Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This comes from another forum, but I was wondering if Jarmo/Del/Fernando/Beta would care to comment on it...

Today at the Best Buy media holiday kickoff event in Dallas Tx, it was apparently announced that the Best Buy exclusive release was official! The deal was done within the last 48 hrs. GNR management was on hand,(azoff or gould, apparently an english man) they played the group three songs, chinese democracy and two others.I wasn't there, so I couldn't confirm which songs. But management stated one song would play for the credit roll in the new dicaprio flick Body of Lies. The album will be released on NOV 25.only at Best Buy.

Please....someone connected to the band either shoot it down, or...preferably...confirm it...Thanks...

Sounds legit but you never know !!!

heres for hoping!!

By the way...Jarmo...can you PLEASE leave this up for a little while until we get some kind of comment? I don't think its asking too much...

This thread has been on here for 30 seconds, so its possible its true :hihi:

Hope its true! Could be true....as of all the rumours stated nov 25! Still sceptical, because of no source, but if true , than it wont take long to hear official news from the front!

I'm skeptical.

http://www.chinesedemocracy.com/forum/guns_n_roses_news/edit_bp_no_best_buy_deal_yet_body_of_lies_true-t37947.150.html

Very Intresting,    The Wheels are in motion and moving along well...     Good News!!!

This must mean the deal is ALMOST done and will be announced any day now... :o :o

Could it be a new song?  Or just a studio version of Madagascar, The Blues, or another track?  Can't wait to see the movie now!

what's "body of lies" ?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0758774/

http://bodyoflies.warnerbros.com/index.html



/jarmo

You think the Song will be IRS ?

So the movie has a release date of October 10th...interesting.

Expect a lot to come



JB

it's confirmed that the deal hasnt yet been made.

so there's a real deal with the film and not yet with best buy.

Whats "IT"?  Everything happened BUT the Best Buy deal.  I think it happened, but they just don't want it out to the public yet.  JARMO, do you think its a NEW song on the soundtrack?

Relax, maybe tomorrow Mysteron will speak up  and then we'll have the answer.

Dont listen to leakers, just wait and see, and Democracy will come to thee


J.B

I hate to keep running at the football but I have my hopes up. Again.

SAWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!  Looks like a cool movie too..

I know you're no askin me but judgin from the linked cd thred, it's a new song.

My suspicions:

1) If the World for the film

2) A deal has already been signed but being kept under wraps, for now....

Take care people, im off to chill by the pool.


J.B

If true - damn good news.

I say 1. IRS   2. I agree the same.

I think were all in for a big treat very very soon.

Mysteron said cool things would start to happen..

He was Right!!!!! :peace:

Yeah...after all these years, this whole mystery will be cleared up tomorrow by Mysteron   ::)

I?d say ... Better or a new fucking rocker song
If finally there is a new song in this film ... i hope it will be first single and we?ll have a fucking RELEASE DATE for the album

found a link to soundtrack but i doubt it means anything
http://www.hans-zimmer.com/fr/disco_detail.php?id=802

That's the score of the film, there will be another soundtrack with songs.

well ... how can we get an official confirmation .. or at least ... til when we have to wait to know if all this is true?

If true  I expect the retailer to break the news. GNR has been modest.
when does best buy usually start their Xmas campaign?

Wasn?t MSL the one who first said that Nov 25 release date? Why do people believe it? It?s like these people take all the info from the forums. ::)

Its an obvious date, not because MSL stated it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCd_RTSaj48&NR=1

looks like a good film

is that uncle axl at about 2.21   :o

So, assuming Best Buy does get the deal, what does that mean for me,who does not have a Best Buy in town?

After all these years am I SOL?

I just checked some financial bulletin boards and some people have heard that Guns has exclusive rights with Best Buy.  Keep in mind these places are typically rumor mills...

-Larry

You could always order it for delivery from their website.

No, Russell Crowe. 

IF AND WHEN Guns N' Roses have a deal in place with Best Buy here is the scenario's for the release.

