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Who is goin at Midnight tonight to see this?


Post your reviews, reactions, how great Heath Ledger is etc etc


I personally hated Batman Begins, thought it was boring but I've been anticipating the Dark Knight since Heath Ledger signed on as the Joker.


Cant wait!

I'm not just yet. Don't have the money at the moment plus its gonna be a mob scene the first several days. I'll see it soon though. How could you think Batman Begins was boring though?  :o

I watched it and just found myself thinking "is this shit ever gonna end?

I dont like Christian Bale, I think he is dry as toast, Batman is the shittiest super hero as he really isnt a super hero and Batman Begins had the worst villain probably in superhero movie history.

The soundtrack was perfect!  :yes:

Ah well to each their own. I hope i enjoy the dark knight as much as i did batman begins.

That is it... U are banned from buy and listenin to Chines Democracy for life :rant:

isnt the dark knight like twice as long?

2 hours 35 minutes, I think.   I'm looking forward to every second of it.

  He's the only one that isn't a fucking  nerd in real life, and doesn't rely on so-called "super powers" to catch the bad guys. Not to mention the pussy he gets...
   That makes him the coolest super hero in my book



   Can't wait to see The Dark Knight, it seems disturbingly brilliant

Batman's my favorite hero....

My wife and I are going Friday night.  From the reviews I've read so far, it's a brilliant movie.  Very true to the darker comic book roots....and much more true to the detective nature of the comics.

If Batman Begins was one of the stories out of "Batman", then "The Dark Knight" is straight out of "Detective Comics".

Batman is a rich boy with tools but has no power whatsoever.


For the Comic Nerds, If u ever check out The Justice League, They always have to save Batman's ass.

Iron Man just rich with money, but highly intelligent.

Yeah, I always saw IronMan as maybe a cockier Bruce Wayne.

I got tickets to the 12:01 showing.

I'm looking forward to it. I still dont get why some people loved Batman Begins, though it is one of the best Batman fims (especially of the last decade), its still not a very good film.

I respectfully disagree.   I am a bit biased, however, as I've been a huge fan of Christopher Nolan ever since Memento.  The cast, the storytelling, etc., were all top-notch in Batman Begins.  My only complaint was that it *had* to be an origin story (again), even though I understood the rationale behind it, and the action scenes were too close up and fast paced to sometimes follow the actual movements themselves.

Without the origin baggage, I'm thrilled to see The Dark Knight tomorrow.  Even better, Nolan's doing it "old school" with real explosions and stunts rather than relying on the lazy-man's CGI, and his cast is again phenomenal.  I'm trying not to let the hype get to me, but my expectations are substantial at this point.  I don't think I'll be disappointed.

Batman Begins to me was horrible but I am very excited for this one

Not sure If I am gonna hit the midnight showing or wait till the morning

I love movies with Popcorn etc

and I cant see myself wolfing down corn at midnight............

Ah wait til morning. I'm sure even though its midnight its gonna be PACKED.

Okay, just got back from a midnight showing and here is my honest review:

First off let me say, I think it's absolutely shit that this film is going to get this giant aura around it due to Heath Ledger's death.  It's like by him dying, people are going to think this is a modern day Grapes of Wrath and think they must absolutely see it because.......well he died after making it so it must be good.

He was shit in this movie.  The writing sucked, the acting sucked (and I usually enjoy Christian Bale) and it was just a cluster fuck.  To put it simply, I think it was ultimately one of the most banal movies I've seen in this genre.

-Give me the two Tim Burton Batman films anyday.  They presented a deep dark feel, plus kept the comic touch.  These new DC adaptions as of late (Superman/Batman) are being promoted as "looking into the dark side of the true essence of the characters."  No, it's playing into the true douchebagery of the current movie going chimps.

You do know that Heath is going to be nominated for an Oscar by The Academy don't you?

Once again read the first part of my post..........I think it's absolute shit that this movie is going to get applauded on the fact that Heath Ledger died right after finishing it.  I'll be honest to say I think Ledger was probably the second best thing in the movie behind Harvey Dent (up until he became Two Face and got that retarded looking makeup job).......but that's not saying much.  I thought the movie was utter shit, my opinion.   Of course Ledger's going to be nominated for an Oscar.....everyone loves happy endings. 

I do want to see Ledger's performance


I dont recommend seeing movies at Midnight unless u are a night owl

I Mean midnight, 2 and a half hour movie.....


Id be sleepy as fuck tryin to sit through a long ass movie at that time of night.

Which is why Im waiting till today to see it


I think Christian Bale as I said is totally overrated and a boring ass actor and if Ledger wasnt in it *Who I truly loved way before his death* I wouldnt even bother with it.

The movie is going to be applauded because of Heath's amazing, awesome, mindblowing acting. Full Stop.

There are people who have followed the story of the "Dark Night" for a long time.

With all due respect to Bill's opinion. :peace:

I just saw it tonight and loved it. I am not a fan of Heath Ledger by any means but I thought he was just amazing as the Joker. Believe the hype. This movie is as good as the reviews state. Just my two cents.

Can u compare it to Nicholson's?

I know its a different take etc

As you stated, completely different take so its hard to compare.
The whole way Christopher Nolan filmed this series is that it could be real, so Ledgers take on the Joker is less comical and more a mentally fucked up person that just wants to see people suffer for his own amusement.

Both great performances, but I prefer Ledgers take. He is doing these horrible things ("I'm going to make this pencil disappear") yet he has these moments of clarity where you think, "This guy is making sense".

Awesome

and thanks for no spoilers

Im going at 1pm to watch this today.

I may give Batman Begins another watch also

Ive learned sometimes u can watch a movie in the wrong mood or something and it fucks it up. I remember being so depressed that I didnt laugh at Dumb And Dumber one time first time i saw it.


So After Dark Knight, if I think it kicks ass, I may go back and rent Batman Begins and give it another watch.

I loved Batman Begins. If it suffered from anything it was that it had to establish the characters. Now that we know who Bruce Wayne is and what makes him tick, The Dark Knight can jump right in and establish the new characters without wasting time, which it does. Almost to the point where Christian Bale isnt the star of the movie, just a part of an ensemble.

Oldman is terrific, Gyllenhaal is a huge upgrade over Holmes (Duh) but the character could still use more to do. Caine and Freeman do their thing spot on as normal. Aaron Eckhardt is great as Dent also, but this movie belongs to Ledger, whether he was alive today or not.

I think my problem was, I really really love Tim Burton's "Batman"  Just the first one and I guess I had a hard time seperating the two and accepting Batman Begins as a brand new movie and take.

I'm still not a big scarecrow fan

The Joker however is the best superhero villain by far in my opinion.

Anybody felt Nolan was ripping off 'Heat' in the opening heist? If so, was it good?

Other than it being a bank heist, I dont see any other similarities.

Others might disagree, but I didn't see that at all.  It was a great scene, overall. 

I don't know, haven't seen it yet. A lot of talk about it on the Heat board though. Especially the music and photography (that grey/blueish sterile style).

And of course the fact that Nolan himself said he was inspired by the movie while making DK.

I love "Heat" but that thought never crept into my mind watching that scene. If he was going to use any movie as inspiration though, I'm glad it was that one.

Okay so now that I realize it......I may have been a little hard on Heath last night.  I guess what really pissed me off was standing outside and hearing the drones of idiots going, "Oh man, Heath is going to have the greatest onscreen appearance ever, he's the greatest."  C'mon...where were these people when he was playing in that god awful Brother's Grimm movie three years ago.

Heath did okay in his portrayal of the Joker.  The characters were lacking in many ways and that was on the hands of the writers.  Batman came off as ultimately weak in this movie. 

It was okay for me, nowhere near living up to the hype that is surrounding it.  The action was decent, but nothing more than a good summer popcorn flick.  Batman used to be my favorite superhero.....and the two Tim Burton films did so much to turn that comic into a real life masterpiece.  They had everything in them. 

I still love the Tim Burton films, these new ones just work better for me. Cant really explain it.

I was like you also, I was getting tired of hearing how great Ledger was when nobody had seen the film yet. All of a sudden the guy was Marlon Brando. However I think he did live up to the hype.  We'll just agree to disagree : ok:

The creepy physical mannerisms and nuances of speech that Ledger's portrayal brought to the character are truly unique, and a testament to his abilities as an actor.     He completely lost himself in the role.   I, too, was getting over-hyped by the press, and was expecting to be let down as a result.   Personally, I'm thankful that it wasn't the case.  Whether or not it lives up to the hype is up to you, but me, I thought it was fantastic.

One thing I will say, however, is that the film is far too complex and thematically dark to be simply relegated to "popcorn movie" or "summer flick" status.   It really does raise expectations for what can be accomplished within the superhero genre.

Im about to go see this in an hour

I think sometimes audiences can have a negative impact on viewing a movie also, which is why I usually wait a few weeks so i can see it virtually alone.

I remember hating Spiderman 3 mainly due to the audience runing it. Everytime Peter would do something they'd shout and make some stupid remarks, like at the end when he is cryin and goin on over Harry, the crowd behind us were laughing their ass off and it just ruined it.

I find it difficult to truly get into a movie when every seat is filled and u got people u dont know sitting beside u and its packed in front and behind u......

i need some space.

I went and saw the midnight showing last night. I think I need to see the movie again before I base my final opinion. Every seat in the theater was filled, and all the geeks and fanboys really got on my nerves, clapping after scenes and shouting "Oh, my God!" anytime the Joker or Batman did something cool. I missed several lines of dialogue due to their stupid outburts.

The Dark Knight is definitely the best movie I've seen this year (though that's not saying much considering some the crap that's come out this year). Ultimately, however, I felt letdown by the movie. I still feel really unsatisfied about it. It's still an amazing movie, for the most part, but I think it had potential to be one of the greatest of all time.

At about the halfway point in the film I was seriously thinking, this is going to be one of my favorite movies ever. The movie doesn't feel anything like a superhero or comic book movie. I guess that's why it's being compared to Heat and The Untouchables instead of Iron Man or Spider-Man. The Dark Knight is a crime movie; it just so happens that the good guy dresses in a bat costume and the villian as a clown. Because the mood of the film is so dark and intense, the carnage so unrelenting, the violence unsettling (though all the really grisly stuff happens off screen), that it feels like an R-rated film. This is not some fun, light-hearted, summer popcorn movie--- This is a serious drama.

I still prefer Jack Nicholson's portrayal as the Joker to Heath Ledger's. Always when I think of the Joker, I think of the way Jack played him, which is the way the Joker is supposed to be played, in my opinion. That's how he always was in the cartoons I watched as a kid: always laughing, joking, dancing, playing with false chattering teeth and other toys--- yet still just as menancing and evil. With that said, Heath Ledger's performance is incredible, and all the praise is much-deserved. His portrayal stands on its own, and his version of the Joker is a better fit for Nolan's darker vision than a Jack Nicholson-like portryal would have been. The Joker makes this movie. Christian Bale and Aaron Eckhart, along with everyone else the movie, really take a backseat to Heath's performance. The Joker steals this movie; he's mesmerizing to watch, so creepy and disturbing and insane, doing so many horrible things, yet you can't take your eyes off him. He seriously gave me chills in a few scenes. When he isn't on screen, you still feel his presence, and you can't wait for him to return. Heath's performance is what elevates this movie to such a high standard.

Unfortunately, however, we don't see as much as of the Joker in the last act of the movie, since another villian comes into the picture--- And that's really when I feel the film loses everything it's been building toward. I really felt let down and unsatisfied by the last 30 minutes or so. Several things happen near the end of the movie that I didn't agree with, decisions are made (or not made) that I wish had been different. I hate the whole goddamn sonar shit or whatever it was, where Batman could see everything happening in Gotham based on the phones calls and communication. Morgan Freeman's stance on the abuse of technology is so obviously political commentary on the Patriot Act. The movie's suddenly saying "it's okay to take away people's privacy and to spy on people when there's someone as evil as The Joker (or Osama Bin Laden) on the loose." I also hate the whole "will the boats blow up one another?" scene. And then there's the whole thing with Batman seeing everything through the digital blue screen, like he's Neo from the Matrix or something.

I don't want to give away anything about Harvey Dent, but let's just say I don't like how they handled his character near the end of the movie. I also wish the final confrontation between the Joker and Batman had had a little more oomph to it--- although I have to say that I absolutely loved the Joker's whole upside-down monologue. That was great stuff. Batman and the Joker had a better altercation in the original Batman movie than they do in The Dark Knight, however.

The "twist," if you want to call it that, at the very end of the movie was kinda cool, I guess, though I was still frustrated with everything they'd just botched. I'm actually really interested in the premise of the third movie now, based on how this one ended.

My overall opinon of the movie is that it was on it way to greatness, but stumbled just as it neared the finish line.

That is a really insightful point to make.
Hats off to him. RIP.

The sonar shit pissed me off too. I dont get why he was using it when he was fighting the joker. Morgan Freeman could easily have given him instructions, or he could have included an on/off function.

Besides that, the only the thing I didnt like was Harvey's cgi face. It just looked cartoony, and not very scary at all. It woulda been cooler if he'd had some excess skin hanging off or some oozing blood, or something.

