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Title: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Rapunzel on July 14, 2008, 01:03:30 AM
In the vid, why is Axl underground his own gravestone which dates 1962-1990?

He looks like some monster, looks up and does a hand movement that ressembles a bird flying up through the headstone.

He does it earlier in the clip too when he wears those lycra shorts!  :rofl:

(He does this hand movement at the end of the song too at the Tokyo concert and sticks his tongue out.)  :P

And who is Joseph? When the baby comes out of the bath at the end of the vid - written is 'Thanx Joseph'.

This vid is loaded with stuff - also written at the end of it is - "There's alot goin' on" (I'll say!)  :yes:





Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Albert S Miller on July 14, 2008, 11:58:02 PM
There is a video called "The making of Don't Cry" It is part 1 of the so called trilogy, anyway is will tell you the answers you r looking for! :)


Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Rapunzel on July 15, 2008, 12:06:36 AM
Is there really a vid about the making of Don't Cry? Wow! Ta.   : ok:


Um, what's the so called trilogy?  When was it released?
Anyone seen these?


Do you know why Axl "dies" in 1990?




Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 15, 2008, 02:37:31 AM
Well Stolat, 1990 represents the death of "Old Axl."

He was a new man after that.

It's a big spiritual thing.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Rapunzel on July 15, 2008, 02:42:32 AM
 :o




Um, well, he was right on form at Tokyo 1992, I must say...



Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 15, 2008, 03:00:55 AM
:o




Um, well, he was right on form at Tokyo 1992, I must say...



Yes, yes you must!

(Get your hands on the "Making Of" videos, they are a must have!  They pop up on eBay every now and then.)


Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: slashisvr on July 16, 2008, 02:52:26 PM
Is there really a vid about the making of Don't Cry? Wow! Ta.   : ok:


Um, what's the so called trilogy?  When was it released?
Anyone seen these?


Do you know why Axl "dies" in 1990?




the so called trillogy, dont cry, november rain, estranged

the three videos are meant to tell a story and i believe they are based on the book by del james "the language of fear"



Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Rapunzel on July 16, 2008, 03:02:48 PM
Del is good at writing stories isn't he!


Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: CheapJon on July 16, 2008, 08:11:59 PM
Is there really a vid about the making of Don't Cry? Wow! Ta.   : ok:


Um, what's the so called trilogy?  When was it released?
Anyone seen these?


Do you know why Axl "dies" in 1990?




the so called trillogy, dont cry, november rain, estranged

the three videos are meant to tell a story and i believe they are based on the book by del james "the language of fear"



but since axl and stephanie broke up before the estranged-video were realesed, estranged became the fourth part instead of third..


Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Rapunzel on July 16, 2008, 10:35:05 PM
Hmmm.

Bet they don't explain the significance of Shannon Hoon in Don't Cry, the headache tablets in November Rain nor the dolphin car logo in Estranged. And if he were to make one about Paradise Cry, I bet that he wouldn't be able to explain the significance of Axl's white suit either or who the girl in white is in the hotel room just before Slash wakes up (and chucks a pillow)!

Let's start with Shannon. Why?



Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Albert S Miller on July 17, 2008, 01:19:41 AM
Hmmm.

Bet they don't explain the significance of Shannon Hoon in Don't Cry, the headache tablets in November Rain nor the dolphin car logo in Estranged. And if he were to make one about Paradise Cry, I bet that he wouldn't be able to explain the significance of Axl's white suit either or who the girl in white is in the hotel room just before Slash wakes up!

Let's start with Shannon. Why?


Actually it does talk about Shannon :) How do you know the tablets were for a headache? It looks like a prescription bottle . It also tells the signifigance of the dolphins, in fact it tells all you need to know, but if we tell you it wouldn't be any fun when you find the video. In fact I am pretty sure there are old threads regarding this.  You can also buy the book by Del James called the Language of Fear, which has the short story called "Without You" which inspired Axl to begin writing the supposed trilogy.  So you should first read the book and then the making of don't cry and then the making of november rain and the making of estranged.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Rapunzel on July 17, 2008, 02:00:52 AM
Nah, I wouldn't read anything written by Del James.  :)

Thanks though for your effort.



SOMEDAY is the significance of Shannon Hoon in the clip!  ::)


Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: Albert S Miller on July 17, 2008, 11:13:11 AM
Nah, I wouldn't read anything written by Del James.  :)

Thanks though for your effort.



SOMEDAY is the significance of Shannon Hoon in the clip!  ::)

Well you can watch the making of the videos on youtube.  You can watch there versus buying them.  I liked buying them myself, its part of my GNR collection. Would you read the story if you could google it and read on line?


Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: alejoyp on September 10, 2008, 03:59:35 AM
The Don't Cry video is about re-incarnation n' past lifes... remember that Axl was very into that stuff back in 90's (I don't know if he still into). He used to do a therapy of past lifes thru hipnosis or somethin' like that...
-He's psycho therapist was Suzzy London, which he knows thru the guys from Skid Row, she appeared in the video when Axl was shakin'...
-Didn't remember if Erin or Stephanie said once that Axl hit her because he said that in a past life both were indians n' she killed their sons..  :o N' that's maybe why he cannot have sons in the present  :o
-Also sometime was rumoured that Axl had disorders of multiple personalities, n' there is a part of the video when multiple Axls appeared at the same room when he just tried to get fine...

I really don't know if a lot of this stuff if real... maybe there just tons of BS... but I'm pretty sure (n' that's evident if you pay attention) that the video is about past lifes n' reincarnation... (The Axl in the snow, the actual Axl, the cemetery, the one under the graveyard who seems to reincarnate in that baby...)


Title: Re: Don't Cry Video!
Post by: LeftToDecay on September 11, 2008, 08:19:58 PM
Always really liked the video. Cool enough idea behind it, lots of nice scenes.
It never feels quite right for the song though.
Straightforward love ballad with straightforward message doesnt need a video like that or really benefit from it.
Come to think of it, with minimal editing Don't cry vid would be brilliant for Estraned!