North America: Best Buy Exclusively

Rest of the world: local retailer.

no listen to the music in the background. it sounds like axl. then jus as the clip nearly finishes it sounds like axl says arghhh.

i could be wrong........but i could be right

Actually it could be:

United States: Best Buy Exclusively

Rest of the world: local retailer.



That's the deal with AC/DC's Black Ice.   

No way, not guns.

I assume the exclusive would be temporary, like that of Rockband2 for xbox, and probably for a much shorter period.
to help the retailer to get off to a good start of holiday shopping season.
And black friday is an America thing. wouldn't affect other parts of the world.
That's if the deal is real.

I'm sure it would only be temporary although I can't see being the sole reason for profits during the holidays...

Damn you know how many units they could move for christmas !!! everyone wants this CD !!! and everyone will buy the CD.  Wonder if we get a Music Video in Oct ?

so i got a very naive and yet basic question: does a best buy deal mean you can't buy cd over i tunes?

if you have waited all these years for the fucking record then at least buy a HARD copy!!!!!!

hey, i will. i'm just interested, coz lots of people buy music over i tunes. i just want to know the "setting". its very old school to just offer the actual hard copy...

Yeah I would assume so - but I would also assume that any exclusive might be a limited time deal.  Perhaps 2-4 weeks.

It could also be that Chi Dem gets a general release, but Best Buy gets Chi Dem + Bonus Tracks.  A Chi Dem special edition.

You could always load it to your I Tunes.

I say at least until after the second week in January.  The reason is obviously for christmas but the week after christmas is also a big return that crappy gift week.

-Larry

thanx guys...

According to MyGNR, Del has just confirmed this all to be true via his MySpace.  Hope an announcement follows soon!

I can back that up too   :)

He's confirmed it twice now lol!

SWEEEETTT!!!

Christmas may be coming early this year!

Exclusive means EXCLUSIVE

Best Buy will be the only retail outlet to sell Chinese Democracy in the United States.

This isn't temporary, they will sell it forever.

Now, international, of course it will be a standard deal but in the US, if u don't have a Best Buy, u will have to order it online.

From what I understand, and I could be slightly wrong, but I think the retailer pays like a SET price. They agree to buy X amount of CD and whether they sell 5 million or 500,000, GNR/Universal get a flat fee.

so Best Buy may have to pay something like 20-25 million for CD

what this does is it gives Universal a HUGE profit with no downside

Of course Best Buy will have to sell 2.5 million copies to break even but what it does is, it gets people inside Best Buy that may normally not shop at Best buy. And while they are in Best Buy, they will impulse shop and take advantage of other awesome deals on various other items that Best Buy sell.

Its a win win all the way around and the people who win the biggest are the FANS!!!!!!!!!!!


What a great day to be a GNR fan!

Now lets get to the discussion, the real discussion at hand

what song is gonna be in the Body Of Lies movie?

Shackler's? or something we have never heard before? certainly it will be something else to double promote.

This was confirmed yesterday when Jarmo let this thread live.

That's ALL speculation on your part right?   

hahaha....very true

well almost. it was really confirmed when he posted in here, giving a link to the movie...  ;)

Im hoping for Better since it's the song I want to be the first single and in the movie.  I will be fine with whatever it is cause IM READY FOR SOME FREE DR PEPPER  :beer: Some new Guns N' Roses Tunes !!!

i just came ;D  :hihi:

Better would be good, think it'll be IRS though personally.

is it ok if I ask for a link to read that Del James myspace?

That's my most logical guess not personal  :hihi:  I wonder if GnR has all there promo stuff done like pics, Ad's, video's, ect. ??

better would be awsome. don't know if it fits the movie. no irs. maybe another big gun? atlas, prostitute. well i think that won't happen. maybe sorry...  can't wait to get an update on that. or "when all is said and done" to the end credits.. wow, don't dare to think of that!

This is like a Private Eye, Spy kind of movie, so IRS or Shackler's seem to fit.

Better definitely doesn't fit.

I am Hoping its something we've never heard.


