Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Ted Nugent wrote this in response to today's Supreme Court ruling that individual Americans have the right to own guns for personal use, striking down a strict gun control law in Washington, DC. Ted was recently re-elected for his fifth term on the Board of Directors of the NRA (The National Rifle Association of America).

"'A 'SUPREME' COURT? I CAN DO BETTER' by Ted Nugent

"It is glaringly obvious that a critical lesson in history 101 is due in America, for it appears that not only does a lunatic fringe of anti-freedom Americans dismiss our founding fathers' clear declaration of independence and succinct enumeration of our God-given individual rights, but some Americans have the arrogance and audacity to question whether the right to self-defense is indeed one of these individual rights. Dear God in heaven, who could be this soulless? How about 4 out of the 9 so called 'Supreme' justices of the land. God help us all.

"Who could be so asinine as to believe that a free man has no such right to keep and bear arms for self-defense? What kind of low-life scoundrel would know that courageous heroes of the U.S. Military would volunteer over and over again to sacrifice and die for such self-evident truths, then turn around and spit on their graves by discounting the very freedoms that these brave men and women have died to protect?

"Will these supreme legal scholars also affirm an individual right to choose the religion of our individual choice? Do they authorize our individual freedom of speech? Can you imagine? Them is fighting words my friends, and the line drawn in the sand has never been more outrageous.

"Recent USA Today and Gallup polls showed a whopping 73% of good Americans know damn well that we are all created equal, and that we each have an individual right to protect our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. What kind of jackass doesn't know this? Allow the guitar player to translate for the soul-dead among us.

"Keep-this means the gun is mine and you can't have it. This does not mean I will register it with a government agency. The government works for 'we the people,' not the other way around, regardless of what Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein or Barack Hussein Obama or 4 supreme justices may try to tell you.

"Bear-this means I've got it right here, on me, either in my grasp or damn near. This does not mean locked away in a safe, trigger-locked or stored at the local sporting club.

"Shall not be infringed-this of course is another way of saying Don't tread on me, for we will not be your willing crime victims, subjects, servants or slaves, so don't even think about it.

"When the evil King's gangsters came to collect unfair taxes from Americans, we tossed their tea into the drink. When they came to disarm us into helplessness against their old world tyrannical ways, we met them at Concord Bridge and shot them dead till they quit treading on us. Any questions children? I didn't think so.

"Corrupt men cannot be trusted, hence the right of 'the people' to choose the individual church of our choice, to speak our individual ideas and beliefs, to have individual freedom from unwarranted searches and seizures, and ultimately, to exercise our individual right to keep and bear arms so that evildoers cannot do unto us that which we would not do unto them. Get it? I would love to meet the human being who would argue these points with us. We would be looking at a fascist, and of course fascists, by all historical and empirical evidence, must be eliminated.

"If you value the American Way, if you believe in the words and spirit of the US Constitution and our sacred Bill of Rights, if you know in your heart that you have the right, the duty, the spiritual obligation to protect yourself and your loved ones from evil in all of its forms, then you had best contact each and every one of your elected officials right away and let them know that you know exactly what the Second Amendment says and stands for. Remind them about the 'shall not be infringed' clause.

"It will not be the fault of the rotten anti-Americans out there who don't believe in individual rights that rape and pillage our Constitution, it will be the fault of those who know better but failed to speak up. Now is the time to fortify America, and we better inform the Supreme Court just who truly is the 'Supreme' Court of America-We the people. Individual people with individual, God-given rights. The real America. Live free or die."

Ted Nugent is a draft dodging pedophile chickenhawk who hasn't made a good album in 30 years. Just sayin'.

Bu-dum-bump! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PIdWdw15U&feature=related)

he never made a good ALBUM...give me Cat Scratch Fever and possibly Stranglehold and lets call it day....hes right about gun laws though

apparently that band he was in "damn yankees" was good, but ive never heard their material.

He is right in the sense that the government work for us. I think people forget that.

They were awful.

Free For All is a good album, so is his first one.

He may be right about gun laws, but he's a hypocrite about pretty much everything else. It's easy to be a blowhard patriot when you're wealthy and won't ever have to makes personal sacrifices.

The president certainly forgot .

I don't take sides in left or right, and think they are both the same in many ways.

