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Sunday, July 20, 2008

Fergie delights fans and defies doubters at Pacific

Review: The pop star's lightweight routine had 'em screaming and dancing in the aisles ? but she should keep away from classic-rock.

Not that they got any new material from the pop star, only fast-paced medleys. Paying homage to her launch pad to stardom, she and her break-dancers offered up a whirlwind Black Eyed Peas mix, that included chopped-up bits of "Don't Lie," "Hey Mama," "Shut Up" and "Don't Phunk with My Heart." Mid-set, after a wardrobe change into painted-on black leather pants, boots and a black T under a turquoise cardigan, she did a fouled-up array of songs that began with an off-key squelch that evolved into Paul McCartney's "Live and Let Die," Guns N' Roses-style.

Channeling her inner Axl Rose while twirling around with the mic stand, she then busted into Led Zeppelin's "Black Dog." But the mic slipped and hit the stage with a booming thud. She recovered well, though, singing and smiling through the rest of "Black Dog" then quickly moving into "Santeria" by Sublime and finishing off with the Rolling Stones' "Start Me Up." Puzzling that a Sublime song would creep into an otherwise classic-rock medley, but the crowd liked it.

Then, out of nowhere, GNR guitarist Slash appeared ? and no one clapped for him. It was either a case of "no, is it?" or "who is that dude with the top hat?" Fergie introduced him: "some of you little ones may know him from "Guitar Hero," but I know him from a band called Velvet Revolver and a band called Guns N' (bleeping) Roses!"

The duo did GNR's "Sweet Child o' Mine" and Heart's "Barracuda," both "Guitar Hero" staples. At the end of the latter track Fergie did numerous one-handed cartwheels, mic in hand, while singing the last high note of the song ? I counted four cartwheels but started to get dizzy. Despite the acrobatics, Fergie should stick to doing what Fergie does best ? pop-tart tunes ? and stay away from rock.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fergie-slash-black-2099159-eyed-peas

Fergie feat. Slash - Sweet Child O' Mine Live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vcru4oYZoo

Fergie Concert - OC Fair 2008 - Special Guest Slash (partial)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMXjU9psGns

good fucking god.   Fergie?   ::)   

no integrity whatsofuckingever

Atleast he's out playing :P

 ::)  What does that have to do with integrity?  He is a guitar player.  He plays guitar.  He is having fun.  JIM BOB, WHY THE FUCK DO YOU GIVE A SHIT?  HE IS AN OVERRATED PLAYER ACCORDING TO YOU, SO WHO CARES.  Sounds like Sour Grapes to me.

so when he gets up on stage with Miley Ray Cyrus you're going to think its the greatest thing in the world?

At least it wasn't the Best Buy band.....

 ;)


/jarmo

Ha, good point Jarmo. 

Good Christ I hate Fergie. 

I can forgive Slash a lot of things, playing with this talentless mess, maybe not.

Oh well, it's done now.

Maybe someone got the whole song with the solo... That is all I want to hear anyway.

The full song....

Fergie feat. Slash - Sweet Child O' Mine Live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vcru4oYZoo

Funkey Monkey, you are the MAN!  WATCHING NOW.  Post review of solo soon.


Okay, the solo was great, he went old school, no wah.  But what happened to his sound?  You couldn't hear the very end of the solo.  Still a cool performance.

coming next week: Kelly Clarkson & $la$h do their rendition of another song $la$h never liked to play in the first place.  :hihi:

that wasn't even funny  :no:

better luck next time!   : ok:


on topic: I also think this is kinda lame but if the man likes to play, I got nothing against it.

yeah it's lame he played with her. but it doesn't effect me or anyone else ....so who really cares?

Is it wrong to prefer he play with other musicians who actually have some sort of talent?

Her singing this song sounds like someone killing kittens. :no:

he's played with fergie and the black eyed peas before and will probably do it again.

that said her voice doesn't really suit the song at all, would be nice to hear him play with someone who can sing it properly again, and also play it with wah.

its not meant to be funny.    watch it happen.

I'm looking for someone to make a friendly wager with me, because thats what we do here in vegas.

$lash is going to perform with one of these artists within the next year:
kelly clarkson
miley ray cyrus
nickelback

if he gets on stage with any of those 3 acts at any point in the next 365 days, you pay me $100.   if not, i pay you $100.  whos game?

not sure but i think he's already played with nickleback. or at least the singer.


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and meanbone i think you need anger management.

Ok

I am officially embarrassed. :'(



although its awesome finally to  hear a SCOM solo not butchered. : ok:


It is way fuckin better than Sheryl Crow's version though.

hey here's a plus for you D considering he had no wah he still managed to play the solo better than anyone else has in recent years.

FUCKING A

Take some fuckin notes.

SLASH Performs 'Sweet Child O' Mine' With FERGIE; Video Available - July 20, 2008

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=101259

disagree.   I've seen others play the song better and use the wah like its supposed to be played.   you can't even hear the last part of it!  that just shows how biased you are, judging it without even being able to hear it.  :rofl:

of course, you couldn't help but take a stab at someone else to make you feel better about how embarassing your hero is.    care to take me up on my bet?

if out of tune bends are what pleases your ear then each to their own.