Chinese Democracy would probably fit this movie.

i heard november 28 is the release date (black friday). tuesday of that week would be even better, but after reading this thread i think a new album will happen this year.

let's hope

It's private anyway, only his friends can see it. Thought it looks like the same one as in GN'R's top. (Judging by the display picture)

I havent seen this reply/confirmation

Does Del only confirm that there is a song at the end of the movie, or does he also confirm whats happening with best buy? I'm confused.

Apparently he confirmed that there's a GN'R song in the movie Body Of Lies.



/jarmo

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deljamesfh9.png

Thanks. Hope it's a new one!

I sure hope this isn't going to be an end of days letdown.  I'm really excited to see things might be rolling along.  We've been the most patient fans - I need CD!!!!

Ed Hoffman: Our world as we know it is much simpler...to put to an end than you might think.

Quote from Russell Crowe's character....

I'll be amazed if the track isn't 'If the World'

And I'll be fuckin well pleased because the track rocks (sorry J man)

Wow If The World would be a good choice ! can't wait to go see this film.

this will be just speculations, but NIN has canceled shows from october 8th til october 18th..

Not saying this has anything to do with what might happen in the Guns world. But maybe?

I personally hope it will be Madagascar. Not sure if the plot has anything to do with the lyrics or whatever. It just seems like a good song to end a movie on!

Wonder if they will annouce the song on their website like they did with Shacklers ?

im pumped for this cant wait to hear the song

Hopefully there will be more the best buy gets a cd+bouns track(s)\disk, and the normal stores just get the default CD.
the other version would kinda suck for the people who dont have best buy.

on the other hand... it could be that Best buy gets the right to distribute the CD.
so lets say best buy buys 5 million CDs... the could put 4 millions on their shelves... but they sell the other 1 million to the small local stores.

Possible Best Buy deal sealed..

Another new GNR song coming up in a movie..

You can't doubt.. the days are getting better

My thoughts as well. 

Dont forget that the Body of Lies story was literally linked with the Best Buy deal being sealed story.  Del only confirmed the movie aspect, and was not asked about the Best Buy deal.  Something tells me that's being prepped for a major announcement.   The next few weeks should prove to be very interesting.

I'm starting to get quite optimistic.  Perhaps I was wrong in thinking that 2008 was impossible for CD.  Time, as always, will tell!

many people are saying if the world is the song that will be in it, if it is hope its a new version not the leak version

Was Del asked about the Best Buy deal or did he just not comment on it?

i just thought i hope its rhiad and the beoudins fits this movie a lot it being an action movie and rhiad being a rocker

I don't know if Del has been asked about Best Buy..

It would be awesome if it was a brand new song we haven't heard yet coming out, otherwise whatever song it ends up being, its a great outcome for us because it shows GNR are surely ready to let the album go, and at the same time its a final, polished version of whatever song it ends up being, compared to the different rough mixes/edits circulating on the internet..

You beat me to it.  I say Rhiad would be best fit from the material they've shown us (live)...of course a new song is a possibility.  Even if it is an old song, it is still product placement - obviously a concerted marketing plan has begun.  I really think a big announcement MUST be coming this week.

How can anyone read this thread and not smile?  As far as speculation goes, this is great, great news all around...

I'm not smiling.

I'm sitting here grinning like a monkey on crack at work, and my manager's not happy about it

Scratch that.  I meant, "How can anyone read this thread and not grin like a monkey on crack?"      :beer:

Although I am sure we will hear it here as soon as it is official, I have added BestBuy's news page to my daily web read. :drool:

I work for best buy, and got a phone call very, very early yesterday morning from a nice coworker who was there, exciting times are afoot....expect an announcement very soon. Our guys get back from the Media kickoff this weekend, and I don't think they will be able to  keep info under wraps.

Keep us informed Kitty.  Did the co-worker go into any details?

If the Nov. 25th date is still in play, you'd have to expect an announcement real soon.  Axl said it would take about 8 weeks to get an album out once everything is finalized right?  Well, today is September 25th, exactly 8 weeks prior to 11/25.

Yes, there are some more details, but its all confidential to the company and I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to know, so for the sake of my job and his, I'm keeping what I heard quiet until an official announcement. All anyone needs to know is that now is the time to be excited.

Thank you for sharing that Kitty.

