Here Today... Gone To Hell!

TMZ has learned Steven Adler, former drummer for Guns N' Roses, was arrested early this morning
in Hollywood for possession of narcotics, being under the influence and an outstanding warrant.

Adler is still in police custody.

Earlier this month, the 43-year-old rocker told a radio station he was planning on being part of the
cast of "Sober Living," a spin-off of VH1's "Celebrity Rehab." The timing couldn't be better.

SOURCE:
http://www.tmz.com/2008/07/18/guns-n-roses-guitarist-welcome-to-the-pokey/


so much for Celebrity rehab

Well, maybe this is the trigger that finally helps him to change things around for the better. He doesn't need to be on a show like Celebrity Rehab  ::)/Sober Living  for that.  ::) I don't see how that could help him.

Wake up call.  ;)  :)



(They tried to do the same thing to Bach on Supergroup and the result was hilarious! Did you see the look on Nugent's face when Bach came out with the bottle of JD and started to skull!)  :hihi:

No wakeup call... he'll never learn it, it'll be like this until he's dead.

maybe, but one would think a stroke and nearly dieing would be a wakeup call as well...

He knows what I'm talking about.

God Bless you Adler.May you get better soon. I met Adler three years ago, nicest dude in the world, hugging people , sharing Gunners stories, signing, taking pics and playing as if he were in a stadium when there were 500 people there. Some of his old buddies, Slash, Axl, Izzy should step in and help this man.

he doesn't want help. shit have you seen how many people have tried to straighten him out.

he got his face on TV got a bit of money again then went off and got high, same old story.

They've all stepped in.. especially Izzy who Steven is closest to this days.

He even wrote a song about Steven, it's 'TJ' aka Tijuana on his solo album Miami.

Shocker.  Not.

Sad though, what a waste of talent. :no:

I'm afraid everyone has tried to help this guy, only he can make the resolve to really do it.

Ex-Guns N' Roses drummer Steven Adler arrested on drug charges

Police are called to Canyon Drive in Hollywood on a report of a disturbance at a home. Adler was held on charges of possessing narcotics, being under the influence, and for an outstanding warrant.

By Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
9:40 AM PDT, July 18, 2008

Former Guns N' Roses drummer Steven Adler was arrested this morning in Hollywood for alleged drug possession.

Adler, 43, was arrested about 4 a.m. by Los Angeles police called to a home in the 2200 block of Canyon Drive, where a man was reportedly refusing to leave and creating a disturbance, said Los Angeles Police Officer April Harding.

Adler was arrested on suspicion of possessing narcotics and being under the influence, and for an outstanding warrant, Harding said, although she could not say what the warrant was for.

He was jailed on $45,000 bail.

Adler, who has faced drug charges before, drew attention in 1995 when residents alerted police after spotted him suffering from what turned out to be a heroin overdose in his car while parked in a Sherman Oaks neighborhood. He was later charged in connection with the incident.

Adler performed on early Guns N' Roses albums but was fired from the band in 1989. Adler challenged the dismissal in court, where the band's manager testified that Adler's drug addiction led to his firing.

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/jarmo

Well, now, that is a shame.  :no:







Still, this is a chance for rehabilitation. Everyone respects a reformed drug addict. Someone who has beaten the addiction. There's time.

The warrant could be for a traffic fine.





 

As I said before, straight out of Celebrity Rehab and on the road - he had no chance of staying sober.  The road is the very worst place for Steven.  Actually, every place is the very worst place for Steven.  He is so psychologically addicted, it doesn't matter if he physically needs it or not, his psyche demands it.    

From TMZ

UPDATE: The warrant stems from a 2005 case where Adler was charged for being under the influence of a controlled substance and driving on a suspended license. He then sealed his fate by missing a court date in April of 2006.

Oh, right. Yeh, as soon as you don't appear in court they tend to slap warrants on you. The law takes court appearances very seriously. You have to rock up.

Hon - Steven is never going to get clean and the warrant was issued for not showing up in court for the drug arrest and suspended license.  He just can't stop himself from fucking up. 

The guy is a joke !

Sad but true.

The day he gets clean physically and mentally is going to be the same day he dies. 