That said, the movie was good, as was Heath. The big ensemble cast was kinda cool. Batman was more of a minor part of a bigger story. I might see it again.

The more time that passes, the more I realize just how much I loved this movie, and I'm certain I'll be seeing it again soon.   There is so much to take in, and so many performances worth seeing a second time, not to mention I really want to appreciate how double-sided and complex virtually all of the Joker's actions were.  In the meantime, I'm curious as to how others responded to the film (really minor spoilers here, I guess):

Did anyone else jump when "Batman" hit the window while Dent and the mayor were talking?

The truck-flipping scene elicited gasps and cheers from the people in my showing....very cool.

And as much as I enjoyed the movie from start to finish, does anyone else think Bale's growly-Batman voice seem both ridiculous and funny at times?  The first few times he used it, I almost laughed out loud, but by the end, it all made sense again...

i'm going to wait a week or so to see this, but i'm very excited.   i read the spoilers, i dont give a shit.  :hihi:

yeah, like everyone in the audience jumped when he hit the window.  :hihi:

The funniest part of the movie has to be the disappearing pencil.   :rofl:

I watched Batman Begins the afternoon before I went, and only then did I notice the voice. I guess it makes sense that its diguised so people cant identify him. 

Oh yeah, I jumped :hihi:

That pencil scene really set the tone for what the Joker was going to be. Great set up "I'm going to make this pencil disappear"

Also the guy falling 2-3 stories feet first, and graphically, was an eye opening moment as well.
"This fall isn't enough to kill me"
"I'm counting on that"


I wouldnt be surprised if there is an R rated version of this movie that could be released on DVD.

What surprises me is that it *wasn't* rated R.  All in all, that's one disturbing movie in terms of violence, dark themes, and....well, just plain creepiness.

As for an R-rated version, Nolan has said in many interviews that he hasn't and typically doesn't shoot extra footage, and sticks to the written script.  Since there aren't any deleted scenes to speak of, I'm thinking this will be the only version we see.

And I'd actually forgotten about the "disappearing pencil" bit.  Thanks for brining that one up again.   :beer:

Just got home and I must say, this movie is absolutely incredible!!!!!!! WOW!

As much as  I thought Batman Begins sucked, this movie made up for it.

This is by far the greatest superhero movies ever and YES one of the best overall movies I've seen Period.

I was absolutely mesmerized by this movie

Christian Bale totally redeemed himself in my eyes as I found him to be very good in this movie. I still think Batman Begins was a letdown due to the horrible villain. Everyone Protagonist needs an equal Antagonist and thats what u got in this movie.

The way the Joker is done in this movie though, he is like an Anti Hero but I actually was cheering for him. Its because he actually had REASONS for the things he done. Kind of like in the Saw movies where everyone leads to their own fate etc.

He had his reasons and most were pretty dead on. Especially his social commentary on human beings.


Heath Ledger was so phenomenal I dont even know where to begin. When I watch Movies, I really study actors *which is why I think Johnny Depp is the greatest* 

I like seeing how someone OWNS the character. So many read lines off the page, they act, they use their personality etc.

Ledger WAS THE JOKER. I guess thats how u can say it and why his shits all over Nicholson's and kicks it off the face of the earth


when u watch Nicholson, it looks like Jack Nicholson playing the joker. voice, face, walk, etc etc


With Ledger, I mean every idiosyncracy, the way he speaks, the way he flicks his tongue like a serpent, his mannerisms, I mean the GUY was living this character and it explodes off the screen.

Story was excellent, character build up was amazing, shocking twists i didnt see coming and the ending with Two Face is maybe the only somewhat weak area *still not sure what happend??* 


The pencil was hilarious but I cracked up the loudest when he was holding Rachel out the window and Batman says "Let Her Go"  which the joker replied "Poor CHoice of words"  hahahahhhahahahahahahahhaha




AM i the only one that got watery eyed at the end of this movie?  I've loved and followed Heath  Ledger's career since 10 Things I hate About You and I just couldnt help but reflect and feel horrible of the life he had ahead of him.  His final scene got me choked up and Im not afraid to admit that.

After reading this i really can't wait to see it. Since you were so hard on batman begins this must've really blown you away.

Oh hell yeah

Too bad u can only give 10/10 on movies. this movie is one of those that lasts 2 and  a half hours but it feels like 30 minutes. U are sad to see it end its so good.

I've seen a few people say its too long and others say it moves fast sometimes too fast.

People who didnt like this, Im gonna bet they were either 'Sleepy" or just not in a mood to watch an epic flick.

Sometimes that makes all the difference in the world.


Sometimes people just dont like it.

me not being the biggest Batman fan however, I can't see how someone couldnt.

You know, I still stand by my previous comment about Nolan not having any Deleted Scenes or extra footage for the DVD release - I'll try to find the quotes and source later, in fact - but I just came across this as well:

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/37515

What's not so good?

1. I believed Harvey's turn to vengeance against corrupt cops and mobsters -- but his final turns against Batman and Gordon's family felt rushed and chatty to me. There's apparently a three-hour cut of this film floating in Nolan's editing bay, and I'm wondering how much more of Two-Face's final rampage is on it.

Yeah the Two faced thing was a little rushed, nowhere near as rushed as the Venom in Spidey3 but I would've liked to have seen a little more.


Although his turn was actually built up by the Joker the entire movie and his speeches about humans and how when things are good etc etc but when things are bad everyone turns to chaos etc.

Harvey was a great man when his life was in order and he was the man and happy

as soon as something bad happened and he was faced with adversity, he did like so many humans do and lost his integrity and faith.

I just dont understand what happened at the end. Didnt Batman go against his principle??


Also, I thought Batman used the sonar cause the Joker damaged something that didnt allow him to see out of his mask or something............ not sure...........

D - not sure if this will answer your question or not, but concerning the ending:  Batman and Gordon were discussing how the Joker was essentially trying to corrupt the city's soul.  He took Dent, the brightest hope they had - and essentially broke him, leaving Two-Face in his wake and bringing ruin to all the good the three of them had accomplished.  Batman did *not* go against his principle - he didn't take a life - but instead took the blame for the deaths Two-Face caused, leaving Dent's legacy as a hero intact for the good of the city.  As a result - and in order to prevent the Joker from "winning" - Batman is now perceived as both a killer and a fugitive, and Gordon agreed to the deception and will now essentially have to hunt Batman down in order to preserve the lie and keep Dent's original, altruistic efforts - and the city's hope - alive.

Maybe I just didnt register that part, it happens at 2:30 in the morning  :hihi:

Forgot one of the funniest scenes, dont want to give away anything though.

When the Joker leaves the Hospital after talking to Harvey Dent. That was excellent physical comedy by Ledger that went far beyond the outfit he was wearing at the time. :hihi:

Fuck, I havent been able to stop thinking about this movie.

Just watched it it was great!

Thought this movie was mind blowing. I watched Batman Begins again a few nights ago to get in the feel (I watched that in the theaters as well)

This movie was even better. The Joker was awesome and it's really hard to explain in my own words what made this movie so great but it just felt like I was really into it. I really think the Batman Character/Actor is the best version we've had. he definitely fits the part to a tee both in and out of the suit.

Batman is my favorite super hero and I'm so glad that this movie has done justice to the franchise. I liked the original 2 Batman movies then everything up till Batman Begins was crap. These last 2 movies have been amazing and I'm confident that the next one will be great too, I'm confident they will make yet another.

Do you mean the fact that he took blame? No that's just Batman being the real "Hero".

Yeah as it came to an end I was kind of thinking wow I hope there's more can't be over already!

OH yeah Kujo

that was one of my favorite parts. After a few days I'll talk more in detail but I dont want to spoil that part as u said, so Im not gonna go into specifics. but the comedy there is just off the charts

Im gonna go catch another showing of this Monday.



BAZGNR SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I wasnt talkin about that ending, I understood that, I was wondering how exactly twofaced died? Did the impact from the fall kill him? thats what I was saying, wouldnt that have went against Batman's principles if he killed Two Face?

Also, anyone else think that Batman, when he talked sounded like Jim Carrey in "Me,Myself and Irene when he would turn into Hank. "Vagisil on Aisle 2"

Waiting to see it at Imax, as its sold out  for a bit, but thats cool, as my work schedule prevented me to go normal times, but Im def syked to see it, but I refuse to see it anywhere else other than in IMAX.

I know a lot of people don't like that Bale changes his voice when he's Batman, but I think it makes sense. The deep growl adds to the intimidation and fear factor. And it wouldn't really make sense for him to talk like his regular self. He can't have people thinking, "I've heard that voice before . . ."

Don't read the following if you haven't seen the movie:

Because the Joker . . . well, because his fate isn't exactly "sealed," I've been wondering a lot if Nolan had planned on bringing the Joker back for the third movie. Has anyone heard or read anything about whether or not that was the case, and if Ledger's death is going to upset their original plan for the third movie?

I read a interview with Bale just the other day and he said there are no definite plans for a third movie yet.

God I hope not. I heard a rumor that Ledger beat out Adrian Brody for the role

Could u see Adrian Big nose brody as the joker? YUCK!!!!!!


Only actor Id find intriguing enough to take over for Ledger and I think could be up to the task is Johnny Depp.

I really see no one else diverse enough to do it.

Hey that's an interesting point about Johnny doing the role!

Most certainly after his performance in Sweeney Todd, he is most certainly (a  contender).  :) (spot the film reference)!



EDIT:

With Johnny's greater acting experience he probably wouldn't have "lost himself" so much in the role either.

Sorry guys, I respectfully disagree on this one.  There's no way they could recast the role of the Joker and have it work for audiences at this point.  The Rachel Dawes character?  Not a big deal, certainly, as Katie Holmes did little with it in the first one - and some could argue that there wasn't much that could be done with it.  Ledger totally owned the role, and left such a mark that it would be impossible for anyone else to try to take it over in an way that was acceptable to anyone - directors, cast, and audiences alike, I'd imagine.   As much as I'd love to see the character again, it would only if Health were still alive to deliver the performance.  Otherwise, I'm grateful for what we got this time around.

I absolutely agree, after Ledger's performance, they couldnt bring in anyone to be The Joker in future movies.  I mentioned Johnny Depp being the only possible chance if they wanted to.

Ah.  Gotcha.   I agree, it does get a bit blurry when you look at it that way.   Maybe "accidental death of villain while saving the life of an innocent" isn't the same as "intentionally taking a life?"

God, I loved that movie.  I really need to see it again, and soon.

Christian Bale is under contract for 3 movies. Oddly enough Christopher Nolan was only signed for 2.

I think I've figured out my beef with the vision of the Joker in this movie............The film took the "Supervillian" role away from the Joker and made him into this regular deformed nutjob criminal.  Wow.....daddy took the knife to your precious little smile....now I'm a bad guy. 

The Joker is Batman's yang.  They are to Hero/Supervillian as Peanut Butter is to Jelly.  The Joker, in this movie while demented enough, just isn't the Joker.  As to the poster who said earlier.....The Joker is a comical guy, that's his schtick.........so Christopher Nolan and Heath Ledger wanted to re-imagine the character as this abused emo-guy with a mildly decent sense of humor.  Jack Nicholson was a great Joker, even though as D stated Nicholson's aura shone through the character itself.  Caeser Romero, while corny back in the day, still personified the absolute vision of what the Joker was.

I think I liked Tim Burton's film a lot more because of the improved changes to the Batman storyline.  I think by having Jack Napier kill Bruce Wayne's parents when he was a young criminal, it sets up a more dramatic climax between the two.  Now they have history AND a score to settle.  That movie was just so well written and directed that it puts the Christopher Nolan borefest of Batman Begins to shame.  And the visual settings of the 1989 Batman were astonishing as to where this was basically just New York with a few CGI Buildings and signs put into place. 

All that stuff played on the film for me.  And yes....Christian Bale's "McGruff the crime dog" Batman voice got annoying as shit.

It was pretty graphic when The Joker killed Robin with a crow bar too.

well first of all, joker stated different reasons for his scars so i dont know how true the daddy knife thing is. thats part of what made him so scary, u dont know how the scarring happened, its left up to the imagination.

also, i thought jack napier killing bruce wayne's parents was incredibly lame and most of all, contrived.

i dont understand how u can like burton's version better, it had no substance, batman killed people and it just didnt feel right.

As D said, this new joker had very thought provoking social commentary and his mannerisms were quite impressive, he really BECAME the character.

there was alot going on beneath the surface in this movie, u had the whole chaos vs. order dichotomy and the "die a hero or live long enough to become the villain" which made it more than just a comic book movie..

i think The Dark Knight is easily the best batman movie yet.

oh and i like tim burton's movies. i do. but i think Christopher Nolan has been a godsend to the Batman franchise.

one of the best movies ive ever seen!  heath ledger was fantastic and the story was awesome!

Yeah, he didnt turn into a nutjob due to his dad, remember he gave a story about his wife slicing him or something.....