With all this speculation going around, particularly about this convention, I think we might hear something next week..

Very diplomatic and safe answer.  Thanks for sharing.  Feel free to PM me all the details.  I won't tell anyone.  Just kidding,,, unless you really want to.  I'm a vault.

All signs point to this being "it", but I'm gonna do my best to not get too excited until we hear official word.

This has to be it. It has never got as close as this over the years. You can quote as many past Axl interviews as you like but in this case WE ARE ACTUALLY SEEING THINGS HAPPENING.

so many rumors over the past 10 years.. Until I dont see it I dont believe it....

This looks like it might finally be it...my fingers are crossed with the rest of you... :peace:

Does anyone know someone who works for Best Buy?

I see a trip in my future tomorrow afternoon.  ;)

you have a link?

Don't bother asking or looking for links here. This isn't the place to find them.

Well it looks like 2008 is finally the year. November 25th seems pretty promising right now!

Interesting to note that Body of Lies comes out on 10th October 2008 in the US and 21st November 2008 in the UK. In terms of promotion the timing couldnt have been better! Interviews, TV appearances througout October in the US, then straight over to the UK the week of the 24th November to coincide with the release of the movie there. Its also interesting to note that NIN have cancelled their shows from the 7th to the 15th of October due to "unforseen technical issues," perhaps Robin has been reactivated and recalled to the Guns camp for the promotion in early October, it certainly fits the dates i have outlined above.

If the World Might also be the first single.

Jonx

If the world is the song that is gonna be in the end credits to Body of Lies. confirmed by Manager Any Gould at the best buy meeting.
(it's in the intro of If the world)

Chidem/twat/itw are all changed (differend vocals. differend instrumental but nothing to big. just new additions.

to me it just seems like YES things are rolling, and we are finally near To a new start, and wait will be over soon!

yes! And the thing is....I wouldn't let Best Buy employees hear the songs......unless the deal was actually done first! Why would they let them hear those else? haha! :D

Kickass, this must be it!?  :nervous:

Exciting times, indeed!  Oh and I've just bagged second row tickets to see dear ol' Russell Brand at the Hammy Odeon (as it'll always be to me!); last time I was there 'twas to see Guns in 2006 - ahh memories!  :D

Anyway back to present times, I'm trying to contain my excitement in case of unforeseen snags but it's so difficult when the official announcement seems to be within touching distance.  Having waited so long, it's hard to believe that the time may almost be upon us...fingers and everything else will be permanently crossed over the weekend!   ;D

Just waiting for for the leader of the band now.   :D

There is enough sure information out there to point in the one direction, the album is definitely coming.

This is it. No more waiting. Only a major fuck up can stop it now.

Real tempted to say wake Axl up but I guess we should let him sleep.  Guess we'll just hang out. 

We will get official word in due course, whether it is from Axl himself, Del, the management or whoever else.

this sounds like promising speculation :D

IF, "If The World" is the song in Body of Lies, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be the first single.  I mean you would think it would be, but "Shackler's Revenge" hasn't been released as a single yet.  Though the song, I would think, would be on an official soundtrack so I guess it'd be more likely.

Yeah I know maybe it will seem more real at that point. 

Maybe they better put that on youtube with Axl saying read my lips--lol

It may be short...or it may be permanent (Wal Mart's exclusives have done both..some 30 to 60 days, some permanent).  If it's short, though, I would expect it to be longer than the just over 30 day exclusivity of Rockband 2 to the 360.  I'd bet it's more like 45 to 60 days...ie: through the holiday season and the first of the year.

I could be wrong, but that's what I suspect.

Walmart has had "exclusive" (for example the Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montanna Best of Both Worlds Concert CD with bonus DVD pack in) that were only exclusive for a limited time.

They've likewise had exclusives that are "forever".

I wouldn't immediately assume one or the other without more information.  Could be either one.

I'm hearing (and not from anyone "concrete" or "in the know") it will be out on the 25th (the Tuesday), rather than the 28th...but it WILL be featured prominently in the Black Friday flyer.

We'll see.