But what I don't understand about the right wing is this...they many times talk about individual rights and freedoms which need to be defended, including having guns (which I agree with..I have 2 guns while it is even forbidden in my country, jail sentence of 4 years if I get caught)...and the right wing also talks how government must be smaller and not have much power over the people (again I agree).

...but then they go support this government, the Patriot Act and more communist pieces of paper like that which are there to take away your rights, curb your freedoms, give more power to the biggest money-grabbing government ever in the history of the USA....isn't that what the left wing would support?

What's going on?  :peace:

so his fame and fortune were obtained without making personal sacrifices?

He's gung ho about war and painting anti-war people as not supporting the troops and all that but he dodged the draft. That's the kind of thing I mean. I'm sure he has the usual sad tales of living out of cardboard boxes before making it as a rockstar.

I'm glad someone said it. The shit(pun intended) that asshole did to avoid service in Vietnam, and then turn into some kind warmongering freak ... ::)

But, he did have some kickass music.

Call him what you will......on this particular issue - the man is right

I stand firm with the Constitution, but I don't buy into his child like arguments.

That's fair enough....He's a little dramatic for my tastes too

He's right in the sense that he's preaching to the converted who keep him in the limelight and get him opinion piece work
and talk radio appearances now that he has no music career left to speak of. If he was really concerned about the constitution, freedom, privacy etc he'd be speaking out about stuff like FISA and telecom immunity. But he won't because he's a draft dodging pedophile chickenhawk pussy.

He played some good stuff on the TV show with BAZ.

Look, I think you should have the right to have a gun.  But I too think there are places which guns should not be allowed.  Not because I think Ted will shoot anyone, but someone could take the gun from Ted and shoot someone.  Bad people will get guns no matter what.  Imagine if during the superbowl everyone had a gun and one person fired a shot.  85,000 would be dead by the time its over. 

What if the Crips wanted to form a militia?  ;D

Nugent exercising his first amendment rights.

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/08/24/ted-nugent-threatens-to-kill-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton-during-vicious-onstage-rant/

Nugent wielded two machine guns while raging, ?Obama, he?s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,? he continued. ?You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.?

He's a good guitar player and he wrote some great songs, I won't deny that and that show was pretty cool. But why did he talk like he swallowed a whistle? Spent all his money on guns instead of going to the dentist I expect.

If guns are a "God given" right, why didn't cavemen have guns?

I mean...shouldn't God have sent down a stash?  Why were they denied this right?

DUMBEST

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Yes you have just made it

A caveman? 

I could be wrong, but a Caveman was probably allowed to pick up any club or tree branch he desired to protect himself

You're fucking kidding, right.  This isn't about tree branches.  It's about guns. 

How can something be a God given right if it hasn't been around for the majority of human existence? 

It's fucking retarded.  And my stupid analogy was, indeed, worthy of the argument the Nuge is making.

What did Cavemen ever do to you Freedom?  I see Cavemen all the time in Geico commercials.  I am sure they can have a gun if they want one.... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So if a smarter than average caveman ( See Geico comm) decided to invent a club with a poison snake tied to the end of it to defend himself, he would need the approval of the Governing Caveman board to use it?

And yes, this is retarded, but you're the one who brought up the Cavemen.........

I'm always having to shoo the cavemen off my lawn.  ;D


OK...fuck the cavemen.  My point is that the concept of a "God given right" makes no sense when applied to something that has only existed for a few hundred years.  It's like saying there's a God given right to drive a car.  It's complete nonsense.

Ted Nugent is a WORTHLESS A-HOLE.

I'm from Michigan, his home state, and I went to see him speak at a College about 6 years ago, and he said "If that woman gets elected to Governor I will have to run next time". Everyone was cheering for him. That woman he was talking about was Democrat Granholm.  She won and about 2 years ago about a year or so before the next election, before Dick Devos got the republican nomination in my state, he moved down to Texas, by Pres Bush's camp.  He made promises and ideas on whats wrong with Michigan and America and what we have to do to change them.

He had enough support and Followers here in Michigan he could of won the Governor's Race and changed, but instead he ran for the hills. I lost all respect for him after that. I bought your book, I got it signed, and you made promises you didnt deliver on you are no better then the politicians you rip new aholes.  YOU WANT CHANGE AND PROTECTION OF AMERICAN NUGENT FIGHT FOR IT LIKE THE SOLDIERS YOU LOVE SO MUCH.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/30/guns.suicides.ap/index.html

ATLANTA, Georgia, (AP) -- The Supreme Court's landmark ruling on gun ownership last week focused on citizens' ability to defend themselves from intruders in their homes. But research shows that surprisingly often, gun owners use the weapons on themselves.