I love Burton's Batman dont get me wrong, I just never cared for the, I am a Billionaire and my parents got murdered so I am gonna become a superhero for revenge.

Rich People are just hard to "Root" for :hihi: which is why I guess I never really liked Batman cause sometimes it can rub u the wrong way like "Aw Poor little rich boy"

I always like Spiderman cause he was so different than the superhero as he was a nerd and poor and really sacrificed eveything. Same with Bruce Banner, the superhero thing was a blessing and a curse and didnt fit into the world. I can go down the line.

IronMan works because the dude is rich but he is cocky and proud of it u know? its like he isnt tryin to be anything he isnt. He liked the attention, he gets off on it.

Bruce Wayne.......... Bale did better in this one but I think the reason I liked it was cause it didnt focus solely on Wayne or Batman, I read a guys review on another forum that said Batman was almost like a supporting character in this one and in a way I can see that.

But thats the great thing about batman, hes doesn't have any special powers.  Thats what makes it enjoyable rather than watching some far fetched movie like superman.  Yes hes rich, but uses a good portion of his money helping Gotham through Wayne enterprises and being batman.  I definatley agree that the spotlight was on Heath because I don't think a movie has seen a villain like the Joker in so long, and on top of that being so well played.  Where are all those die hard nicholson fans now?  :)

Batman is a fantasy character.  Tim Burton understood and embraced that.  Nolan thought that he needed to change that and make Batman "real."  That way he wasnt making a "comic book movie".   Both movies are great, but in time people will realize that Nolans version lacks magic and wonder in order for him  to tell some sort of character analysis.  
   Its an almost pointless arguement to say which Joker is more true or "better."  Same with Batman.  Thank god we actually live in a world where we can actually watch and enjoy both versions.  Ive never understood the internet community's need to choose sides.;  South Park or Family Guy,  Guns or Metallica, Nolan or Burton.  

Saw the movie tonight, thought it was great. There were tons of people waiting in lines to get in, luckily we were early and got great seats. I recommend to see it if you haven't yet!

Thought it was the greatest superhero movie EVER alongside BATMAN BEGINS....both are masterpieces.  I don't know if its as good as Begins, but Heath Ledger stole the show, especially his "magic" pencil trick!!! LOL!!! I'm going to see it again tomorrow!  Can't wait!

It was good but nothing close to Tim Burton's Batman.  I never get tired of his and I'll probably never watch this one again.

Batman Begins is hardly a masterpiece.  However, it did lay the groundwork for Dark Knight, which blows it out of the water.

Great movie!

I put Ledger's Joker up there with Darth Vadar as the greatest bad guys ever.

The two movies starting with batman Begins blow Burton's version away IMO.  There are so many layers to Nolan's take that it holds it own against non-superhero dramas. 

I loved Ironman, but this way better....by a long shot.

Source: http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080720/121658682000.html


huge opening for a great movie! : ok:

Even better opening day:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/20/boxoffice.ap/index.html

On opening day Friday, "The Dark Knight" also took in more money than previously counted, Fellman said. The film pulled in a record $67.85 million, up nearly $1.5 million from the studio's estimates a day earlier.

The previous opening-day record also had been held by "Spider-Man 3" with $59.8 million.

I saw it Friday night.

It was fucking stellar.

The acting was excellent, the action set pieces were not only spectacular, but actually pertinent to the story being told.  The cinematography was very good (I'm still not a HUGE fan of the close up fighting shots...but I get what the film maker is going for: more personal, brutal impact).  And the writing was top notch...not just for a "superhero" movie, but for any movie.  Those going in expecting a popcorn flick got SOOOO much more. It was the best movie I've seen so far this year, and the fastest 2.5 hours I've spent in a theater without there being a "Lord of the Rings" prefix attached to the movie.

Ledger's performance was everything it was built up to be, IMHO.  Just amazingly well done.  So many little details (the mannerisms and ticks) in there.  If Jack's performance was the ultimate "cartoon" portrayal, Ledger's is the ultimate COMIC BOOK portrayal...at least the moder comics version.  His last monologue scene in the movie was made MUCH more poignant by his passing.....

Everyone else aquitted themselves very well.  Caine was great (as usual) and was a great "Human foil" to Bruce.  Freeman was, likewise, a great moral compass.  Neither role felt "empty" or short shrifted and the acting was superb.

There were a couple of "I can't believe they did that" moments that just really blew me away.  I stayed away from all the spoilers (so won't add any here) before the movie, so I was surprised by a couple of the turns it took.  It amazes me how they tied everything together, and made so many of the tidbits in the movie SUPREMELY relevant in the last scene. 

As I said, I think it was a stellar pic.

The first thing I thought of were the AT-AT's in Empire Strikes back.  Very cool, indeed.

I agree.  I like Ra's and all in the comics, but he's not exactly the cornerstone villian I would have thought to relaunch the bat franchise with.  Liam did a good job with the role, but Ra's never had the dramatic "heft" most of Batmans' rogue's gallery has...though I guess, since Ra's is sort of "outside Gotham"...when you set a good portion of the movie outside Gotham, it's going to be a good way to use him.

And the "Scarecrow" was just done badly.  They just chose the WRONG guy to portray him, and he did a poor job with him.

I LIKED Batman Begins...don't get me wrong...but The Dark Knight rips off it's head and shits down it's neck.


It's funny.  My wife and I drew the same parallel to the Saw movies....because Joker is equally as creepy as Jigsaw.



I think Jack did it very well within the confines of what they were going for:  A more stylized, cartoony, OLD comics version of the character.  That's what Jack did.

Ledger was given a different take from the get go.  A realistic, grittier, NEWER comics version of the character.  It's the version I prefer, overall, anyway.  And Ledger took that direction and just did a STELLAR job with it.

I almost have a hard time comparing the two, because they're just such different takes on the character.  At the end, though...I do think I'd give Ledger's version the nod.


You got a cartoony version of the character Jack plays in The Shining and One flew over the Coo-Coo next.  You can DEFINITELY still see Jack in there, rolling around.


And that's why I would give Ledger the nod.  You hit it on the head.  Because when you watch Ledger do the role, HE disappears.  You can't see any sign of Heath Ledger up there on the screen...he's completely gone. 


I got "misty" during his last monologue, too. 

See, the thing is: Taking the blame also HELPS batman in his fight.  Because now, without having to compromise his principles, he's overcome exactly the problem Joker talked about:  The criminals were getting wise to the fact Batman had "rules".

It's not a great trade off, but....it's one little minor thing that just shows how tight the story telling and script are.

The question I had at the end of the movie was:  Is Dent's story really over.  Obviously the Joker's might not be (can you imagine the poor guy who gets recast in that role if they reprise it?).  Dent's SEEMS like it might be....I'm not so sure.

The sonar machine "in the basement" was what was feeding his eye pieces...generating those images he was seeing.

When the joker damaged them, he wasn't "seeing in sonar" anymore, so had to have Fox "translate" what was going on, on the sonar, to him. 

There will be after this weekend's box office numbers come in.

:)

I still cant wrap  my head around the fact that the guy in 10 Things I hate abou You and the Gay Cowboy in Brokeback Mountain was the Joker.

If I didnt know going in i would've called u a liar.

WOW!

Im going to go see this again in the next day or two.

It's a funny thing that thing called acting!

Yeah but its more than that

I mean there are great actors who dont make u lose them in the role.


Denzel is the same dude every movie
Morgan Freeman same dude
Tom Cruise
Tommy Lee Jones

But with this one, its just wild how it doesnt even seem to be Heath Ledger on the screen but something else entirely.

Just saw the movie again for the second time, some things make more sense and I caught a few things I missed last time. I definitely suggest a repeat viewing if you have the time to do so.  : ok:

I agree.  He was about to be propelled into a place held only by Johnny Depp right now.  The ability to become something else unrecognizable to even the people that know you.  It is a huge losss.  Here's to hoping they convince Depp to take on the rolle.  He's the only actor alive that could pull off following this masterpiece by Ledger (maybe).

this is one of the greatest movie ive ever seen. i was a little worried watching it since i thought i would fall asleep since i watched it at 2am and seeing as i was in vegas this weekend you really dont get any sleep at all. those 2 hours and 30 minuets sure didnt felt like 2 hours and 30 minuets

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thats a really good point about how taking blame helps batman in his fight. it makes him look so much fucking scarier, pinning the blame of those murders on him.

about dent. they are never really THAT clear that hes dead. i mean we saw gordon giving his speech but we didnt see any casket or anything, i've been wondering whether they might say he survived that fall, since i remember reading this film was supposed to set two-face up as the bad guy for the next film in nolan's trilogy.

Why is D-Bo in this movie?

i guess to show even the toughest criminal is willing to give his life to save the others by not pressing that button?

I agree.

I can almost see him as some "John Doe" sitting over in Arkham.....

I thought ALMOST the same thing when I saw Tiny Lister in the role....

"WTF is Zeus doing on that boat!"

Honestly, I hope that's the case.   I can't see them doing such a superb job of introducing and defining the character to have him dead by film's end.  Granted, it does betray the "preserve Harvey's legacy" ending if he ended up alive in the future, but hiding him in Arkham might be an alternative.  I can't say it would be feasible, however...no way would that stay a secret.

I had a similar reaction, but it was overshadowed by my thoughts on how ecstatic both Eric Roberts and Anthony Michael Hall must be to be a part of this movie.  And good for them.

I think it would fit the continuation of the story perfectly if two face became a mass killer and then Batman was no longer hunted because Harvey took responsibility. Though it would have been better to still have the Joker as a villain, but I dont see that role being recast.

i was reading an article at some dark knight forum saying that if they do recast it might be johnny depp to play the joker for some scenes. i guess so they can just finish the joker off in the 3rd movie.

I'm sorry, but *anyone* else taking that role over, no matter how small the part, would be awful.   Unlike Katie Holmes in the previous film, Ledger left too much of a mark on the character for anyone else to successfully step in to replace him.  It would be a mistake, and I hope they don't consider it as a viable option. 

If/when they make a third movie, they need the Joker. The story needs closure.

I couldnt see anyone other that johnny depp playing the joker if they were to bring him back.

Just saw it today.  What can I say?  I really liked the movie.  :headbanger: 


Shittiest super hero?  Only if in your world "shitty" means "great" and, thus, "shittiest" means "greatest."

No special powers...just a dude fucking shit up.

Ok, it was good, but it wasn't Batman and Robin...now that was a great movie!  : ok:

Was taht the one with Mr. Freeze?  :rofl:

Yes!

''I think we might have killed the franchis"--GC

They really made some awful Batman movies there for a while.  Something about Alicia Silverstone doesn't lend credibility to the series.

Yes, after Batman Returns it was a nosedive into Shit Canyon. But you have to admit, Alicia looked  :drool: in her Batsuit.

Yeah everything after batman returns was god awful. I don't know if this series of the movies will have that many sequels but if it does at least i think they will be good movies.

There was only Batman Forever (with Val Kilmer), and Batman & Robin (with Clooney), after Batman Returns. But yeah, they each got exponentially crappier. This series will probably be 3 or 4 movies too.

I read somewhere that Bale was signed on for three movies, but Nolan was only signed on for two.

I know this:
- I don't want a third movie directed by someone other than Nolan
- I'm not interested in a new movie in this series that re-casts The Joker

Re-casting Katie Holmes was pointless, it's not like Gyllenhaal added anything significant to the role.  I would have preferred Holmes play it out in this movie just for continuity.... and she's easier on the eyes.

Yeah if there is a third Nolan has to do it let him finish this great trilogy he started. Ledger would be almost impossible to replace i don't think fans would accept it at all.

I dunno...it's not as if he's leaving for money reasons or the director doesn't like him, ya know?  I mean...how many crappy Crow movies are there?

Thats a good point.

I know it's all speculation, but I'm seeing The Riddler's name pop up a lot as the most likely villian to be in the third movie. You know it's not going to be Mr. Freeze or Poison Ivy or Catwoman, and I don't know as much about some of the more obscure Batman villians. One of my friends mentioned the Mad Hatter, whom I don't know much about, but I think that'd be too close to the Joker. The Riddler probably does make the most sense. And you know he'd be nothing like Jim Carrey's version.

Batman isnt a super hero though. Thats my point. He has no special powers therefore he is a dude with a lot of engineered weapons etc.

The riddler in the next one would be cool. I don't think poison ivy or catwoman would be very good. Maybe the penguin too i hope its not mr freeze.

King Tut was a good villian.

I've heard a few people point out that the scene when Morgan Freeman is asked if the Batsuit will stand up to Dogs, he mentions Cats, therefore possibly foreshadowing the Catwoman in the next film. That said, I hope its not the case. The shitty Halle Berry movie from a couple years ago pretty much destroyed any credibility the character had.

Eh, semantics.  I don't care what you call him. 

The point is that ANYONE could be Batman.  NO ONE could be Superman, Spiderman, etc. 

Thats kinda true, especially true of Superman. I think some of Spiderman's appeal was that he was just normal kid until he was bitten by that spider. It could happen to anyone  :hihi:

I've been bitten by many spiders.  Still waiting.  :hihi:

I want Bane as the next villian. Either that or a movie version of "The Dark Knight Returns."