Sounds like the train is ROLLIN again.  : ok:

I think the time is NOW  :hihi:

You know I think that was a good idea I came up with there in my babbling.  Can we request Axl give us this news in person?  Some kind of web broad cast..

Lots of people, actually....including one related to me by marriage.

But they're front line associates, all and won't really hear specifics until either this weekend, or early next week when the folks from their stores/districts return from the event.

I think we got about a week...that's just my wholly uneducated guess.  I think we'll hear something around the 2nd or 3rd of October, about a week before the movie comes out.

Hallelujah!!!  It's been such a long wait, nice to see things have finally taken shape. Couldn't be a greater time for all of us, not to mention the band.  Axl's masterpiece almost out of his hands and into ours, I am so appreciative to be a part of this long awaited, most mysterious, and mind boggling rock n roll journey.    :)

definately mind boggling  :hihi: :hihi:.............
every time i log on the first thing i do is check for any updates, ive had the same logging on procedure for as long as i can remember. 1st i check the official site, 2nd step is to jump on here, 3rd step check the internet news sources............
i think its beyond mind boggling, ive been eating, sleeping, thinking, & playing GN'R since 87'. its definately been a rockin' rollercoaster ride and its about to get goin' again  : ok:

:hihi: My routine is your's in reverse.  Check the news, then come here - if what I found on the internet is true, it'll be posted here, then check the official site on the off chance they might have said something about said news.  :yes:

This is awsome

the gnr hype train is about to start blowing smoke out of the engine

I can see the train out in the distance, heading straight for us

BRING IT ON mother f@ckers!!!!!

No disrespect to HTGTH but I feel the same way. I cannot wait to see the big news up on that official site!!

seems like there is no turning back at this point : ok:

on November 25 gnr fans will finally get out revenge and its gonna be soooo sweet!


god, i am so fucking excited! :beer:

I want to see Axl announce it in a video,
or do a unannounced concert somewhere,
something totally out of the blue..

In still cant get my head around what this "Best Buy" agreement is. I gather its an American retail outlet, but what does it mean for CD? Is that the only place it will be availible when its released? What about amazon.com and play.com etc, will it be availible there?

We don't know for sure.  But this is NOT the first time this sort of thing has happened.

Several possible scenarios are (in no particular order):

1 - General release of Chi Dem worldwide, but Best Buy in the US gets a Special Edition Chi Dem
2 - Chi Dem gets worldwide release EXCEPT the US, where it is ONLY available through Best Buy for a period of time, then gets general US release. (This is like AC/DC I believe)
3 - Chi Dem gets an exclusive Best Buy release in the US for x weeks and then get a general worldwide release.
4 - Chi Dem is only ever available for purchase though Best Buy in the US

OBVIOUSLY 4 is not going to happen, but for some reason there seems to be lots of panic and assumption that it will.  It doesn't make sense and there is no precedent for it. 

My guess is scenario 2. 

Since we don't know the specifics, we can only assume.

Often it means that the retailer in question has the exclusive rights to sell that release.

So if Best Buy gets the exclusivity for Chinese Democracy, you'd have to visit their store (or web site I assume) to get the cd.

Then there's the question on how long they'd have the exclusivity.


In other countries, you could buy the album in any store that sells it since these deals are often limited to the USA.






/jarmo

I believe in these cases you can also preorder from the website and have it arrive the day of release.

It is NOT obvious that 4 won't happen, and their IS precedent for it. See the Eagles last release and AC/DC's upcoming release for more.

http://www.gigwise.com/news/46377/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy-to-get-november-release

http://www.gigwise.com/news/46377/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy-to-get-november-release

I'm not sure if they have confirmation, or if this is just an amalgamation of all the rumors:

EH!! You beat me by about 4 min...I posted it in the Best Buy thread.

:)

OH MY GOD! OMG! OMG! :beer:

I'm excited...but not TOO excited yet.

What I can't tell from the article is if they got some sort of "on the ground" confirmation, or if they're just mashing together all the various forum rumors swirling around into a story.

It might just be a case of them reporting what we're all talking about, rather than having any sort of solid info from someone who was at the BB event.  I don't know.