Slash didnt even need a Wah pedal


and the parts up until u couldnt hear which isnt Slash's fault were impeccable.

out of tune bends and Robin's fingers have a lisp or something cause they seem to get tied up and shit.

i dont think i've ever seen anyone use out of tune bends.

$lash played it ok in this clip, he didnt' fuck it up which is good considering he doesn't play it on the regular anymore.   (although the fact that its with Fergie completely removes any aspect of cool from it).   And while I favor other interpetations I saw in 2006,  i really don't see much difference between how $lash played it and how its played in GnR.. a few different notes here and there maybe and no wah.    hardly makes any difference when you are right there at the show and the band is kicking ass on stage.   


again, bashing robin in threads that don't have a fucking thing to do with him!   get off your obsession.

you never went to see the band, if you did you wouldn't be such a hater.

i could post 5 youtube clips of robin playing this song where it sounds better than this version.

i knew from the second i saw this thread that a few clowns would take this opportunity to start bashing guys in GnR because their hero whores himself out to fergie and kelly clarkson.   its the only way they know how to make themselves feel better about it.

I can so picture you making that exact facial expression as you write every post.


You know how much I love Robin Finck, but no Slash fans get on him for playing on the soundtrack to a Jason Statham movie.

long time no talk  :beer:

I dont give a shit about movie soundtracks.    its a way to get your music out there.     GnR did it with a few films.   

I wouldn't like it if I saw Robin on stage with Kelly Clarkson either.

yeah, its been a while. I remember the days of RFF well...good times  :beer:

I see your point. I'm not particularly fond of some of things Slash does. I'm still a fan of him, and a fan of Robin, and I dont see why some people always bring him up in a negative light when talking about Slash or vice versa. There was a time when I thought everyone had gotten over that debate  :hihi:

its just the only way D knows how to cope with Slash doing dumb things like this.

Is anyone taking me up on my bet?

there is a wah in SCOM?

anyway slash was spot on and fergie's vocals werent as bad as some people make them out to be  ::)

thanks for posting that funky  : ok:

fuck yea it does.   second half the solo, thats the way it sounds best IMO.    When I saw GnR in Las Vegas last year the one of the most intense parts of the show was when that wah kicked in.

yeah i just played the CD and noticed it....never did before ... well i did i just never clued in....ya learn something new everyday i suppose.  :hihi:

funny too cuz i can play the song...but i just play the rythm and i dont have a wah and i'm not good enough to be able to pull off that solo...so its really no surprise i over looked it i guess  :hihi:

Ugh!  So fucking un-metal!

careful sexkitten....people get upset if GnR is mentioned in association with the Metal genre  :hihi:

Up until the UYI Tour, Slash rarely played wah live on this song because he went straight guitar to amp in those days and his pedals weren't great in a live setting.  With more money came better touring equipment and he was able to use the wah in a live setting again.  I assume he didn't use wah here because he was standing in for a song or two and didn't want to go through the trouble of bringing his wah out for one song if someone in the band didn't have one.  I agree the wah adds passion to the solo.  But a wah will cover up a lot of mistakes, so in that regard it was nice to not have the wah so we could hear that he can still hit all the right notes.

you want to take me up on my bet?

kelly clarkson, miley cyrus, nickelback.  1 of 3 within 1 year.  $100.   

Exactly and who exactly WROTE that part?


Im not proud of Slash playing with Fergie, I said I was embarrassed. He still sounded great on the song and its still not as bad as playing with NSync.

Nope, cause he has already jammed with Chad Kroger of Nickelback and already performed with one idol winner, why not 2.

D, shut up.  you are beating a dead horse.    You say the same thing over and over again.

cuz you know its going to happen.  :hihi:

2 it is.   i'll admit its a long shot, but its in no way impossible.  1 is a given.

SO HE SPENT 115 YRS , TO PERFECT HIS SOLO HE FUCKED UPED MANY TIMES, ON A SONG HE DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO RECORD..LOL

Ok, so let me get this straight

Slash didnt want a power ballad on AFD and that makes him a sellout?


I dont care how bad Slash "HATED" the song

without slash there never wouldve been a SCOM and without SCOM, one could say, GNR wouldn't be the phenomenon it is today.

FACT!

 ???

Whenever I hear Slash speak he certainly doesn't come across as "dumb". He is very well spoken actually.


(LOL)  : ok:

Without Axl recognizing the potential of that joke guitar intro Slash played, there would be no SCOM to talk about.

FACT!




/jarmo

Proving that they need eachother.

FACT!

I beg to differ, I think Slash works great with people when he  is guided. I see it time and time again on stuff he does with  other artist.  HE comes up with awesome solos. BUT!< why can he do that with bands he is now, Why isn't there a stand out solo from any VR record, or Snakepit? and if you think you can prove me wrong Id be happy. BUT NO! all of his past came from cohesion, and pushing, to get the best. And also when he has worked with other artist he has delivered great solos. Its not that Axl and Slash are inclusive, he took himself out yrs ago! that is FACT!

this really sucked, but at least she didn't piss her pants this time

I think u are listening to VR with an agenda not wanting to like something. Slither has a very good guitar solo, so does FTP, Lovin The Alien, Suckertrain Blues.