Just saw it

Its.....intresting

So much about it I adored, Joker is mesmerising - hysterical, terrifying - Ledger must surely take an Oscar

I loved its commentary on humanity, what we become when we are pushed......

But it was tooo long, too much going on - so often I wanted to savour a scene, a line an idea - but it was on to the next thing

It needed to take its best ideas, leave the rest and make a simplier story to hang its philsophy on

I was so busy trying to work out who ''Ramirez'' was and how Two-Face got out of cruhed cars I couldn't savour the points it was making, the importance of hope and that humanity for all its flaws is intrinsically good

Badly edited, many scenes were cut (so there are plenty of deleted scenes - hell stuff from the trailers doesn't make the final cut!)

I will see it again, The Dark Knight is just like its theme - within all the baggage and excess - is gold

(and Maggie Gyllenhal is god awful, hell if i was Bruce or Harvey I would happily have given up the chase - Katie Holmes was far more intresting)

He was also good on the odd couple to perform a seaonce on the air conditioner.

Spoilers below.

Just saw it last night.  I didn't dislike it, but it didn't really do anything for me either.  I doubt I would watch it again. 

Granted, I'll admit I'm not a superhero movie fan in general.  The only ones I would re-watch are Superman I and II (and only for nostalgia reasons) and Batman Begins (and even that, I only liked the 1st half or so).

But given I mostly liked Batman Begins and was a sucker for the Heath Ledger hype, I went to see it.  So first, Heath Ledger -- his performance was very good, you have to hand it to him.  But overall I found the character uninteresting (which is not Ledger's fault).  We get it, the guy's a sociopath.  OK.   Thing is, most human beings can't relate to or empathize with sociopaths (nor should they).  To me, the more interesting villains have been those who have a conflicted sense of humanity. The Joker was anything but conflicted.  Also, I wasn't too taken in with his philosophical rationalizations, because they were just that -- rationalizations, not his true driving force.

I agree on most of the reviews on Maggie Ghyllenhall.  They would have been better off with a cardboard cutout of Katie Holmes.  But the main problem was that the character was just a token leading lady role, not a character of any substance or use.

Another problem I had was Harvey Dent / Aaron Eckhart.  I could not for one second buy into the angle that he was some sort of shining White Knight.  So I didn't go for his whole fall from grace, because I never believed he was at grace.  In fact, I (mistakenly) believed throughout the film that he was the guy in cahoots with the mob.  Granted, the first role I ever saw Aaron Eckhart play was in the movie "In the Company of Men", when he played il capo di tutti capi of douchebags.  So perhaps that colored my opinion of him.  But then again, Heath Ledger was able to sell his character, so...

As for Christian Bale, I think he's a great actor, he just didn't have enough to do with the role this time around.   

Of course, the entire movie-going public seems to disagree with me.  But still...

I disagree

The Joker was conflicted, for all his bravado he was deeply tramatised and unhappy (his 'stories' about his scars reflecting a deep rooted pain) he was fully aware of what he was and hated himself (he wanted Batman to run him down and kill him)

The Joker was taking out on the world his hate, basically trying to destroy the good he couldn't find in himself.

He needed to destroy the hope Dent represented, the hope he lacked.  He talks about how he is a dog chasing cars, not knowing what he would do if he caught one - he lives without goals, but worse.....without hope, he wanted everyone to be as empty as he felt.

I loved his character and the depth it showed - most villians have some very obvious back story, with the Joker we got to know him in a far more intresting way

He was also a commentary on the world we live in - the rules we are bound by, the Joker was the only one in the film  truly 'free' - but at what cost does freeom come? For all the rules, and red tape we wade through in our lives - isnt it chilling to see what true freedom looks like?

Yes, I disagree too.

The Joker is a great character. There's a lot of truth in what he says, however he's incredibly misguided. For example the talk about plans, schemers, etc. and everything going according to "the plan". As another famous movie says "the greatest trick the devil pulled was tricking the world into believing he didn't exist....". Joker is very much similar. He twists the truth, but there is truth in the lie, which manipulates those he's speaking to. Most notably Harvey....he talks about chaos being fair, etc. etc.

^^ I see your point and that's probably what the writers were aiming for, but I just didn't have that feeling about the character coming away from the movie.  And, besides, when an indiscriminate murderer has feelings of self-hatred and a death wish, I don't find him conflicted, it just shows he still has common sense.

As for the comic relief aspect of the character, I thought he was pretty funny.  Kujo already mentioned it, but that hospital exit was beyond hilarious.  I also got a nice laugh out of "Where's the Italian?"  :hihi:

Yes! Forgot that!

Also I noticed on the second viewing, after the one thug  is in the jail cell and starts complaining about stoumach pains, the Joker turns his head and makes a face in a "Who Me?" type gesture that made me crack up. There were so many subtle touches he brought to the role.

I saw this at the IMAX theatre.

I had never ever seen a Batman movie before, this was my first.

It was alright, well worth the money I spent.

But during the scenes when the Joker wasn't on, I found myself eagerly anticipating his next appearance.

The other characters really didn't do anything for me.  I know I won't go see the next one.

Shut up w.axl.rose!  :hihi:

I just saw the movie today and Wow! Ledger's performance was mesmerizing. I think that his portrayal was the best Joker yet. The first half of the movie was mind blowing, but like some others said, it went on for too long.... with the ferry scenes, the crappy sonar vision and a poor choice for the female lead I might add. But, I'd watch it again just to see the Joker. I hope he gets an Oscar for that.

Saw it tonight...great movie, great acting, but calling it one of the best movies of all time is far far beyond ridiculous!

   First of all, making a "realistic" Batman movie is a huge mistake. Are we supposed to believe that this city, in the good ol' US of A, is kinda like a better looking Bagdad, with the authorities being completly powerless against a group of not-so-smart looking thugs and a weird psychopath? And Batman's "toys" just don't work when you're trying to make them realistic..the car that after taking a shitload of bumps and crashes, turns into a magical motorcycle that can turn on a fucking wall, the goggles, give me a break !  Tim Burton knew exactly what Batman was: it was pure fantasy, not meant to be taken seriously, but to be enjoyed .

  Now, Ledger's performance...it was really really good, but let's not turn the poor guy into Kurt Cobain...dozens of movie performances were far better (actually the Cobain parallel is wrong. Heath was actually good, Kurt was crap). I'm not saying Jack was better or worse 19 years ago, but he was WAY cooler, and that's what I expect from a superhero movie...

   Overall, all the main characters except the chick were briliantly played. Bale, Eckhart and the magnificent Gary Oldman (not in his best role, but still...) did great jobs, partially making up for their characters' lack of substance.
    I agree with what was said earlier, the whole White Knight thing behind Dent was clearly lacking credibility. Not to mention his sudden, illogical twist...so his girlfriend died, now he's suddenly a villan, and blames not the guy that did it, but the poor guy that tried to stop it and failed...

   As for Batman not killing people, so pathetic, naive and childish...he had the chance to kill a psychopatic terrorist and potentially save many lives, and he pussied out, that makes no sense.

  Some might say that I didn't get this movie, the subtle psychological aspects of it, bla bla bla...I did get them, I just din't find them very interesting or well placed...you want a serious movie that makes you think, rent Schindler's List, Scent of a woman, Good Will Hunting, etc, but when you're looking at a guy dressed as a bat fighting a dude wearing Marilyn Manson-like make-up for 2 and a half hours, relax and just be entertained by all the flashy explosions and the cool gadgets, dont look deeper because there's nothing there...

Doesn't sound too far off to me.  Whether he was a psychopath or not, Capone certainly went to work on Chicago justice for a good amount of time, and that period, as I understand it, was the basis for the crime in this movie.

  Whole different era, dude...

So?  It's fiction.

  That's kinda my point. It's fiction, it's pure fantasy, let's not spoil it by making it too serious and realistic

I prefer a depiction of what might be called an "alternate reality," rather than the colorful, ice-capades approach of "Batman and Robin".  Those films just got really silly.

   I was talking about the Burton's movies, Batman and Robin was the most stupid thing ever, I don't even classify it as a Batman flick

Went Yesterday morning at noon to watch it thinking I wouldn't be sitting in the 4th row this time.

Yeah, I sit in the exact seat as the first time I watched it


Theater was STILL packed.

The movie left me with the same awesome feeling as the first time I watched it.

Is it bad that I relate to the Joker on a lot of levels???

Anyway, I'll definitely be going for a third showing before it leaves theaters.

When I go see NIN in Knoxville August 12th, I may leave early so I can watch it at their Imax theater.

$300 million and counting.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-07-27-box-office_N.htm

Honestly, I don't know who directed what.  Did Burton do the first two?  Because I did like those MUCH more than what came after (until Dark Knight).

didnt a guy called Joel Schumacher or something direct the last two batman movies of the original franchise?

Yes to the previous two posts....Burton did 1 &2, then Schumacher brought on the bat-nipples and sidekicks.

Just saw it.Heath Ledger was indeed amazing.  Nice contrast to Nicholson's gentleman psycho. Definately one of the best roles in a loong time.Or characters. Or both!

Who ever wrote the script of Dark knight was fucking lazy.  3 hours of Joker running around, putting explosives in unlikely places and then pulling off a blackmailing routine of varying scale. it's just too repetitive. Wayyy too repetitive.
 Too many locations.  Either Hospitals or  ships should have been left out;" okay when pushed to limits and making something a question of life or death  ppl might turn to killers or psychos or kilerpsychos  we get the fuking point!!"

During 2nd half of the movie Joker stops being Joker and starts being evil version of the main character in unusually bad Bond movie. He outsmarts and bluffs everyone, survives from anything and is so superior to everyone else that no1 even bothers to wonder how the fuck everything essential keeps getting rigged with explosives agan and again.

Ending  was forced."But  B?tm?n! How do we, the humble habitants of the city that is plagued by organized crime and psycho blowing everything including police stations and hospitals up, ever explain the death of these four (4!) people???
B?tm?n: hmm i see no other option than taking the blame:o


...But it wasnt a bad movie :yes:

you should leave early and see it on imax, it will be totally worth it!

Wow, this movie is just crushing all records!  That's the second article I've read that has dared to mention Titanic...  :o

yeah but i doubt it will break titanics record. don't get my wrong id love for it to break the record but with all this piracy i doubt it will happen. ill probably just end up in the top 5 box office movies of all time.

Well... Shrek passed $400 million in 43 days and still pulled in 44 million AFTER that, if The Dark Knight is on pace to pass $400 million in 18 days, it's looking very likely that it will crack $500 million.  That's ahead of the original Star Wars and #2 all time.  Titanic may be out of reach... so it might "just be the #2 box office movie of all time".... adjusted for inflation all you want, this movie is still a monster!

The think about TDK is that there are lots of people who go back and watch it a second, third or fourth time.

Just like all the horny boys and girls went to see the movie about the ship 30 times.

Ive seen it twice and can definitely see myself watching it 2 more times.

I've seen it three times already, and am planning a fourth at an IMAX theater in a few days.

That'll be enough, I think.    :hihi:

id love to see it a couple more times at the imax but the nearest one to me is really far, and i dont want to see it at a crappy theater

next time you'll see it it'll be on a crappy ol' DVD then wont it?  :(

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cool man. i think ill wait till Halloween to paint my face, gonna try and make some custom made scars as well  :smoking:

you guys may be interested in this trivia link i found, its pretty cool =


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/trivia

I haven't seen The Dark Knight yet, but I find it annoying that it is the #1 rated movie on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?tt0068646). Is it really better than The Godfather? Come on!

Amazing how the dead can be even more influential than the living.

That happens when a good new movie comes along. As more votes come in, it'll drop down in rankings. Notice the difference in the number of votes cast for 'The Dark Knight' and 'The Godfather'.

Im seeing it later today, i cant wait.

My friend saw it yesterday n said he thought it was great and better than Begins, and i loved Begins.

So ill post my thoughts when im done watching it later!

U know what I find annoying?

People who make judgements about something they haven't even seen.

At the moment, it has to be one of the most overrated flicks of the decade.
H.L does absolutely amazing job as a Joker.  What else truly exceptional is there?  Atm the flick is getting very undeserved messiah treatment.

Imho both Burton's Batmans leave better aftertaste than this.
Burton's Batmans have a plot with a lot ess "Oh come ooon, what the fuck was THAT all about:("- moments than Dark Knight. Which is quite an achievement considering Gotham City by Burton was a lot more surreal and other worldy place than more real&ihilistic version in Nolan's Batmans.

Occasionally  things that are just stupid as fucking hell happen in plot of Dark Knight. Not whining about "unrealistic" details of the flick here, like Police being 100% helpless and so on, lot of that stuff is a given in super hero flick i guess.
If you have 3 hours of constant plot twists "all" revolving around !!EXPLOSIVES!! planted in unlikely places and hostages..it's not movie of the decade you are watching.


It's certainly not a bad movie but the "OH MY GOD!!" reaction its currently  getting...blehh, stop it ppl!::D

I absolutley do not agree

I think this is one of the greatest movies Ive ever seen and I HATE Batman. I thought Batman Begins was one of the biggest pile of shit movies ever.