If he didn't learn by what he already went through, a few more court appearances are not going to make any damn difference at all.

Um, yeh that's what I said. He missed the court date in 2006, technically due to this missed date the police could have issued a warrant for his arrest from this time and charged him. I take it that they didn't arrest him in 2006. So yeh, Bandita, another court appearance probably wouldn't have helped him then, he would have continued driving under the influence due to his addiction.

However, if you "fuck up" again in the same way, the law takes it more seriously. That's why he was arrested this time. I know how The System works.

(.......this is where the law can help!) :)

Good job Steven.

 :(

(http://img101.exs.cx/img101/9024/applause9oh.jpg)

Him and 99.999% of the rest of us!!!

Glad to hear you're perfect.  ::)

What the hell does that mean?  I think she was talking about getting off drugs.  99.999% of us are not drug addicts.

Ali

I have no idea what it means, although perhaps it was more in reference to the "mentally clean" part.   Then again, who am I to say?  Unfortunately, Bandita is most likely right, especially in regards to Steven's physical struggles.

Honestly, I don't know how all the reunion-torch-bearers can keep saying Adler could ever be in the picture again...sheesh.

Yea, ummm, I wasn't talking about sanity but the mental and physical need he has to use drugs.

I am glad that most of you got what I was trying to say.

I am sorry, but 99.999% of the world are NOT heroin addicts who have already been in a coma and had a stroke due to the drugs.  So while I may not be PERFECT, I am not an addict either.

If he didn't learn from those things, why would he learn now, from being arrested.....AGAIN?

I am a BIG proponent of giving people the benefit of the doubt but this guy just has too many strikes against him.

He could have had so much and now he is just a wasted talent, and that is sad. :no:

STEVEN ADLER Makes Bail, Is Released From Police Custody - July 18, 2008

According to the web site of The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, former GUNS N' ROSES drummer Steven Adler was released from police custody at 5:28 p.m. PST today (Friday, July 18) after making bail in connection with his arrest early this morning in Hollywood for possession of narcotics, being under the influence and an outstanding warrant.

Los Angeles police spokesman Richard French told the Associated Press that the 43-year-old Adler was arrested around 4 a.m. Friday by officers called to a home where a man reportedly was creating a disturbance and refusing to leave.

The warrant stems from a 2005 case where Adler was charged for being under the influence of a controlled substance and driving on a suspended license. He then sealed his fate by missing a court date in April of 2006.

Bail was set at $45,000.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=101186

i for one am shocked and stunned by this latest turn of events.

steven needs to get his shit together.


i'm glad this site knows what the former members section is for.  :)

get his shit together? i think homeboy is going to jail.

 is possesion a misdemeanor? or is it a felony when it's hard drugs?

3rd time offender who ditched a court date.. doesn't look good.

sorry to be pessimistic

he wont be in jail forever.   its not too late to turn his life around.

When you say you're shocked are you being sarcastic? If not, then I cannot believe anyone would be shocked by Mr. Adler being arrested on a drug charge. I really do hope that someday he gets it together. You know, if Slash could do it then surely Steven could.

I am fairly certain he is being facetious. :peace:

How many is too many??  HE?S A HUMAN BEING!!!  There isn?t a soul on this planet that doesn?t spend their entire lives fighting off all sorts of temptations and sometimes we fail ? and sometimes we fail again and again and again.

So everything he?s already done with his talent that?s contributed to making this world a better place doesn?t count?


EXACTLY!!!  It?s NEVER too late for anyone!!!


Yes, his situation is very sad BUT it doesn't mean that his life has any less meaning or worthiness than any of the rest of us.

Gypsy, so your answer is to repeatedly coddle those who consistently f%ck up?

Yes, let's baby the man and this way the next time he gets behind the wheel of a vehicle all strung out and maybe kills a family or some children you can come and post how it's not his fault and how we should feel bad for him and give him a million more chances.

Your argument will be he hasn't done this YET....

....YET being the key word.

 :confused:

Adler is still my favorite GNR drummer of all time. I think he was once a bad ass drummer and could have been one of the greats


this is a lesson to all young people that drugs get u nowhere.