Here's hoping!! :)

?Chinese Democracy? Rumors: Release Date, Best Buy Exclusive

9/26/08, 10:48 am EST

The latest rumors regarding the release of Guns N? Roses? Chinese Democracy have been swirling around message boards this week. The first rumor is that the long-awaited album will be released exclusively through Best Buy on November 25th. The source of the multi-tiered rumors is a supposed ?vendor convention? that Best Buy had on Wednesday in Dallas, Texas.

Reportedly, Guns manager Andy Gould told the 900 employees the news about Chinese Democracy before previewing three songs from the album. Cellphone recordings of the event were later distributed through GNR fan forums. Gould also reportdly alerted the crowd that ?If The World? would also be featured in the closing credits for the upcoming Leonardo DiCaprio/Russell Crowe film Body of Lies, which was confirmed by message boarders on movie websites (like IMDB) who happened to catch a press screening of the film yesterday. The number of witness accounts, evidence and message boards involved makes it hard to believe this is all just a hoax, but this is Axl Rose we?re talking about, so we?ll believe it when the press release reaches our inbox. Still, we?re cautiously looking forward to Chinese Democracy and free Dr. Pepper on November 25th.

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/09/26/chinese-democracy-rumors-release-date-best-buy-exclusive/

Thanks to Blabbermouth.net

Well there is no Best Buy stores in the UK yet so it wont be exclusive to them here, I imagine a standard release outside of the US.

I suppose that Best Buy could have an advertising campaign to promote the album. If it is a release planned for the xmas market then I suppose that Best Buy is the kind of store that will have huge numbers of people passing through spending money on presents. If the first single is a huge hit then Best Buy reap the rewards with people having to go there if they want the album.

But isnt having the album confined to one store chain in the US, restricting sales a little and just asking for unofficial copies to flood the web once its released?

However it would be quite ironic if, after all the leaks, Chinese Democracy hits the stores in a format that is impossible to make copies of. :D

Wow...I've missed the cell phone recordings being distributed....that's something I didn't know.

I also missed the reports from people about what specific song was included.

Depends.

If the chain guarantees they'll buy a certain amount of copies and also promote the release, then it probably wouldn't hurt. Quite the opposite.

Also, the whole exclusivity thing generates press....




/jarmo

Traditionally the UK get albums a day early. Its also pretty convenient as the film comes out in the UK on the 21st November, so the film on Friday with the song and then the album on Monday.

Jonx

Not true.

AC/DC's newest release it NOT only going to be sold at Walmart in the US.  It's ALREADY being promoted at "general" music stores in Canada.   Are you suggesting that NOBODY outside of the United States will be able to purchase Black Ice?  Because VERY CLEARLY that is not the case.

I suspect (though I'm sure GunnerOne can elaborate) this might be a misunderstanding in punctuation.  As in:

4 - Chi Dem is only ever available for purchase though Best Buy in the US (meaning, worldwide, you'll only be able to buy this item from a US based company, Best Buy)

as opposed to this:

4 - Chi Dem is only ever available for purchase though Best Buy, in the US (In the US, you'll only be able to buy the item from best buy)

You could be right.

Sales, in this case would = items shipped, not actually SOLD (we're not talking for RIAA purposes, but strictly for business purposes).

To get exclusivity, typically a chain commits to buying an exact number of copies...and is NOT able to return copies that are unsold for "credit".  They might only sell through 50% of their commitment..but then they mark them down until they're either giving them away, or put them in the trash.  It takes ALL the risk out of it for the label.  EVERYTHING is contracted, including distribution and manufacture...no guesswork from them.

The chain gets the foot (or web) traffic generated from the exclusive....you'd think maybe driving some more purchases.  It's like using the item as a loss leader, if it doesn't sell as well as what you committed to.  It's more risky for the chain, but...with something like this, I think it's safe to say that it will accomplish the goal.  CD is almost mythic in the music world....

http://www.gigwise.com/news/46377/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy-to-get-november-release

Hopefully it's true.
:)

Yeah, people go to buy the album and come out with the album plus some other stuff they didn't know they needed.....  :hihi:




/jarmo

Ah, I see things more clearly now : ok:

Surely it is now a countdown to the official statement regarding the status of the new album and its release. The clouds of rumour have been gathering for a while and perhaps the storm is about to break....