Dark Knight delivers on every level and more than Heath is great in this movie although he definitely elevates this movie to all time great status. Its not because he is now dead, its because his performance was that damn great.

No, really it is.............Heath Ledger is getting the Kurt Cobain treatment.  His stuff was medicore and popular while he was alive, but would have faded off into oblivion had he not offed himself.  Same rules apply to both.

I kind of agree with you.  It's hard to objectively watch his performance, since EVERY SINGLE PERSON was talking about how brilliant it was.  Now, just because it's tough to be objective does NOT mean that the claims of "brilliant" are wrong (personally, I haven't made such a judgment, though I thought he was quite good). 

But, regarding some criticisms, I do personally enjoy the realism of this movie, much like returning the Bond series from those silly plots to something more real (and, thus, much more powerful and gritty) was very, very necessary.  SOmeone above seemed miffed that the plot revolved around explosives and hostages (though I'd say it really revolves around human nature, with said explosives as a device to reveal that nature).  But the point was chaos.  There's a reason that "supervillains" are much mocked, as they come up with elaborate ways to kill people, such that the hero has 1,000 different opportunities to defeat them.  Simply blowing shit up and killing people is much more effective.

So, regarding the "Cobain treatment," I'd agree that the calls of "greatest ever" and "brilliant!" are a touch premature.  I'm a firm believer in the test of time, and I've seen this film only once.   

I definitely agree with you above........Ledger was GOOD in this film, actually one of the better things about it, but not so good that I get an erection everytime someone mentions the near thought of it. 

Heath Ledger's work wasn't mediocre. His performance in Brokeback Mountain was amazing. A few actors turned down that part. Not only was he a brilliant actor but he was fearless too. What he did with The Joker was really creative. There aren't many actors able to achieve what he did with that character. Johnny Depp is the only other actor I can think of with that much diversity.

As for Kurt Cobain, whether people liked his music or not, he was undeniably different and influential.  He created a lot of great work during his short life. I think he would have continued to do well musically if he were still living. No slipping into oblivion.

The movie was absolutely brilliant.

I went in with an unbiased perspective, ive never watched any movies ledger was in, so ive never been a fan. I felt sorry for him when he died, but as far as im concerned the movie was done. I loved Batman Begins, i wanted a good sequel so i went in to see the sequel to the batman movie, not Heaths last performance.

The movie is exactly how i like a movie to be done, Properly. You dont get that very often in the 00s.

Very little CGI, more model effects and real stuff, thats what i loved about begins, and this continued that. Brilliant efects.

The story was smart, lots of changes and clever schemes devised by the Joker. I enjoyed the story alot, everyones acting was pretty awesome.

Heath, i dont know what he was like in his other movies. But he played the part very well, a very different portrayal to that of Jacks Joker.

I liked the seriousness of it, i hate movies that are afraid of killing characters of, or violence.

This movie does kill people off, and it doesnt think twice about it.

The violence, great, serious, no pansying around. The scene with Batman and Joker in the interegation room was AWESOME. *spoilers ahead*

The way he smashes his face off the table, smashes his head off the glass, punches him in. And what i really liked about it was, The Joker never shows pain or fear, he doesnt react with anything but amusement or insanity.

I didnt feel they needed to kill off Rachel, but it was the plot n they dared to do it so. It made a great shock because i expected both to be saved, so it was good they broke the predictable super hero tale plot.
*spoiler end*

So overall, very good movie. Different in style/theme to the previous Batman so its hard to compare them. But this was simply brilliant, probably best best movie of 2008.

I know what you mean

I found myself fully understanding why he acted as he did -  his hatred of 'schemers', wishing to tear down the old order.

What I'd give to be able to change a few things...

i loved the joker because his insanity appealed to me. I tittered at alot of things.

I love the way he cracks up at stuff.

Thank god, someone else who thinks this. : ok:



Like mrlee, I've never seen a Heath Ledger movie before so I've never been a fan but I thought he played a great part. I especially liked his first appearance. "Look, it's magic!" :hihi:  I suppose it's hard not to be influenced by the fact that he died early but I think that people would be giving him the same praise were he still alive.


Oh, and Ledger never "offed himself". ;)



EDIT: My avatar may have perhaps given away the fact that I liked the Joker in this film. :P

Heath did some crap movies but his performances were great

The Patriot, Monster's Ball, Brokeback Mountain he is fan fucking tastic and now with The Dark Knight.

I think guys like Ledger who didnt kill himself by the way, and Cobain become UNDERRATED because their deaths overshadow just how great they are.

Chris Farley died tragically and I still thought that movie he did with Matt Perry sucked balls.

If the movie and his performance sucked, his death wouldnt change that.

THe mark a of a truly great actor is when they can make u forget they are "heath Ledger, Johnny Depp etc etc and totally become something on the screen.  If it was never announced who the joker was, u wouldnt have had an idea.

His mannerisms for the joker, the way he used his voice and facial expressions.  GENIUS

I'm not a heath ledger fan, and whether he's alive or dead makes no difference in my life.

with that said, he played the best joker ever.   he did an excellent job.   

batman begins was awesome, this reboot of the franchise is 100 times better then the older batman stuff.    The Dark Knight was even better.

only thing I'm not clear on.. is Morgan Freeman gone?

STOP the presses, me and Jim Bob agree.

well, he said he'd quit if Bruce went through with the sonar thing.  I guess it depends on if they meet his price or not. They left it in a way to go either way with his character.  My money says he will be back.

I really hope Morgan isnt gone BUT. He said he wouldnt work with Bruce aslong as he had the sonar spy thing, but at the end he (morgan freeman) destroys it rather than sending a resignation...so he still may be in it as its not there anymore.



*i only wish i could get the Price track off Batman soundtrack where he quotes the "STOP THE PRESS, WHO IS THAT" and link it in here right now

Vikki Vale, I like Batman

Prince's soundtrack to Batman is the FOOKIN SHIT!


Remember Bruce tells him to type in his name when he is done.  Typing in his name caused the sonar to self destruct meaning Bruce only used it this one time and he destroyed it so I think that made MOrgan happy and he didnt resign after all.

ah ha, well then. That settles it doesnt it!!! MORGAN STAYS :D

Yes I am aware of that, but the new Batman is getting more than its fair share of votes and the average rating of the film goes beyond the typical buzz rating that we normally see. My point being that The Dark Knight just set the bar for that kind of buzz rating and so it can't be judged in the same way. It is about the buzz, yes, but it involves too many people (way more than is normal for this sort of thing) and shows a broader mania. Which means that there really are a lot of people out there who fervently believe this film is better than The Godfather and other long-established greats.


I find that annoying too. I am not judging the film though. I am just screwing up my face at the prospect of a Batman movie actually being better than a Godfather movie. The very concept sounds so ridiculous! That, and the new buzz standard this movie has set is OBVIOUSLY connected to Heath's death. Great performance or not, you have to admit that.

I saw it yesterday, in the not so packed half past three of a Thursday afternoon showing.

While I thought that it was great!, I do have one complaint, though not necessarily with the actual film itself...

... My problem was with the trailer. Yes!, the trailer! I tried to avoid finding out too much about this movie, and while the advertising campaign was little short of fantastic, I felt too aware of the movements of the film.

For example, I knew that the "nothing in his pockets but knives and flint," or whatever it was, was coming. You know, I really thought that was going to be the introduction of the joker. After the opening bank heist (which we'd all seen) I had been under the impression that the Joker was going to be arrested for some misdemeanor and allowed to leave, setting up his first meeting with ol' Bats and giving all of that... You know, what's to come feeling and the like.

When that didn't happen, well, I was waiting for it... And waiting for it... And then it came. Much later in the movie than I had expected! Because of the nature of the trailers, I couldn't help but feel that some of the intensity and suspense didn't happen for me.

But that's my only major complaint!, and I'm sure that I'll enjoy it a hell of a lot more on a second viewing.

I felt the same, I knew Gordon wasn't dead when they were pretending he was simply because he hadn't said the "knives and flint" line yet. It's my own fault for over watching the trailers I suppose, but it did take away some of the suspense.

Aye, that was another major bit, and there was something else... Something that eludes me right now... But anyway, while we've nobody but ourselves to blame, it still detracted from my first viewing. Subsequent ones won't be affected though!, hoorah!

thats why im glad i avoided the online marketing campaign and trailers, i barely knew anything and it totally blew me away.

You will. There were alot of little subtle moments I didnt catch until the second viewing.

I agree with almost all your post, except this one part. I don't think a self-hatred is at all why he wanted Batman to kill him. He just recognizes Batman as the most interesting moral entity around, and was willing to die if it meant Batman had to become a hypocrite and cross the line between himself and other criminals.

It's a very similar characterization of the Joker as in The Killing Joke, which I know was a source for Nolan and Ledger. He's out there to expose human indecency and cowardice, to take heroes off their pedastols and scare the 'moral'.

I have stopped watching trailers of movies I want to see. That helps big time. I love going in knowing nothing.

Dark Knight is an awesome movie and I don't see what the big deal is with the Godfather. It seems things are put on pedestals and nothing is allowed to be better. I've already watched Dark Knight twice and Im gonna go see it again and probably a 4th time once it comes to the matinee theater.

4th time today, this time in IMAX.  Very cool - especially any aerial, city-shots - but I'm officially done with this movie for a long, long time.

Oh god  ::)

^

Point made


People dissing The Dark Knight cause its a "Comic movie" or cause Heath died are just as ridiculous as what I posted.

The Godfather was a brilliant movie, but I don't see why people think no other film can do better.

What he said.

Was Batman a good movie? Sure. Was it the best movie? Not even...

I actually dont see what the big deal is with the godfather series. Maybe its because the first one is so old, i dont know.

Id rather other gangster movies like Goodfellas and Scarface.

I like the Godfather.  It isn't "all time favorite," but perhaps it has just enough broad appeal that it qualifies as "the best." 

Personally...I vote for The Big Lebowski.  :hihi:

You almost have to watch The Godfather I and II together and consider it one movie.

Now, the Godfather III?  Never got into that one....

I might actually say Dark Knight would rank above that one, for me......if I was strictly judging based on the individual movies, head to head.

I think GF III might "win out" if taken into context of film, as a whole, because of it's relation to (continuation of, and sort of closure of) the original 2 pics....

But I think Dark Knight actually might be the better made, written, produced and directed of the two, in a "in a vacume" head to head.

Do I need to make a point, really? The Godfather is a perfect piece of film, with a great story, direction and not to mention Al Pacino and Marlon Brando...

The Dark Knight is just a super hero movie... Ok, it's the best super hero movie ever, with an OUTSTANDING performance by Heath Ledger.

But it's not even in the same class as Godfather I and II

I guess I'm one of the few people in the world that think the Godfather is just a good movie that slows to a bore in certain spots and where some of the acting, Marlo's mainly, is overrated. The film has become sort of this mythical thing and was taken to a whole other level when I think it doesn't deserve to be ranked as one of the best films ever made.

To me it is a good film overall but I do not find it deserving of the accolades that people have been giving it. Is it the quintessential mob movie? I can maybe say that because I don't consider goodfellas to be a true movie about the mob.. Is Godfather one of the best films ever made? No.

In respect to The Dark Knight I find it a very entertaining movie. I enjoyed it immensly. Obviously the best comic book film ever made. And I also believe it shouldn't get knocked because it involves a super-hero. I don't think that should lower the quality of a movie as some of have suggested. It was obviously done better and with more skill than any other super-hero flick. And it has also been made better than a lot of other films as well. I think it is more entertaining than the god-father. And though I have lowered my view of the film after first seeing (i said it was one of the best i'd ever seen), I still do believe it is a great film.

I have films I love and here are a few I think are leagues above The Godfather and a few notches above Dark Knight----L.A. Confidential, The Usual Supects, The Shawshank Redemption, Unforgiven, Heat, Goodfellas, and Chinatown.  :smoking:

So, Depp as The Riddler?


http://www.holymoly.co.uk/news/28/johnny-depp-lined-up-to-play-the-riddler-in-next-batman-film-3842.html

he would be amazing as the Riddler, i hope they get him.

And a BIG BIG BIG no to casting The Penguin, a shitty unbelievable character.

Come on, you wouldn't like to see Phillip Seymour Hoffman play the Penguin?

Not a huge fan of Depp's but i think he'd do very well in the role.

i just dislike the penguin, i dont see how that character could be done in such a serious adaptation of the Batman series.

I thought Daniel Day Lewis would also be good as the Riddler.

Johnny Depp's Riddler role?

'Pirates of the Caribbean' star Johnny Depp has been approached to play villainous character The Riddler in the next Batman movie, it has been claimed.

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Johnny Depp has reportedly been approached to play a villain in the next Batman movie.

The actor is wanted to portray The Riddler in the sequel to 'The Dark Knight', according to studio bosses.

A source said: "Johnny would be amazing as The Riddler. The studio knew they needed someone who could match or even top the late actor Heath Ledger's performance as The Joker in the most recent film 'The Dark Knight', and think Johnny has the potential to do so."