I think the Celebrity Rehab show will do him some good. Hell it couldnt hurt.


I like Adler but he blaming his problems on the band just really got on my nerves. I thought on Behind The Music, that exposed his problem. His inability to take responsibility for your own actions


"They took everything from me"

WRONG

u took everything from yourself.

well you clearly haven't seen the fuckin band live then.     :smoking:

Yeh, that Behind the Music thing wasn't very good! 

EDIT:(Slash and Duff said some of the stuff with the biggest smiles on their faces)  ;)

Steven was very open about his state of health though.  :peace:

............It was made at a time when the band weren't really talking to eachother.




Yep, drugs really, really suck, in a really really bad way. Stay far away from them.  :rant:

Ritz 1988 still probably the best GNR show ever.


Adler's drumming is as hooky and melodic as the vocals/guitars on Appetite



Oh yeah, i forgot, anyone that picks up a pair of sticks can come up with those beats. my fault.


Hell, I'll go buy a drum set and lay down some of the greatest drum tracks ever tomorrow in about 10 minutes

Piece of cake! ::)

go see Brain play drums and try telling me all that again with a straight face.

Can I?



You obviously don't play the drums, then. To make the beat that he makes and then hit the cowbell at the same time is a tricky thing to do. He moves the sticks over the kit so effortlessly.


EDIT: Hmm, I wonder who taught Steven to play the drums? His style is very similar to the guy in The Police......

No problem, I've seen Brain and Frank but I still agree with D on this one.

dude adler is such a washed-up has been who can't get off the smack  : ok:

go look up the latest adler's appetite performances.

and before you go saying Steven can come up with beats and Brain can't, educate yourself on it.   his skills were way beyond anything he ever did with GnR.

I agree.. still my favorite drummer too.

It's funny cause I'm currently reading the Slash bio again and Slash says that was a good show but not great, there Axl had some vocal problems and the show was a bit of out-of-tune.

All things considered, I think it just kicks ass :P  Just take a look at the Outta Get Me intro, the energy level can't be much higher there 8)

I dont give a shit how fucked up adler is now.


Thats where u go wrong Jim Bob

U try to justify all your old GNR hate by saying "what have they done lately?"

Who gives a shit. their legacy will forever be cemented regardless if they ever play again


Question

Has Brain ever come up with a more famous drum beat than the beat in Paradice City or You Could be mine? I THINK NOT!

Jim Bob, u are someone who could really use a GNR lesson. U need to go back and listen to the Cd's and pay attention to everything goin on that isnt Axl.  Leave your biased hater shit at the door and u might just learn something about how important and how great these guys contributions are.


Rocket Queen drumming, Brownstone, That breakdown in WTTJ.  Superb amazing drumming.

i don't need a GnR lesson, i know the history.

the world does not end at GnR.   Check out Praxis, Primus, some of the other stuff Brain has done.  IMO its far superior to anything Adler ever did.

Jim Bob

seriously, you lost all credibility u will ever have on this forum when u called Slash "overrated" and just a run of the mill guitar player.


I feel my stress level rise everytime i read what u write, so its like I dont even want to argue cause all i end up is getting pissed off over some dude I dont even know spewing a bunch of horse shit.

First, just want to say that I'm sorry to hear about Adler's arrest  - very sad situation, indeed.   He's, obviously, a very troubled man.   

Now - on to other things -

Rim Job,  I've noticed that every time someone says that they think Slash is the greatest or Adler was and could have been, you seem to get all offended, and start pointing out how much better Brain, Buckethead, Finck, etc is.  I just want to say that it's ok if people like drummers or guitarists who aren't part of the current/more recent GnR line up.   Really.  It is.

 

     

   

 

   

   

How did this thread even deteriorate this way?

As in who is a more talented drummer?


But this is what I was saying on the previous pages, Steven COULD have had it all and instead he chose to throw it all away.

He already did the Celebrity rehab show. Obviously it didnt work for him....

Which is why he has his *second* rehab show lined up already.   I doubt he's doing it for the exposure (sarcasm).

get used to the fact that not everyone will share your opinions.   you take it too fucking seriously if you are getting mad  :rofl:

it will gave him more money, everytime he gets money he seems to blows it on drugs.