I wonder how many people "listen" to the music without letting Scott ruin it for u.


Slash and Axl are musical soulmates. They can both do good without one another but those two have Chemistry that comes around maybe once every 20 years.  Richards/Jagger, Plant/Page, Iommi/Osbourne, May/Mercury  Perry/Tyler,  Slash/Rose

Very very short list

I do believe Slash is satisfied and doesnt want to work as hard. It happens when people get Rich and famous and all that. Happens to athletes, tons of people.

Hearing Axl talk about those mean bluesy riffs Slash was coming up with but didnt want to develop makes me sad just wondering how great it couldve been.


Lastly, U are wrong about Slash being pushed cause that is irrelevant and doesnt even matter. I dont give a shit how hard Axl pushed Slash, it was still Slash that ULTIMATELY came up with those riffs and solos.

Give Axl another guitar player and he can push them for 20 years and they still wouldnt come up with the stuff Slash did.

Slash also was good at pushing axl also see "Coma"

well this is obviously a hanginf offence

he helped the song so he can play it with whoever the fuck he wants to

its sad the way people take it personally, you would think they owned the song themselves

Oh you just had to go there today didn't you? Lets break it down, Richard did session work on their album to get paid. Slash is going around playing with fergie for a different reason all together, cause he sure as hell isn't getting paid to play a few songs with her live. That's the difference with that.

If you're going to bemoan someone for doing session work, then look at your precious slash and blackstreet.  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auD76IbK8Sw

Slash on Barracuda!

Maybe he did get paid, he has to pay his bills somehow.

You really think he got paid to play a few songs live with Fergie?

As much as I don't care that much for Fergie, I thought she did pretty good with the song, and it was awesome hearing Slash play SCOM again, in it's entirety. 

That sentiment gets old, after awhile, Jim Bob.  I'm surprised you even care, enough, to make a comment about it.   

Dude you are such a fuckin Hater Bro! Face it Slash is an ICON! He can play and will play with whomever he wants and it will still be cool! You need to understand that Slash's Legacy is set as one of the all time greatest guitarists. It does not matter who he plays with because that will not tarnish that Legacy. Do you think Jimmy Page's Legacy as a guitar player is tarnished because he played with P. Diddy. Absolutely not!

If Axl did a duet with Miley Cyrus you would be saying... Axl is a marketing genious! First Rock Band 2 now Miley Cyrus then the View, and Finally Oprah's CD of the month club! CD is going to outsell AFD for sure! Round TWO!

Slash jams with Fergie because he likes to play and now he is a sellout. I understand you are sad because Robin did not play on this years Nikolodian awards, but I promise you it is going to be alright. I wish Axl would be out there performing with other Artist. Even if it is not your cup of tea, which I could totally understand, I still think that it is cool to see some of the musicians you like performing with other artists who you would not normally associate them with. Who would have thought Axl and Elton John were going to be a big hit? On paper it does not look that cool, does it?

Slash is well respected and liked by most in the music industry and that is why he gets invited to play with so many artists. Although you may think it would be stupid to play with Fergie, she is actually one of the top selling artist right now and so are the Black Eyed Peas plus they get a lot of air play. So maybe Slash is planning to have her sing on his Solo Album and he is putting himself out there to a different audience that may not necessarilly be exposed to Slash's music. Like her or not she sells and that is what the music industry cares about. If GNR performs at the VMAS they would essentially being doing the same... exposing themself to a mixed audience, not all Rock or GNR fans, putting there music out there. Are they sellouts. NO!They would be smart! Great, and more power to them.

P.S. Isn't it ironic that Slash gets bashed for playing with artist from different musical backgrounds than his while maintaining his musical roots, however Axl gets praised for wanting to completely change the style of music that GNR plays altogether and that is cool. HMM! Strange.

Mmm, thanks for that viewpoint Hudson.  :beer:

Is sounds like it isn't Slash who is "selling out" here.

Hudson, great post!   :beer:

Please don't. We still haven't properly recovered from the 'awesome' Robin solo you posted last time... :hihi:

HOLY SHIT u are my  new hero on this forum! 

Everything this guy just said is what I wish I would've been able to say *unless something in there gets him banned :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

I actually forgot about the Elton John thing.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

My ears are still ringing from that..............

I've actually stored that link so I can show people how NOT to play guitar  :hihi:

Don't get me wrong I think robin's a decent guitarist but that was just embarrassing...

I can't believe you guys are comparing playing with Elton John to playing with Fergie. Wow. I can't believe you guys said that.  :no:

NO it isnt comparing elton John To Fergie. but People should never bash Slash for playing with Micheal Jackson.

Fergie......... Hey  listen, I cant make any excuses for that shit.

but he can do what he wants, the crowd there loved it, i dont care for that side of Slash but who the fuck am I to tell him what he should do u know? kind of silly.

I think Slash is just a nice guy and it probably doesnt take much for him to say yes. Like Clive Davis asking him to play on Daughtry's song. They did that cause Slash has such amazing credibility it would lend it to an American Idol to hopefully erase that stigma

so for Clive Davis to think of Slash as big enough to do that, thats a compliment.