The Riddler is a manic super-villain who baffles Batman with his cryptic criminal clues.

He first appeared in the comic book series in 1948, and was portrayed by Frank Gorshin in the 60s US TV show, a role which earned him an Emmy nomination.

More recently, The Riddler was played by Jim Carrey in the 1995 movie 'Batman Forever'.

Studio bosses are also said to be keen to sign up Philip Seymour Hoffman to play The Penguin in the new movie.

They reportedly believe the Oscar-winning star would be the right choice to play the aristocratic, intelligent and terrifying villain.

Christian Bale is currently wowing critics with his portrayal of the Caped Crusader in 'The Dark Knight' alongside Heath Ledger, who died of an accidental drugs overdose in January, Aaron Eckhart, Sir Michael Caine and Maggie Gyllenhaal.

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Wow, do they get these ideas from message boards and forums?

You can't dispute his talent, but at this point, I'd argue he's too old...

The johnny idea is perfect though.

Totally, i could see him doing that so good.
Hes a fuckin good actor and that role suits his crazy eccentric characters role that he is so good at playing.

only 5 or 6 years older than Depp, but I see your point. It makes more sense if the audience has the illusion that Batman and a villain such as the Riddler or Joker are about the same age.


I'm guessing if they do have the Riddler, he wont have a green jumpsuit, or at least I hope, prolly something along these lines
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1b/RiddlerGA.JPG/250px-RiddlerGA.JPG)

Just got back from watching it for the third time and I noticed a lot  I didnt previous.

I must be the only one who didnt realize that it was Gordon driving the armor car with Dent inside........

Also, Batman had to take the fall at the end because who else could it be blamed on? Also Batman just assaulted the entire SWAT team etc and the Joker was captured, so they couldnt blame him.

Im sure that there is gonna be about a year and a halfs worth of casting rumours for the next movie, if there even is one. And I dont understand how people cant see the Penguin working.  He is the only character that they would not have to change at all to fit into Nolan's version of Batman.  Depp in anything is great, but if they do the Riddler, Im sure it will be another "out of left field" casting, al la Bale and Ledger. 

how could they make you believe a man was raised by penguins in a sewer and becomes a crime lord though?

For gods sake - when will they learn????

They restarted the series because of the excess - 25 villians and heros in a single film

...and what have they done with the reboot? The exact same thing

Ras al ghul and Scarecrow

Joker and Two Face

Riddler and Penguin

Is it so much to ask we have ONE villian in a film?

If you cant write a decent story with a single villian then maybe they shouldn't bother making the film at all

Two face was so utterly squandered in TDK, he had so much potential....

Can someone explain to me why half his suit at the end was burnt when (during the fire) he was wearing a white shirt? Is there some tailor that knocks out custom villian gear between scenes?

Did he go home and over-iron a suit himself?

Utter stupidity

TDK was enjoyable - but at times it was so badly written one wonders if they didnt just ad lib scenes....

Two Face killing 5 people.....Maroni, Driver, (himself) - thats three.....good ol' counting there Nolan....

True this. I mean seriously, look at a trilogy like Star Wars (original trilogy)... one bad guy throughout 3 films (Darth Vader). Makes the villain much more interesting and keeps the series together.

That being said, Heath Ledger is dead so I know THAT (bad guy across multiple films) can't really happen. I would however like it if they kept it to one bad guy this time around...  :-\

Thats Burtons Penguin.   The penguin from the source material is just a crimelord.  Just like Catwoman is not a woman given powers by cats.

No, they restarted the series because Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were horrible movies, regardless of how many villians.  Its not impossible to have a good movie with two villians, it just needs to be done well. And you are complaining about something that hasnt even happened yet.  Riddler and Penguin havent been confirmed.  Hell, a third movie hasnt even been confirmed.

jesus, thank god then!!!!!! Well ok, we shall see.

But i still prefer a more active bad guy, not someone that gets others to do it for him.

Though i really think they need to use Twoface a bit more, he had a HUGE role in the cartoons, they cant kill him off so soon, they must have an excuse to bring him back into it.

With Ledger's death would it have really been so difficult to re-film the end with Dent surviving?

C'mon Nolan (and the the thousands of studio exec's) - dont you think about such things?

...judging from the lengthy and pointless Hong Kong scenes I'm guessing 'thinking' was not something that they spent much time on

Oh look an explosion!

I think they could use Dent in the next film, sure they had the funeral but they could work it as as surviving Dent is locked away from the public eye and said to be dead to keep his legacy intact for what he did for Gotham. Thats just my opinion, I'm sure they could find a more creative way of bringing him back if need be

He also kills the cop in the bar and presumably Ramirez as well. That's why Gordon says: "He killed 5 people, 2 cops".

No, Ramirez was allowed to live after the coin toss.

From imdb's FAQ:


When Gordon says "Five dead," what five is he referring to?

At the end of the film, Gordon says, "five dead, two of them cops," referring to Harvey Dent's (Two Face's) victims, but it isn't completely clear how Gordon arrived at this number.

Here is what we know and what we can speculate on:

The first death was Detective Wuertz, who Dent shot in the bar.

Then, just before the car ride where Dent kills Maroni, we see Maroni get into his car with another passenger entering from the other side. Maroni is surprised when he starts talking to the person who is supposed to be in the car with him, and then realizes it's Dent instead. We can assume Dent killed the passenger to take his place in the car.

Next was Maroni's driver, who Dent shoots, and then Maroni himself, who we presume died in the resulting crash.

The tally is now four: Wuertz, Maroni's driver, Maroni, and the unnamed passenger.

Since Ramirez (the female cop) was only punched out and not killed, the fifth would have to be the cop in the hospital, the one who goes to retrieve Harvey, only to be gunned down by the Joker. Since no one knows that the Joker was there, it would be presumed that Harvey killed him--though we in the audience know better.

Gordon might mean Dent himself. But that would only leave one cop among the five dead; and he says there are two. It's also possible that more of Dent's murders were filmed but cut out of the final release, resulting in this slight continuity problem.

Indeed the cop in the bar took a bullet, but Ramirez lives...and Dent does say as much

...the real point however is - why would anyone have blamed him for those deaths?

Who knew it was him? There were no witnesses - why would Maroni + Driver deaths be even liked to Dent? Might have been DNA in the car, but they got those results done mighty quick if thats the case! Even DNA would be circumstantial - especially when the Joker was running amock with Dent's DNA on playing cards anyway...

Was it really so hard to blame the Joker?

So I'm clearly not alone in thinking that Bale's "growly Batman voice" is occasionally both irritating and laugh-out-loud funny:

http://www.newsarama.com/film/ap-080804-dark-knight-bale-voice.html

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080803/121779624000.html

Also, I'm saddened to hear about Morgan Freeman's car accident.  Here's to a speedy recovery!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-08-04-freeman-accident_N.htm

It doesn't annoy me to the point that I'd complain about it though.

Look the like same article twice BTW.

Yeah, that annoyed me too.  I kept thinking "Hock that thing up, would ya!"

i love the voice, its great cheese, kinda Clint Eastwood sounding.

Yet another record set:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-08-05-dark-knight-record_N.htm

awesome, but i think it might take longer then two weeks to reach 500 million. i went to see it again on monday and the theater wasnt even that packed. saw it around 4pm and id say not even the last two rows on top would have gotten filled up if all of thee audience sat right next to each other.

Ehh....matinees.  I had the same experience at a matinee, only I went about three days after it came out.  I'd be interested to see what % of the box office take comes from matinees.  My guess would be about 10%.

They will have another huge weekend as nothing is coming out
U figure the next big movie coming out is Tropic Thunder August 13th

So it should have another big week

it isnt gonna make 600 million but a little over 500 million is a guarantee.

I would guess 50 million this weekend, then 25 then 20, then 15 then 10 then a couple of 8's.

so id guess it will finish around 540 million.

more like 25 - 30 for the weekend . should have another close weekend for the top spot with Pineapple Express .

so anyone hear about any villians in the next one besides Two-Face?

their will not be two face .


as for the the next baddie well they haven;t even started on the script yet. so who knows. I think they have a good idea but nothing set in stone.

who said no two face?

besides your gut feeling

Didn't he die?

yeah he did ... someone really should have seen the movie before posting.

I've seen it twice thanks   :D

and we won't know if he really died or not  ;)

Two-Face aint dead, but Im hoping for the Riddler.  Catwoman and Penguin would be cool too. Ive heard they want to do a villian that hasnt been on film yet, which would be hard to do.  Scarface, Mad Hatter, Man-Bat?  I dont think so.  Clayface?  Nolan cant do any of these with the route he took.

i read in THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER that Johnny Depp is being 'considered' to play The Riddler, as well as Phillip Seymore Hoffman  for The Pengiun.      thats what i read thats not what im hoping for.

i'm not sure what i'd like to see for the next movie-- the joker story is far too good to drop, and i'm not totally against a re-casting of the part.

Ya, movies.ign.com also reported sometime last week that Depp was in the running for Riddler and Hoffman for Pengiun. At first it was rumored that Depp may take over the Joker role but that apparently has been axed. I'd still say its a little to early to really tell where their going with it. I'm sure they have a general story they want to do but as far as casting goes, I wouldn't expect it too soon.  :smoking:

two face isnt dead...the coin landed heads up when he fell....ive heard from multiple places that he is in the next one..

Was Two Face's dead body, Batman checking the body for life and the subsequent funeral not proof enough he's dead?

Two Face should return - but Nolan ain't clever enough for that so instead we'll get a small battalion of lesser villians squeezed into a running time now exceeding 4 hrs :confused:

Possible storylines for Batman 3 could include:

Why direct hits from RPG's dent police cars but destroy Batmobiles

How a man with broken ankles walks within hours of the event

Where a fugitive gets a trendy half burnt suit in just a couple of hours

How Commissoner Gordon's maths is shot to hell

How 30 million phones have built in sonar devices

...they got plenty to work with, and if thats not enough they could tie in with the first film and address things like how a ''microwave gun'' vaporises water in pipes but in the human body

Why so serious?!

or maybe they could just put in some  cars turning into robots.

Or maybe you can realize its only a movie about batman and learn how to suspend dis-belief. Because you know batman itself is such a realistic story, how could they not do everything how it happens in the real world?  :smoking:

I hope people dont analyze every fictional movie they watch like they have this film. Its like this movie was so good, people must find some fault with it.

The same people who will criticize batman are the same ones that can believe in transformer cars, or Dinosaurs coming to life or fucking Star Wars.

Its a MOVIE

although the broken ankles one is funny, sad part is, I didnt even think of that.

When I saw him walking, I figured it must've been a sprain!

I'm really hoping they cast Philip Seymour Hoffman as Penguin.

Danny DeVito did a good job with the role, but I bet Philip would totally own the role the way Heath Ledger did with The Joker :)

btw izzy commented on how twoface got his burnt jacket later, n didnt have it on.

i watched the movie again today, when he sets on fire he has the jacket on :)

I liked Devito as the penguin i just don't think this penguin would suit him. I've always thought of him as more of a comedic actor and don't think a more serious penguin role would really suit him. The one he played was more of a comedic one and he did well but this one will be much more serious much darker.

Danny Devito as a villain Equals Horrible idea. Who the fuck can take him seriously?

Thats like Corey Feldman being a tough guy. just unbelievable.

Danny wasn't that fucking bad , D.

Hoffman h as been rumored for the penguin role even going  back to when The Dark Knight was still in the scripting stage. the role is his to take or pass. If they indeed go with the penguin

The Penguin is the second worst villian in the history of Batman.   Second only to Mr. Freeze.

Well, as long as Nolan is directing, there wont be a penguin, catwoman or robin. ( and probably a bunch of other classless acts)

You don't enjoy movies much, do you?

Are you judging from the movie?  Or in general?  Because Freeze, and Penguin for that matter, are awesome villians. 

catwoman would be fine with me.   Batman is going to need a new love interest.

I think Gordon is sort of playing the role of Robin in this series.   It works, so I hope they don't bring in Robin either.

He only likes Michael Bay movies, here's the script he was hoping for:

(http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/michaelbaytdk1.jpg)
(http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/baytdk5.jpg)
(http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/baytdk4.jpg)
(http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/baytdk3.jpg)
(http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/baytdk2.jpg)

Bullshit.
He was pretty cool in his own repulsive way!


 

I call bullshit too.

The Penguin rules :smoking:

going to see this in IMAX on Monday, finally! :D

I just saw it tonight! finally!
all I can say is R.I.P Heath Ledger :-\

I have the greatest Avatar ever

!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=52741.0 !!!!!!!!!!!!

No, not really

But I did enjoy the Dark Knight - i saw it before any of you did via an advanced screening and then saw it again straight after.

I cant help that I pay attention, ya know not everyone is this world is some brain dead republican voting trailer park urchin

The Dark Knight was a stupid, overlong and very poorly written film

...but i enjoyed it for its daftness (wrecked tumbler can still ''transform'' into Batpod) and Heath Ledger's performance

Actually i dont like any Michael Bay film and thought Transformers was pretty dreadful

I did like the transformation effects though :)

You're a laugh a minute. You saw, err,


... You saw it on the 23rd? Wow, a full... (2, 3, 4...) week after the Aussie and US release dates. Big man.

