on September 28, 2008, 11:33:38 AM
it would be an interesting interview really.i think that would be great if it happens. :beer:here's to hopin.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: bazgnr on September 28, 2008, 11:59:15 AM
It'll be interesting to hear (for me that is) why Merck couldn't get it done and Azoff/Gould could possibly get it done this year. They already achieved more than any previous management with Shacklers and If The World.

It's total speculation on my part, but I'm sure timing has quite a bit to do with as well, not diminishing *anything* that Azoff / Gould have accomplished in their time working with the band.  Given the large cast that has contributed to CD in one form or another, the legal logistics in terms of compensation and credit must be staggering, to say the least...


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Allman on September 28, 2008, 12:03:20 PM
It'll be interesting to hear (for me that is) why Merck couldn't get it done and Azoff/Gould could possibly get it done this year. They already achieved more than any previous management with Shacklers and If The World.

It's total speculation on my part, but I'm sure timing has quite a bit to do with as well, not diminishing *anything* that Azoff / Gould have accomplished in their time working with the band.  Given the large cast that has contributed to CD in one form or another, the legal logistics in terms of compensation and credit must be staggering, to say the least...

Agree.
However Azoff is the expert when it comes to the exclusive thing, somehow i cannot see that Merck would come close in such a deal.
Of course we're never gonna know.
Just release the damn thing!  ;D


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Butch Français on September 29, 2008, 05:52:50 PM
the first Axl interview might stall for as long as CD stalled (or forever)...who knows.
I'd love to hear it more than anything, but I have absolutely no hopes about this.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Johnnyblood on September 29, 2008, 09:13:46 PM
He did do a very long radio interview with Eddie Trunk (when Bas called him in). I listened to that whole thing and don't recall much insight coming from it. When there were tough questions, Axl usually dodged them. What would shock me is if Axl actually admitted some wrongdoing (in the GNR breakup as well as the many CD delays). That'd be a signal he's ready to play ball.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: slashsbaconpit on September 29, 2008, 09:21:13 PM
I'm more excited for CD, but interviews with Axl are always a treat. He's very engaging and intelligent, not at all what the "press" portrays him as.




Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: jarmo on September 30, 2008, 09:51:57 AM
What would shock me is if Axl actually admitted some wrongdoing (in the GNR breakup as well as the many CD delays).

Of course it would shock you because it seems to be what you want him to do.  ::)

It easy to look back on things and say "that was a mistake". Instead of dwelling on it, move forward and learn from those experiences.





/jarmo


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: wells on September 30, 2008, 12:14:12 PM
@Johnnyblood

Quote
One of these days, Axl is going to set straight a lot of the misconceptions about himself and the history of Guns N? Roses and people ain?t gonna know what hit ?em.
by Del James for Fatally Yours (c) 2008.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Limulus on September 30, 2008, 02:15:56 PM
nevertheless a longer statement from axl about the breakup of one of the biggest rock bands ever in the early 90s is for sure interesting for a lot of people and i think for rock history in general for the simple reason that the only founding member still runs the band "GN'R" but choosed not to talk himself about deeply until now (9/2008).
but as we know the fans have been told some promises/plans from the gnr camp over the years which....well, lets say we better dont take del's words as any form of promise in form of any kind of statement anytime soon regarding ths issue.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: wells on September 30, 2008, 03:33:37 PM
does it say a promise anywhere? one day Axl will say what he will want to say and I will be cool with it. I am looking forward to new music, shows, videos etc. past have been left in past for me for long time now and I don't regeret of anything. it was cool than it is even cooler now.

why would Axl have to admit anything. it is pretty obvious who is telling what and who is looking for more fame with lies and false statements because their band is not doing so well   : ok:


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Limulus on September 30, 2008, 06:11:24 PM
if ^^that promise-thing was was directed at my reply above: no, Del doesnt directly say "promise", neither did i say he did. we just shouldnt "take it as promise" as we got some kinda bad experiences with that stuff.

anyway these words from a very, very close friend (del) from axl "One of these days, Axl is going to set straight...." sound like there "could" be some longer outcome/info at a point, huh?
and again: the rock history world would love to let axl "set the record straight" and hear him tell us HIS version  ;)


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: Johnnyblood on September 30, 2008, 09:03:14 PM
What would shock me is if Axl actually admitted some wrongdoing (in the GNR breakup as well as the many CD delays).

