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I know there were (at least) two released/leaked tracks from the AFD that axl re-recorded in 1999.

The common one was SCOM. I've heard the Big Daddy version, but does anyone know if the re-recorded song exists without the live/old beginning?

also, another re-recorded track leaked from these sessions (or it was rumored to be from those sessions, but definately was a new GNR version of the song)... I know because I had it at one time, but have since lost it. I think it was rocket queen.... does anyone have this?

also, I've posted this at another forum, and some tried to accuse me of downloading a fake from bearshare or limewire or something...  i just wanna say upfront that i'm not a fool and i don't use those p2p shit apps anyhow.  I got this from another fan about 4 or 5 years ago, and it was definitely legit.  or am i making this all up?

I've never heard anything besides SCOM.

And I think you neither.

the only other thing it could be was from live era.

I think you're talking about Civil War. That was from a GNR cover band, I guess, but people tried to make it like it was from the new band. There's no old GNR song re-recorded out there as far as I know.

When Gnr re-recorded Appetite didn't they omit a song and replace it with a newer version of You Could Be Mine

Two songs: You're Crazy and Anything Goes, I guess.

It was a re-recording of Mr. Brownstone titled (at least when I downloaded it) Mr. Brownstone 1999. I don't know if it was a re-recording or just a remaster/mix... but I would lean more towards a remix of some sort because it seemed almost exactly the same just different tones, etc. It was definitely official sounding though, not like a fan remix. The intro drums had less reverb... sounded cleaner.

I don't have it anymore though :/. Erased my computer forgot to take the songs and back them up.

I believe the ending of Rocket Queen on Live Era (from the 6:20 mark) has vocals that Axl re-recorded for the album's release...  That could be what you are thinking of (not the new band, though!)

Yeah! I remember this... remember hearin' the two versions of Brownstone thousand times to see the differences... I think that was just a remix...

the 2 ones are Rocket queen and Scom.

Do you have Rocket Queen 2 handy? I'd like to hear it.  : ok:


 :peace:

there are two versions of kohd...but both by the old band.  the days of thunder version is sometimes thought to be by the new band.  although correct me if im wrong but i think the days version has steven on drums and matt's on the uyi version.

estrenged from live era was a parts of finck

Are you serious? Can you give some examples with times?

a.

I don't know what he's talking about, but I can hear Robin in Live Era's ''Mr Brownstone''.

Pay attention to the part ''I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do it [...]'' at the end of the song.

It's Robin :peace:

i think they replaced the two songs (prob. the ones voodoo mentioned) with ycbm and patience.

The other version of Mr Brownstone was the one that David Niven mixed. According to Slash's book Niven wanted to have a go at mixing
but the band didn't like it said it sounded to hollow and went with the other two who mixed it think it was Clink and Barberio(sp)

Rob

This whole thread has my head spinning...the only thing I have heard confirmed, or officially discussed was that the 'original' songs were recorded by the 'new' bandmembers in the run-up to either 2002 or 2006/2007 tour, as part of Axl's training with new players to master them.  Have these recordings been released?  I thought Big Daddy version of SCOM was Sheryl Crowe?  If this material is out there (legally), how can I (legally) get it?

it's basically the live-era version and during the solo the new band kicks in and i think you can get it at Newgnr.com

??? Not on official soundtrack (tracklist below)...when did it play during movie?
1. Sweet Child O' Mine - Sheryl Crow 
2. When I Grow Up - Garbage 
3. Peace Out - Adam Sandler 
4. Just Like This - Limp Bizkit 
5. Only Love Can Break Your Heart - Everlast 
6. Ga Ga - Melanie C 
7. What Is Life - Shawn Mullins 
8. The Kiss - Adam Sandler 
9. Instant Pleasure - Rufus Wainwright 
10. Ooh La La - Wise Guys 
11. Sid - Adam Sandler 
12. If I Can't Have You - Yvonne Elliman 
13. Smelly Kid - Adam Sandler 
14. Passing Me By - The Pharcyde 
15. Rush - Big Audio Dynamite 
16. Hooters - Allen Covert 
17. Babe - Styx 
18. Overtime - Adam Sandler 
19. The Kangaroo Song - Tim Herlihy 

i believe it was during the credits

i heard the new SCOM yesterday, i think it sounds pretty cool, but its not in the soundtrack of the movie, where can i get it?

its only officially released on the video dvd from "big daddy"

Rose: No, no, that's not true at all. In fact, actually, I have re-recorded "Appetite" and --

You re-recorded "Appetite For Destruction?"
Rose: Yes, I have.