If you saw it on the 23rd, I could have seen it then too!, via an advanced screening. Well, I couldn't have, or I would have done. I was working.

Speaking of which, if you were working with British release dates, then I saw Transformers about three weeks before it got its release over here. Via an advanced screening!, no less. And you're right. It was shit. Anyway. Testicles away for the time being.


People need merely read this thread through to see what a joke you can be! Lets face it... You just cannot bear to bring yourself to side with the masses.

And I don't blame you. But for all your intellectual bravado, why can you not just accept that it was two and a half hours well spent? That is all everything boils down to; wasted time. And rightly so. But when you don't feel that it has been wasted there should be absolutely no problem. But there usually is. Why does there have to be a footnote to everything with you!

Gotta agree with Jim.

why would u sit through a 2 and a half movie TWICE if it sucks so bad?

What about the tits?  :D

TDK is #1 again in the box office  ;D

here are the top two

1 The Dark Knight             Warner Bros. Pictures Distribution    $26,030,000    $441,541,000
2 Pineapple Express    Sony Pictures Releasing                    $22,400,000    $40,474,000    

ill give it about a month before it reaches 500 million

I don't know, I thought Jim Carrey transitioned to serious roles pretty well in The Truman Show, Man on the Moon, and The Majestic.

someone in the UK paper "the sun" reviewed it saying that heath ledger was nothing special and that anyone could do the role in future films if needed.
However i do not agree at all, i thought he was fantastic and anyone else doing the role will have a very hard time trying to do it in the same way

Views people?

oh and for uk members i do not buy the sun :) im a times man

i dunno i found it slightly boring. the joker was entertaining though, if it weren't for Heath i probably would have fallen asleep

FINALLY saw this movie.

VERY entertaining. I'll prob see it again in the theaters (IMAX next time) and I rarely do that.  The ending was great, can't wait to see how the 3rd one goes with Bats on the run...

I've heard there are talks of Johnny Depp playing the Riddler.  I pray its just talk.

I personally feel they should go a new route and show someone we haven't seen yet.  Clayface would be great.  But it seems they want to keep the newer Batmans more realistic.

Great movie. 

I am planning to see it again this week, i can't wait!!!

must see IMAX again....!

btw, i think Heath's joker is pretty much untouchable!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080812/film_nm/darkknight_dc;_ylt=AnP.WZoZZ4ZSprnQgc34jP1xFb8C

I don't put much stock in what the studio "predicts" its opening weekend far exceeded what they "predicted".

I agree actually, I think this could potentially break the record, by sheer fact that people want to see it broke. IF it keeps at this pace , fans will want to keep goin to if for nothing else to break titanic record. , and I think enough die hards are out there as it gets closer and closer will make the push for this record to be broken. jmo

Yeah i think people knowing it has the potential to break the record will make people want to break it and really try.

saw it in IMAX yesterday, and boy was it greatt!


: ok:

I really doubt people will go and the see the movie more than once just to break a record. This is not like the internet and online voting. Your ticket cost is like a drop in the ocean. That being said, a lot of people are going (myself included) to watch the movie a second time, simply to see Ledger's performance once again and to understand the story in full, now that some of the more confusing plot details are known. (a.k.a the whole Ramirez thing).

I bet Cat Woman is in the next film.  just remembered something Fox says to Batman about how the new suit is good against "cats" too.

who should play her? Angelina?  that'd be SO hot.

Easy there, big fella! 

Odds are Angelina would be the first cat woman carrying a litter. :rofl:  The woman's a breeding machine.

I doubt it.

I think the comics lead to Robin after this film, but I doubt that will happen.

Twoface will return with someone else, I think.

will dbz be as a massive  failure as db anime fans are expecting it to be?

yes yes it will.  james masters is the only one with any hope of keeping it alive but it will fail

by the way ive never watched DBZ and never intend to :)

what the fuck does that have to do with the dark knight???

lol i thought that as well but still answered it :)

we shall see, I'd be surprised if we ever see Robin.  maybe NightWing, but robin is considered to be a total joke by the avg. person.  I"ll bet you a Coke that Cat Woman is in the next film!!!

how good would it be if they get Jim Carey back to do riddler not that he would take it as he never does "sequels" and don't people say he did ace Ventura as that was a one off.

it would be a terrible idea.  they should try to distance themselves from those films as much as possible.  I really dont know how anyone can say the first batman movies were good at all (esp when compared to dark knight and batman begins).

Its easy to say, because they are.  The first two, anyway.

you can't really compare them since they are totally different styles however the riddlers character can't change that much can it? but if the rumour of johnny depp are true i think that might be a bad move (as much as i do like his acting)

You honestly mean to tell me that Batman Returns with the Penguin and Catwoman was a good movie  :rofl:

First one is so over rated. 

i think he could change, I mean a lot of people thought Nicholson's Joker was amazing, but Ledger's performance makes ole' Jack look like, well... a clown ;)

Depp could make him a little darker, while still having a playful/crazy touch to it.  Picture Jack Sparrow, but a lot more evil....

Riddler is a lame character though.  two-face would have been really good. shame hes dead.

i think my Angelina/Cat Woman guess was a good one....  I read online today she was talking the part over with Tera Patrick (totally hot).

Riddler would be a lot different. Instead of being campy and joking (Carey's performance was like a modern day Gorshin, which isn't always a bad thing) they would focus on the narcissism and the compulsion to leave clues at crimes. The Riddler's first appearance in the 90s Animated Series is really good, actually. They did Riddler especially well. I would like Two-Face to return but I don't see it happening.

Robin will not be in it if Nolan is directing, and probably won't be in it even if someone else takes over. Bale has also stated that he doesn't want Robin. And given the timeline (respecting source material has been a huge part of this Batman franchise) he couldn't be Nightwing while Bruce is still young. Robin's just a little kid right now, probably not even 5 years old.

I hope that there won't be Catwoman or Penguin. Riddler would be my first choice, maybe with Deadshot as a second.

Hardly.  Nolan felt like he had to make it realistic so it wouldnt be a "comic-book" movie.  As if thats a bad thing.  How is that respecting the source?  I do respect the filmakers for not crapping on the source material, and changes are always nessesary when you adapt to film, but taking all the fantasy and wonder out just bothers me.

These two Nolan films have paid more direct respect to Batman stories than any other Batman series. Begins is very clearly a Batman: Year One influenced story. Joker's madness and motivation is taken right from The Killing Joke. The Harvey Dent character is done like he was in The Long Halloween. Maybe he's drawing from modern Batman classics of the 80s and 90s but all the philosophies and motivations match up. Very much unlike Burton, who had Batman kill people and let Joker die.

Fantasy and wonder was what Burton brought to the table, not the comics.  I honestly don't know how anyone who is a fan of the comics can watch those and say "WOW! They NAILED IT!!!!"  Those movies are abortions.

As GNR-now says you can tell these films have been inspired by the batman stories where its more realistic and darker.  I'm actually worried they are going to run out of realistic major villains.  I really don't want to see Mr. Freeze or poison ivy.  I still think clay face would be bad ass.  Ventriloquist/Scarface could be cool, would tie into the whole mob thing of the 1st two movies.  Cat woman, if done in the year 1 vein, could be pretty cool too, and now that batman is minus one love interest he could use someone else.  but i don't think she can carry a movie.  riddler/penguin are so fucking lame though.

Kinda contradictory there, dont you think?  You say that Nolan and co. Batman is faithful, yet they limit the villians they can use because of the realistic philosophy that they took.  Burton did not add the fantasy and wonder to Batman, he embraced it.  Batman, and super-heroes in general, are fantasy.  And yes, most people coming out of the theater in 89 did say, "wow, they nailed it."  As opposed to a lot of people I talked to about Dark Knight who came out saying, "Eh. it was alright."   I dont want to turn this into Burton vs. Nolan.  Thats not the point Im trying to make.  I actually enjoy both versions alot.   But Dark Knight is far from flawless, and hardly the end-all, be all representation of Batman and Joker.  The Joker is a maniac with permenantly white skin, green hair, and smile. He kills with joy-buzzers, acid flowers, and joker gas,dancing while he does it.  Now who represented that more, Ledger or Jack?  Ledgers performance was outta this world.  Which is why I think the movie is so successful.  He owned it. But saying its "better" or more faithful to the "source" is flat out wrong.
   

People came out of TDK saying it was just alright? That's news to me. I thought it was in the top 5 of imdb at one point and was the biggest blockbuster iin years. Burton didn't embrace the comics at all, he admitted he never really read them. He said he liked The Killing Joke once but TDK's interpretation of Joker is way closer to TKJ's than Burton's is.

Anyways, I agree a Burton v Nolan debate, however hilariously one-sided (every part of Nolan's films is better imo) is a bad way for this tread to go.

After a little time off from this movie, I will say I like Gotham in Begins much more. In TDK it seems like the atmosphere and look of it are less unique and more like a regular Chicago.

agreed, there is nothing to debate  :hihi:

good observation about gotham.  I think since most of BB took place in the narrows (which was just scum city) you got the look and feel of a gritty, ugly gotham.  i think in TDK though you were supposed to get the impression that things were turning around and Dent was really making a difference, that it was becoming a bit brighter.

as for being contradictory, not at all.  you could introduce a character like riddler/penguin or even something more unrealistic like killer croc/clayface and still not have it be a fucking joke, cartoony over the top joke-fest.  I'm surprised you don't see the WHAM, BAM, KA-PLOW effects in the originals, feels like you should.  :hihi:

Villians that could work for the next batman movie could be

The Penguin-would become the new mob boss

Catwoman-Batmans new love intrest with Rachel dead

Mr.Freeze-Trying to find a cure and would have some resemblance to batman seeking revenge to bring Nora back.

The Riddler is gonna be the best.

They can make The Riddler dark and mysterious. Look at what Ledger did for the joker, U let Depp make The Riddler more complex and more twisted and it could be on par with the Joker.

The Riddler doesnt seem like he could fill a whole movie as a villian

Yeah, well Batman will be THE "Villain" for probably the first half until The Riddler comes a long and makes Gotham take him back. 

are you secretly the films writer? that sounds good

I was talking about real world reactions and conversations.  Not internet polls and box-office numbers. The second Pirates movie made a boat-load more than the first, but is it better? And internet rankings do not reflect the majority of opinions.  I am pretty much forced to talk about Batman everyday, with friends,co-workers,  and strangers.  With people over 20.  Thats where I hear a lot of other opinions and feelings on Dark Knight.  Also, I didnt say that Burton embraced the comics, I said he embraced the fantasy.

The Riddler pscyologicially would be a threat to Batman, we also could have Bane in this movie but he isnt a strong enogh villian character wise

got to remember that the story goes that riddler is an employee working for Wayne enterprises i don't see how this could fit into the new style of films as we have not really seen any employees or their work places.

I'm sure they could do that. We've seen board meetings, and remember the guy who figured out the Wayne was Batman? He was a worker there - and he could've been The Riddler (he wasn't, but had his character been named E. Nygma...)

Bane might work if they made his origin plausible and did him faithfully to the original character creation in the comics. B+R had Bane as a joke, just a big dumb guy, but really Bane is a very intelligent person. They could also tie in the drug side of that - Bane isn't always a bad guy. He hates drug dealers.

Remember the scene with the big black guy on the boat, who throws out the detonator, he should be the new Bane

the guy who they tried to kill, and the guy who was going to give up bruce wayne as batman?

ok i stand corrected :P

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=40745783

I hope this guy doesnt get any job within the franchise, he's a has been shitty actor

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/08/12/from-90210-to-gotham-city-brian-austin-green-makes-pitch-for-riddler-casting/

Now we know the first villian of the third movie

Nah, we probably wont know that for another year.  They havent even confirmed a third movie yet, even though it is a given.  But I  agree that it should be Riddler.  Goyer has hinted that he has an idea for a villian that hasnt been on film yet, but who knows.

The main villian would be the poilce for him being labeled a vigilante then maybe the cops hook up with The Riddler

probably not.

actually there are talks of bringing Angelina Jolie to be catwoman.. we'll see where that goes.

every scene with the joker was brilliant in the dark knight. and it really is no surprise, to be expected in fact, that the next movie to complete the trilogy will have batman as the outlaw that the law enforcement is hunting for the murders dent had committed.

making the riddler a villain is a possibility but he's not really a major villain in the comics.. especially according to year one, the long halloween, and dark victory.. the comics that batman begins and the dark knight returns were mostly based on.

lets not forget Ra's Al Ghul.. he's not dead. he can always be brought back through the use of his numerous Lazarus Pits.

but the riddler HAS been on film. remember jim carrey?