That makes no sense, GNR is not fuckin Dream Theater.Since when was GNR all about technical wizardry? No GNR drummer has the feel that Adler does.

Get better Steve! You have tons of fans and friends who wish the best for you.

I really don't think we have to insult past members to have a love for the current band, ahem, jimbob?

Steven is a mess and maybe I am a cynic when I say he will probably never clean up but that doesn't mean I don't wish it to be so.

I have seen this band live at least once in virtually every incarnation they have had except for the Tracii Gunns era.  Everyone has a right to an opinion but I think some on this board tend to get their opinions confused with facts.

This isn't Dream Theater or Rush, this is GNR and they play Rock N Roll and they play it well, always have, always will.

 :peace:

I'm not an expert on addiction, but when you say you're sober and stopped using drugs, is it a good idea to still be smoking pot?

From interviews with Steven it seems like he's often saying he's not using drugs yet he's happy to talk about smoking pot.


I remember one where he was talking about going to Amsterdam to take part in the Cannabis Cup or something.


Obviously the rehab visits haven't worked.  :(


/jarmo

Some people don't consider pot a "real" drug I guess since in some places it is used for medical reasons.

To me it's sort of like saying you quit drinking Vodka but you still drink beer. 

Doesn't make much sense really.

18-Jul-08

Eddie Trunk on Steven Adler's Drug Arrest

Sad the hear the news that Steven Adler has once again had a run in with the law and illegal substances. I've had Steve on the radio show in the past and interviewed him each of the last two years at Rocklahoma. Seems like every time I speak to him he's coming out of yet another rehab stint, which obviously means what he's doing is not working. That was kind of the theme of this interview I just did with him at Rocklahoma which is about a week old! I truly hope this guy once and for all gets the help he needs. Not sure how long he can possibly continue without it and on this path. Get well soon Steven, for good, we are all rooting for you!

ET

Watch the EXCLUSIVE Video of Eddie and Steven Adler from last week's Rocklahoma Event

http://www.eddietrunk.com/index.cfm/pk/view/cd/NAA/cdid/402695/pid/401816

I think if he's had a stroke or two it helps to ease muscle spasms BUT  there are other and more healthy means of pain relief. Massage, hot baths....get those natural endorphins happening!  : ok:

Heroin is used for medical reasons. It's not about that.

Pot doesn't kill. It doesn't make you fly off the bat. All it really does is make you lazy, and that's not really a problem for a guy living on royalties.

People don't get clean, they just rid one or two of the worst addictions. You'll still be eating burgers, smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee if you get 'clean'. It's just stuff to keep you sane when you most of all want to go back to the smack. Replacements.

If you got a problem with alcohol you quit consuming it. Beer is still alcohol. Pot is not heroin.

In his case I wouldn't recommend it of course. The psychological connotations are too big. But substituting a hard drug for something more mellow is not necessarily a bad thing. Worked for me.

Are you talking about when heroine is administered in a hospital for pain (or cancer) and motor vehicle injuries? Isn't it called morphine then?

Also, why are heroin addicts given morphine? Is that because it's a more controlled substance. By that I mean purer than say being forced to roam the streets looking for a hit?

Is that the reason why?

really I just lke upsetting D :)   I dont really care about most of the past members one way or the other.   

and that works both ways.    people like D insult GnR members to show his love for former members.    i actually hope Steven gets better.



if pot is all he was doing, there wouldn't be much to worry about other than some laziness and munchies.   i'll smoke it but would never touch harder drugs.

 :confused:


Ahem, Jim Bob you do know that this is a Guns N' Farkn' Roses Board, don't you?!!

yup, and Guns N' Roses = Axl, Dizzy, Robin, Richard, Ron, Tommy, Brain/Frank, and Chris  :)     the band i'm interested in and care about.   I also like to follow what Izzy and Buckethead are doing, hence my reason for being in the ex-members section.   and i do wish steven well.

spare me the rant you are about to go on about the past

Well....... best be careful when the other "ex-members" that you haven't mentioned happen to be in the same thread.

No rant. That's all I'll say.  :)

^yet you do feel the need to troll the vr section I wonder why...