 Suicides accounted for 55 percent of the nation's nearly 31,000 firearm deaths in 2005, the most recent year for which statistics are available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

There was nothing unique about that year -- gun-related suicides have outnumbered firearm homicides and accidents for 20 of the last 25 years. In 2005, homicides accounted for 40 percent of gun deaths. Accidents accounted for 3 percent. The remaining 2 percent included legal killings, such as when police do the shooting, and cases that involve undetermined intent.

Public-health researchers have concluded that in homes where guns are present, the likelihood that someone in the home will die from suicide or homicide is much greater.

Studies have also shown that homes in which a suicide occurred were three to five times more likely to have a gun present than households that did not experience a suicide, even after accounting for other risk factors.

In a 5-4 decision, the high court on Thursday struck down a handgun ban enacted in the District of Columbia in 1976 and rejected requirements that firearms have trigger locks or be kept disassembled. The ruling left intact the district's licensing restrictions for gun owners.

One public-health study found that suicide and homicide rates in the district dropped after the ban was adopted. The district has allowed shotguns and rifles to be kept in homes if they are registered, kept unloaded and taken apart or equipped with trigger locks.

The American Public Health Association, the American Association of Suicidology and two other groups filed a legal brief supporting the district's ban. The brief challenged arguments that if a gun is not available, suicidal people will just kill themselves using other means.

 More than 90 percent of suicide attempts using guns are successful, while the success rate for jumping from high places was 34 percent. The success rate for drug overdose was 2 percent, the brief said, citing studies.

"Other methods are not as lethal," said Jon Vernick, co-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore.

The high court's majority opinion made no mention of suicide. But in a dissenting opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer used the word 14 times in voicing concern about the impact of striking down the handgun ban.

"If a resident has a handgun in the home that he can use for self-defense, then he has a handgun in the home that he can use to commit suicide or engage in acts of domestic violence," Breyer wrote.

Researchers in other fields have raised questions about the public-health findings on guns.

Gary Kleck, a researcher at Florida State University's College of Criminology and Criminal Justice, estimates there are more than 1 million incidents each year in which firearms are used to prevent an actual or threatened criminal attack.

Public-health experts have said the telephone survey methodology Kleck used likely resulted in an overestimate. iReport.com: Watch William Bernstein share his views on gun ownership

Both sides agree there has been a significant decline in the last decade in public-health research into gun violence.

The CDC traditionally was a primary funder of research on guns and gun-related injuries, allocating more than $2.1 million a year to such projects in the mid-1990s.

But the agency cut back research on the subject after Congress in 1996 ordered that none of the CDC's appropriations be used to promote gun control.

Vernick said the Supreme Court decision underscores the need for further study into what will happen to suicide and homicide rates in the district when the handgun ban is lifted.

Today, the CDC budgets less than $900,000 for firearm-related projects, and most of it is spent to track statistics. The agency no longer funds gun-related policy analysis.

You have a universal right to defend yourself to something that is stronger than you..be it in force or numbers.

So next time 2 burglars get in your house, rape your wife while the other kicks you in the head pointing his gun at you....don't whine  :peace:

And that's a radical example, but meaning, if your opponent has the means, you should have too. Forbidding them obviously won't stop the criminals of getting them.

Please don't misinterpret me.

I offer no argument against people defending themselves, or even against the acceptability of firearms as a means of self defense...only against the idea of guns as a God given right, the point being that something cannot be a God given right if it is relatively new to existence.  To my knowledge, neither the Torah, the Bible, nor the Koran mention guns.  I would be similarly surprised if the seminal texts of Buddhism, Jainism, Taoism, or any other religion made mention of guns. 

PS - I should also add a mighty big "fuck you" for invoking the potential rape of my wife to make your point.  : ok:

I agree with freedom here.   It's a stupid phrase and should be removed from the document.  It'sa Country given right to own and bear arms.  God (if you believe in such thing) gave us the right to defend ourselves.  That I can buy into.  But "god given" is way way way too over the top.

I think when people say its God's right to own guns I assume they ae mentioning its gods given right to defend oneself as humans have been doing that since the begining of time, Guns are just the newest way of defending oneself.