I love how the argument for GNR side projects doesnt apply to Slash. Those guys can play with whoever and whenever cause they are musicians and shouldnt have to just sit around right? Ive heard that shit a billion times but u let Slash play with someone and the world ends.


I just find it hilarious that I've been on this forum years longer and have like 5 times the post of Jim Bob but yet he has almost has more posts in the VR section than I do and I am a fan and he supposedly hates them.

Can I have link to it? I dont recall any of Robin's solos being particularly bad.




You never know.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That is most ridiculous thing that i have ever heard!

the question is why would he get up on stage and play a song he doesn't care for with FERGIE?   

and to whoever made the remark about Axl singing with Miley Cyrus, HELL NO!  That would be very disappointing.

hopefully he at least got hismself a lil somethin somethin from Fergie backstage.


they are just being haters.

This is getting dangerously close to Dead Horse territory guys, there's plenty of comparison/preference threads if you'd all like to continue this line of discussion.

On topic..

I'd prefer Slash be more selective with his collaborations.

Icon or not, the mystique needs to be restored.

Credibility, more than mystique in my opinion. He hasn't been very mystical since the days when he stopped hiding his face behind walls of hair.


That makes the apparent consensus make a whole lot more sense.  :hihi:

Slash is known to perform with various artists.  I prefer him doing the song than Fergies's guitarist.  At least then, it will sound good.  Mystique never has been part of Slash's character, in my opinion anyway.

Even though he's wrote enough historically memorable riffs to always remain "credible" within his peer group, I see your point. 

Although his guitar slinger/icon status has never been more solidified, I think it's time to hide behind the hat and hair again - limit accessibility and lower the profile.

Most likely because she asked him to?

Granted it sucks.  I mean it REALLY sucks.  I mean sucks so bad I had nightmares about it last night after having to hear it just once.



 

well you didn't have to hear it . You made the choice to.

they should of just muted her mic and let us just hear slash play.

I think the simple truth is that he just doesn't care.  If it will make him more or get him exposure without requiring too much time or effort he will do it.  That's just the way it is, and it's his decision.  Just don't complain when people don't buy the "I just wanna rock fuck everything else" image that he still tries to sell.

I'm sure he did get paid for this.  They probably offered him $50,000 or something to show up and play a few songs in the set.  But there's a world of difference between a struggling artist doing session work for N'Sync when they are not known and trying to pay their bills, and a famous millionaire rock star who has sold 80 or 90 million records jumping on stage someone who makes shit music and can't sing or rap.  Slash can afford to pick his spots and maintain some integrity but like I said it's pretty clear at least from an outsider's POV that he doesn't really care

Which is my idea of best case scenario..


Which may just embody the true spirit of an artist - doing what the fuck, when the fuck for whatever the fuck reason whenever the fuck he wants.

Strange dichotomy for sure...

I don't think it's that he "doesn't care".  I think he just likes to play, whenever or whereever.  I don't see anything wrong with that.  He's said, before, that he likes to/needs to keep busy. 

Everyone keeps talking about Fergie making shit music and singing horrible.  That seems to be just a matter of opinion, here.  Obviously, someone likes her and her band, as they've done and continue to do well. 


Why? 

Simply put - oversaturation.

Just my opinion.

well, the last time i posted here i had just woken up from a bad dream so i had an anger attack of some sort, that i didn?t even realize t'ill next morning! so sorry for that.

but, since my last comment was erased ( and the mod team was right on that one) i just wanted to say:

Slash is a sold out and he's ruining Gn'r's Name

and that performance was shit. ( except for slash, but then again we always knew he could play guitar)

I don't like Fergie AT ALL, but man, she sang this quite well, I don't understand the negativity about her vocals.
If anything, I wonder why she doesn't put out music that showcases this side of her voice, because it's a hell of a lot better than that "Fergalicious" crap.


And Slash absolutely nailed it like he's still been playing it with GN'R all these years, even though he hasn't. : ok:

neither is playing Cirque du Soliel or NSync but i dont wanna get into it

the point wasnt that he played with fergie...the point was is that he does what he wants, when he wants to, and everyone else be damned

I still say ya cant fault a guy for going out and doing what he loves...i think most of you guys are pissed that he played SCOM than that he played with fergie...hell half of you guys hate Slash anyway so why even concern yourself with him pretty simple concept  :-*

If you have not noticed people like Slash and Axl really don't give a shit what people think and they will do what makes them happy. Slash will play with whomever he feels like and Axl will release CD when he feels like it. There will always be critics on both sides of these arguments saying Slash is selling out or has no integrity because he seems to play with anyone. Just like others say Axl should have released CD 8 years ago and not worry so much what critics will say and just put the music out there, tour the album, and then go back to the studio to make more music. The truth is people who have attained the level of success of Slash and Axl probably view things in a different perspective than others who are not in there shoes.