There ya go Jim Bob, saying stuff to piss off and cause an argument

that shit is called being a troll. Funny how nobody ever calls u out on that shit


I have never INSULTED a GNR member to defend the old

I give my honest opinion on Robin Finck who I think is an average guitar player *That is my opinion based on what I believe* i dont say it to piss people off. I have never insulted any other member, hell not even Chris Pittman. Why is that? cause I like and think every member of GNR are awesome except for Robin who I just dont dig his style of guitar playing.

Also, this is an argument just as if we were having a sports argument.

It would be like me saying Freddy Adu is better than Pele in Futbol/soccer or Kobe Bryant is better than Micheal Jordan

statments like this can be backed up with facts.  U check Slash's resume, u check Robin's resume and u get a 10 second 1st round TKO. Thats just the facts dude and it isnt me saying anything to intentionally "Piss" someone off as u do by spewing the stuff u do.


Adler is my favorite drummer and only one of a handful I care about. The problem I have with your comments are the fact that we havent heard Brain drum one GNR album and hell is he even stilll in the band?

THere is just an enormous difference in writing SCOM and someone else "Playing" SCOM.  I think most dont realize how rare and hard it is to write some all time greatests in the history of music stuff.



Adler is a junkie and I take great offense to people talking shit about STeve like he only did the show for exposure or to make money.  If u watch it, u will hear Dr Drew describe how hard addiction is to overcome and how most cant. It seems he just gave in again.

Smoking Pot, drinking alcohol to me are all bad and horrible ideas if u area  junkie and the sad thing is, he is at the age now where its almost getting too late. u would think he would've figured it out by now.

you use fame to justify greatness.   I think people can have the opinion that someone is better than someone else even though they are less famous.   

more of the same babbiling from D.  the usual.   everything he said in the post above he's said millions of times.    you aren't going to change anyone's opinion so get used to the fact that not everyone on a GnR site is going to give a shit about your precious overrated slash.

STEVEN ADLER Claims He's 'Innocent', Gets Sent Back To Rehab; Video Available - July 19, 2008

TMZ.com has posted video footage of former GUNS N' ROSES drummer Steven Adler ? who was arrested for drugs and an outstanding warrant yesterday ? exiting the LAPD (Los Angeles Police Department) Hollywood station with his bail bondsman after being released from police custody at 5:28 p.m. PST on Friday (July 18).

"In conjunction with Dr. Drew Pinsky, who is the owner of the Las Encinas rehab center [in Pasadena, California], we're about to ? hopefully with Steven Adler's co-operation ? escort him to Las Encinas to check him in to begin a hopefully positive rehab stay," the bondsman told the TMZ cameraman before bailing Adler out. "If he resists, I've been authorized to re-arrest him and take him forthwith back to L.A. County jail downtown and re-book him into the County jail system, 'cause I can't do it here at the police department. So my fingers are crossed that he's gonna be a willing and co-operative defendant."

Video: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=101223

 :o are you sure that's Steve?

yep thats him.

Guns N Roses doesn't owe Steven anything he lots of chances. He's the one that fucked up. Sad but I am guessing he will never get his shit together. At this point jail is probably the best thing for him. Maybe then he will stop living in the past.

There's another video there besides the Steven one of Travis Barker saying he thought Steven was the best drummer for GN'R, there were only two but he was the best ;D

I guess Travis barker hasn't been following the band lately.

Travis is an amazing drummer and maybe he just prefers Steve to Matt.

i prefer steve to matt..   i was referring to how he thinks there were only two GnR drummers when theres been 5.

It can be actually - the reason its tolerated so much in Amsterdam - apart from the toursit ?? it attracts is that it helps people stay away from harder drugs and ex-hard drug junkies stay off the smack. I know people personally who are ex-junkies who smoke pot as its the one thing that can really help in terms of not going back to the hard stuff. I think most of the time when people re-lapse its down to who there hanging around with at the time - wasnt Adler hanging around with other musicians who take hard drugs?

"Sober" Dime Dropped on G n'R Drummer

Posted Jul 25th 2008 2:12PM by TMZ Staff

When Guns 'n' Roses drummer Steven Adler decided to try and kick his drug habit by joining the "Sober Living" house, he certainly couldn't have imagined it would land him in the klink.