Of course it would shock you because it seems to be what you want him to do.  ::)

It easy to look back on things and say "that was a mistake". Instead of dwelling on it, move forward and learn from those experiences.
/jarmo

You can't move forward if you don't confront your weaknesses. This is as true of Axl as it is of me or you. And this whole saga, beginning with the post-UYI years, followed by years of silence, then the breakup, and all the rest, it's not just "Oh, we had some rough spots." It has been selfish, cynical, and disrespectful.

Also, sorry but if I wanted an evenhanded take on what happened, Del James is the last person I'd talk to. I'd talk to my 80 year old neighbor and get more straight talk.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on September 30, 2008, 09:07:49 PM
The 'breakup' is old news, the stories that are out there have been retold 100 times (albeit never through Axl's eyes) - I want to hear the 'chinese democracy' story...a 'making of' walk through, with the mastermind himself.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: ben9785 on September 30, 2008, 09:34:27 PM
Just like what IKnowWhereIAM said..
I don't care about breakup stories or personal gossip rubbish like this.
I would love to see an interview, or a documentary of some sort chronicling the journey from 94/95 until now, obviously focusing on the album, how the new band members got together, what happened after the canceled 2002 tour up to the Hammerstein shows etc.
And this time obviously, better if Axl features in it rather than a bunch of bitter former managers, band members etc


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: cyllan on October 01, 2008, 06:33:57 AM
Just like what IKnowWhereIAM said..
I don't care about breakup stories or personal gossip rubbish like this.
I would love to see an interview, or a documentary of some sort chronicling the journey from 94/95 until now, obviously focusing on the album, how the new band members got together, what happened after the canceled 2002 tour up to the Hammerstein shows etc.
And this time obviously, better if Axl features in it rather than a bunch of bitter former managers, band members etc

I agree, in my opinion the evolution of GNR, the creation of Chinese Democracy, and the plans for the future are of greater relevance at this time than raking over past relationships.

Later on, if there comes a point where Axl feels he wants to speak about more personal issues, as he did in the Kim Neely RS article in the 90s, then of course I'd be interested in reading about his experiences.  But that's very much down to him and definitely not something that I would expect him to focus on now.

He did do a very long radio interview with Eddie Trunk (when Bas called him in). I listened to that whole thing and don't recall much insight coming from it. When there were tough questions, Axl usually dodged them. What would shock me is if Axl actually admitted some wrongdoing (in the GNR breakup as well as the many CD delays). That'd be a signal he's ready to play ball.


Johnnyblood - You said that you thought Axl avoided answering the tough questions during the Trunk interview.  Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but did you consider why that might be so?  For example, wrong time, place, medium and even interviewer, all spring immediately to mind.  Yet again, I'm afraid to say, I feel that this appears to me to be a case of a fan wanting to dictate Axl's schedule (for want of a better word) for him.

Also, I don't know why you'd be shocked to hear Axl admit his shortcomings; it's not exactly unusual for him to to acknowledge that he's not perfect.  In my opinion, based on interviews and comments he's made on stage, not only does he possess a strong sense of self-awareness, but is also honest enough to concede that he has issues that he still struggles with.  To my mind, it's this candour that contributes to much of the public misconception about him, and if he dealt as glibly with the media as some other artists, he'd probably have a far easier time of it.  Although personally I'm glad that he's got the courage of his convictions not to play the publicity game, because even if this does mean that, as a fan, it hurts to read or listen to all the rubbish that is talked about him, it also allows me far greater access and insight into the motivation that drives him to create the music that is so much a part of my life.

As for your last comment about him being ready to play ball - again I'd say, play ball in what way and on whose terms?  Yours?  Former band members...?  I don't think so!

Anyway, in the case of GNR, I believe you'll find that it's Axl's ball and if he wants to pick it up and take it home with him, then it's game over for everyone else.   ;)




Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: russkwtx on October 01, 2008, 01:29:38 PM
Axl has had thousands of opportunities during the past 8 years to set the record straight. I don't think he is that interested. So I am more excited about the album.


Title: Re: I don't know what excites me more, CD or the first exclusive Axl interview
Post by: daviebuckethead on October 01, 2008, 04:06:18 PM
i care about what axl has to say about the old line up, just as i am interested on his thoughts on the new line up. Same goes, for slash, izzy, duff, steven, dizzy, tommy, richard, ron, robin, blah blah....

i'm just interested in the opinions on those who have been involved with GnR, the break up, the album, the delays.....everything.

Something i'd really like to hear is the new line up's opinion of the old line up and, how they think the styles compare, and their feeling s on taking over such a illustrious legacy.