For Example: Slash appears to be laid back about the people who he decides to perform with. I can imagine he is not sitting in a room contemplating? hey should I play with Justin Timberlake at the ESPY's this week or with Sebastian Bach. Well if I play with Justin people will probably say I am a sellout because he was in NSYNC, and he is too POP for my fans, but then again I will reach a new audience. If I play with Sebastian people will say... Slash is stuck in the 80's. Alright I will play with Tom Morrello... oh Shit he is a communist... scratch him out. Alright Michael Jackson called... fuck that, he is weirdo and possibly a pedophile. Alright well McQueen called... yeah but who the hell has heard of McQueen, and then again I am SLASH. Slash does not care about any of that shit, and that is why he plays with all of them for the thrill of playing and who can blame him for that.

Slash has always said he loves to play and that he HATES downtime because he always gets in trouble... primarily drug use. I rather have Slash play with fuckin Barney and Big Bird than have him relapse again because I think he is up to his 7th life and has about two left with all the abuse he has given his body.

Now obviously I rather see Slash play with someone like a Tom Morello, Metallica, Dave Mustaine, Zakk Wylde, Ozzy, than see him play with someone like Soulja Boy, Ashanti, Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, etc. However, a couple things here... we have already seen him play with Metallica, Tom Morrelo, Zakk Wylde, so it is kind of like been there done that.

Also look at what happened with projects like Kid Rock and Sheryl Crowe. Who would have thought that they would have had such a hit song together? Again on paper when you see Kid Rock and Sheryl Crowe doing a countryish song, I am sure your initial thoughts are not... we have a number #1 hit for sure on our hands. I am sure Kid Rock fans were probably saying the same shit. What a sellout, oh great now he is turning into a pussy to sing with Sheryl Crowe? Fuckin? ?All I want to do is have some fun?!

He probably wiped his ass with those critics, and fans, and laughed his way all the way to the bank and to the top of the charts. So as a result of that supposedly CHEESY project, he climbed to the top the charts, made a shit load of money, and expanded his audience.

If you have not noticed there is not too much Rock/Rap these on the radio like the days when Korn, Limp Bizkit, and Kid Rock ruled the airwaves.

So playing with Sheryl Crowe was pretty smart for a number of other reasons.  Record company's will probably be more inclined to negotiate a better deal with KR now than if he would have kept sampling other people's music and trying to rap over them, because they know that he a more diverse artist and has expanded his musical audience and can probably continue doing so while selling records and arenas.

I can honestly say that up to now I do not have a problem with the people Slash has played with, even Fergie. She is definitely hot right now like it or not. I am sure if they want to work on a song together they it will probably get more airplay than possbily anything VR or new GNR releases in the future no matter how good it is. That is the twisted backwords world of music we live in today.

With regards to her butchering the song... It was fine. Not the best or worst. I have seen plenty of other people with whom Slash has played with like in Camp Freddy who have butchered plenty of other songs. In my opinion SCOM only sounds best when Axl sings it up until now (But that is my opinion).

If you thought Fergie butchered SCOM what did you think of Sheryl Crowe's rendition? As if that shit rocked or kicked ass. That was totally POP Cheese and a pretty lame version of the song. Maybe Slash should have played with Sheryl before releasing that version of SCOM? and by the way who authorized the rights for the release of that version of SCOM...HMM? I don't think that was Slash. Talk about losing credibility and mystique. So who is the sellout? 

Peace!

 ;D I'm just delighted to hear Slash play SCOM again, he looks cool and he plays it the perfectly. The guy is a guitar player and this is what he does. I wouldn't worry about who he plays with, people are just too critical sometimes. This is music. Slash isn't a sell out, he's a guitarist playing guitar and he does it brilliantly!!! I'd love if he was back with GNR cos he fucking rocks

Fergie. Bad choice of someone to play with.

In his time he has appeared with many great people....then he appears with fergie n her dodgy teeth.

If he wanted to appear with a female singer he should of done Joss Stone, shes actually got something good about her music and has a great voice.

from reading his book, i would speculate he's playing with anyone and everyone to keep busy so he doesn't relapse and get back on the oxycontine

nowadays with the internet and youtube, his every move is under the microscope; when he did this shit back in the 90's; youtube and these other sites weren't prevalent, so there was a thousand online reviews of his performances :beer:

I don't know how many times he's said it; but when he gets off the rode, and has alot if time on his hands; thats when he gets bored and gets heavily into drugs

Again, pure speculation from an uninformed fan :-X

but it sure sounded good to hear him play that solo again

Sound's like God is playing guitar!

Whats up with deleting posts out of this thread including mine? There was a good discussion going on the last time i was here.  ???

since a few were saying that Slash plays SCOM better than any current member of GnR; I guess many of the moderators felt rather than have a forumn to discuss it, they would just delete the posts;  maybe you can only post certain opinions here

The last post I saw here was someone saying Slash plays SCOM better then current CnR members. I didnt think there was a need to delete so many other posts tho, but hey thems the breaks. 

I think it was probably more because D was turning yet another thread into an Axl vs Slash thing.

A much better version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIGNKwMVSBA&feature=related

^^ Thanks for that!


You're going to blame it all on D?  Somewhere, Jim Bob has to take some responsibility, as he likes to set up the bait in the first place!   Just sayin'. ;)

ok.