Great time to be a GnR fan. It can only get better.

Yup, that pretty much describes every trip I've ever taken to Best Buy in my life.   :hihi:

I agree. Until I see an official statement with Axl's name on it, or on the GNR homepage, I'm excited, but taking this with a grain of salt.

Oh Slashbaconpit don't worry the greatest band ever is coming back ! with a new song in a movie, CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW !!!

Chinese Democracy starts.....hopefully very soon ;)

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=105646

right now, i'm just waiting for a press release and hopefully a track listing

Would the Best Buy deal affect iTunes or other online stores?

It's called a "loss leader" for Best Buy.  They probably aren't expecting to make a lot of money off CD alone by promising to buy so many copies.  However, it gets people into their stores that walk out with TV's and stereos.

Axl Rose is going to save the US economy with CHINESE DEMOCRACY!

Not sure, ACDC just shunned itunes, there seems to be a bit of a backlash going on at the moment. It all depends on how Axl wants to present CD to the world, as individual tracks or an entire album, a work of art. ACDC didnt like the idea of people being able to download individual tracks so decided not to go with apple!

Jonx

Guns N' Roses. Chinese Democracy. November release. Could it be? If all indications are correct, the answer is a firm "yes." And you can mark November 25 as the date to remember on your calender.

In US politics, we have what's known as the "October surprise" - stunning news that turns an election on its head. But if Axl Rose - er, Guns N' Roses - are indeed releasing the endlessly awaited Chinese Democracy before the year's end, then we finally have what will be known as the "November surprise."

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy-set-for-november-release-175232

Yup, that's why I said THIS in my original post:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=53241.msg1105142#msg1105142


:)

Jarmo, do you believe, this is it? That it will happen after all these years? :)

I believe it !

1. Record is done
2. Management is in place
3. Shacklers Revenge Rock band 2, new song in Body Of Lies
 
ITS COMING !!!

I didn't check the net for two days, and this is what I found  :D

I'll truly believe this when I see an official statement: "Chinese Democracy is released xx.xx.2008. Peace, W.Axl Rose"

Next week might be interesting !

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: hopefully! :D

I also think, this is it! But I/we have been dissapointed before. Hopefully we will hear it from GNR/Uni next week. :)

yeah!

On reflection,  I think I was dead wrong in expecting the first announcement to come from a source other than GNR.  it's not someone else's release of a game or a film. It's GNR's damn album, a fruit of their endeavours.

Axl should declare the release proud and loud. :D


5 - first Chi Dem gets an exclusive Best Buy release in the US, several days later a general release outside of the US starts and then after some weeks it gets available in regular record stores in the us.

4 isn't an option if they actually want to sell the product.

Just everyone please do me a favor.

Get excited, talk, converse, all that...I'm having a grand ole' time with this.

But remember it's not official until it's officially official.

I REALLY would hate to see this turn into another battling ground if it either a) turns out to be incorrect or b) things change and thus the release date changes before an official announcement is made.

:)

don't start waiting till you know till when.

i doubt it, but it would be sweet. god knows we've suffered enough. but then again they don't owe us nothing, so it's their call if they wanna do it or can do it now.


but the thing i have a hard time believing is if this is all true or a hoax. like the best buy private listen to 3 tracks... i suppose we'll see.

and another thing is how will the band promote it if at least 2 of their members are promoting other people's material, NIN and Rhianna

its all if's and but's, fart's and splut's until its officially official on the officially official site  :)

Axl does the promoting

Aw, I don't care. I don't even want the album that much ...



That's what I would say if I were the evil version of myself from the Star Trek Mirror Mirror universe. However, I'm not, so I actually, it's the opposite of above. However, I may still grow a goatee.

VERY WISE ADVICE.

maybe they don't promote those material everyday?

I don't think it can be a total hoax. Or the GNR camp/management/mysteron would have killed it already.

Axl, Tommy seems most logic.