(http://cravingideas.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/riddler.jpg)

i don't think he was talking about the riddler when he said villian that has not been on film yet

but nice picture :)

I went to see this film a couple of nights ago, and even though I'm not a big fan of Batman it was a pretty cool movie. But I gotta say that it was mostly because of The Joker and Ledgers great performance, wonderful character.. and actually that was the only reason I even went to see this :P

i watched the dark night yesterday. it was a decent movie i guess but did not understand what the hype was all about.

Ledger was great and the screenplay was very good at times but other than that it was just an ordinary action movie .

i cant understand how people can compare this to Heat or how it has the 2nd biggest rating on imdb ::)

still prefer tim burtons films, esp the one with penguin : ok:

the movie and the script clearly states the fate of twoface.

though i will say that i was hoping to see it a little more open ended about him and then feature him as a more brutal version of batman that batman now has to take down.

yeah i don't see what other A list villain is left for the upcoming movie

as far as never filmed...no "A" lister left.  None that would work with Nolans version anyways.  Man-Bat, Clay-Face, Croc are all pretty popular, but wouldnt work. Hugo Strange or Scarface I could see. My vote is for Riddler, though.

I far as I know,
CHER is playing Catwoman.
Not joking, sadly.

EDIT: Just found out
Warner Brothers denied this
Yesterday.  Thank God!!!

Splash

/Mike

As far as I hear, Angelina Jolie wants the Catwoman gig pretty bad.  I guess it could work, but I'm kind of bored by her.  Same with Kate Beckinsale....they're played out on the action movie stuff. 

Scarlet Johansen please :drool:

(http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/2638/scarlettjohansson10gt2.jpg)

^
Yeah, definitely the hottest actress right now.

But the bitch can't act!!

Absolutely.

She's pretty much only doing Woody Allen movies right now, but if the Batman folks wanted her bad enough, I'm sure she'd come aboard :)


I disagree.

She's impressed me with every movie I've seen her in.

Yeah, you could really see her acting range in "the Island"  :hihi:

just kidding, i think shes an OK actress with a lot of potential. not catwoman though.  Angelina is a no brainer if you ask me.  shes sexy, can kick ass and "looks" more catomwan then scarlet,

Yeah, Angelina would be perfect if she could get rid of that cheesy, tough woman stare thing she does......

I got to do a line from the movie today in Lab. It was hilarious.

I had my partner on the Table and told her I was gonna raise the table up.

I put my foot on the control and as the table started rising I said in my Joker voice *I can do a perfect voice no bullshit* "And Here........ We.... GO!

I had them rolling!

Best Joker line to attempt is the "hi" from the hospital: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMmUVCsYTjI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMmUVCsYTjI) ;D

The Dark Knight has breached the $500M mark, being only the second film after Titanic to do so. : ok:

Did it do it in record time?

Yup, it did it in 6 weeks, Titanic took 3 months.
Story here (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2008150956_eye01.html).

Titanic may actually be in serious trouble.

Yeah, just $98M to go and plenty of time...

Yeah even if it comes out on dvd for christmas which i expect it to thats still likely another month or two it will be in theaters.

December 7th i think is the dvd date.

and no titanic is not going to fall . it would be nice but not going to happen.

No chance unless something Crazy happened. If they could get it into some more Imax theaters, then it is possible. we have an Imax here but it never got TDK. If they were to get it, I'd go watch it two more times.

It will leave theaters by Mid October or so

So u figure it has about 6 more weeks............... I say it will top out about 525 million.

Basically cause with quicker DVD releases, movies dont stay in the theaters long anymore.

If it stayed in there 3 more months, it would break it slowly but surely.

dvd scr is already out  :hihi:

Is it? Thanks for the heads up on that :D

hey i know i'm late to this but just saw the film and although i think the film was good.... it wasn't the blockbuster i was expecting.

I have to say Heath Legder was brilliant, and i feel bad for thinking that maybe his performance was exagerated due to his death. It clearly wasn't, but without him in the film i feel like it would have been average. Batman didn't do that much and has the most annoying voice EVER.

but The Joker kept you wanting more and i think he rescued an average film and made it good and worth buying.

The movie is getting a re-release in January.  Oscar consideration is obvious, but you have to wonder what it can do for it's overall gross as well.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3iaad57ccf4b9889b673305871165282b0

I think the hollywoodreporter is wrong about its chances of catching titanic still at least domestically especially if its gonna get a re release in IMAX. People will go see that.

i've only seen crappy ones.
none that are 'top notch'.


about the rerelease, does this happen a lot? I don't remember movies being released, then put out on DVD, then back into theatres?

The screener is good if you don't mind the flashing date and property of time warner off and on. I don't remember a re release like this ever.

Star Wars did something like this. In 1982 A New Hope was rereleased before Return of The Jedi came out.

In 1997 the trilogy was also rereleased with its new CGI and added scenes.

If TDK wanted to make more money in a rerelease then they should add in a few deleted scenes and give people a reason to see it.

That would be an excellent idea to add some of the deleted scenes. I'd go to an IMAX to see that.

Maybe there is an alternate ending floating around somewhere? :o

I freaking loved this movie, kinda like you know everyone. I mean I had high hopes and they were surpassed in every aspect!

Do you think it will make 1 billion worldwide without a second release?

Well, unfortunately it doesn't look like it's going to beat Titanic's domestic record after all. Only $75m short at $525m.

Unless it does it in the re release in the IMAX theaters in Janurary.

WB to Re-Release The Dark Knight Jan. 23
Source: Warner Bros. Pictures
December 5, 2008


Warner Bros. Pictures is bringing The Dark Knight back for a return engagement in theaters and IMAX on January 23, 2009, giving audiences one more chance to see the film on the big screen. The film will re-open nationwide, it was announced today by Dan Fellman, Warner Bros. Pictures President of Domestic Distribution.....

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51037

i cant wait to get the DVD, it comes out this monday.

A must have christmas present XD

All you guys talking about TDK catching up with Titanic

Do you know what inflation is??

Well you take Titanic's gross - factor in a decades worth of inflation and THAT is its gross compared with TDK

if you want to talk about inflation then lets bring gone to the wind in this bitch .

with inflation Titanic might not be in the top ten all time. hell Gone has Titanics ww # just about With Domestic alone.

He'll never let go, man.

Never let go.

his hear will go on , on and on ....

I remember reading TDK would have to do over $900 million to match Titanic's 1997/98 ticket sales.

That makes sense since tickets didn't cost then what they do now.

How anyone could sit through Titanic is beyond me.

I got me the DVD today ;D. If you buy it in HMV, it comes with a comic book version of the opening bank robbery scene. Random, but sorta cool.

Gonna get mine tonight at Best buy. You get a free figurine.  Best Buy is doing a midnight sale. Funny, theyll open up at midnight for Dark Knight....

Yeah, they will open for the 2nd biggest movie ever.

and your point? way more people are going to buy Dark Knight.

You know my point dude. "2nd biggest movie ever"  and "MOST ANTICIPATED Album of all time" arent that much different. However, since Best Buy has to worry about people buying Dark Knight from Walmart and Target, they are doing what they can to get people to buy from them.  Im just pointing out that Best Buy is willing to do midnight openings, and should have done one for CD. Exclusive to Best Buy killed the album sales.

Yeah but more people buy DVDs plus with The Blu Ray etc. They will make a shitload more cash on it.

Dark knight will sell a couple million copies on it's first day alone.So , even for best buy it is a bigger money maker the Cd .

Apples and oranges, I know.  I was just pointing out the willingness of Best Buy to do something special for a launch when they have to compete for sales.

Yeah, I didnt even think about that.

I guess with CD it was pointless to sell it early cause people weren't getting it from anywhere else.

True, but if Best Buy treated it like it was something special, and had a midnight sale for it, and made it out to be a big deal, it might have sold more.  Who knows?  Its a moot point now anyways.

Well, that may be true, but u made the point earlier. If other stores were in competition selling this, they would've had a midnight sale.

With Dark Knight. If u don't have a midnight sale, u are gonna lose business to Wal Mart and shit loads of other stores who are open 24 hours.

With CD, since they were the only people who had it, they didn't have to pay the Overtime and go through the hassle of keeping the store open.

I was a Titanic buff long before '97.  Hearing of the beautiful accuracy of the ship is what drew me to watch the movie.

A Night To Remember was a much better film.

Watching The Dark Knight on DVD

still awesome even on the 4th watch.

Why so serious?

Thats just a very good act from whoever the actor was. : ok:

I thought dude did better in broke back... just using spite a lube...lol

Yes, but that film portrayed the physical sinking of the ship in an inaccurate manner.

It has been a good ten years since I have seen A Night To Remember, they play it every now and then on Fox Movie Channel.

Kate Winslet's titties FTW.

With inflation I think Bambi comes in first. Then the usual suspects such as Gone With The Wind and Star Wars.

Naw , Gone is first with over 1.4 billion and the it's Star wars with over 1.2 Billion.
 


Dark Knight sells report .


"Dark Knight" Breaks Sales Records
By Garth FranklinThursday, December 11th 2008 12:04am
Over 600,000 Blu-ray copies and three million DVD copies of "The Dark Knight" have sold in the film's first day of release reports Deadline Hollywood Daily.

The previous Blu-ray record holder was "Iron Man" which took a week to sell 400,000 copies. Over seven million regular DVD copies of the film are expected to be sold by week's end.

To give you a comparison the bestselling DVD of last year was "Transformers" which sold nearly fourteen million units over the space of around twelve weeks. "Finding Nemo" is the best selling DVD of all time with 30 million copies sold as of last year.

Bambi clocks in at 3,3 billion if you go by the cpi.

60 years of the Federal Reserve can be a lot more than you think.

The most accurate thing would be admissions, but I haven't seen any numbers on that.

According to box office mojo " bambi is only at $451,084,100 which places it at # 46 domestically. not sure about world wide.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

I'm talking world wide of course. I took the numbers from imbd and calculated them myself. With that SW and GWTW both land in the 2+ billion mark, with Titanic around 2 billion. TDK is a big film no doubt, but these other movies are historical events.

There are also different estimates depending on the source. Inflation isn't always cut and dry.

ww you are probably right. you also have to take into account some of these films have had multiply rereleases in theater.

Warner's whole biggest film of the past decade is domestically though. Cause world wide it would only rank third .

Anyone want to talk about the actual movie, and how the two-disc dvd is a complete let down?

I can't believe that I saw this film 3 times at the cinema and watched it on DVD and still never made the connection between Dent getting half his face covered in petrol/gasoline/whatever when he was tied to the chair and him getting that side of his face burned. I just thought half his face happened to catch fire. I had to find that out from Wikipedia. How didn't I get that?

My short attention-span aside, it's still a great film but one of those that's definitely even better on a big screen. :yes:

I decided to get it anyway, even though there aren't any interviews on the 2nd disc. i hope at least some of it is interesting...

I just bought the single disc.

I looked on the back and the extra disc looked pathetic.

I can't believe they possibly could've fucked up a great movie like this on the extras/bonus

Is there even a director's commentary?

i guess they're waiting for the extra special edition or something!

Brilliant, they push the br format at a higher price, then they release a lackluster dvd that they know the nerds are going to buy at least twice when additional editions are brought out. Nolan sits on his ass for 2 hours, give us another 30 bucks!

Does the Blu Ray have more extras?

No, they're both shitty, but at least the br got the picture and sound quality thing going for them.

I had a blu ray player for a while and I'll be honest, the new DVD players that have the chip or whatever that converts regular DVDS to look HD on HD Tv's for me are just as good.

I got my dark knight in one of those new DVD players and it looks HD on my HD TV and the sound through my Surround Sound system sounds amazing.

So Blu Ray is great don't get me wrong but I think for the price, regular DVD with the newer DVD players is close enough.

^ that is pretty much why blue ray version sold 600,000 compared to the plain dvd version 3 million on the first day.

I think the main reason is that there are WAY more people with DVD players right now compared to blue ray.

that one part , the price of the players is too damn high for some then the disc are too.

Yeah, I always used my PS3.

I don't know why u just wouldn't buy a PS3 instead of a stand alone Blu Ray. At least u are getting bang for your buck.

Blu ray players really are starting to come down though. There is one at bestbuy a panasonic BD-35K for $250. Thats not too terrible and its supposed to be really good. It got cnet editor award for having good video and audio and it does the upconversion for standard dvd.

Hey did you watch the movie with your eyes closed the first 3 times?  :rofl:

I think I may have done :hihi: It was like "Oh, he's getting covered in gasoline. That's unfortunate." Then, by the time Batman dragged him out the building, I'd forgotten.

U had food and was eating during that part every single time right!

I went to the movies once, Cant remember now what I even saw but I had to pee so bad. anyhow i said fuck it and went.

Ill be damned if i didn't go watch the movie again and the same thing happened at the same part. i just held it though but I can see how u miss stuff like that.

agreed, i saw some deals for around 200 recently also.  Personally i'm planning to get a ps3 as my blue ray player.

Yeah that one still seems to be the best all around as far as features and all. Some people just want a blu ray player and that would make the ps3 mostly a waste. I'd go for the ps3 if i would use it for all the other stuff i can do with it but i probably wouldn't. I'm not much of a gamer

And you should get Rock Band 2 to complete the experience.