Are you kidding? 

He's already played with Chad Kroeger. 

I'd take him up on it, with Miley Cyrus.  Seriously.  If Slash plays with Miley Cyrus, within the year, I'll pay you a $100, Jim Bob.  If not, you owe me.   

Who gives a flying fuck who Slash plays with? The guy was set for life after AFD so now he just plays for the hell of it. Playing Guitar is his life and a fine life he has had because of it.

Can I get in on that bet too Jim Bob? $100 to you if Slash plays with Billy Rays kid. Of course $100 to me if he doesn't .Let's bet.

If its Miley Cyrus or Kelly Clarkson, then you got a deal.

i want to bet too

Ok.  It's on.  (although, the Kelly Clarkson thing makes me a bit nervous..... :hihi:)  July 24, 2008 until July 24, 2009. 

godammitalltoohell.wtfamidoing?   :hihi:

only betting one person, and the bet is on with lynn.

i am a man true to my word.   :smoking:

Ok.  We're on. 

 

Could be a bad bet Lynn....... he does have a solo album coming out and Id say he will do the Santana thing and play with various people..............


Clarkson IS on the same label with Slash................................


Also Gypsy, I didnt make this thread anyone vs anyone but when u are debating certain topics are just naturally going to come up.

I just like calling out hypocrisy when I see it.

I am the main and probablyonly one that ever bitched about all these side projects.  All i heard was "These guys are musicians, its their right to go out and play.

When Slash does this though, everyone ridicules him and talks shit about him

U can tell me what is worse

Slash, on his own time for fun playing SCOM with Fergie

Or Robin and Richard I think it was playing A Christina Aguilera song at every concert.


cause u see, there really isnt much of a difference.  Just like Rockband2 and guitar hero III are all the same thing. U can loophole and have this or that technicality but essentially, both are done for EXPOSURE.

I dont think there is anything wrong with it but if people are gonna call Slash out on Guitar Hero III, lets just be fair is all I am saying.

I just saw it and think she does pretty well on the vocals. Slash is spot on as usual.

wow, mods into huge deleting mood again. come on, this was an personal opinion!
happy to see SCOM performed live again by the man who wrote the solo! in this clip you get one original member from the classic GN'R line up (= AFD) here playing the song......just like during the Axl tours since 2000/2001  :peace:

Its actually a Linda Perry song, who I might add, is really good friends with Richard. 

I don't think there's really any need to bring Axl into this.

At all.

Sounds killer! Good to see him play a Gn'R track apart from Easy/Brownstone/Paradise for a change.

you ruin threads by bringing discussions of other threads into them.

for example, this has nothing to do with Rock Band 2/GH III.  Nor does it have anything to do with Robin and Richard.  but you just can't help yourself from taking any opportunity you can to demean those guys.

now you are trying to twist his words into something they are not.....

so tell me what is better? covering an Xtina or Playing a GnR tune with Fergie on vocals? pretty fucking much the same thing IMO...

is playing that xtina song demeaning? thats the first i heard anyone say that?


Well maybe Slash is freinds with Unkle Kracker and Fergie ... again whats the diff?

lets break this down more....

Slash is poster boy for GH III....Axl, appeared on GTA-SA and is set to debut Chinese Democracy on Rock Band 2 whats the diff

Slash has own official merch store (or sorum has his own clothing line) and Axl has his face plastered on fashion designer clothes, hangs out at fashion shows, wears designer clothes and had a clothing line modeled after him...whats the friggin diff

these people use their images to make money plain and simple ... not one of them is any better or worse than the other...i dont understand why people need to make everything a competition .... its not

so anyway slash does somethign like this for fun and people accuse him of selling out...its not hes doing what he does cuz he enjoys it...he doesnt need to "sell out" hes sold millions and millions of records...what is left to sell?

lets use the words of Maynard James Keenan to close this little rant


 : ok:

neemo, you are another one who can't defend slash without bringing up someone like robin or richard or axl.     you can make your point without bringing in people who are irrelevant to the discussion.

but to answer your question, i think they are different.   if Xtina was coming up on stage with GnR and singing you'd have a point.   and i would have no problem saying I think it sucks christina agulera is on stage with Guns.

I think Xtina would be fucking great in guns....I just watched the other angle version of this performance and if that was Xtina singing instead of Fergie, that woulda been an instant classic.........seen guns n vr 9 x's....saw xtina once at MSG......................her show ranks right up there with the best Gnr and Vr shows I've seen :o i was fucking shocked  :yes:

not defending anyone...i'm just saying that in the entertainement business people use their likeness' voices and talents to please their fans and make money...you cant fault one person for doing it and praise another for the same thing

I'm by no means a fergie fan...i think she's shite to be honest but she didnt do too bad covering the track and i thought slash was amazing on it...