Sources close to the production say after a "confrontation" in the house, a member of the "Sober" staff called the cops, who came and popped Adler on an outstanding warrant.

His own peeps tell us the staff called the fuz because Adler was allegedly doing drugs in the house.

David Weintraub, Steven's manager, told TMZ, "Steven Adler's arrest was an unfortunate situation that didn't have to occur in the context of him starring in a television show."

No response from VH1.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/07/25/sober-dime-dropped-on-gnr-drummer/

so is this an additional arrest that just happened?

that would be awesome if they showed it on the TV show.

Why is Steven such a fuck up?

I think this is from the July 18th arrest.

If true...it may be on the show?

Adler....what a waste of fucking life..thats right keep defending him every time I rip him and i will continue to be proven right....give me Sorum,Brain or Ferrer any day of the week over this fucking clown...hell give me Josh Freese over this joke....


YEAH steve lets plan a multi-million dollar reunion tour around your dumb ass...and rely on you!!  keep fucking dreaming...we all know Matt Sorum would be the one to get that phone call if that ever happened...and hes a huge douche as well...but at least he is reliable...and wont throw it all away

So, they must be recording the shows that will air in October, then.  I wonder if they'll be including all the drama, in the show.  Would be interesting to see. 

Plus, just my two cents worth - I don't really care for Adler, either, mainly because of his "poor me" attitude about his being ousted from the band - 18 yrs ago - and he supposedly, pretty much, signed himself out, on his own, because he didn't bother to read the fine print.  However, I don't think it's fair to call him a waste of fucking life.  He's an addict, and that can't be an easy road to try and get off of.  I'm not trying to make excuses for him, either, but I'm just saying that he's not able to completely sober up - for whatever reason.  No one is a waste of fucking life.         

Izzy would never go for a reunion without Steve.

Just saying.

From X17online

Former Guns N' Roses drummer (and Celebrity Rehab "star") Steven Adler and his lawyer Barry Sands were at a hearing in Los Angeles yesterday, regarding Steven's recent drug related arrest.

Prior to the hearing, Steven told X17 cameras he was nervous, but looking to move on and sober up. He added that he had relapsed after 37 days, but that he's been sober for 7 days now. Baby steps, right? After the hearing was over, the aging rocker's attorney said that the court date was moved to August 20, and his client hasn't been charged with a crime. Let's hope he stays clean!

Photos and video: http://x17online.com/celebrities/steven_adler/guns_n_rehab-07262008.php

Izzy still plays shows with GNR without Slash, Duff, or Steve....in any event...there is no need for a reunion because GNR have a full lineup ready to release "Chinese Democracy"...I was simply brining up this delusion Steve has about a reunion tour...

I totally hear you dude.  I was fortunate enough to see Izzy 3 times with Axl.

But for a full blown reunion with the 5 guys, Izzy wouldn't do it with Matt.  One of the reasons he left in '91 was because Steven was gone.

If it's with Gilbert and Matty, people will write it off as a "cash grab."

The AFD lineup will never play together.

Ever.

I agree with the "Ever" part for sure!! Definately not ever. :(

Quick question

did Steven write the You Could Be Mine drum riff or did Sorum?

Some say Adler, but then I read an article in modern drummer where Sorum explains how he came up with the fill.  The intro is a rip off of Moby Dick.

In the GN'R Greek docu there's Matt saying in front of the camera that Duff came up with the intro drum riff

as long as its Axl, Slash, and Duff...nobody will be calling it a "cash grab."  that Illusion tour line-up with gilby and matt was sick...stadiums were full without Izzy and Steven...i will go as far as to say as long as its Axl and Slash in the band ...people will gladly call it a reunion tour...no matter who is on bass, drums or rhythm guitar

Hired guns, that's all they were.

ajAJAJJAJAJAJAJAAJAJaJaJAJAJA yeah hired guns oooooooookkkkkkkkkkk

They weren't?

Some transcription of my earlier post...