The whole album?
Rose: Yes.

Whoa.
Rose: Well, with the exception of two songs, because we replaced those with "You Could Be Mine," and "Patience," and why do that? Well, we had to rehearse them anyway to be able to perform them live again, and there were a lot of recording techniques and certain subtle styles and drum fills and things like that that are kind of '80s signatures that subtly could use a little sprucing up... a little less reverb and a little less double bass and things like that.

Who are the musicians who have re-recorded "Appetite?"
Rose: Josh Freese on drums, Tommy Stinson on bass, Paul Tobias on guitar -- you guys know him as Paul Huge, that's how it's been written everywhere. It's Paul Tobias on guitar, and Robin Finck was on lead guitar, but that... that will stay on some of it. Robin's guitar will stay on some, but not all. I don't know what I'm going to do with it, exactly, when I would be putting that out. But you know, it has a lot of energy. Learning the old Guns songs and getting them up, you know, putting them on tape, really forced everybody to get them up to the quality that they needed to be at. Once the energy was figured out by the new guys, how much energy was needed to get the songs right, then it really helped in the writing and recording process of the new record.

More recent info on that:




/jarmo

that'd be cool to see the DAT master be released.

I always thought it sounds like Tommy is singing backup on ISE on Live Era!  : ok:

I seem to remember I've read somewhere they recorded (or rehearsed?) four different versions of KOHD, and one of em was a reggea version.

Is my memory playing tricks on me now? Anyone else?

hopefully the rerecorded AFD will remain "just for learning purposes" and never be released

Would be cool if Axl himself leaked it.  :P

I'd love to have it!

i have no interest in hearing the current guns butcher old guns on record - and if it was ever released - I think the court of public opinion would absolutely crucify and vilify Axl

It's hard to take your opinions very seriously based on your name (though I appreciate that you don't attempt to hide your real feelings - seriously), but I tend to agree with the latter half of your statement.

That said, I'd love to hear it, 'cause Guns N' Roses did a spectacular job with all of the older material when I saw them four times in 2006.

its not only a 2-track-DAT-tape-master, its "ADAT":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADAT

I used to have this version of SCOM somewhere, now I've lost it :(

I'd be intrigued to hear a re-recorded version of AFD. Though it'd be interesting to know which line-up actually recorded it... probably the 2001-02 line-up.

my feelings on the current Guns has softened since the release of Democracy :o

I thought they did much better in 2006 as well; but, the timing of the re-recording of AFD predates the 2006 lineup - as Axl said "Josh Freese on drums, Tommy Stinson on bass, Paul Tobias on guitar -- you guys know him as Paul Huge, that's how it's been written everywhere. It's Paul Tobias on guitar, and Robin Finck was on lead guitar, but that... that will stay on some of it."

and before 2006, from the footage I saw fromm 2000/2002, they really were butchering the AFD songs - and that has nothing to do with my username

well, i still swear that the re-recorded version of rocket queen was floating around at one point, and i had it but lost it during a reformat.  I know I had this at one point.  it wasn't all over the place, and a lot of fans didn't seem to know about it, but there was some talk of it on one of the forums and i asked the poster and he send me a rapidshare link.  i've been listening to GNR since I was 8 (yea, in 1988/1989) and I know this was legit axl...  not a cover band.  and this wasn't some fake thing downloaded from some p2p network.

at any rate, perhaps it was a studio version that was spliced into the live era recording or sonmething...  i guess i'm just saying this again, though, in hopes that someone happens across this and has it sitting around.

i would love to hear all the songs with the new band, i love the original , but i love the voice of Axl in the new SCOM.

And Patience as well.