I jsut dont see the big fucking deal to be honest

you say i bring one guy up to defend another...well its obvious that you hate Slash yet you prey on news like this just to hurl insults...let it go bro we know your opinion on the man


yeah she has a great voice...as does linda perry for that matter...i wouldnt be adverse to see either of them trade lines in a song with Ax-man  : ok:

you must not know my opinion, cuz i dont hate the man.  if i did, i wouldnt' be trying to get into his birthday party.    i think he's overrated a bit on these boards but no hate.   most of the frustration stems from people crying for him to be back in GnR and hating on the guys in the band now.   

i'll say it again, i respect and love what he did in the band during his time.   but to me, that chapter has ended and i've moved on and prefer not to look back.   others haven't.

The difference is Linda Perry is a pretty damn well respected songwriter and (rock)singer.  Fergie on the other hand is not.

funny i cant recall a single time that you've complimented Slash..and someone else is always better at performing his songs...and hes a big sellout..and anything he writes is mediocre at best

there are people like me that are fans of both Slash and Axl...but when the scales are tipped so far one way then my initial reaction is to fire back in defense

anyway what i'm tryign to say is that if you constantly critisize someone then expect his (or her) fans to fire back  :peace:


I'm glad you are around to tell people who they can and can't be freinds with and who is cool and who isn't ... and i'm sure Slash will take your opinion to heart as well  ::)

Tell me CB.... grand master of all that is cool.....which is the proper way for Slash to have gone about this?

Question: Fergie - Hey Slash I'm playing a show tonight and would love if you could make an appearance and play a couple tunes with me

Answer A: Slash - Yeah count me in that'll be fun

Answer B: Slash - Um no....i wouldnt be caught dead on the same stage with you...get a life bitch...as if its worth my time to go play 2 songs with your skanky ass...besides Axl's internet fan base will make fun of me if i show up....go fuck yourself

Back to this "Its actually a Linda Perry song, who I might add, is really good friends with Richard." regarding beautiful; it's split w/ linda and Xtina w/ credit; regarding Fergie-who cares if she's not respected as a song writer, she was singing a GnR tune!!  They weren't respected at the time they wrote it :hihi:

Where did I say he couldn't be friends with her? As I said in the other thread, he's probably banging her. I'm just saying, if you are a "bad ass rnr guitarist" like he is marketed as, don't be surprised if people think it's lame that you're playing with people like fergie.

And for jesus sake neemo, stop with the over the top scenarios. You are the fucking king of doing that shit and it's annoying as hell. I never said he had to call her a bitch or anything even close to that. Instead of craving attention, he could turn down some things. But I guess if he ain't on drugs, he has to fill that addiction with something....

you love it  :hihi:  :yes:  :peace:

Slash just isnt the type of guy to turn someone down if they ask him to play...i think its great that he gives people like that the time of day...cuz like you said he could turn them down but think of how cool it would be if you asked someone like him to jam with you and he said OK...i think i would shit my pants

but you must know what its like cuz canadians are terrible for doing it...anyway i know i'm like that.. if someone asks me to help em out with somethign then 9 times outta ten i will go outta my way to lend a hand..unless its going to be phyically impossible to help out...anyway i get the feeling that slash is just happy to give a helping hand...probably to a fault...

to be honest i wish Axl would do more shit like this...how cool would it be to wake up to news that axl showed up on stage with some band or singer...remember teh buzz from the gilby show? that was fuckin great  : ok:

its true that i'm here mostly for GnR discussion and prefer the band the way it is now.   but that doesn't mean i hate him.   I've been on these boards since VMAs 2002, i've given him plenty of compliments.   November Rain solo, his riffs on AFD, his acoustic playing on lies.. 

the first time I saw him perform with micheal jackson in 1992 or 1993, I was rolling my eyes, I hated it.   That aspect of Slash playing with these kinds of artists has never sat well with me, even when he was in the band.   And at that time he was my favorite guitarist.

I only refer to his post-guns material as mediocre, which in my opinion it is!  like i said, most of my frustration comes from the disrespect to GnR.    If I didn't see people coming to these boards and whining for him to go back to GnR on a daily basis, I probably wouldnt' comment much.

Sure I'm a bigger Robin fan, but Slash is in my city tonight and I have nothing else to do, so i'm gonna check it out and I am sure it will be an enjoyable show.

it was written by linda specifically for christina.

and classicgunsfan christina has no credits on that song what so ever.

like i said in the other thread...i hope you get in! and i look forward to a review

but to me...the place that you hold Robin as a fan...Slash and Axl are up there equal with me...yeah i dont necesarily agree with all the moves they make but they are both still brilliant...the rift that the fans have between Axl and slash sucks cuz to me they are equally great..and same with me as with you...someone disrespects them and its hard not to fight back with a comment  :peace:

It doesn't matter who it was written for, it only matters who it was written by.

Jim Bob, I hear ya, have fun tonight.  I know sometimes your thoughts don't come out perfect on this message board, but enjoy your posts, even when they are crazy.  Look forward to the review!

Holy Fuck, Sweet Child, without Slash....... ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JymSsrHNoN0&feature=related

^ she's played a few times before without slash. there was a thread about her singing it a couple months ago. i wonder if slash is playing it now on all of her upcoming shows.

That was horrible.  Horrible. 

I think Fergie sings better than Bubbles.

Grazie. I don't want to watch it.

Ok.....what or who is Bubbles? 

No you don't.