STEVEN ADLER: 'I've Got SLASH, DUFF, IZZY And AXL Behind Me; I've Got Their Prayers' - July 28, 2008

Former GUNS N' ROSES drummer Steven Adler and his lawyer Barry Sands attended a court hearing in Los Angeles on Friday (July 25) regarding Steven's recent drug-related arrest. (See video from X17 below.)

Prior to the hearing, Steven told X17 cameras he was nervous, but looking to move on and sober up.

"I'm feeling much better," he said. "I made a recent mistake. I had a relapse after 37 days. I just wanna take care of this and move on. I'm back to seven days sober, so I wanna keep that going ? seven days, seven weeks, seven months, seven years. It's the first day of the rest of my life right now. I wanna keep the sobriety going and keep my health going. I'm just glad I've got my friends behind me. I've got Slash behind me, Duff, Izzy, Axl? [they're] all behind me. I've got their prayers."

After the hearing was over, the 43-year-old rocker's attorney said that the court date was moved to August 20, and his client hasn't been charged with a crime.

Steven added, "The bottom line is, I made a mistake, I relapsed. You've gotta pay for your mistakes, and I'm just paying for it. And whatever I have to do to take care of this to keep this in the past so I can move on to the future, I'll do it."

When asked what advice he had for young rockers who may be going through a similar ordeal while struggling to maintain a music career, Adler replied, "Have your loved ones videotape you using and then watch it when you're sober or not using and seeing how terrible you look and terrible you act, and I'm pretty sure that'll help you not wanna use anymore."

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=101711

No one is more obsessed with the AFD GnR than Steven Adler.

No matter what, I wish him the best at maintaining his sobriety!

I can't help but root for the underdog. 

I know I'm stupid for pulling for Steven, but I really hope he can stay off drugs.

no i dont think they were...Matt recorded 3 albums with GNR...Steven did 1 and a half albums...Matt Sorum REPLACED Steven Adler on drums..he was not a hired hand brought in to fill in for a while...

Golly, I must have a bootleg copy of Live Era.  It said Steven was a member of Guns N' Roses, but Clarke and Sorum were merely "additional musicians."

Oh!  I have the same amount of writing credits as Sorum and Clarke.  What a world.

I remember I read somewhere that they were gonna let Matt play on the album at first and that would be it.

Anyways, Matt played on UYI and had to learn the songs but pretty much all the drum track arrangements were already there.. he just played on the album.

At the end of Slash's bio he said among the reasons he quit (which weren't musical direction btw) was also the fact that Steven and Izzy were gone and it just wasn't the same anymore. Even Matt said that the succes with VR was more fulfilling cause it was his first real band he started from the start cause in The Cult and VR he was just hired.

Quoted For Truth.

Also, the plan was to have Matt record drum parts, but to have Steven back for the UYI tour.

really? never heard this before, so if adler cleaned up his act, he would have been brought back in ?

the way they FIRED steven was really, to me, sayin he's out  :'(

yes really, i think axl or slash said that in some interview,

ive was listening to GNR before you were born...so I dont need the history lesson...Steven Adler was FIRED...Sorum was not a hired gun to replace Adler for the time being..Adler was OUT and Sorum was in...and its funny you mention Live Era..because Matt plays drums on just about every song on that record...Matt was also a part of the making of the yet to be released "Chinese Democracy" until he had a falling out with Axl...so it appeared as though the band was going on with him in the line-up..i didnt hear of them making any calls to the local homeless shelter to see what Steven was up to...

thats definitely false...they gave Steven a settlement of around 2 million or something to cut all ties with the GNR name and future money making opportunities....

Wasn't the settlement the $2 mil PLUS any future royalties due him?


Good to hear that he got right back on the wagon.  : ok:

yup.. that was when he really got fired, before that they tried every possible way to get him clean and originally hired matt as a studio musician then adler just couldn't get clean so he was fired for real and then the stuff you just said happened and matt was hired as a fulltime member, wich later became "former employee" in the notes of the Live Era album

Listen old man, maybe you need to pay more attention to what actual members/former members of Guns N' Roses say.  I know you absolutely loooooooove Matt Bore 'em, but the original plan was to have Steven back so they could all tour together. 

haha old man.....

no seriously  I dont love Matt Sorum...i just hate Steven Adler...I have zero respect for anyone who squanders their talent and almost derails the biggest band in the world...I dont repect junkies who cant keep their shit together and let drugs run their lives...Slash was strung out for most of GNR's run during that time...and he kept his shit together enough to be able to cut the tracks and perform the shows...Matt Sorum may have had drug problems...but he never allowed it to derail his career or performance...plus he is just a better drummer...

i believe those royalties were song writing and musician royalties on Appetite and Lies...which is chicken shit compared to the merchandise, touring and all future business GNR were going on to....he blew it...

He's stated a few years ago (2004, 2005?) that even the AFD royalties alone he can live off, everyone in original GN'R can today live of the royalties that AFD generated, besides all the other income from other sources. Money wise Adler's not the richest of the band ofcourse but he's not doing that bad.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/08/20/gnr-drummer-debuts-cry-nese-democracy/

Oh my god - poor Stevie is crying cuz he has to stay in rehab, like he doesn't need it.  And then blaming it on the VH1 crew for having him arrested cuz he was using in the sober living house.  As usual, blaming everyone but himself.  Such a waste.   :confused:

Whether, or not, Adler was using in treatment center is irrelevant. If he was violating the rules, he should have been booted from the facility. When they contacted law enforcement, they probably violated his patient confidentiality.

To me, this just shows that Dr. Drew is nothing more than a media whore that puts his celebrity status above the health of his patients. I hope the licencing board of Cali. investigates this quack.

And, for the judge to give him an ultimatum of returning to the place that cares so little for a patient's well being, or go to jail, is just despicable. He should have chosen jail ... at least the care would have been better.

He wasn't using in rehab, he was using in the sober living house.  And when you enter a sober living house you have to agree not to bring drugs or alcohol into/onto the premises.  Additionally, when Adler is loaded (especially on crack or speedballs) he is incredibly abusive, agressive and violent - they did the right thing.  His doctor/patient privileges were not violated in any way shape or form - and really, even if he were in rehab if he became violent the police can be called and he could have been transferred to the medical/psych ward of the jail. 

And all the boohooing over loosing the money he got paid to do the show - who's the whore here - Adler or Dr. Drew or both? 

^^Both.

To answer your hypothetical ... If anyone is in a rehab, and they become abusive, chemical restraints should be the preferred option ... not the man. They are professional, and as professionals, they have an obligation to protect all patient's confidentiality. To do otherwise, invites court action.

At least Steven still has a bit of sense of humor: I got a chuckle out of the part where Steven crosses himself when mention of Chinese Democracy comes up.    ;D

Sad, sad, sad.   He is.  Sigh.

"cry-nese democracy", huh?   :hihi:

I understand your point, but, sober living is not rehab and Steven was at the sober living house, not Las Encinas, the rehab facility.  You go the sober living house to live with other sober people in an effort to stay sober.  There are house leaders, but they are not doctors/nurses and do not administer drugs.  They may give drug tests that are sent off-site for testing, but that's about it.  And according to court documents Steven brought drugs into the sober living house which is a really big no-no in the sober living community.  Additionally, when asked to leave he would not and became beligerent - in an effort to maintain some sort of sanity, they called the cops.  Don't get me wrong, I think the cops are the biggest legal gang on the planet, but Steven totally had the choice of leaving the house or facing the authorities.  Unfortunately, Steven is not the sharpest tool in the shed, he should have just left. 

Forgive my ignorance, but do you know something that the rest of us don't?

I'm sorry, I was not trying to say you were ignorant, I had been following the story and the LAPD reported the following:

"Los Angeles police spokesman Richard French told the Associated Press that the 43-year-old Adler was arrested around 4 a.m. Friday by officers called to a home where a man reportedly was creating a disturbance and refusing to leave."

It was later reported that it was the sober living house in the Hollywood Hills, I believe on Canyon, that he was at.  At his last Court appearance Steven was ordered by the Judge to return to Las Encinas for further rehab treatment rather than returning to the sober living house. 

And I know about the sober living circumstances because a vry close family member of mine transitioned through rehab to sober living and back out into the "real" world.