I wasn't talking about Mr Bubbles either - lol (I believe Slash has spoken to MJ about playing with him   :hihi:).

I mean this bubbles:

http://www.gunsnrosesonline.com/images/061107_AxlBubbles_250x188.jpg

She is also a lot easier on the eye than bubbles too  ;)

mmmm.....ok

I don't have any knowledge of that.   In other words, I don't know what you're talking about and I still don't know who or what Bubbles is, but that's ok.   

On the last tour of GN'R to Australia and NZ (and possibly Japan), Bubbles who is from some show called The Trailer Park Boys (it wasn't well known in Oz) was on tour with them and would get up each night and sign a song with Axl.

But don't feel bad for not knowing who he was - the majority of people in Australia didn't know either.  So (IMHO) it went over like a lead ballon (I went to 3 shows on that tour and it was a WTF moment for a lot of people each time).

So my point is I would rather have seen Slash with Fergie than with Bubbles. 

Slash and Mr Bubbles however I think would have a certain chemistry together.   ;D

I think that's definitely debatable.

Somebody stoled the bubbles.  :'(

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/07/23/2008-07-23_bubble_trouble_offbroadway.html

Don't blame the gypsies.  Even gypsies wouldn't stoled bubbles.  :no:

i stand corrected :o
that and one other song were the only ones on the album she didn't have a song writing credit for

its funny how the ppl who dont want a VR section here dont seem to be able to say out of it  ::)

Isn't it though! Btw, the VR section on this board is the only one I really go to.

Well, may be off topic, but I never post. I just read.

But today I?d like to say something. :-)

First of all, Guns were a "part of my life" since i was 13 years old, I?m 30 now...
The first band I ever REALLY loved und love until today was Aerosmith - and I will always love them. Guns were equal to them which is the BIGGEST compliment I could ever make to a band. I?m still sad, that the original band broke up although I would NEVER talk shit about the new line up. I?m just sad about the way it all "ended". I have great a respect for each and every member - past or present - and I will always be interested in what they are doing. And I will always be hoping they are doing fine and are enjoying their lives.
I saw the "New Guns" perform at Novarock in Austria 2006 (well in Austria you don?t get THAT many chances to see your favourite US Artists perform :-) )
and I just freaked out. It was a dream come true to see them and I absolutely LOVED the show and the new songs they performed. And I screamed the shit out of my lungs when Izzy came up to perform (some guy standing next to me asked me, who Izzy was and I just couldn?t believe that!!!!)

But I just HATE to read all of the "bad comments" about Slash or any other Ex-member of the band. I respect him a lot as a musician. And I think that he is called an "icon" not because of his guitar playing but because of his "charisma" in the first place. He has something very special about him, as has Axl.
Both may have made mistakes - as has EVERYBODY. And it?s not up to me to make ANY judgement.

I could say a lot more on THAT topic, but I think it?s a free world and everybody is free to have his/her opinion. But PLEASE don?t be so fucking judgemental about people, most of you don?t know personally. I just hope I?ll never be that way.

As fas as performing with different artists goes. I VERY WELL remember the Superbowl Show Performance of Aerosmith with Nsync and Britney Spears and I just fucking LOVED that show..... you may have your opinion and I have mine - peace!!! :-)))

Open you mind!!!!

There?s nothing bad in my opinion about performing with artists from another "genre". Sorry, but my english is far from perfect, I?m just trying to explain my point of view.

And - by the way - I would be interested to see Slash perform with Nickelback, as I like some of their songs quite a lot. Sorry Jim Bob, don?t kill me. :-)

I wish you all the very best and I hope I will see a Guns show in AUSTRIA real soon. If Slash should decide to come here to perform with ANYBODY, I would be happy as well. PEACE.

Love you all, sleep well, lostdream

"As fas as performing with different artists goes. I VERY WELL remember the Superbowl Show Performance of Aerosmith with Nsync and Britney Spears and I just fucking LOVED that show..... you may have your opinion and I have mine - peace!!! :-)))

Open you mind!!!!"

couldnt agree with you more

so he plays guitar for a friend:P wtf is wrong w/ that? ;)
wtf did he play with Clarkson?

he will at some point in the next year  ;)

 :hihi: 

He fucking better not!! 

I just want to say, "great post, lostdream".   Very good post, I thought.  We all need to open our minds, here, a little more.   

I should go back and apologize to D, for what have seen as a in your face, comment, when wasn't really my intention, .As I can care less whoi slash plays with. My main gripe is I loved his playing so much. I personally feel that as of late and the last few yrs, other when he does work with other artist outsside what band he is in, hes not playing those really bluesy solos, thoe really grab you things, he doesnt with VR, and Ive seem him perform with artists, where he totally goes off. Ahh the memories.. regardless, the fergie thing, yeah a bit inside of me was like ok he actually playing it right.lol I think I woulda preferred the raw aggression when he made fuck ups live on SCOM , buT we cant have everything we want.

Wasn't great but ok.

guess who else aerosmith played with not so long ago...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=RzYCZ7PxWas

ha ha ha

mmh well...

Britney did a better job!

 ;D

Again, nice legs and ass.

not anymore ;D  her ass looks bloated nowadays :yes: